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“Putin’s Puppet” Advances Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin

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“Putin’s Puppet” Advances Nuclear Missile Escalations Against Putin

Written by Caitlin Johnstone; Originally appeared at her blog

Yesterday the news broke that Swamp Monster-In-Chief John Bolton has been pushing President Trump to withdraw from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, the 1988 arms control agreement between the US and the Soviet Union eliminating all missiles of a specified range from the arsenals of the two nuclear superpowers. Today, Trump has announced that he will be doing exactly as Bolton instructed.

This would be the second missile treaty between the US and Russia that America has withdrawn from since it abandoned the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002. John Bolton, an actual psychopath who Trump hired as his National Security Advisor in April, ran point on that move as well back when he was part of the increasingly indistinguishable Bush administration.

“This is why John Bolton shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near US foreign policy,” tweeted Senator Rand Paul in response to early forecasts of the official announcement. “This would undo decades of bipartisan arms control dating from Reagan. We shouldn’t do it. We should seek to fix any problems with this treaty and move forward.”

“This is the most severe crisis in nuclear arms control since the 1980s,” Malcolm Chalmers, the deputy director general of the Royal United Services Institute, told The Guardian. “If the INF treaty collapses, and with the New Start treaty on strategic arms due to expire in 2021, the world could be left without any limits on the nuclear arsenals of nuclear states for the first time since 1972.”

“A disaster for Europe,” tweeted Russia-based journalist Bryan MacDonald. “The treaty removed Cruise & Pershing missiles, and Soviet ss20’s from the continent. Now, you will most likely see Russia launch a major build up in Kaliningrad & the US push into Poland. So you’re back to 1980, but the dividing line is closer to Moscow.”

“Russia has violated the agreement. They’ve been violating it for many years and I don’t know why President Obama didn’t negotiate or pull out,” Trump told reporters in Nevada. “We’re not going to let them violate a nuclear agreement and do weapons and we’re not allowed to. We’re the ones that have stayed in the agreement and we’ve honored the agreement but Russia has not unfortunately honored the agreement so we’re going to terminate the agreement, we’re going to pull out.”

What Trump did not mention is that the US has indeed been in violation of that agreement due to steps it began taking toward the development of a new ground-launched cruise missile last year. The US claims it began taking those steps due to Russian violations of the treaty with its own arsenal, while Russia claims the US has already been in violation of multiple arms control, nonproliferation, and disarmament agreements.

So, on the one front where cooler heads prevailing is quite literally the single most important thing in the world, the exact opposite is happening. Hotter, more impatient, more violent, more hawkish heads are prevailing over diplomacy and sensibility, potentially at the peril of the entire world should something unexpected go wrong as a result. This is of course coming after two years of Democratic Party loyalists attacking Trump on the basis that he has not been sufficiently hawkish toward Russia, and claiming that this is because he is Putin’s puppet.

In response to this predictable escalation the path for which has been lubricated by McResistance pundits and their neoconservative allies, those very same pundits are now reacting with horror that Putin’s puppet is now dangerously escalating tensions with Putin.

“BREAKING: Trump announces that the United States will pull out of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty that the US has been in for 31 years,” exclaimed the popular Russiagater Brian Krassenstein in a tweet that as of this writing has over 5,000 shares. “Welcome back to the Cold War. This time it’s scarier And no, It’s not Obama, or Hillary or the Democrat’s fault. It’s ALL TRUMP!”

“Hilarious to listen to all this alarmed screaming about US withdrawal from INF Treaty emanating from those who for 2 years have been demanding that Trump get tough with Russia,” tweeted George Szamuely of the Global Policy Institute. “Now that they’ve got their arms race I hope they are pleased with themselves.”

“Are those who have spent the past two years warning of a Trump-Kremlin conspiracy & cheering confrontation w/ Russia ready to shut the fuck up yet?” asked Aaron Maté, who has been among the most consistently lucid critics of the Russiagate narrative in the US.

