Recent Kurdish-Turkish Escalation Delays US-backed Operations Against ISIS Near Raqqah

Being threatened to be ejected from NATO may not bother Erdogan but being denied any replacement parts and munitions for his NATO-equipped military probably would.

He could have sufficient reserves or switch to a different merchant, the Russians love money and hate sanctions.

Spare parts for Nato equipment can only be bought from the original factories or official suppliers. There is no black market for F16 spare parts and the like.

Russian parts cannot be used in Nato equipment. They might buy complete weapon systems, yes. The costs would be huge and delivery times can be counted in years.

You are correct about all of the points except that Russian equipment is much cheaper, and the turkey military gear ban may not be permanent.

Saudi Arabia is getting eastparts from Bulgaria. what’s to keep Turkey from getting parts from a nation that has shifted away from the west? Venezuela? Brazil? south Africa?

It would depend on the weapon system.

Forget buying spare parts of state of the art Nato systems in SA, Brasil or Venezuela. If Venezuela had any spare parts, he would sell them. He would even sell his mother in law if he could get any money for her.

I didn’t say state of the art. such parts would have to be a bit older.

turkey will be never kicked out. therefore is impossiblre threaten it in this way.

Still too slow.

US can fire on Nato jets if they operate unaauthorised outside of Nato treaty area. It is a defensive treaty, not an offensive one.

While technically that is true, practically this could not easily occur. Maybe in the future, due to Turkish actions, things will change.

In this you are correct. It will not be an easy decision, if ever, for the US to fire on turkish planes.

However, Erdogan has a way of provoking till the end and one day he just might miscalculate.

Too slow. shoot the jets; or use tomahawks like before.

Not all dreams come true.

Up to this point it has no reason to do this. It is likely though that if there is a no fly zone, it will be closed to everybody except the US.

It would be a practical decision by the US, not Rojava.

As for US ammo provided to the SDF not going to the PKK, there is no indication, let alone proof, that that is the case and Turkey has built a huge wall along the Rojava Turkey border. Smuggling would be difficult therefore, except through Irag where it might occur.

In case of a full scale invasion by Turkey of Rojava, all bets are off.

Where does PKK get it’s ammo then? it must come from somewhere and it is needed to fight ISIS.

what?)) my little baby friend, which planet are you from?? rusian plane shot the ISIS oil project??)) have you ever seen the map of Syria? Rusian plane has been shot down in north Latakia, ISIS has never been in this region!! :)) moreover, plane has been shot down after TWO MONTH lasting warning from Turkey. You calling FSA jihadists?? FSA are Syrians, they are fighting on their OWN land for their OWN future, despite all other mercenaries like Hezbollah terrorists, Iran, Russia, hazareyan soldiers from Afganistan. ISIS and SAA are fellows in this war: When turks captured Al Bab from ISIS, asadists forces literally in 2 days took territories south of Al bab from ISIS and reached the Euphrates river. How it might have happened if ISIS severaly fought with turks just in Al Bab for more than 2 months, do you have an answer, sweety?? ISIS just gave over this territory to Asad without a single shot! Come down to Earth. By the way I am not Turk, I am from Russia LOL

Emil Harazov, my favorite chechen jihadi supporter. Do I really need to dispence with your lies about the FSA. The FSA has many faces, few are Syrians who are committing unspeakable crimes upon the populations. Many are interlopers from the stans, and places like chechnya, and maybe your home. The rest are militant wahabists, desert folk, saudis, and other gulf monarchy special forces trying to topple a government for a variety of reasons, starting with cash and ending with religious psychosis. Isis did not fight with Turks in al bab, i mean they pretend fought with them. Like how Turks pretend to fight terrorism when they pretend to bomb isis but bomb the kurds. At the time the extensive business was done. Are you really trying to sell this ridiculous lie? The only reason the business ended is that tiger forces showed up and ended the party. ISIS was retreating, fighting for Deir Hafer, and just as their lines were collapsing, the craziest thing happened. FSA terrorist launched an offensive in Hama. Because FSA and ISIS work together. Same team different uniform type of a situation.

My little girly kurdo terrorists fan, i am not a chechen)) Try to learn a bit more about Russia and nationalities living there. FSA are SYRIANS there are no any other nationalities, there are no Chechens as well, WTF are you talking about? LOL. Chechens from underground movement fighting at the side of ISIS, very few of them like Al-Shishani (Tarhan Batirashvili). And hundreds of chechens presented in Syria now are from russian army, they patrol Aleppo now. “they pretend fought with them” ? ))) Do you really believe in this shit? Pretend? ISIS fought with turks over 2 months, turks lost just in this single battle 70 soldiers, ISIS conducted severe terrorist attacks inside Turkey as well, just in one turkish night club on New Year has been killed more than 100 people by ISIS. Is this a partnership, you call? are you drug addicted or something?? ISIS now is key benefit and partner of Asad and his allies, because only by using this reason (ISIS), Asad able to hold power and present himself as an alternative: save my presidency or you will get an ISIS in Syria. And that is the reason why ISIS gave over territories to Asad without a fight at the south of Al Bab. Wake up already!! :)))

You lie very well, as in you have a good command of the facts that you misuse to create a false impression. There is no FSA, if you mean a collection of syrians fighting for freedom, there is a pseudo alliance of various islamic organizations which range in discrimination from al Qaeda to far worse. The Syrians which may have been allive 5 years ago were murdered by often these elements. While there are legit Russian chechens, a police battalion that was in Aleppo, that is not what I am talking about. Many radicalized chechens fled the region after they were defeated by russia and russia supporting chechens and now those exiled chechens serve as a terrorist army in places like, you guessed it, Syria. There are others from various other stan nations and north africa, there is scum all around. You see, the army was engaged, without any actual fighting happening, stuff was destroyed, but its peanuts and it gave turkey reasons to shorten the ISIS supply lines. Note, since the access to turkey has been lost by ISIS, terrorist attacks in the west have gone down in level and sophistication from paris to a retarded snackbar with a knife and a car. Isis and Assad are not allies, it seems more likely that Sunni wahabists that are gathered in different parts of syria are allies. Assad has the only real army, and they showed up ready to fight, and they took that land from the FSA and the ISIS sissies, until your friends stabbed Assad in the back in Hama, which makes sense, to save the FSA’s evil twin they lost many lives.

