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On December 11, Russian President Vladimir Putin visited the Russian military airbase of Khmeimim in the Syrian province of Latakia for the first time since its establishement, according to the state-run media.
The president ordered the start of the withdrawall of Russian troops from Syria.
“I instruct the defense minister, the head of the General Staff to begin the withdrawal of the Russian group of troops to the places of their permanent location,” Putin said, when speaking to Russian servicemen.
The president added that if terrorists gain upper hand in the country, Russia will carry out strikes that “they’ve never seen.”
Putin said that during the two years of the operation Russian and Syrian forces have “defeated the most battle-hardened grouping of international terrorists.”
He also underlined that with the help of Russia, Syria has been preserved as an independent and sovereign state and that conditions for the political settlement in the country under the auspices of the UN have been created.
Earlier some Russian media speculated that Russia is planing to finish its military opeartion in Syria by the end of 2017.
In any case, the announced decision does not mean that 100% of Russian forces will be withdrawn from Syria. Russia will still have the Tartus naval facility and the Khmeimim airbase in Syria and some forces will remain there.
Logical as there is no more ISIS to fight that locals forces cannot handle.
They need a rest
you eat russian propaganda with ladle
Hello hello, what propaganda is there here?
They just announced and if they do, will you eat your words thru your ass!
Your ISIS friends mostly with their rewards
you will understan after years. i frew up in soviet type socialism. therefore i am able to read correctly the russian statements.
russia has no economical power to continue in war. of course, i mean the sanctionsa against russia. therefore putin does everything in hope, that western countries will finish the sanctions. heabandons syrian unity, donbass.
So what has Russia economic power got to do with this withdrawal after victorious over your friends? Do far your posts lack substance so far.
you will see. this is the dark dilomacy, not the public.
i believe what i see.
you see, what in you believe.
Russian economy is doing fine. Latest news , their bond rates is now lowest in years showing foreign investors are coming in.
Their agriculture is tops with record productions
They are doing fine.
This withdrawal will save money for them too
russian conomy showed again worsened number for the Q3 of this year. check the russian statistical institute website.
petrol 60 dollar per barrel…natural resources rising( gold, paladio, titanio), agriculture top production,weapons sales!…man I have many friends working there and I know what I say!
Any Russian activities cause deep interest for you. It is great) In compare to US (with fake activities based on some times remastered methodology – to show fine) are more real.
i dont see any new russian activities in the past 5 years. show me single one russian mobile, notebook, car. so good, that is sold in abroad.
S400 .
yup. poor army.
and how is higher the life niveau of simply russians? just fot absence of normal industry,normal products, normal jobs leave russians massively their homeland.
btw., all russian maffia oligarchs buy realities in NYC, lomdon, buy football teams. and this allowes them Dw. Putin.
“absence of normal industry”. See URLs in my post above, specially for you.
+S500)
Even better !
Do you know any Israel consumer notebook? Do you know any consumer electronics made in US? Russian designed industrial CPU Baykal made at the same manufactures as Apple, Dell, HP etc. – in China. Especially for you: https://sdelanounas.ru/ Estimation of economics activities on manufacturing of cheep consumer electronics – very narrow view.
This is a Wester qualification (treat and investment in the West) with has nothing to do with inside real Russia economy and the treat with China. From military point of view they are making such amazing progress that they have declared ready for WWIII, and this is not fiction, and they know what they are talking about.
AGAIN IDIOTS: check russian data!!!
You do see nothing outside of west fake news.
Which was the point I made earlier.
Now you are pretending to be naive. Russian involvement in Syria costs money, lots of money, for which Assad can only pay by giving bases, which is not enough long term.
Therefore, given the dismal state of Russian economy, economizing is always on the Russian agenda.
Results: 1. A lot of ISIS militants from CIS killed at far from Russia borders (one of main goals at the start of battle); 2. Russia military industry has large orders for next years even from US vassals (taking into account the combat tuning of newest weapons at the place – fine mean to have more advantages over competitors). Amount of orders exceeds any charges for combat operations and speeds up the economics; 3. Russia Army has good experience in real battle in compare to usual training and any special combat operations (usual for US); 4. Russia had fixed presence in Middle East on legal base (in compare to US) and it will expanded; 5. Syria’s nations at the bargaining table (how many “Geneva”s were before?): military diplomacy is more efficient and has real result. etc.etc.
Nobody doubts there are effects and results. Still, costs are rising and the support if Syria goes well beyond the salaries of a few men, some travel expenses. Lots of military hardware has been destroyed and been (at the least partly) replaced for free. The economy has collapsed and lots of food and oil and industrial goods had to be imported and Assad has no money. The check for that has been at least partially offered to Iran and Russia.
Well I do not dispute that cost can be a favor and should be.
As the extra soldiers are not needed send them home and the soldiers are happier.
So this is a logical move
West dream is to see Russia economy again down as in 1991. Well, you may continue dreaming for hundred’s of years more.
I do not have to dream anything.
Russia’s economy has taken a large hit when prices of oil and gas, its main exports, took a hit. Coupled with the effect of the sanctions, however effective they are or are not, Russia’s economy took a severe hit.
The recent hike in oil prices, even though much below previous heights, has a positive impact on Russian economy.
Russias extra costs in Syria come from the training budget at home. The training on the job is always the best. Many munitions have come from old Soviet stocks. Such as the Freefall bombs that have multi use satellite targeting from within the aircraft rather than expensive devices on the bomb.
The sales of Russian weapons have also increased massively.
” i frew up in soviet type socialism. therefore i am able to read correctly the russian statements.”