Are they ready to shut the fuck up? That would be great, but this is just the latest escalation in a steadily escalating new cold war, and these blithering idiots didn’t shut the fuck up at any of the other steps toward nuclear holocaust. They didn’t shut the fuck up after Trump’s capitulation to the longstanding neoconservative agenda to arm Ukraine against Russia. They didn’t shut the fuck up after Americans killed Russians in Syria as part of their regime change occupation of that country. They didn’t shut the fuck up when this administration adopted a Nuclear Posture Review with greatly increased aggression toward Russia and blurred lines between when nuclear strikes are and are not appropriate. They didn’t shut the fuck up when Trump started sending war ships into the Black Sea “to counter Russia’s increased presence there.” They didn’t shut the fuck up when this administration forced RT and Sputnik to register as foreign agents. They didn’t shut the fuck up when this administration helped expand NATO with the addition of Montenegro, at the assigning of Russia hawk Kurt Volker as special representative to Ukraine, at the shutting down of a Russian consulate in San Francisco and throwing out Russian diplomats in August of last year, when Trump threw out dozens more diplomats in response to shaky claims about the poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal, or when he implemented aggressive sanctions on Russian oligarchs. Why would they shut the fuck up now?

As signs point to Mueller’s investigation wrapping up in the near future without turning up a single shred of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russian government, it’s time for everyone who helped advance this toxic, suicidal anti-Russia narrative to ask themselves one question: was it worth it? Was it worth it to help mount political pressure on a sitting president to continually escalate tensions with a nuclear superpower and loudly screaming that he’s a Putin puppet whenever he takes a step toward de-escalation? Was it worth it to help create an atmosphere where cooler heads don’t prevail in the one area where it’s absolutely essential for everyone’s survival that they do? Or is it maybe time to shut the fuck up for a while and rethink your entire worldview?

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Zo Fu

Well, it is worse article then in West mainstream. Which is really not so easy but this “author” achieved that. Congratulations (sarcasm alert).

NWOD

Catilan Johnson is one of the good guys. You are missing the point if you are attacking her.

Zo Fu

thos article is so biased and confusing, that Soros would be happy with that.

NWOD

She is critiquing the anti-Russian narrative in the US and condemning the US pulling out of the INF. Perhaps it was hastily written but I don’t find it confusing.

Caitlan is an anti-Establishment, anti-Empire peace-seeker. Suggest you re-read with that in mind :).

Concrete Mike

Im starting to understand you more. We are in agreement today.

Cheers dude

NWOD

This is incredibly destabilizing. There is an article on ZH regarding US’ decision to withdraw from the INF. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-21/russia-slams-us-pullout-inf-treaty-seeking-concessions-through-blackmail

Now that NATO is surrounding Russia, this will allow the Evil Empire to place innumerable missile destroyers on Russia’s border, to finally enable the US’ goal of achieving a nuclear war victory by launching a first strike and preventing a Russian retaliatory strike. US could launch a first strike with ballistic missiles together with cruise missiles to take out Russian retaliatory missiles, and then use ABM missiles around the border to clean up any missiles that survived and were launched in retaliation.

This is going to force Russia to increase reliance on mobile (train, truck, ship and submarine) missiles, and hope they can hide them sufficiently from US satellites. An underground network of missiles that can be moved on rail to hide their movements may be necessary.

In any event this is an extremely destabilizing move. It will force Russia to consider launching its missiles whenever a cruise missile is fired anywhere along its borders.

I remember quite well the US freak-out when USSR wanted to place missiles in Cuba. This is thousands of times more destabilizing.

With the Trumptard’s Space War, no doubt US will seek to weaponize space as well. A full blown arms race seems to be on.

Zo Fu

Arm race will not take place. You don’t have any possibility to stop full scale nuclear attack or answer to this attack with anything else then your full scale retaliatory attack. Nobody will survive anywhere in the world. Even with weapons we have at the moment, Earth will be destructed 10 times. But you are right that situation is much worse then Cuban missile crisis. This time it is the end of the story.