Sorry sweety, pidar is your maiden name, not mine, as well as Dolboeb. Don’t ask apologize, i am very tolerated to people with mental dysfunction. And YES ISIS is EQUAL to YPG/PKK same bunch of terrorists. ISIS cutting heads, PKK blowing up bus stops with civilians. PKK conducting terrorist attacks in Turkey, ISIS doing exactly the same in Turkey.

poor brainwashed Islamist.

It’s sad, but there is no medicine to fix this.

i am not even a muslim, you moron :)))) bio-creatures like you became a complete zombi because of wide spread islamophobia.

No one, said you are a Muslim. Why would we insult the good people of Islam? You are an ISLAM-IST. A proponent and supporter of those who spread the radical ideology of Islam by militant means.

well, first of all, examine your own christianist who killed already more than 1 million people just in Iraq. Who already killed more than 350 civilians just in Syria (this figures recognized by US). You killed more civilians than ISIS, Alcaeda and Cucusclan altogether. Wash up your OWN hands from the blood, and then with a clear conscience, you will have a right to say something about islamists.

FSA are SYRIANS, you not able even mention a single soldier of FSA from other nationalities. The so-called army of Asad is Hezbollah terrorists, Iranians, shia mercenaries from Pakistan, Afganistan, and russia. Asad has only pussy cats “Tigers” who good just for making pictures. There are no “many” Chechens in Syria, only a couple tens, again, you just spreading a shit with no evidences. I mentioned just a single most well-known chechen fought for ISIS, and it was Al-Shishani, even more he is originally not from Chechnya but from Georgia. You still acting like a little boy with pimple ass and not able to answer my question: if ISIS have has a supply line from Turkey, why then ISIS conducted a bloodshed terrorist attacks against Turkey, eh? Why ISIS killed 70 turkish soldiers in the battle for Al Baba, eh? Do you have answers baby?????? ISIS and Asad are the most closed allies in this war. Asad just a single time fought against ISIS, and it was in Palmyra, all other fights taking place against his OWN nation, against FSA. Asad killed already more than 250 000 civilians, he using a chemical weapon, barrel bombs. And AGAIN second time i remind you an obvious fact that ISIS just gave over territories to Asad without any resistance! when after Al Bab was captured by Turkey. That is the FACTS, all your other hysteria is just a bullshit.

Your question is stupid. ISIS consists of many rogue groups, who knows why one does one thing or another. Overall, the relationship between Turkey and ISIS is a partnership. You think you can sell something else, goodluck making up your bs reality. Your statements are ridiculous lies. Assad is pretty much one of two groups in Syria fighting ISIS, the other is the Kurds. Makes sense that you slander them. They are the natural enemy of your terrorists, ISIS and their coterror organization FSA. Al- Bab was not captured by turkey. SAA chased away ISIS and Turks moved in. Those are the facts. I will laugh myself silly when kurds beat the turkish cowards and their terrible army, shame its all being done to help ISIS resist the SAA.

My question is obvious and your answer is just a crap. What that mean: “ISIS consists of many rogue groups”?? ISIS has a command center, ALL terrorist attacks conducted by ISIS has been confirmed by Amaq (media structure) affiliated with ISIS. And all those attacks against Turkey and its citizens been confirmed as well. Asad never fought against ISIS except Palmyra, just take a look at the map of combat operations since 2014. Al-Bab was not captured by Turkey, you said? Lolll hahah)) Are you a fucking alien or what? TWO MONTH turks fought against ISIS there, again baby, take a look at the maps. There was no SSA, USA, USSR nobody besides turkish army and FSA soldiers. Your kurds from YPG are just bunch of whores who selling their asses to everybody who supports them. All the time when Turks attack this kurdo-gypsy terrorists they start to cry and ask for help. These bastards are good for nothing, except blowing up civilians and shelling turkish wedding ceremonies.

Isis has command structure but its loose, and you are nit picking . The fact is there is no way to know what happened is that bomb attack without a confession. ISIS would take credit for it because that is what they do. It helps recruitment. Your lies about turkey capturing al bab are hilarious. Until SAA got there, you couldnt get near it. The kurds are noble people.

Take you head from the asshole and take a look at FACTS. What does it mean “command structure loose”? Where did found this stupid assumption? ISIS still acting clearly and coherently everywhere, is that mean they lost command? Again baby, take a look at all maps of combat operations in North Aleppo, in Al Bab, clowns from SSA never been there, FSA and turkish forces captured these territories from ISIS. You are a completely brainwashed sweety. Kurds from PKK/YPG are a bunch of barbarians and terrorists, no difference between them and ISIS: same methods, same ideas of occupation and Ethnic cleansing.

Emil, you are just repeating the same lies. Go bug someone you can trick like a child or a retarded person.

