Originally appeared at ZeroHedge
When the story first broke yesterday that fourteen seaman aboard a Russian submarine died when a fire broke out while in Russian territorial waters in the Arctic region, there were conflicting accounts over the nature of the underwater vessel, specifically, whether it was a deep-sea research submersible or whether it was a nuclear powered submarine. Speculation was fueled further when the fact that many among the deceased were high ranking naval officers was revealed— unusual for a mere underwater “research” vessel.
Russian President Putin has now confirmed it was indeed a nuclear-powered submarine after officials declined to reveal even the most basic details, citing its “secret mission”. As CBS reports:
Putin met Thursday with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who had returned from the Navy’s Arctic base of Severomorsk, and asked him about the submersible’s nuclear reactor. Shoigu said the reactor is “completely isolated now” and it is “in full working order.”
A photograph believed to be of the highly classified shadowy spy sub Losharik, via The Drive.
The blaze has been identified as starting in the sub’s battery compartment and spreading from there, causing 14 crewmen to succumb to smoke inhalation, while an undisclosed number survived. Norwegian officials had also previously reported that they have discovered no unusual levels of radiation near the accident.
Russian officials have not confirmed the precise name and type of vessel; however, Russian media reports appear to have identified it as follows:
The ministry didn’t name the vessel, but Russian media reported it was the country’s most secret submersible, a nuclear-powered research submarine called the Losharik intended for sensitive missions at great depths.
Reports say that the Losharik, also called the AS-12, was on a research mission to measure sea depths in the Barents Sea within Russian territorial waters. It’s missions and specs are so tightly guarded only select military members with the highest clearance have access to it.
A reported picture of Losharik, via The Drive/Russian social media.
But given that mainstream western media can’t waste a Russian submarine tragedy without adding wild accusations of sinister wrongdoing over what the “sensitive mission” could have been about, less than 24 hours later we have the “Putin’s cutting the world’s internet” claims again:
BBC Monitoring described US officials as saying the AS-12 is designed to cut undersea cables that keep the world’s internet running.
It’s an accusation that’s been floating around the internet for years. All the way back in 2015 a NYT story cited the Russian underwater cable threat as “raising concerns among some American military and intelligence officials that the Russians might be planning to attack those lines in times of tension or conflict.”
Map showing the location of undersea internet cables around the world, via Telegeography
Of course, such unconstrained and rampant speculation works better in the complete absence of any level of evidence, and when the Russian military cites a “top secret project”.
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters Wednesday when pressed about the precise nature of the Losharik’s activities: “It belongs to the highest level of classified data, so it is absolutely normal for it not to be disclosed.”
Israel did it and then Israel retaliate on that to Russia. For how long Putin will protect Israel. Its not enough that US and UK protect Israel.
I think YOU did it and I will tell the little midget putin that when I see him .
If you would happen to meet Putin in real life, you would shit your pants like Poroshenko did IMHO.
I would knee the fuck in the forehead .
Your knees would become weak and you would piss yourself …
All major powers have cable cutting submarine plans and scenarios both defensive and offensive. So what if Russia MAY have one too.
Fire started in the battery yet it is nuclear -powered? How? Nuclear heats water which turns steam back into battery chemicals energy?
The reactor heats the water to the vapor, the steam drives the turbine, the turbine drives the generator, the generator generates electricity that is stored in batteries.The electric motor drives the propeller, and the energy gets either from the generator or from the batteries.
It’s also likely it has a diesel generator for emergency power. It’s also possible there are steam engines to drive the prop as well as electric.
“It belongs to the highest level of classified data, so it is absolutely normal for it not to be disclosed.”
The MSM is so used to Western leaks and lax security, as was the case with Hillary, that they just assume the Russians should follow the same dumb example.
Our breathing apparatus where never far away, it must have been nasty and quick to kill so many.
Reactor runs a generator, which charges batteries. All nuclear vessels have battery backups in case of generator failure.
Thanks and it appears subs are always unsafe. Whether lithium or lead -acid batteries are always open to combustion.
I just wonder why they make a point of saying that it “was in Russia’s territorial waters”? Why would that be an issue unless there was some reason to think it would be disputed in the first place?
It seems that you are alone in finding something unusual about reporting of location of that accident.
Because the shitts got caught off the coast of Alaska and got what was coming to them .
This time you are 100% Correct and right.Lrt USA and Russia come and lied to us as usual. Make up joint false statements.
Wrong, check my posts above to prove all!both russia and the USA were fighting together to kill a globalist sub! i prove it all above! the post with pictures!
Wrong! both Russia and the US were working together to kill a Globalist sub! Check my posts above with pictures to prove this! im serious!
Creature, I feel sorry for you.
Evidence?
Very brilliant reasoning as a eye opener.USA sub attacked Russian sub case close. We have well informed intelligence source.
I’ve heard varying stories on the incident. I don’t think it was simply a fire in the battery room but it may be a long time before we find out the truth, if ever.
check this site: http://www.hisutton.com/Spy%20Sub%20-%20Project%2010831%20Losharik.html
Good link, thanks.
Could well have been a docking/un-docking incident between the mothersub (BS-24) and the espionage sub. (AS-12)
But as it is all top level, super classified stuff, we shall never know.
What we do know is that the Mothersub (BS-64) has returned to port, as has AS-12, but with less than half it’s complement of crew left alive to report what occurred.
Not so competent dumbazz pros EH.
Next time we find you there it will be real bad losers .That was just a taste .