NWOD

Well the Jew supremacist (bear in mind US is largely run by Jew supremacists, not Americans) dream for Global Hegemony involves subduing Russia. The current plan is to use nuclear disablement to achieve that (i.e., to be able to disable Russian nuclear forces and then threaten Moscow, etc. unless Russia surrenders to Global Government (by Jews and blue Bloods, not really by Americans, who have nothing to gain and everything to lose by this action)).

So here are the steps. Surround Russia with nuclear-armed cruise missiles everywhere it can, and put some “defensive” missiles in space and also all around Russia. Initiate a first strike with nuclear ballistic (ship-borne, submarine-borne, land-based) as well as nuclear cruise (air-borne with stealth fighters and ship-launched, submarine-launched and land-launched, from all the bases surrounding Russia) to try to take out all of Russia’s nuclear retaliation potential. Then tell Russia: surrender, or we will strike Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.; if you try to launch against us, you only have a few missiles left, and we have all these ABM systems in space and Poland and in the US and everywhere else, we will shoot down the few nuclear missiles you have left and as punishment we will take out another 10 Russian cities.

Withdrawal from INF is a hugely destabilizing move that does not necessarily threaten the whole world, mainly it threatens Russia. So Russia will need to find a way to retaliate, which means, being able to preserve its nuclear deterrent. That is what my prior post was about. It will lead to a major arms race but it is also extremely destabilizing because if Russia detects a cruise missile launch, it will not know if this launch is meant to attack its nuclear arsenal or not. In current situation, Russia is threatened only by ballistic missile launches, which happen far less frequently and there is in place a communication mechanism to announce them ahead of time so the other side knows it is not an attack. It is not possible to have the same type of notification for cruise missiles since they look just like any other jet.

John Brown

This won’t happen if Russia puts such missiles in Venezuela, Cuba, Syria etc. with massive 100 megaton warheads like the Russian nuclear torpedo, except with hypersonic speed warheads, so they can reach targets deep in the USSA, Israel etc. like the USSA land based nuclear missiles and bomber and naval bases etc. in less than 4 minutes, if the USSA puts such missiles in close proximity to Russia. Russia also needs to start putting some nukes in orbit now as well. Also as the USSA is bankrupt they can’t afford a full arms race.

Bertek

Maybe the RF should stop selling the Americans rocket motors that are used to launch American spy satellites.

NWOD

I never ever understood why Russia ever did that. Sure it raises some revenue but everything launched is designed to be used against her.

putinbeater

no, boy, the army does not use russian systems.

Tommy Jensen

Lets say Russia has equipped the rocket motors with hacking election chips. This would explain a whole lot.

putinbeater

that program will finished in may 2019, NASA canceled the business, moscow is very unhappy.

Jesus

US is withdrawing from INF and the New Start treaties because they have been trumped technologically by the Russians and their negotiating position is weak. Really does not matter how man you junk Tomahawk cruise missiles they deploy in Poland and Roumania, Russia can deal with them effectively from Kaliningrad and western Russia where their A2AD defenses are very strong. As far as the delusional verbal sewage coming from US, they realize they have to play the role of “” if you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.

putinbeater

somehow you are very agressive and you put russia in position of agressor :DDDD

Jesus

Listen up troll, the reality of the matter is that Russians have a clear advantage over the US, in rocketry (ICBMs, and surface to air defenses), cruise missiles, subsonic and supersonic, hypersonic weapons, EW, antiballistic missile systems, submersible Poseidon platform, nuclear powered cruise missiles……..you get the idea? When these weapons are fully deployed Russia can spank US anytime it wants to.

putinbeater

this BS i heard during cold war. and i saw the result.

the fact is, nobody saw your wonderweapons. there are only animeted mangas.

putinbeater

we will see, whether russians will have courage to shift sime missiles in Cuba?