I am asking you the same questions which you unable to respond to, that is the thing. There are no “same lies”, there are same facts! The facts can not be changed, like you changing your fairytales here. Asking you again: what difference between ISIS and YPG/PKK?? YPG/PKK conducting terrorist attacks against civilians in Turkey, ISIS doing exactly the same thing. YPG wish to build their own state. ISIS doing exactly the same thing. Too many coincidences between them, eh?? The only difference is that YPG terrorists have a support of US, against ISIS terrorists. And i will remind you than Alkaeda also have had a support of US against Soviet forces in Afghanistan back in 1980-89, right? Do you remember how this support ended up for US and whole world???

Here is the difference. ISIS much like turkey is a bunch of Sunni fundamentalists. Both ISIS and Turkey work together, much like they did at Al-bab until the Syrian army showed up. YPG /PKK fight against ISIS and Turkey, but I repeat myself. It’s funny that you presume to lecture me, a non-interventionist, that Assad should not be helped by all civilized powers to wipe out and remove from the gene pool all traces of radical Islam from Syria. Peace can be achieved swiftly if Turkey stops supporting terrorists and attacking those that fight terrorists. Even as we speak Turkey is attacking the Kurds, stalling the offensive on Raqqa… You are a simple child, I don’t have time to be your father and teach you.

Again, second question which makes you mad: If ISIS and Turkey work together why ISIS conducted a savage terrorist attacks against turks: in the airport, in a night club, near Aya Sofya? where is the logic? Turks lost 70 soldiers in the fight against ISIS in Al Bab, where is the logic? Are you idiot? And stop spreading this shit that SSA took Al Bab. The whole world and US as well recognized that Al Bab is the victory of Turks. Asad even worse than ISIS and Alkaeda together. He wiped out already 250 000 people of his own nation, he used chemical weapon against innocent kids, he allowed foreign mercenaries like Hezbollah terrorists to kill Syrians on THEIR OWN LAND. Well probably Hezbollah not terrorists for you then, since you trying to justify crimes conducted by PKK/YPG? Go get some extra education and knowledge, instead of acting here like a stupid clown.

I cant tell if you are just dumb or ignorant either way, it is obvious that you and I share a totally different universe so enjoy your delusions, the truth will always be that SAA chased ISIS away from al bab, and the cowardly turkish criminals know that.

ahhahhaaa :)))) yeah keep consuming that drug you addicted to. It makes you hallucinations more colorful :))) SSA able only to take over territories without a fight by negotiations with ISIS partners, cowardly asking for help and hide behind a back of US soldiers.

You spread ridiculous lies. Fortunately, your only charm seems to be persistence.

lies about what? kurdish PKK that blew up a bus stop in Ankara in March 2016, killed 25 civilians there waiting for bus – is it lie?? 70 Turkish soldiers died in the fight for Al Bab against ISIS – is it lie?? Again, your brain is out of service because of chronic islam and turko phobia.

Little fish. I know you don’t understand what I am saying because you are a simpleton.

how old are you? 15? I did ask you simple questions, why u unable to answer and twerking your ass like a teenage girl?

Son, we don’t talk anymore. You aren’t an interesting person. Read a little more, spend less time in dark rooms, make some friends, we aren’t meant to be.

again no reply, just a crappy useless words, as expected. I don’t read fake web-sites, I MEET with real people in real life, I speak in three languages and i traveling a lot to see everything by my own eyes. But you just sitting on the sofa in rented unfurnished room, browsing Internet and pretending that you know something. Keep living in your fiction world.

did i tickle your balls too much, why do you keep responding. Shouldn’t you be out working in a taxi to support some terror cell somewhere?

idiocy and stupidity tickling my balls 24/7. No I shouldn’t work in a taxi, since your job not interested to me. as well as your hobby of spreading shit and lie based on first two factors, remember which? idiocy and stupidity. And balls…probably, well who knows your sexual diversity in gay-marriage legalized society.

I am sorry lonely troll, I cant keep feeding ya.

troll? :)) i have my real name and surname, unlike someone.

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I like Kurds too, but you are wrong about alliances. Syria contains 3 or 4 major conflicting sides which are not allied. It is NOT a 2 sided war. The alliances are basically East, West, Jihad and Turkey. All 4 are fighting the other three except maybe Turkey and west are not quite at war yet but getting close.

Even in a foursome you can usually figure out who is going where.

You have a dirty mind. I like that.

Assad is fighting FSA and AQ first and then ISIS, like the WW2 Germany first policy, because the former have more outside support and are therefore the bigger threat to him; which is quite rational but it doesn’t mean he is allied to ISIS. I have suggested since the Tomahawks that he do so even more by transferring more forces from Palmyra to Hama. For one thing they need that chemical site quick if they are to investigate it. I hate both Assad and FSA for banning abortion and hope they destroy each other and leave the whole Middle East to YPJ abortion rights, including Israel. but I know a wise strategy on Assads part when I see one and an FSA/AQ first strategy is wise in order to let Trump fight ISIS for him.

first of all, there is not such definition as “asad”. Asad nowadays is a political corpse. All “his” military power are Iranian terrorists from Hezbollah, shia-mercenaries from Afghanistan, Pakistan (on the ground), and russian air forces. Even more each of this sides (Iran and Russia) don’t give a shit about syrians and Syria, each of them care only about their own interests: Russia wants to draw attention from occupied Crimea and sanction which Putin’s oligarchs friends suffering from, and Iran building a shia-corridor throughout Syria to Livan until borders with Israel. FSA are the only one syrians fighting for their homes and their country there. In this particular scenario, ISIS is a natural ally of so-called “Asad”. ISIS is using by Iran/Russia as a pretext of their presence in Syria.