The mental retardation of the Americans is displayed for the whole world to see by this tragedy. The Americans are suggesting that Russia has spent a lot of money, and now the lives of some of its servicemen to cut internet cables. The worst thing imaginable to do to an American is not to kill him, but to stop him accessing his facebook page. How did such mental degenerates achieve such power? We need an evolutionary event to remove the dead wood(America).
AND THEN THERE IS THIS FROM DEBKAFILE:
“Urgent consultations in Washington, Moscow on reported US-Russian submarines in firefight Jul 2, 2019 @ 22:24 Diane Shalem First reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources say that a US submarine intercepted a Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska. The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. Urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday night. US Vice President Mike Pence called off an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington for a conference called by President Donald Trump without explanation.
Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled an engagement and headed for the Kremlin to confer with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chiefs, after learning that 14 submariners died in a fire that broke out on a nuclear-powered “experimental submarine in Russian waters.” This account carried in Russian media varies in most respects from the first reports reaching this site and may refer to a separate incident. They report between 14 and 17 members of an AS-12 nuclear powered submarine died of poisonous fumes caused by a fire aboard the vessel. The submarine was described as experimental and unarmed but often used in spy missions. It is unclear how many of the 25 crew survived. Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk’s military hospital for poisoning and concussion injuries. Another news account said the majority of the officers died in or on their way to hospital. These reports do not cite the cause of the fire.”
AFTER RADING military tweets, leaks on other sites what i have found was that BOTH Russia and the USA were working together to track and kill a rogue CIA sub that works for “the cabal”. Qanon has been posting about it for over a year saying “Red October” where people at first thought it was the sub then realising it was about the 2018 elections for congress and the senate in October! BUT NO! Both of these were wrong! Qanon has been saying for well over a year “Red October” Note “The hunt for” has been removed”!
Meaning they no longer hunt to find it. They knew where it was! Sitting right on the border of US and Russian waters between Alaska and Russia!
Both Trump and Putin were called into their HQ’s due to the Sub making a move to launch to start a war between the US and Russia! The sub was attacked by both the US and Russia! Russia making the kill shot! The Russian spy sub was the best sub around and was used to locate and track the other sub! The other sub fired back. Injuries on the Russian sub but it is thought a US sub is dead! However, mission accomplished! The Russians and US were laying in wait!
This story may sound hysterical to some but if u follow qanon it is not at all! The cabal (israel, mossad, cia) have always used false flags to start wars for their own interests but in this case their own protection! The deep state is truly being drained hence Trump meeting Kim Jung Un who was controlled by the CIA as people on this site dont realise that after the end of the Soviet Union, North Korea and Iran became CIA black sites! Meaning they “owned the bad guys” just as they “owned isis and al-queida”. people on this site cannot accept this!But its the truth! They also “owned China”! Yes folks, u didnt realise that after the end of the soviet union the US started invading the middle east? US corporations fled to China, China grows into an economic power with a social spy grid while the US is put into endless costly wars!
This was all planned since the all of the Soviet union! Corruption was able to take place because there was no competing interests!
And if u have not realised this yet, Putin was put into power by the Russian intel agencies because russia was being soled off by Jews! Trump was put into office by the US military intelligence agencies (against the 3 letter Globalist intel agencies)
I have been saying this for 2 years, Trump and putin are on the same team vs the globalists zionist cabal!
Think about all these major events occurring right now with UK marines grabbing a Iranian Tanker, These subs, Trump in NK, US not reacting to Iranian drone shoot down, (when they’ve been wanting an incident forever). So many ig events occurring right now because like i have said for 2 years, there is an intel war occurring between white hats and black hats!
This includes google, twitter, facebook, MSM, Military and other nations! The puppets are being free’d and the rogue assests are being hunted down!
People dont realise that the famous “earth quake” or “underground nuclear test” in north korea was actually a US special ops mission to destroy NK nuclear assests! a huge blow to the cabal!
How do i know? i read Qanon posts and anyone who does KNOWS he’s legit!
CIA and M16 work Trump immediately summoned Pence for further preparation in case of Retaliation. Good after noon mister nice President Putin.
WHEN PEOPLE ON THIS SITE FINALLY UNDERSTAND WHATS GOING ON, THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE TRUTH AND THE REAL STORY! PUTIN AND TRUMP ARE ALLIES AGAINST THE GLOBALIST INTEL AGENCIES. BOTH PRESIDENTS WERE PUT INTO POWER BY THE MILITARY INTEL AGENCIES!
CAN U UNDERSTAND??? LOOK AT THE DATES!
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Never trust man but Trust God.No one will tell us when nukes will be fired because the nuclear owners are lying to the whole world.Israel USA operated sub destroyed Russian sub.Please stay focust and pray to Jesus the God he will reveal everything in spiritual realm. Close call.
read my comment below with the pictures!
Submarines do have batteries. A modern torpedo would had sunk the sub. Top Brass in a dangerous mission? Not a chance.This is a tragedy, stop dragging politics into this. There are many subs around the world conducting reconnaissance, research, patrols and even spying missions, they too have accidents, some minor, some grave. But you don’t usually find out because most of the missions of a military sub are secret in nature. The only reason they are reporting this is because the current red scare tactics the media is trying to pursue. If it was a military mission, Kremlin wouldn’t comment on it, and they wouldn’t contact Norway in case of emergency. Most of it is common sense. If you want to point out discrepancies on this, how about the missing condolences from world leaders? Stating that the sub was in Russian territorial water is normal nowadays, especially with all the illegal cross border actions we’ve seen in the past few years.