John Brown

A first strike won’t work if Russia puts such missiles in Venezuela, Cuba, Syria etc. with massive 100 megaton warheads like the Russian nuclear torpedo, except with hypersonic speed warheads, so they can reach targets deep in the USSA, Israel etc. like the USSA land based nuclear missiles and bomber and naval bases etc. in less than 4 minutes, if the USSA puts such missiles in close proximity to Russia. Also as the USSA is bankrupt they can’t afford a full arms race.

putinbeater

stop your bullshits

TiredOfBsToo

Agree fully with Aaron Mate. The Democraps. in bed with the Deep State psychopaths, have been pushing Trump since his election, to get tough on Russia. It’s only natural that now they would blame Trump for getting tough with Russia rather than look at the result of their actions for 2 years towards the man who desired peace with Russia. I for one will ignore their shrieking about world war content to realize that if it comes, the Democraps and their herd of sheep, and not just us, will get to experience the fruits of their labor.

Concrete Mike

Yes and i will gladly shoot the democrats in the back when the time comes.

Watch yo back max booth!

Bertek

The Russians should welcome this.

The US violates every treaty while expecting others to follow them.

Zo Fu

Russians (especially Putin & Lavrov) should stop making politics. They failed. Everything they did with the hope of diplomatic solution was just ONE BIG WASTE OF TIME and no more diplomacy is possible since now. With IMF cancelled there is no room left. Yesterday America was acting like an idiot with a live grenade in the hand. Today America is acting like an idiot with a grenade with the safety off.

Basically, you don’t want negotiate with an idiot with handgrenade, but Putin tried it. But even Putin & Lavrov are not so stupid to negotiate with an idiot with handgranade in his hand and safety off.

What IMF cancellation really means ? That existing military installations in Poland and Romania will be ASAP upgraded to medium range ballistic ones, capable to hit and destroy Moscow, St Petersburg and strategic ICBM installations. It is shifting balance totally against Russia in the event of preventive strike from USA. This needs very harsh reaction from Russia. IMHO it is a declaration of a war. Not COLD war, but very HOT one. And Putin still believes that West is a “partner”. Pathetic.

putinbeater

Russians (especially Putin & Lavrov) should stop making politics. They failed.

my words, too

John Whitehot

now bring in jens holm and tell it’s his word too you piece of human misery.

Concrete Mike

Last time i checked assad is still there but isis aint.

Putin win!!

John Whitehot

“Russians (especially Putin & Lavrov) should stop making politics”

nah. you should stop making propaganda.

Promitheas Apollonious

it hurts you and keep you up at night this whole affair doesn’t it ?

Sinbad2

You see intermediate range nukes are not a threat to the US, just Europe and Russia. The US wants to start a nuclear war in Europe, and not have any of the messy stuff in the US. All Russia can and is doing, is make it clear to the US, that even if the US attacks from Poland, it will be the USA that gets the nuclear retaliation.

NWOD

In general you are correct, Russia cannot base its nukes anywhere to make intermediate ones a threat to US. Except maybe for Cuba.

putinbeater

dont forget, also EU must allow to yanks allocate here new missiles.

Bertek

The Russians need to change their strategies and develop first strike capabilities.

Manuel Flores Escobar

USA never have deployed Nuclear weapons in South korea….because China and NK would have attacked them..thats why SK dont let USA to deploy Nuclear weapons.

Sinbad2

Of course the US has/had nukes in South Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#American_nuclear_weapons_in_South_Korea

Manuel Flores Escobar

read and look where SK defense ministry tell about the redeployment of Nukes in 2017..because actually they dont have neither nukes nor cruise/ballistic missile with nukes warhead!

Promitheas Apollonious

but……. jewwiki cant be wrong can it?

Gary Sellars

What BS. Fucking stupid…

Manuel Flores Escobar

I dont understand what you are talking about Gay Sellars!

Gary Sellars

The US has definitely deployed nukes in SK, but they were apparently withdrawn at the end of the Cold War. The SKs are a bunch of weak cucks who will fold and give the US whatever it wants. Heck, they just agreed to an extension of US troop presence and retention of a US General as supreme commander of the SK military. In fact, the hard-line SK anti-commies would even welcome US nukes because they are warmongering crazies.

gustavo

You are wrong.

Concrete Mike

Nukes in space…are you out to lunch?? Putting nukes in space is advertising to the whole universe come kill us.