This is the most delusional statement I have ever read.So let me get that straight ..Because you grew up in one community in one town in one country in the Soviet Union, that makes you an expert in Russian “statements”..You cannot make that shit up..
yes, makes me, because the system is the same. is the bird quacks like duck amdlike duck, it is duck.
Got it wrong first time..You aren’t just delusional..You’re schizophrenic
He is Jewish. That’s normal.
What he has written in his broken English still makes sense but your comments are pointless attacks on his person. We are discussing here about RU military adventure in ME and its far reaching implications and not somebodies state of mental health. I hope you do understand SF discussion is not psychiatry clinic. Whoever needs that kind of help he must go to a proper place.
“the system is the same” 100% correct.
Solomon is very experienced in Making Shit UP Turbo :)
Time will tell. Too early to say. So far what has been done in Syria is a half a job and if another half will be done by US coalition everything will come to naught.
I think the Russians are looking for a unified Syria and but their next moves will be a Judo move where the US weight is used to the Russian advantage.
“This is the most delusional statement I have ever read” Somebody is delusional here and you find out who.
“therefore putin does everything in hope, that western countries will finish the sanctions.”
If that were true Putin would simply give up Crimea..Sanctions are hardening the Russian economy pushing it in the direction of China and other developing economies.This cannot be a bad thing for any economy.Growth might slow down but, you adapt meaning no other country can pull shit like that in the future.Secondly Russia economy was most affected by low oil prices not sanctions.Grow up..
crimea can not give up. this wuld be suicide. in the background hapens things germany is weaker the control of business mage by puppet firms with russia. not everything is public.
Your words not mine..You said “Putin does everything”..
So you are saying that Putin does everything but not everything..You see…. schizophrenia
Crimea has not any value for sanctions. It is west propaganda fake. West sanctions will exist while Russia take place on the map.
My friend US and EU are the main markets for China’s consumer products not RU. China cannot abandon its trade with US and EU in order to do a favor to RU. China’s relationship with US is very much different from RU’s. Trade ties between them are the ones that cannot be broken easily without posing existential threat to both economies. So what’s RU’s position in all this? Not very promising.
You do not know Russia and its history, and. especially Russia nation. Russia is living for hundreds years under sanctions.Them do not care a damn for its. West propaganda made believe west nations and itself that Russian is suffering for its)))) to justify for West economics harm itself. Ask to Poland, Germany, Italy. France and others business to explain.
I am not totally agree with this. Russia right now is a strong economical and military power again, and Israel-USA-NATO are just scare about it. That is the reason USA is trying to block West market (sanctions) to Russia.
economically russia is on the level of italy. military power also as limited power. west is not sacred, simply dont want modern russian army. the same situation is with china. ussr is over, from russia west will have never fear. USSR was 280 mill. people (usa had 230 mill), plus allied countries. ruled black sea, baltic sea, central asia. now is nothing. Now russia has 140 mil inhabitants, usa 320 mill. everything has changed. russia must learn, it is only one of more. if will not learn, destroys itself.
The same incantations again) You do see nothing and knowing nothing except of selected preconceived mass media.
Exactly. While Russia was weak, had destroyed by Gorbachev and Eltsin Army and economics, it was not treat for US/GB and had very good relations with West. That had following – destruction of Yugoslavia. From 2007 Putin’s message in Munich, Russia became as direct treat.
That’s no ladle, that’s my knife.
But seriously, you are here just to water down the content of the discussion.
Exaclty)
…or maybe train to prepare for the imminent NK incident, the build up of the Nato foods on Russia’s West and so on and so on.
We will find out one day. For now, just hope you are right with your first sentence.
I am not sure about that. Syria generals and soldier have shown lack of tactical, compromise with their country, and sometimes eves stupidity. My guess is that Syria without Hezbolha-Iran-Russia will fall again with ISIS (supported by Israel-USA-NATO).
I hope not.
Agreed Syria needs all the local allies to overcome. It is just that they do not have to burden Russia with their foot soldiers
They do and history reminds us that Garrison Forces abroad with little to do soon become complacent and lazy. Russia has done well because her troops are focused and determined to get the job done.
Russia has demonstrated that when the need arises her response is swift and deadly. The more troops ‘in country’ that are not required become a bigger target for a terror attack as well.
Terrorism will likely be a problem for decades as it was in Northern Ireland and the UK mainland in the 1960/70/80’s.
It is Incredible a Greta big difference between Holy Russia and —the US Zionist terror regime —–Putin and Russia had done great job In Syria finished and leaving –—-I other hand the terror regime of zionist US just want to steal- occupy a part of Syrian land –US the zionist demon is evil as a sin
In a way to make US forces remaining to look stupid.
THAT is called RATIONALIZATION.
That’s called New Age “positive thinking” where the reality becomes the way you would wish it to be. Frankly self deception in a nut shell.
Yes
It’s probably done for that reason at least partially. Elections in February too. Now if US or JewS attacks, it will be obvious what they are up to.
While Russia is withdrawing America has built up 10 bases, which are ,in effect PERMANENT because they have never announced any withdrawals and in fact, they have stated, the opposite.
What are we missing ? Are we witnessing MORE Zionist MAGIC?
The immediate future should be Very interesting.
But Team Saker will lead the cheerleading for every horrible mistake Putin makes- and say that any critique of Putin means one is really “anti-Russian” and “pro-West”.
Notice how when Putin acts weakly, a veritable wave of approval hits the comment sections of all our sites? American, Israeli and British DEEP STATE money in action.
Yes I notice and happy so see you are a one of VERY few DISCERNING individuals
Correct. The king of the south is retreating while the king of the north is building troupes. It looks like RU has run out of money and they are trying to save whatever is left for looming conflict with NATO in Europe.
You could be right
No russia, no assad & no iran
you are cheering to early :)
Wet dreams of yours?