YPG , Turkey, Russia and USA are all fellow defenders of abortion rights and as such any conflict between them is a huge tragedy at least unless turkey banns abortion, which a dictator Erdogan might soon do. Both Russia and USA should be heavily arming YPJ but also taking measures to prevent transfer to PKK and to prevent Turkish bombing. Though Turkey should have an air corridor for Turkish bombers to reach ISIS with which they are no longer allied if they ever were, though they once cynically traded oil it was never a full alliance. Turkey should be encouraged to attack ISIS by bypassing Rojava to the east through Turk friendly Iraqi Kurdistan.

FSA were mostly syians, today not syrians

Also, i must apologize i had you confused with a different pidar. you may not be a chechen. Just a jihadist terrorist sympathizer. But you so dumb. You actually claim that ISIS is YPG. Why so much dumb?

Also, i must apologize i had you confused with a different pidar. you may not be a chechen. Just a jihadist terrorist sympathizer. But you so dumb. You actually claim that ISIS is YPG. Why so much dumb?

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You don’t have to be allies to attack simultaneously in a multisided conflict. that reasoning is overblown, such attacks show opportunism, not alliance.

Again Mr. Cohen, its proof, how much is enough to convince you, that is a different story.

ukrainina scum, your country shold be taken by russia

your brain should be taken by sheep since it works exactly the same way)) Ukraine has a history starts from the 12 century, “russia” has been created only in 18 century, before that russian territory been under control of Gold Horde empire.

you are liar. there was never no ukraine. there was kijevian russia. ukrainians are russians, ukrainian language isis only dialect of russian langueage.

Go get some educatiom first. KIEVIAN RUS that was the name of country. KIEVIAN. Kiev is the capital of Ukraine. Russia appeared only in 18 century. All centuries before that co called russia was a province of Golden Horde empire.

kiev was always russian city. and in that time the country name was RUS. not UKRAINA. ;)

Russia was always present. The border region between polsce and russians was call ukrajina. but no ukrainins, but russians. this tell you everyehere, when you visit slavisic instituete of universities.

when Kiev been established as a city, such type of definition as “russian” never been exist! :))) nowadays russian territory at that time been called Tartaria on all europian ancient maps. The name of their country thereafter was Moscovia. It’s become russia only in 18 century when tsar Peter First took power. Russians not even a nation, it’s a bunch of finno-ugric tribes mixed with tatars. Try to read some sort of historic books and articles about genetics, not just eating shitty fascist rusian propaganda :)))

such type of definition as “russian” never been exist

you are liar. read nestor, read emperor constantin also lots of wester sources wroute about russian from that time. either you do not nothing, or you are liar!

there was no “russian”! there was name RUS, Kievan Rus which is ancient name of nowadays Ukraine, as well as Persia is ancient name of Iran, or Prussia ancient name of nowadays territory of Germany. Or according to your logic, Prussia is also Russia just because there is existing such piece of wording like “russ”?? LOL

You are right that Turkey really did fight ISIS in Al-bab and I too was unhappy to see SAA cut them off and keep Turkey and ISIS from fighting. I think Turkey should be allowed to fight ISIS if they want to, as should everyone. However I think most Middle Easterners are Jihadists and that probably makes FSA jihadists. Even Obama had trouble arming them because their arms kept turning up in jihadist hands; forcing his turn to YPG instead.

Alignments have shifted since the shootdown, and attacks in a multisided conflict do not indicate alliance.

You mean do not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, but indicate strongly.

No, they left in a hurry and let the Turks take it. They left in the Hurry because SAA showed up and they were kicking butts and taking names all the way deir Hafer. To deny that Turkey and ISIS do business is to refuse to see the thief in the light.

again?)) you even shitted up here with your stupid lie? Show now just a single evidence that Al Bab been taken by SSA? SSA are bunch of gypsies and rabble. ISIS hand over territories on South of Al Bab for Asad without a single shot in accordance with their agreement, again WITHOUT A SINGLE SHOT or resistance. ISIS/SSA/Asad/Iran/Russia are allies in this war.

bs bs bs bs bs bs, from a guy who hasnt earned any respect despite his healthy, rich lifestyle.

looks like some turkish guy smashed your girlfriend or something? Why are you acting like a pregnant woman everywhere when you see word Turkey or turks? Be a man then, go and conduct another explosion on bus stop in Ankara, just like your kurdo-terorists used to do.

Like i said, why melt snow?

I did not think ”Ho Pw” was so wrong in his comment. Let us remember Tuquia’s successful commercial relationship with ISIS through stolen Syrian oil smuggling. I doubt that the end of ISIS really matters to Erdogan and that is more than demonstrated with its last attack against the Kurds who really fight ISIS. Not everything is what it seems sometimes. And much less dealing with treacherous and hypocritical Turks.

ISIS made their oil money at the wellhead or tank farms by selling it to independent smugglers and didn’t care to whom they sold it to.

Nor did they care Erdogan and his son about buying stolen oil. Because well they knew the exact origin of the oil and the exact identity of the sellers, ISIS. Which made me think that they would do everything possible to keep that dirty business afloat.

The ISUS black market for oil was destroyed well over a year ago. Along with most of the oil trucks and well heads. You are living in the past.

I fear that you are the one who lives in the future and a future something misinformed my dear friend. Go and check the news well and you’ll see that just a few hours ago government troops recapture Ash-Shair Gas field from ISIS. Strategic site well defended for obvious reasons. The day will come that ISIS will lose all its influence and hidden business in Syria but it will in the near future still.