How full of ourselves are we to think we are alone in space, to say we can put nukes there to fight amongst ourselves.

We are primitive apes that all we do is kill each other… never once have we stopped and think…wait a minute..this may piss off the galactic neighbors. Is being short sighted part of the human condition or is it because its fashionnable to be a short sighted sheep beats me.

We should really focus on all getting along, because we humans are galactic peices of shit right now. We have to stop focusing on tribal warfare.

I dont want to hear that we are alone..for abscence of evidence is not evidence of absence for one. And there is plenty of evidence out there anyways if one knows where to look.

Weapons in space is a stupid idea. Weapons need service…how can you service them in space??? This is just lunacy.

Tudor Miron

Honestly, I do not think that we should ever go for first strike. Russians should not start a war that will end humanity (as we know it). We will retaliate, with a devastating counter strike that’s for sure but we should not start it. Even if US deliver a strike from Europe (much shorter flight time than Russia to US) it doesn’t change much. Current state of nuclear weapons guaranties that both countries (the rest of the world shortly after) are reduced to glass and dust. New Russian weaponry only ensures that there is no escape for USA this time around. America benefited from two world wars greatly and came out of wwii as major player without significant losses. US country level elites seem to hope that some how they can manage it one more time (and war will zero all the debts). That’s the main danger at this point. Global level elites (Trump) still struggle at this point (while Trump is doing fine, self isolating US from their vassals) with country level elites (Killary and huge colonial apparatus/establishment of US). Lets see how it unfolds – Europeans (other than UK) are not happy becoming target for Russian medium and short range nukes. Klintonoids desperately need war. Global cabal is temporarily on humanities side (they are not ready to risk the world just yet). There are many prophecies (including American and western “prophets”) that Russia will save the world again. Let’s hope those “prophets” knew their business :)

Concrete Mike

I beleive you tudor. Russia has paid a huge price for war in the past, and unlike the west , russia still remebers the horrors of war and i can tell by the way i see most russians speak or write about it, you can feel the pain, the ghosts of past madness still haunt ing…

Thats why russia will not first strike, also you guys have class. Remember Churkin at UN? That was a real class act there.

The globalists are the real threat, like you said, these forces need to be kept in check somehow…i would target the globalist empire soft soft saudi underbelly.

To sum it all up, its hard to deal with people that dont know difference between austria and australia.

Good day Tudor.

Manuel Flores Escobar

That complex in Poland and Romania are very easy to destroy..just 4 P-800 missile vs Rumania complex and another pack of Iskander vs Poland complex ..and both are destroyed!…if USA deploy new complex..can destroy them again!…beside Russia can deploy Iskander K in Chukotka oblast only 84km from Alaska…

Sinbad2

The P800 is an anti ship missile. They are really cool, they don’t detonate on impact, they penetrate the hull then explode, blowing the ship up from the inside.

Manuel Flores Escobar

it is an antiship but can be used in lands attack as they have Glonass guide!

Zo Fu

You idiot. 6 minutes in the air. No chance you can intercept them all. 10 millions ppl dead in Moscow in less then 10 minutes since the time of the launch.

John Whitehot

and 150 millions people dead in the US 30 mins after they decided to put the icing on the cake of their retardness.

Manuel Flores Escobar

USA cannot intercept the P-800 ( 3000km/h) low fly….

Promitheas Apollonious

temper temper ….. you really hate it when none agrees with your jerking off dont you shit4brains.

gustavo

I just want to recall that right now the time Russia has in their ground missiles for lunching is just 1 min. Check it, and S-300, S-400, and S-500 can respond as soon a missile in Poland, Chec, or any part of the World is lunched (time of respond is less than 3 second).

John Brown

Russia should put such missiles in Venezuela, Cuba, Syria etc. with massive 100 megaton warheads like the Russian nuclear torpedo, if the USSA puts them in close proximity to Russia.