No Assad, no Iran means no Russia will be true also.
They need each other.
No Assad , pipeline goes thru, Russia finished
+ if Russia is finished, Europe freezes.
I doubt it, Russia has ‘withdrawn’ from Syria twice already. The fight is far from over, ISIS may be all but beaten, but their are still plenty of other Jihadi scumbags to put down.
Yes but the rest of the terrorists are concentrated in Idlib, a few other pockets and Golan Heights. Far from the clusterf**k of 2015. As long as they are killing each other in Idlib there is no reason to do anything, Idlib can be just called a “de-escalation” zone. We might see another year of the war but probably it will be over sooner.
I really do hope you are right.
SAA can handle the rest with ease.
Russian soldiers were primarily for protection of the base in case of large scale attacks which is not likely at all now.
The normal contingent will do supported by SAA .
Soldiers need a rest and save costs too.
All on need to basis
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Yes it is true not over but there is nothing SAA with allies cannot handle.
The important part is the air Force like the incident with the F22
no, twice reduced. and saa actions alaso collapsed. look at latakia,m idlib, daraa, hama, homs. all good begin, and still unfinished.
Don’t worry, you’ll be back soon enough to destroy the kurds….
Kurds will more sensible after betrayal of US in Kurdistan question. Also Russian military diplomacy will help for its)
Russia still has two permanent bases to man and its reasonable that forces in theatre will be rotated and balanced. Such a strategy prevents complacency as well at all levels.
two permanent base for russia. not for assad.
Another brainless post
i like your self critic :)
Bases are especially for Syria’s West “friends”.
It is in the Russian interests to support true democracy and not US plutocracy dressed up as democracy.
true democracy? russia does not know, what it is :DDDD
Where you see democracy? US – legal corruption, EU – ?))))) Merkel forever) and European Commission that never elected and controlled by US/GB? Asia -?))) Africa-?))) May be in GB vassals – Australia, Canada?
higher level of freedom for citizens. and 10x less corruption.
in russia you can not ground your industrial firm, if you are not member of privilegized.
1. West fake. 2. It is lie. Ask you Israel colleges about. They think otherwise.
See URLs I sent before.
“Democracy” is the magic word used by West to destroy other countries and to impose West will on that country. This word must be erase from dictionary.
The Khazars always like to bastardise words. Thats why Khazars are often shyster lawyers.
Even the word ‘gay’ that used to describe a happy and jolly person or occasion. These days the word is bastardised to describe a man that enjoys putting his penis in the anus of another man. Shit Stabbers is a better term if Homosexual is too much of a mouthful :)
lol
no boy, in russia is oligarchia, not democracy.
100%
“Large part of our troops” – i.e. partial withdrawal – that’s what I here in local news.
that means, russians left assad alone.
Stupid conclusion. No more your ISIS friends mostly with their makers, Assad can handle alone.
Just why your posts are so stupid?
isis is your bloodgroup, not mine.
assad can not handle alone nthong. without russians he was not able to keep al nbukamal. palmyra.
Hello hello again. This is not Russia leaving Syria totally.
Only ground troops to protect the base more needed.
Main ground battles are still by SAA and allies . Russia air cover still there.
Remember how the SU35 chased off the F22?
and who told totally? russia leave so few soldeirs, which is necessary to run the bases.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….You just cannot stomach a Russian victory in Syria can you..You sound like one of these delusional western “experts” who predicted back in 2015 the Russia would face another Afghanistan in Syria.. Sore LOSERS..
the divided country is victory? syria full with yankee and turkish soldiers??? fuck your mother, you idiot! iraq under yanks is in much better condition. russia is still loser.
What does his Mother have to do with this you condescending little prick!?
You owners are losers.
i am against usa and israel. therefore i am disappointed, that also russia betrayed syria.
“i am against usa and israel” Really? I do not see any activities confirming that.
Russia (with Putin) is not the same as Russia with Gorbachev and Eltsin. Dreems… Russia has came in to Middle East for a long time, especially after Trump’s claim on Israel. Palestina denies US participation in any future process. Who replacing US? Europe (vassals of US)?))))) SA – friend of Israel?))))
Yes Shlomo is butthurt. He would also be advised to use his native language so as to be understood.
Is that Yiddish ?
More like Idio-iddish.
Very true .
Of course. It is needed for our US friends.
the yanks laughed. thes get the su35 where they want. so they could deliver weapons in other part of syria.
Really? Brave US pilots tell about after scape?
only idiots thimk, thes escaped. this is typical contact making nervous situation. mission accompleshed, slowly flight away. like russian pilots, when escort nato planes. are russia pilots fools, when thes leave the space after coming nato interceptors,
guys, you are sooooo primitive!!!!!!
Typical contacts? When US jet prevented SU-25 to bombing the ISIS? Really? That is typical provocation from US AF. US units are brave only when opponent has no mean to answer. Brave US NAVI “Donald Cook” destroyer in Black See has demonstrated it to whole world.
Just read info on “Aviation Week” about F-22 pilots in Syria and Iraq. They complain that not see Russian SU-30 and SU-35 as its not using active radio mode for detection, but only OLS. F-22 has not OLS and pilots have to use usual visual mean to seek its)))) Welcome to middle of 20-th century!
All “invisibility” of F-22 are useless because small range, especially in night flights and because electronic communication Russian jets with air-defence systems. So scape F-22 from SU-35 was expected.
One way to find out if Assad can or cannot handle ISIS… Join ISIS and go to Syria…
satan, shut up!
Solomon could well be an Israeli ISIS Sleeper :)
Who to defend or attack in Al bukamal or Palmyra?