The main depot at Ash Shair gas field was blown up by ISUS about 6 months ago. You go and check the news well.

Unless you are inventing publish your source my friend. Because if it were as you say ISIS would be very stupid defending and dying for a lot of trash unusable for so long. The most certain thing is that you are inventing and lying to defend a point of your own and how sad it would be because here we are talking about being objective by peacefully exchanging sincere opinions and nothing more.

I read the article on SF. Anyways I looked it up. Wikipedia: Third Battle of the Shaer Gas Field It was in May of 2016.They say the explosion of the field registered 4.4 on the Richter scale!! Wow, I did not now this. ISUS also blew up the other fields closer to T4 airbase, just to screw over the Syrian economy and power generation. So do you still think I am making up BULL SHIT stories ??

Post the link of your argument my friend, publish it to support the context both historical and logical of your comment. The only record of an event similar to what you say takes place at the time of ISIS’s withdrawal from the place when it is defeated as a sign of revenge. Otherwise it would not have any logic for ISIS to stay in the place and defend it at the price of the life of many fighter if it were not to have any strategic and economic value in the short term for them.

These reports come from South Front for God sake, the sight that you are on right now. Just type in ” Shaer Gas Field ” into your search engine. And yet again: A front line is held by ISUS to protect their area. It does not matter if the area holds a gas field or a bunch of cow crap.

A single link would be worth more than a thousand comments from you without the least foundation. Unless you publish a link from a trustworthy source everything you say will only be part of your own inventions against all logic and reality in order to vainly support a wrong point of yours I fear my friend. I may be wrong in my statement but you will have to provide proof before correcting me and with pleasure and sincere humility I will let myself be corrected.

Does the Disqus free plan allow me to post a link? What are you, a fricking lawyer? You know I’m right, that’s why you will not do the simple search for yourself. You prefer to spend your time bothering me and trying to piss me off. Just like a troll.

Your whining, childishness, and vulgarity only prove one thing. I have all the reason in my comments, while you use pure lies and imaginations of yours to support your dumb and unsupportive points. I’m sorry for you my dear friend. The more you insist, the more I will be right I am afraid.

Am I really being that vulgar Terence? I just got done looking at pictures of it burning on May 17,2016. This was also confirmed by satellite pictures of before and after on Bellingcat.com last year. Search “Shaer Gas Field destroyed”. Perhaps ISUS was not sure that they would hold the field after retaking it last May (economic warfare). This is proof beyond words. I do not make up fake stories like MSM. Good day sir.

Ok my friend, its okay. I’ll take a look. Have a good day too.

We break they fix.

stolen oil buying by Erdogan? what weed are you smoking? There was was only one “evidence” of this stupid assumption provided by Russia (photos of cistern) but Iraqi kurds of Barzani said that KURDS from iraqi Kurdistan selling oil to Turkey. And those pictures has been used by russians to prove of oil trading between ISIS and Turkey. Come back to EARTH.

Do not be so wit my friend. Not always the obvious is what it is. Research a little more and with a little more experience and objectivity. Of course Turkey did and continues to do business with everything that can be stolen from the Syrian people including oil of course. I’m afraid that only you did not know by now. Then come back to reality dear friend.

“experience”? Your experience in Turkophobia doesn’t make any sense. What business are you talking about? Turkey saved from death 3 million Syrian refugees, they spend from budget billions of dollars for this people. Turkey now has one of the biggest refugee camps on this planet. This is what you call business?? Losing money, spending them for refugees? Try to learn something more about this region not just by sitting in front of the screen, thousands of kilometers away from there. Sofa-experts are so eager to teach others, knowing nothing, but talking about “experience and objectivity”

First be well informed and objective avoiding all that wordlessness without meaning and foundation. Turkey is one of the worst countries in the world with Erdogan a deceitful dictator, treacherous and cheating even with its own citizens without any respect for the humanity and less for refugees being mistreated with all kinds of abuse and bad condition in Turkey. Unless you are an illegal child of Erdogan blinded by the blood bond you will not have to defend it because no matter how you try you will never succeed because the reality is more than obvious for everyone with good judgment.

well informed? where you get that lie and rumors presented by you as an “information”? have you ever been in Turkey? have ever visited refugee camps? No never, right? Just sitting somewhere in Europe in your townhouse, you trying to represent yourself as an another sofa-expert. Erdogan is the genuine leader of Turkey, hundreds of people died at that night of coup for him, for democracy. Turkey became a home for THREE MILLION Syrian refugees, Erdogan saved their lives and had spent for them already more than 10 billion dollars from the national budget. What your country did for this people??? Eh?? You are just living in the fictional world which probably caused by using hard drugs. Come back to Earth, you have a full head of gray but talking like an uneducated teenager.

I think that quiet you will be much better and more convinced. I did not want to embarrass your saint Erdogan but I will give you an argument so that you could know how inhuman your infamous dear Erdogan may be. Speaking of refugee instead of being a benefactor as you thought, its just the opposite. Because only a monster will want to profit from the suffering of others. Did you know that your putrid Erdogan used the refugees only to blackmail the European union and earn dirty money like any vile human trafficker for them? Here is reliable information about of it: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35854413 Just let me know if you want more information and facts about your beloved father. Because it seems that innocently you knew nothing more than the lies he tells you about him.

yeah sure BBC news dated 20 march of 2016 LOL. Earn dirty money you said? Turkey already spent 10 billion dollars for refugees, what “earning money” are you talking about? Turkey provided for refugees a free medicine service, education, even citizenship. All those poor people would die under the barrel bombs if Erdogan wouldn’t help them and save them in Turkey. All of that are obvious facts, so what another information you able to provide me? Another stupid link to news web-site? Again have you ever been in Turkey? have you ever met a SINGLE Syrian refugee? No, you NOT, right? So WTF are you talking about here? All your information based on articles and opinion of propagandists, that is it, nothing more you able to provide as an evidence of your words.