Zo Fu

It doesn’t solve anything. 1st strike on Russia from Poland and Romania will be deadly for Russia. The only think they can do is full scale retaliation counterattack. They will never be able intercept all short and mid range ballistic missiles NATO already have there.

John Whitehot

nor NATO can intercept any kind of retaliation aimed at all Europe and the continental US.

Game over.

but jewnazis win anyway. if they can’t dominate the world, better destroy every form of life on it.

If there was a hell, this would be the only people i’d put in it.

Promitheas Apollonious

The moment anything go hot the russians will know and I dont think they have any problem destroy it on the ground.

John Whitehot

yes, but that’s a given.

missiles take time to reach their targets. although, with hypersonic weapons Russia could reduce that time to a mere handful of seconds, and then try to intercept the few missiles that have been launched. it’s not impossible, but it’s hard.

what is frightening though, it’s that some jewlicker in washington could decide to start ww3 before Russia could produce significant amounts of hypersonics.

believe me, there is plenty of people with that mindset at the pentagon, in the congress and in the white house.

Promitheas Apollonious

relax if russians did not have sufficient missiles Putin will never come out and make it public knowledge. Let me help you think as a russian.

Before russians say they will build a weapon they already have it and in working quantities.

On the other hand the americans before they do anything they advertise it they arrange the budgets and the black money for the commissions who are usually so big that the project never has enough money to amount to anything perfect example F35 but not only and eventually never finish what they started because the time it take them to build it it be obsolete.

Do you know how the paper mate pen was invented and why? If you dont I tell you.

John Whitehot

“relax if russians did not have sufficient missiles Putin will never come out and make it public knowledge”

This is reasonable. But do the blockheads in DC know it? because I would not swear by it, perhaps Russia should double check that these people is aware of the consequences of any action they’ll take : ).

“Do you know how the paper mate pen was invented and why?”

no, i don’t. how was it?

Promitheas Apollonious

The politicians and supporters no they dont. But the military yes they do. They have the same facilities as the russians have as well most major nuclear powers, beside having a lot of their informers on the ground and within the ex soviet block governments and military.

So is not so simple what they planning to do and they know it better than you do. Their aim is to terrorize and turn the attention of their populations away form what is been done by them and their total enslavement.

The globalist know they lost the game so what they trying to do now is renegotiate everything, but lets not forget they already controlling most of europe and the colonies. Their plan now is to build a new iron curtain only this time what will close in is the western world. Dont forget the ones who created USSR now are running only western world, if they manage doing that because nothing is sealed yet.

Starting a war they for sure will lose is not within their planning and are not stupid despite the fact that their front figure heads are.

John Whitehot

agreed on most –

“Dont forget the ones who created USSR now are running only western world”

not on this.

people try to bring it out at regular intervals, but although conceptually it may not be totally wrong, historically it’s very wrong.

Nobody can dominate the world without dominating Russia (or the USSR back then).

And, in the good or the bad times, zionists were unable to put their hairy hands over it since 1917. They may have been close – like in the ’93-’99 period – but then went back to their shitholes and fucked off.

Promitheas Apollonious

Paper mate was invented when the first american astronauts went to space and they called earth saying `Huston we have a problem the pens dont work`. After a million $ and 6 months paper mate was invented and is the only pen that can write in anti gravity environment.

Similar problem rise when the russians went up to space and the answer to them use the pencil supplied to you. It sounds as a joke but is true. And it also shows the difference in mentality between west and east.

Promitheas Apollonious

they are not going to use hyper sonic weapons to hit targets in europe and if you hear the speech when Medvedev was president he also not only name the countries who will be hit but also given the time.

For the countries already a threat to russia their distraction will be total and faster they can lift their birds in the air and I do know what I am talking about. Let us hope it will not come to that as europe will be completely destroyed.

dontlietome

………………and that is why “they ” have been pushing so hard for over 30 years…………………. to get to where we are now…………….. a matter of a handful of years before the ref blows the whistle to signify “game over”.

Promitheas Apollonious

is this your wish because sure as heel you have no idea what you talking about. You sound very much like someone who think her well wishing is also reality. Go take a shower to cool down then re think things over.