Really insulting from an Israeli
Most of the ground fighting were Assad’s fierce soldiers which your Israeli friends fear so much Nethanyahoo has to get Russian help
You are correct, at least partly.
SAA lost Palmyra twice and Russian forces, mostly, retook Palmyra the last time.
As for Al Bukamal, Iranian proxies took the city twice, maybe thrice, and Assad forces were not seen in anyone of those captures. As SF reported, SAA reached the city just last week.
US/SDF very “helped” to stay Al Bukamal under ISIS control at more time, helped ISIS to kill Russian general, to destroy armament depot in Der Ezzor, prepared for advance to Al Bukamal. They made one’s very best.
Where did you get your information to that detail?
I do not believe your story that Assad’s we’re not the ones taking both the city as they fight together in all operations
Russian soldiers alone would not have taken the city alone . It does not make sense.
Most likely your imaginations
Keep dreaming :)
That’s including air support?
significantly reduced.
Your grandfather told you?
my grandfather told: the perestroyka will be successful, when russians leave soviet uninon. this was in 1987. the wise old man was right.
you are unexperienced sucking child, who trolls and attacks the adults.
Oh I am right. Your are still in Soviet times advised by your grandfather Lol
russia is in soviet times. the same propaganda. btw., tyhis style is the same from russian empire in 19th century.
Russians left Soviet Union? Ha-ha) Russians at home at its land except for some citizens that never had motherland.
yes, he meant let dissolve ussr. and gorbi with yeltsin made this exactly.
Gorbachev is traitor and has been rewarded by US for USSR collapsing. Eltsin was weak drunkard which trusted to West tales.
Russian bombers and submarines think otherwise)
what think putin, is the important thing :)
Putin is ex-intelligence officer. You never know true from visibility. All in Russia is not as seems)
They will still keep the special forces in the country :)
Ha. As predicted Putin declares victory and orders withdrawal from Syria before Christmas and well before Russian elections. *Not sure if leaving huge swaths of Syria to the Turk is really a victory though.
It depends what agreements are in place that we don’t know of.
The recent incredibly undiplomatic, but admirable attack on Nutyahole, even Israel itself (foreign policy) and Trump by ERDOGAN, to me shows that maybe Erdogan and Turkey have taken the leap and may be trusted in the near future.
Russian soldiers there are not to take on the Turks . Those are for SAA and Kurds to handle.
Russia has too much investments in Turkey and wants Turkey to be on his side to field Russian soldiers against the Turks
putin, the swine invited them in syria!!!!
Withdrawing to their permanent places will mean that for many orf them they will relocate from front positions to the Russian bases elsewhere in Syria. Also : groups of forces is not the same as “all groups of forces”, so that too can mean that some, or many, remain.
As said elsewhere, this is not the first withdrawal.
Anyhow, it gives the signal that, like the US, Russia estimates that the hardest part of the fighting is over. It remains to be seen whether both powers are ccorrect. I fear the worst.
I fear the worst.
sure. the animal kurds are threaten
Well done to all the Russian military personnel; their intervention saved thousands, maybe millions of lives. The BBC are reporting the withdrawal through gritted teeth, even referring to the Syrian president as simply “Bashar Assad”. BBC must stand for butthurt broadcasting corporation.
Remember a little place called PALMYRA? Putin’s great victor there. Putin’s immediate withdrawal of major forces from there. The immediate recapture of Palmyra by SAS led ISIS forces again (the British immediately exploited the idiocy of the withdrawal- and led a wahhabi terror blitzkrieg straight back in).
People on our side are so quick to pat Putin and themselves on the back.
Here’s the deal. On the ground, Syria has ‘peaceful’ beta cuck males who surrender in their thousands to the first armed murderous ALPHA male terrorist. The ‘trained’ syrians are vulnerable to bribery and threats to their family. Why do you think Syria fell in the first place. Syria was covered with military installations- small numbers of terrorists took most of them with ease.
In truth Putin is abrogating responsibility for Syria’s security to helbollah and Iran (what an Empire power Russia is- NOT!). Britain can keep major military forces in KSA, so why does Putin have a problem doing the same with Syria? It’s not as if Russia has the need to have forces in many nations on the planet at this time.
But KSA and Israel wants Russia out of Syria, and as we witnessed a few months back, Putin happily knelt at the feet of leaders of both vile nations. Meanwhile Trump is ramping up American military numbers across the Middle East.
“Palmyra” is betrayal by US/SDF, led went ISIS troops from Raqqa specially to its retake.
palmyra is a result of coward saa and fool assads militay high command. 6 russian impotency, too.
Even Russia generals in Moscow qualify of stupidity to leave Palmyra alone with inept and coward Syrian soldiers.
the six had to be + in my former comment.
of course, that rusians tell this, because also they ran as rabits. left there also the equipment. the internal rules prescribe destruction of heavy equipment. the drunken russian soldiers did nothing. so, it is mor simply to point on others. but the resent russians were also guilty.
Lex Actually “Palmyra” is betrayal by Putin – Russia.
At present Russia is keeping Syria destabilized by giving Syria reduced Military support.
No proper Battleplan is being implemented so Syria remains in chaos fighting the same battles over and over. Homs v1 2014, Homs v2, 2016 – 2017, Palmyra v1, Palmyra v2 2017, Al Tanf v1, Al Tanf v2, etc etc.
Russia has plenty of Military resources available which sit idle gathering dust or getting polished without being used. Or maybe Russian equipment is mostly useless.
BTW, anyone watching BBC TV News or Sky News was regularly informed that IS were planning to flee out of Mosul into Syria.
Russia allowed approx 4500 terrorists fully trained, armed and equipped to drive unhindered across the desert from Mosul region into Syria in December 2016.