Ten Billion of Euros for the welfare of refugees? If I am not mistaken, refugees who escape from hell in tuquia prefer to drown themselft in the sea instead of staying there. Post your source then just as I did with you. Because you only comment and comment pure verbiage without any basics and preamble of them. If you are so sure of the kindness of Turkey under the command of your beloved Erdogan, please support your words with a reliable link my friend. As long as you do not do that, for me and everyone, Turkey with Erdogan will remain the worst thing that could happen to humanity since the biblical flood.

I have no idea what tuquia means? Probably it;s just another slang word of nowadays fascists, whose ancestors used to create names for Jews before getting them burned in Gas chamber. Three million people living now in Turkey, tell me then how many of the “escaped from the hell”?? Well probably living in Aleppo under barrel bombs would be much better for them than living in “hell’ Turkey? Have you ever seen your children killed under bombs, my friend? Do you have an experience of running around with corpse of your kid in hands? well, then you have no idea how hell looks like.

Tell me the truth. Does anyone close to Erdogan pay you to write so much lying and other rubbish in favor of such a false, corrupt, fraudulent, lying, perverse man and mankind as Erdogan the ruiner of Turkey? If so, you will have to use more plausible arguments so that you will not be fired very soon, because everything you say or try to invent in favor of Turkey with his stupid and crazy leader stinks a lot my friend .

I just listed facts and you even unable to reply me on them properly. Erdogan saved 3 million people from death, the turkish economy under his rule developing even in crisis, terrorist attacks, and war around borders of the country. All of this obvious events taking place in reality because i have been paid?? You never been in Turkey, you don’t speak a turkish language, you just eating bullshit from the internet, and trying to prove that you know something about this country? Looks like it is you an ordinary troll who getting money for spreading this idiotic lie.

You alone give me all the reason to think that you work for the corrupt Turkish government of Erdogan talking pure nonsense and falsehood trying to clean the super stained figure splattered of shit on all sides of your pig hog Erdogan. It is the only logical explanation of so much false information that you only have and nobody else talks about it. For example 1) you say that Erdogan saves 3 million lives of Syrians what is completely false and implausible because if he mistreat, kills and cheat his own people, I doubt very much that he is able to help other peoples. 2)You say that there is democracy in Turkey when just yesterday Erdogan blocks access to Wikipedia and continues to fire and persecute thousands of followers of their political opponents what does not happen in a democracy. So better stop fooling yourself because you’ll never managed to fool me and anyone else with your propagandist trash for your dear corrupt crazy and sick Erdogan dear friend.

Baby are you sick with parkinson disease?? :))) this bull shit which you typed will not become a truth just because of repentance this idiotism three times. You are full of shitty propaganda, you never been in Turkey you don’t speak turkish language so what the fu..k are you trying to prove me? Erdogan saved 3 million Syrian refugees? Is it fact? YES, IT IS. More than 200 Turkish people died for Erdogan over coup night. These people came out to the streets and first time in history of Turkey prevented coup by cost of their lives. Is it fact? YES, IT IS! So about what “cheating his own people” are you talking about, punk!? There are more than 200 deputies from opposition presents in parliament. Opposition parties have their representatives as governors, ministers, mass media. Is this democracy?? YES, IT IS. But so funny that such dumb like you naming “democracy” US which destroyed Iraq, France which wiped out Libia and killed Muammar Kaddafi. You are just brainless zombi with limited education and ability to analyze information. You just eating mass-media junk and barfing it here in comments. And you are not my friend dude. There are no animals and monkeys among my friends.

Now there is no doubt that your mind is very twisted. I am sure that you have never been in Turkey and you do not speak the Turkish language for the obvious reason that you do not know anything about what goes on there. And from your anger attacks it’s more than obvious that your mental illness gets worse with every silly comment you make. Do yourself a favor and stop raving so much because you look very silly and ridiculous doing it and in the end you get angry and insult everyone as an angry wife when someone tells you the truth in the face. Be sure to take your pills on time and get better soon.

stop copy-pasting the same bull shit in every line of chat LOL. You probably acting like your nazi teacher Josef Goebbels who said: A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.

If I copied and pasted it is to help your slow process of understanding my friend. It’s just a technique used by many teachers of children with mental problems like you for sure. I apologize if that made you cry. Forgive me then for trying to help you that way. It was not intentional. I swear.

I don’t think that this is a technique, it’s just an example of your hysteria and impotence (not physical impotence i hope, but mental). I understand your inability to have a dispute with proving knowledge of facts, but this public flogging and execution which I am doing to you, it’s just for your benefit. Accept it as a treatment for your silliness. Next time try to prepare better for discussion, in order not to be humiliated again.

It is normal that you offer resistance to the method of repetition like any crazy and very sick person . You’ll have to put up with it and let it help you, because I’m afraid it’s the only one because of the gravity of your mental retardation. So that you want it or not I will continue using it until you give signal of improvement in your learning no matter how slow the process is. I encourage you my dearest friend, it is for your own sake.

Ok let’s continue with repetition :)) i used this method with my dog, and it will definitely works for you as well since my dog way more educated than you. Again: You never been in Turkey, you don’t know turkish language, you never speak to turkish people – so why you argue about turkish policy??