Tommy Jensen

Keep cool. Try to look at it from the American monkies´s side:

Russia and Putin present hypersonic cruise missiles that can reach America everywhere, and hypersonic nukes ditto the 1´st March 2018 and US is without defenses.

So what to do? Washington and Trump withdraw from the INF treaty and set up more nukes in E-Europe to balance Russia´s superiority.

It shouldnt be a surprise to anybody that a monkey would act and think just like that. https://youtu.be/a92LKesAPAo

Zo Fu

You don’t have clue what are you talking about. Russian hypersonic technology don’t protect Russia against mid range ballistic missiles fired from Poland and Romania. Russian hypersonic technology means, that Russian ICBMs can hit anything in the US mainland without slightest chance of interception. So basically it means if USA decided 1st preventive strike on Russia, Russian answer will be deadly. But US 1st strike will be deadly as well. It is not win-win scenario. It is lose-lose scenario. Nobody will survive. And don’t be fooled. Idiots in USA are considering 1st strike scenario. They are basically morons. They don’t have self-protection instinct.

jade villaceran

Tommy want to say that usa cannot/ not enough to destroy russia with the present icbm that the usa have, that is why they are planning to use intermediate missiles around eastern europe to deter russia

Jens Holm

As ususal hardly none have any proposals for peace in stead of war.

And Sovjets to Berlin was fine as well as millions not be taken as colonies anymore, should stay defenceless like in WW1 and 2.

Caucasus and all South of Sibiria should stay open for Russians as they wish. Thats what written here.

Non Russian agressions are mentioned at all. None. Not a word about russians deploying more missiles in Kaliningrad, so we have to protect us by that by missiles as well. None.

No het agressions. No China/Sovjet pratice in the Baltics, but some some US soldiers 1000 km from the Russian border in Norway is a biiig agression. .

John Whitehot

you can’t be this foolish.

US soldiers in Norway aren’t 1000km from Russia, they’re more within 100 Kms.

secondly, Kaliningrad is Russian territory, and they are free to place all the missiles they want in it.

the US putting missiles in OTHER countries territory like Poland or Romania is the anomaly.

if you think you can get away with saying that, between a country that puts arms on its territory, and another that puts them on other’s territory, the former and not the latter is the aggressor, you will always get eggs and rotten tomatoes to your illwishing, livid jewnazi face.

Promitheas Apollonious

foolish no. Just a paid whore that does her best not to lose the day to day living and the free internet. Dont take her wrong she has to live too. Take her from the humorous side and then you have a good laugh.

John Whitehot

you are right. but even i am unable to ironyse on this kind of individuals.

perhaps instead of the humorous side i should consider the humanitarian one, and convince myself that when you have become a traitor to all the humanity, actually to the whole universe – in exchange of some shekels, then you are to be pitied as some error of the nature – that evolution will eventually correct, as in all other similar errors.

John Whitehot

the blockheads who run the US think that starting an arm race will damage Russian economy.

It’s beyond amazing how miserably foolish they still reason like it’s the 80ies and “the evil empire” has to pay up for maintaining an entire bloc of countries.

this time, it’s the “good empire” that has to pay for the defense of half-Europe.

but one must admit, that polaks and czechs are much more eager to be getting nuked for america than for russia/sssr.

gustavo

USA weapons factories (NASA, Los Alamos, Sanadia, Brookhaven, Lookney Martin, Boing, Ford, GMC,..) have two ways to speak: Before USA congress and senate “We are behind Russia, and Russia is moving out of our nuclear treat agreement. Russia is our enemy and wants to destroy our way of life, that is why we need those trillion dollars to be equal and stop Russia aggression.” Now, before normal civil northamerican: ” We are far beyond Russia which can only sell gas and oil. Our technology is very far beyond any stone age technology of Russia. Russia can be stopped just a single simple weapons we have. All of these is thanks to $$$ support of our government.” Do you see the difference ? One speech is for getting money, and the other is for justifying before civil people and convince the usefulness of this money.

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