The 4500 convoy of terrorists would have used approx 800 vehicles, “Pickup Trucks”, 6 terrorists per truck.
Not one single truck was targeted whatsoever.by the Russian Air Group whilst the Terrorist convoy drove across approx 250+ Km of highway with no checkpoints and captured Arak, T3, Palmyra city v2, etc.
The Russian Military allows terrorists, Kurds, SDF to control areas and regions in Syria.
: “BBC TV News or Sky News” I do no not see fake news) Russia allows trained ISIS to cross desert? Who are controlled Mosul and it outputs, Iraq at whole, Raqqa, especially air space? US/kurds (in Iraq and Syria) NO actions (goal?) are reason of crossing ISIS the desert and retaking Palmira! You carefully hide any role of US in above.
Lex “…: “BBC TV News or Sky News” I do no not see fake news)…”
You don’t because you are a FOOL, reason: All media must be viewed or read to find information.
The reason for Palmyra v2 is because Putin – Russia ensures Battleplan failure
In modern warfare, Battleplan is required, (this has not been fulfilled in Syria).
First Stage: Continuous Intelligence Gathering of Terrorists and their Movement.
Second Stage: Force Ratio of Men and Equipment to absorb an attack, repel and counter attack Terrorists.
cmon, you’re that real anti racist guy, it’s blatant.
agreed
The British state broadcaster is as despised here as abroad so apologies for the sound of hollow laughter echoing round the world at their volte face….
Troops, not airforce. The air strikes will continue on AQ-held Idlib until victory.
Did airstrikes win back Palmyra after Putin’s DREADFUL mistake in withdrawing groundforces after capturing that historic site in the first place. Putin’s horrible mistake cost thousands of lives in the region as a new groundforce was required to push ISIS out of the region of Palmyra for a SECOND time.
You never, ever EVER take land with an airforce. The airforce must back up land forces. And recent history has proven that Syria’s non-russian land forces are no match for british and American backed wahhabi terror gangs.
Oh, for sure Iranian and hezbollah fighters are good, but insanely vulnerable to Deep State speacial forces strikes. Where these irregulars operate, the SAS and others find juicy easy targets- and use the usual methods of special forces- especially the assasination of leading commanders. The West is terrified of Russian ground troops- murder them and forces of the West start dying as well. But the West LOVES to murder fighter of Iran and Lebanon outside of their homelands. With Putin INSANELY turning his victory into ashes, Syria will become a TURKEY HUNT as every major nation of the West competes to cause the greatest chaos in Syria- and consider their acts of atrocity as perfect practise for their elite special forces divisions.
You don’t win a military campaign by air strikes. Without boots on the ground there is no victory. Air strikes are there just to support ground troupes. That’s basic military doctrine.
“after Putin’s DREADFUL mistake in withdrawing groundforces after capturing that historic site”
what history are you reading? Russia never deployed ground forces in offensive or defensive operations at any time in Syria, the only one present were specops with recon and targeting tasks and military advisers.
#Russia withdraw 23 warplanes, two Ka-52 helicopters, #Russian …#Syria
Gary Sellars Netanyahu – Israel and the Khazarim elite make the final decision which Putin – Russia have to obey.
The old “home for xmas” meme- Putin never learns. The British SAS will start to activate its terror cells across Syria again, probing all points of weakness. Remember, ISIS wahhabi terror exploits beta male weakness- allowing a tiny number of murderous alpha terrorists to take towns and villages even tho they are actually outnumbered hundreds to one. The beta males simply give up as soon as the thugs apepar- a psychology the British have been exploiting for ever (why do you think the British people have been so disarmed, even carrying weapons that can only be used for self defense on the street is strictly illegal?- Britain is the land of the beta cuck).
The gains by the Syrian army will fall to pieces- money is used to eliminate local leadership (buying the only sorta good people to turn a blind eye). The unbribable ones will be murdered or have their families threatened to exert pressure. New weapons will start to flood in (Turkey, in particular, is a double-agent, fooling Putin with ease but ready to start the flow of terror into Syria at the drop of a hat).
Notice where the West goes it STAYS. The West plays the Great Game. Putin doesn’t even know the rules. His ‘muscular vicar’ approach can give results when he flexes his ‘muscles’- but when Putin returns to his passive “can’t we all just get along?” idiocy, his gains are lost.
Why doesn’t Putin make Syria part of the Russian Federation. This is a question NEVER asked on sites like this one. Does NATO hesitate in recruiting even the most hopeless European nation? Russia is the worst ally of anyone.
Starlight “…Russia is the worst ally of anyone….”
Very good assessment of Syria for 2018.
Regarding the countries that looked to Russia, most have been destroyed, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.
The countries remaining, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela etc which consider Russia as an ally are waiting for their economies, infrastructure or military to be destroyed.
The Masonic 2 headed Janus/Paradigm of Control. Hence the White/Black checker floor…..The Game* Religions/Cult sects of Religions…such as Chabad Lubavitch/Schneersen Have Agendas within the Larger Occult game. IE. ..the 3 Abrahamic Religions have different End Game ** outcomes. The Bankers /MIC side has Control over Geostrategics. .. They decide how Conflicts evolve. Israel has achieved against the Muslims of ME while Uncle Shlomo bombs/occupies , Yet it’s not 7 regimes in 5 years… Several nations remain to be plundered. ..Iran,North Korea,Venezuela. The First 2 would create % uncontrollable outcome vs Venezuela. While Russia and China are creating non USD $ trade …..Globally, USD $$ Is Dominion …even though oil is low investment return. Nuclear and Electric and the Global Digital spy/control is the future. Recent rise of Global media/Political deception is cover for the Game . Global use of Opium and Opiates/Big Pharma is skyrocketing. .. After Nuremberg Trials I.G. Farbin was broken up. Big Pharma and Insurance is a huge global racket. Takfiri conned to die in Syria and Iraq get bags of Captigon …before the bullets send them to Allah : )
Brad Isherwood Very good pointers.