And regarding your Parkinson disease which resulted in numerous copy-paste of same text – here i can’t help you, dear. The only grave will be able to fix it. I will bring flowers to your funeral, that is all I can do for you.

As always vomiting pure shit I’m afraid but appart reducing yourselft to the height of your dog my beloved friend? Even when your mental retardation is not so far from one, I do not think it is a healthy thing that you lower yourself so much. I will add then the rhythm of the repetitions of the copy/paste education system to accelerate your rehabilitation and your return from the world of dogs to the world of the real men who do not complain nor squeal as a child when someone does not agree with them. In the meantime I whish you have a beautiful day, my great and dearest very sick friend. Bye for now my best friend.

I just heard a “woof woof”. Is was you my four-legged friend? :))) I hope you didn’t pee in my slippers again? Ok, lets continue then with dog training: You never been in Turkey, you don’t know turkish language, you never speak to turkish people – so why you argue about turkish policy then??

If I copied and pasted it is to help your slow process of understanding my friend. It’s just a technique used by many teachers of children with mental problems like you for sure. I apologize if that made you cry. Forgive me then for trying to help you that way. It was not intentional. I swear.

If I copied and pasted it is to help your slow process of understanding my friend. It’s just a technique used by many teachers of children with mental problems like you for sure. I apologize if that made you cry. Forgive me then for trying to help you that way. It was not intentional. I swear.

If I copied and pasted it is to help your slow process of understanding my friend. It’s just a technique used by many teachers of children with mental problems like you for sure. I apologize if that made you cry. Forgive me then for trying to help you that way. It was not intentional. I swear.

If I copied and pasted it is to help your slow process of understanding my friend. It’s just a technique used by many teachers of children with mental problems like you for sure. I apologize if that made you cry. Forgive me then for trying to help you that way. It was not intentional. I swear.

The unique mass-media junk and barging is yours my friend. Because all here we have enough common sense to choose well documented information and real and acurate stuff from the sites established on the internet and put aside the false and baseless garbage as what you write by lot in your comments. There is no doubt that your mental health gets worse day by day. I have a doubt. You wrote all that crap before or after taking your pills prescribed by your last psychiatrist my dear friend? Your psychiatrist should ban you from accessing the internet until you feel a bit better to avoid us being tortured with so many confusing and illogical comments on your part, I think.

You alone give me all the reason to think that you work for the corrupt Turkish government talking pure nonsense and falsehood trying to clean the figure super stained and splattered of shit on all sides of your dear Turkey lider Erdogan. Its the only logical explanation of your so much invented information like: 1)You say that Erdogan saves 3 million lives of Syrians what is completely false and implausible because if he mistreats his own country putting him under heavy dictatorship I doubt that he has moral and will to help other peoples. 2)You say that there is democracy in Turkey when just yesterday Erdogan blocks more site access like Wikipedia and continues to fire and persecute thousands of followers of his political opponents what does not happen in a democracy. Please stop fooling yourself because I and other readers will never believe your falsehoods and crappy propaganda for save the figure of your dear corrupt crazy and sick Erdogan.

You alone give me all the reason to think that you work for the corrupt Turkish government talking pure nonsense and falsehood trying to clean the figure super stained and splattered of shit on all sides of your dear Turkey lider Erdogan. Its the only logical explanation of your so much invented information like: 1)You say that Erdogan saves 3 million lives of Syrians what is completely false and implausible because if he mistreats his own country putting him under heavy dictatorship I doubt that he has moral and will to help other peoples. 2)You say that there is democracy in Turkey when just yesterday Erdogan blocks more site access like Wikipedia and continues to fire and persecute thousands of followers of his political opponents what does not happen in a democracy. Please stop fooling yourself because I and other readers will never believe your falsehoods and crappy propaganda for save the figure of your dear corrupt crazy and sick Erdogan.

all turks will be expelled from europe. free constantinopolis!

good for you little Hitler. Well then start building another Auschwitz camp for turks. Your fascist ancestors were doing great in this field. Funny thing that you are brave only behind a screen of laptop, in real live – just another retarded coward.

no hitler. i do not want eliminate them. the turks are foreign and enemy element in europe. for long time.

and be sure, i helped alreeady in several anti islamic laws, you jihadist.

exactly? that is what i am talking about. Hitler also started from styatement that Jews are “foreign and enemy element in europe” and situation ended up in gas chambers. Same thing with you and your so called “civilization”. You eliminating muslims IN THEIR HOME in Iraq, Libia, Syria and crying that muslims are comming in europe? Since you conducting a genocide againts muslims, you will got finally the same, in accordance with justice.

The main motive for Erdogan to fight ISIS is to take their territory, but that is a real motive. Also to avenge ISIS attacks on Turkey.

May be my friend, may be.

Turkey wants a front on which to fight ISIS, and they could get one through Iraqi Kurdistan with negotiated transit. though maybe not anymore after bombing.

oh look at that)) now another victim of turkophobia and propaganda will tell us about real life in Turkey which he learned about online LOL

Being so knowledgeable of Turkey why do you not bring us some link to sources supporting at least one of the good qualities of your leader and absolute master Erdogan? Because on television I only see Turks accusing your leader of thieves and cheats, manifesting in the street for more recount of votes of a last farce of consultation and many other evils that he did to his own people. I search on Turkish sites on the web and turns out to be the same crap after translating it and from there arises a tremendous doubt. Is it that we are talking about the same Turkey or some other that you invented and only lives in your creative imagination my dear friend?

exactly! that is what i talking about, all information you spreading here based on links, television, and internet. Do you know Turkish language? have you ever been in Turkey? You are using a google-translate and trying to convince me that Erdogan is evil? ))) hahha))) I know turkish, russian languages besides English, I am visiting Turkey every month, I have been 15 times in Ukraine after the annexation of Crimea. I am having a conversation with REAL people from REAl live. have you ever been in real life my friend? Do you even know that there is the world exist behind your screen?? yes a lot of people manifesting in Turkey against Erdogan, and this is very good to know, this is how democracy suppose to look like. But at the same time, they acknowledged that economic development of Turkey started after Erdogan came to power. Even now the economy of Turkey growing + 2.3% despite WEEKLY terrorist attacks of PKK inside country and war around borders.