The Masonic 2 headed Janus: This article may interest you regarding its connection with The Symbol of the Two Headed Eagle – St. Petersburg, Russia and its origin from ancient Egypt https://worldsymbolsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/08/the-symbol-of-two-headed-eagle-st-petersburg-russia/
Paradigm of Control: The strong victimizing the weak, the poor being exploited by the rich and powerful, or truth being twisted into lies http://www.1paradigm.org/twoparadigms.html
The Checkered Flooring: A representation of the ground floor of King Solomon’s Temple” and is “emblematic of human life, checkered with good and evil.” http://freemasoninformation.com/2009/03/the-checkered-flooring/
The Game Between the British and the Russians over Central and Southern Asia has evolved to include North America, Middle East, Eastern and Central Europe as the Khazar Nation (includes the Chabad Lubavitch Schneersen groups and Rothschild Goldmann Others)
Jacob Rothschild´s Goldman Sachs Takes over Trump, the White House: Trump’s non-stop nominations and appointments of Goldman Sachs alumni have left his supporters stunned. http://new.euro-med.dk/20170113-rothschilds-goldman-sachs-takes-over-trump-and-the-white-house-again.php
The Plan For The Middle East and Beyond by Gilad Atzmon: Iraq and Syria serve as a final wake up call that we have been led into a horrific situation in the Middle East by a powerful Lobby https://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/13/the-jewish-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-beyond/
The Seven regimes in 5 years was an ambitious plan which will eventually fall into place, example, Sudan has already been split into two countries which even Putin – Russia has endorsed.
9 questions about South Sudan you were too embarrassed to ask https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/12/30/9-questions-about-south-sudan-you-were-too-embarrassed-to-ask/?utm_term=.c3b5895499b0
There is more for another snowy day.
lol, hypocrite.
John Whitehot “…hypocrite…”
You looked in the mirror and wrote what you saw, LoL:)))
still haven’t you seen how your “allies” treat your kind?
John Whitehot “…still haven’t you seen how your “allies” treat your kind?….”
What are my allies ? What’s my “kind” ?
the kind that always talks against something and never in favor, normally called with a word starting with the “T” letter.
John Whitehot As usual you live in your own failed world of fantasy opinions.
“The British SAS will start to activate its terror cells across Syria again, probing all points of weakness”
lolololololol
http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/11/foreign-proxies-prematurely-boast-mission-accomplished-in-syria/
More mischief-making by Frankie
Putin has done the work his masters ordered which looks remarkably like the Oded Yinon Plan.
This is Syria’s reality:
Syria 500,000 plus killed, 1.9 Million injured, 6 Million displaced refugees,
Syrian life expectancy has dropped from 70.5 years in 2010 to an estimated 55.4 years in 2015.
Syrian Infrastructure destroyed, Syrian economy trashed.
Syrian oil production dropped from 400,000 B/D, the latest figure is not known.
Syria was a very large exporter of Phosphates in 2010, currently zero exports.
This war has already cost Syria approx US$650 Billion in lost economic growth and could cost Syria nearly US$1.3 Trillion in lost economic growth by 2020.
When Syrian war has started? Without Russia involving in 2015 Syria has been wasted from map completely.
Lex “…When Syrian war has started?…”
The Syrian War drum roll started beating in 2010.
Putin – Russia works with Israel – Netanyahu together to ensure the destruction of both Syria and Iran as they are a threat to Israel and its desire to destroy its enemies and a Geopolitical Oil and Gas pipeline threat to Russia.
Putin – Russia offered to protect Syria starting in 2010 but failed to protect Syria.
Putin – Russia only intervened after the Assad government was poised to fall which would have resulted on the building of the Saudi – Arab Oil and Gas pipeline across Syria to Turkey and onward into the EU.
2010 – Minimal Russian help for Syria 2011 – Minimal Russian help for Syria 2012 – Minimal Russian help for Syria 2013 – Minimal Russian help for Syria 2014 – Minimal Russian help for Syria 2015 – January to September – Minimal Russian help for Syria 2017 – Minimal Russian help for Syria
What childish words
reality
no, pathetic ravings of those who should pack their things and start writing curricula.
John Whitehot “…no, pathetic ravings of those who should pack their things and start writing curricula….”
You are writing about yourself. Words that come out of your mind are about you.
Solomon Krupacek electron looked at himself in the mirror and wrote his own words. “…What childish words…”
electron “…What childish words…”
You looked at yourself in the mirror and wrote your own words.
“Putin – Russia works with Israel – Netanyahu together to ensure the destruction of both Syria and Iran”)) – full folly. Destruction of Syria is goal of US. SA, Qatar, early – Turkey, Egypt. Any war is point of interests a lot of players. Considering single reason – narrow mind.
Lex “…Destruction of Syria is goal of US. SA, Qatar, early – Turkey, Egypt…”
The Khazars dictate to Putin because he is their slave. https://jdavismemphis.com/2015/10/19/evidence-russia-cannot-be-trusted-putin-is-not-a-hero/
Destruction of both Syria and Iran is also the goal of Putin – Russia.
Netanyahu to Putin: Israel may act to curb Iran’s clout in Syria https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-israel/netanyahu-to-putin-israel-may-act-to-curb-irans-clout-in-syria-idUSKCN1B30JS
Does anyone still seriously think that Russia and Israel aren’t allies Israel’s latest bombing raid on Syria is confirmation that the Putin-Netanyahu Summit in Sochi was a lot more successful than some Alt-Media voices have led people to believe.
http://theduran.com/does-anyone-still-seriously-think-that-russia-and-israel-arent-allies/
“…Minimal help?…”
Yes Putin – Russia has helped the MINIMUM in Syria.
This is what Putin – Russia have done for Syria: Defacto Division of Syria Many Millions Displaced or Killed in Syria Syria’s Infrastructure Destroyed Syrian Economy Trashed Etc
As at today, the Syrian military still do not have any or full control over the following areas?
1. Al Tanf 2. Deraa 3. Idlib 4. Raqqa 5. Deir Ez Zor 6. Aleppo region 7. Homs region 8. Palmyra area 9. Hama region 10. Damascus area 11. Golan
where is the proof that Putin is a khazar slave.
Because before you move such accusation, it’s *required* that you provide uncontrovertible proof.
Don’t even try to start saying that the proof is found in subsequent actions, which is what you do ALL the time, taking liberty to interpret things like a noyd.
Proof should and must be *precedent* to that, otherwise it’s all bullshit, like every single word you write.
John Whitehot “…where is the proof that Putin is a khazar slave…”
Only a slave would invite rats into his home knowing they will destroy it.
During a meeting with Moshe Vyacheslav Kantor, Putin said:
“They should come here, to Russia. We are ready to accept them.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/20/putin-says-europes-jews-should-move-to-russia/?utm_term=.7faf954b1280
“Only a slave would invite rats into his home knowing they will destroy it.”
as I suspected, you can only blather.
The “khazars” are the ones who control the CIA (and MI5/6 etc), along with a sizable part of the MsM.
Your employer Victoria Nuland, a khazar, put up a convenient junta headed by a jew in Ukraine because the only obstacle between khazars and world domination is Russia and its allies.
The coup is clearly an intent to put a wedge between EU and Russia to interrupt the pursuing of closer economical ties. It’s also intended to elicit a heavy armed response from Russia and to start another war on European soil – a war that would had costed millions of deaths and the destruction of entire countries, first of all Ukraine.
The same they did with Syria, with the additional Saudi and Qatari plan to connect the EU oil/gas infrastructure and become monopoly, so to have complete freedom over prices and gain ability to blackmail the EU into submission.
In their views, Russia becomes unable to defend anything and surrenders its strategic resources, Europe is completely subjugated to the petrodollar, and China will have to submit to the cartel as it finds itself in similar position. After that, comes the enslavement of the entire world population with the possible exception of some jews.
Look at yourself into the mirror, and ask how low you have fallen to try supporting this scheme.
Me I’d rather see nukes flying that live in a world like that.
John Whitehot “…you can only blather….”
Writing about yourself, again !
“…The “khazars” are the ones who control the CIA (and MI5/6 etc),…”
The Khazarim previously controlled Russia’s KGB and now control Putin and the FSB.
“…Your employer Victoria Nuland,…”
That person is not my employer nor connected to me in any way.
“…put up a convenient junta headed by a jew in Ukraine …”
The Ukrainian electorate elect Politicians in their country.
“…the only obstacle between khazars and world domination is Russia and its allies….”
Putin – Russia are weak, feeble and useless as any country that has looked at Putin – Russia as an ally has been destroyed, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.
The countries remaining, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela etc which consider Russia as an ally are waiting for their economies, infrastructure or military to be destroyed.
John Whitehot “…The coup is clearly an intent to put a wedge between EU and Russia…”
You are completely mistaken.
The main countries of the EU, UK, France, Germany, Poland, etc., support the new government in Ukraine.
The EU is interested in implementing the Khazar plan to break up the Russian Federation in order to loot and plunder it to finance a new “Empire”.
Putin is assisting the Khazarim by preparing the conditions for a proportion of the Russian populace to rise up in protests which will eventually set off a revolution in Russia.
Putin has become the new Robert Mugabe of Russia and turned it into the Zimbabwe of Europe.
Putin impoverishes the Russian masses by many many millions and enriches the Khazars and his corrupt cabal by many many US$ Billions.
20 million Russians increasingly live in poverty on an income of US$139 or less per month with approx 50% of Russians on the breadline, edge of poverty with an income of US$500 or less per month.
2017 – Poverty in Russia Hits Decade-High https://www.rferl.org/a/recession-sanctions-left-20-million-russians-living-poverty-2016-up-300000-2015/28413387.html
Putin’s army of Khazar Billionaires who started with nothing and corruptly acquired Russian State assets now own large part of the Russian economy.
Jerusalem Post: AT PUTIN’S SIDE, AN ARMY OF JEWISH BILLIONAIRES http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/At-Putins-side-an-army-of-Jewish-billionaires
you are hilarious.
Syria has been ravaged by a civil war spanning 6 years of furious fighting and has had its territory largely occupied by terrorists.
And you have the face of claiming shit like “Syria was a very large exporter of Phosphates in 2010, currently zero exports:, or “Syrian oil production dropped from 400,000 B/D, the latest figure is not known”.
What do you expect from a country that your employers put on their kill list?
You lost, you zionists.
John Whitehot “…you are hilarious….”
Whilst you are a person with very stupid opinions.
Its difficult to write in your Yiddish language, so what part of the English language do you not understand:
Putin has done the work his masters ordered which looks remarkably like the Oded Yinon Plan.
This is Syria’s reality:
Syria 500,000 plus killed, 1.9 Million injured, 6 Million displaced refugees,
Syrian life expectancy has dropped from 70.5 years in 2010 to an estimated 55.4 years in 2015.
Syrian Infrastructure destroyed, Syrian economy trashed.
Syrian oil production dropped from 400,000 B/D, the latest figure is not known.
Syria was a very large exporter of Phosphates in 2010, currently zero exports.
This war has already cost Syria approx US$650 Billion in lost economic growth and could cost Syria nearly US$1.3 Trillion in lost economic growth by 2020.
look, messing causes with effects is an old propaganda trick.
I’ll write it in “english for retards” edition, from cause to effect:
1- Israel makes ISIS with western complicity 2- Israel wants to depose Assad because it hates arab countries that thrive 3- Saudia and Qatar wants pipelines through Syria so they ally with Israel 4- Israel, Saudi and Qatar jihadists attempt to take over the country. 5- Syria is in difficult position as the above terrorists are occupying large parts of nationa territory and they threaten Damascus. Assad asks Russia for help. 6- Russia starts bombing Israeli, Saudi and Qatari paid and armed jihadists. 7- the jihadists are exterminated and their employers butthurt like never in their history.
all your shit about Syrian oil production and infrastructure happens during points 4 and 5, when terrorists decide they want to put down the democratically elected government.
John Whitehot This is Syria’s reality:
Syria 500,000 plus killed, 1.9 Million injured, 6 Million displaced refugees,
Syrian life expectancy has dropped from 70.5 years in 2010 to an estimated 55.4 years in 2015.
Syrian Infrastructure destroyed, Syrian economy trashed.
Syrian oil production dropped from 400,000 B/D, the latest figure is not known.
Syria was a very large exporter of Phosphates in 2010, currently zero exports.
This war has already cost Syria approx US$650 Billion in lost economic growth and could cost Syria nearly US$1.3 Trillion in lost economic growth by 2020.
ISIS is not over, and this must be clear for Russia army. As far as Israel-USA-NATO continue supporting and feeding terrorists, ISIS will continue in Syria or elsewhere (Afganistan, Phullipins, Lybia, Lenabo, Yemen) wherever Israel-USA-NATO need them. Syria is still far from getting rid of all terrorists, and they are becoming bomb suicide elements. Intelligent Russia and Syria has a hard work ahead after big war is ended. Still there are big rpoblems like kurds (USA-puppets), Turkey, and Golan highs.
Israel will busy for a long time after Trump’s disservice. NATO is not monolithic unit as US policy at whole. Pentagon, CIA have own game. So NO Israel-USA-NATO goals: only own interests of a lot of players. ISIS not needed more as not achieved the main goal (for some players): breaking of shiite axis: Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon.
against false optimism
Russia to withdraw 23 warplanes, two Ka-52 helicopters, #Russian military police, infantry,special forces, military engineering& demining forces as well as a number of military personnel working in field hospitals in Syria
Do not worry. Russia has very good transportation jets)
for lifting soldiers home :))
And can be deployed very quick again. See big military training at the Russia area with mass re-deployment of any kind of troops to any point defined.
because in your crumbling russophobic world, optimism is when jihadists impose sharia law over independent countries.
sometimes i wonder if your like would need a decade of sharia law so to see by themselves how nice you live under it. perhaps you’d find some new appreciation for the effort of those who fight terrorism.
whitecockie, i am nor russophobic. i simply describe the russian reality. and it is dark. similar like maerican countryside.
……….And Shlomomon , You are a nothing, a daft hubris filled troll without the eyes to see past the end of his pinocchio nose.
solomon, reality is not something you can describe, none of us can.
you can only describe your personal perception of it, and in your case it is inevitably filtered through a lens of intense and rabid hate for Russia. The same goes when you digress to speculating the future – your tendency is to build on the above perception and wishfully augur all the worse things to the country you hate most.
solomon, reality is not something you can describe, none of us can
oh, johny is a philosopher! :)
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a very hasty decision in my opinion…the war is far from over
the war is over in the sense that its outcome is decided.
Putin has all the information he needs to take this decision. the terrorists infrastructure is destroyed – that has been the main logic behind the VKS involvement – the Russian mission is accomplished as they deprived the jihadists of the means to perform any meaningful offensive operation. Jihadists supply routes are cut, they won’t be able to let in any large number of men and material. In this context, Turkey must also have agreed its support.
From now on, the Syrian Armed forces effort is directed at mopping up the remaining pockets of jihadism, with all the cities liberated aside from Idlib.
It’s likely that the withdrawal entity will be largely decided by the military on the basis of what tasks they still will perform in the country. This means that probably the largest part of the ground troops and a part of the air grouping will return home.
I can’t fully agree John, I think this is a political move on Vlads part to “Bring the boys home”…………….before he has to send them back out again ? ( Palmyra all over again ???? ).The next round in Syria is going to be pure hit and run by the combined efforts of Israel/ISIS/CIA Merc.forces. The constant destabilisation will be the name of the game, much like the low key efforts one see’s in Europe and the US with false flags etc.Anything to hinder the reconstruction of Syria and the re-establishment of a stable governance. Good to see you back on the grid, bringing reality back where so often chaos reigns ! ;-)
“he combined efforts of Israel/ISIS/CIA Merc”
the point is that they are dead.
The airstrikes accomplished that, along with the SAA action.
The terrorist countries Israel and Saudia had raised an army to fullfill their regime change aims. That army is destroyed for good.
They won’t be able to perform nothing but terror-like acts for years and years to come, and for those there is no need to have deployed a sizable air grouping with ground and naval forces; imho the remaining need is to help the Syrian security services to deal with that kind of threat.
John Whitehot “…the point is that they are dead….”
The English have a saying: The King is Dead, long live the King.
yew you are right….i think that the whole (sane) worlds ows the Russians a big thank you for sending so many phsychos to meet their maker ,instead of coming to Europe and kill inoccents