Now I ask you the same question. In which world do you live, my friend? Are you talking to me from the distant past? Because today in modern day, not a single bullet is fired at any point in the world without everyone in the whole world being aware of it with live image and audio as proof of them. So the news of the wickedness, crap, traps, crimes and injustice to kurds, robbery and refugees human trafficking of Turkey through its leader Erdogan, stink to the last corner of the world and in live with all its sound light and image as proof of it. That is why it will do you no good to make us believe otherwise my deceived friend.

What? “not a single bullet is fired without everyone being aware” Have you ever heard about misinformation? For example: Russia insisted that ukranian warplane shoot down that passenger Malaysian Boeing in Donetsk, they have been insisting this statement TWO YEARS, tons of news-agencies and web-sites around the world repeated this statement, but finally after investigation turned out that it was NOT a Ukrainian warplane. Boeing has been shot down by russian Buk missile system, and Moscow admitted this fact! You just reminding me a fat average person who eating a junk food and getting bigger, old and SICK day after day. Same way you eating media junk food without event attempt to investigate what you swallowing. Listen, there are 12 million kurds living in Turkey. Show me now any news about “crimes and injustice” against this 12 million? Turkey now is the main supporter and partner of Iraqi Kurdistan, Barzani keeps visiting Erdogan at least 5 times in a year. What the f..ck are you talking about?? Turkey fighting against kurdish separatists and terrorists, Turks have ALL RIGHTS to protect their territorial integrity by International Law. keep that in mind. and start consuming healthy food, otherwise, your days are over.

The dutch jet shut down over ukraine was conducted by the rebels, which is beyond dispute, but the back story is interesting. The entire thing was an operation hatched by the CIA and SBU to frame the rebels for the attack by feeding them false information that the plane in question was a plane with soldiers headed to Lugansk. The rebels relied on the same source not knowing that it is compromised and used a buk to blast a civilian plane out of the sky. International politics is nasty business. The way the evil kiev regime sacrificed those people for sanctions is despicable.

oh that is interesting)) rebels you mentioned? so u mean to say that so-called “rebels” who are local miners and farmers were able to operate such a complicated system as a “BUK”?? Another question? where did they get it from? as well as hundreds of tanks, rocket launchers? Eh? Oh probably they found them in the mine? Or in a wheat field? “operation hatched by the CIA and SBU”? Hahha)) do you have any pieces of evidence or just barfing out another portion of stupid russian propaganda? And how you lovely talking about this “rebels” who just wanted to shot down a plane with Ukrainian soldiers. WTH? so separatists supported by russian army invaded into the sovereign state just wanted to kill Ukrainian soldiers in the sky of Ukraine??? Which country are u from be the way?

Let me fax it to you.

Its obvious the Russians are helping the rebels in Donetsk/Lugansk region. Would you like to have a conversation with a person who asks you to prove obvious things? I dont know what type of an education Ukrainian immigrants get In Vancouver, but in the rest of the world, when someone big or small loans a complicated piece of equipment, that tech comes with specialists, people who are there to train several shifts of capable operators. In the case of Ukraine and the buk, this is what happened. Russian propaganda has nothing to do with what I am saying, as they spun one stupid conspiracy after another. What is relevant is that SBU operators were able to acquire intercepts of very specific communications between AA operators and various ground Razvedka units, who were stupefied to find that the plane is not an IL-76. Killing Ukrainian soldiers in the sky of ukraine, was a strategy to prevent Ukrainian reinforcements to Lugansk, which were coming by aircraft. Several were shot down in the weeks prior to the dutch massacre. Assuming you suspend you ‘Disbelief,’ who is more evil, Russians for providing weapons to rebels, or Ukrainians for indirectly sacrificing hundreds of people to get Russia sanctioned? Also, a bit unrelated, I suspect this is what happens when yo utry to make friends https://youtu.be/Pd4FRfR9374

Aha now i became Ukrainian?? haha)) name Emil and surname Hazarov has nothing to do with Ukrainians, Ukrainians using greek religious names. Second: Boeing has been shot down by russian army, not “rebels” shit. This fact has been acknowledged by Igor Strelkov a russian FSB Colonel who invaded east Ukraine with his military squad. “prevent Ukrainian reinforcements to Lugansk”?? Lugansk is Ukranian territory, and they able to anything on their own land and country which integrity has been approved even by Russia at least TWICE in signed Budapest memorandum and bilateral agreement of collaboration between Ukraine and Russian signed in 2007. Russia supporting and suppling terrorists and separatists in Ukraine, Kiev in this particular situation has all rights to do whatever they want to do in accordance with international law, specifically using military power to protect the border of the country. Can you get it? Or your secondary school education not enough to understand international affairs and laws of this discipline? LOL

Here is what happens Emil. I produced some evidence and you produce ignorant opinion. I don’t care where you are from, you live in the west and you don’t know a thing about the matters you are discussing. Insult anyone you like, you have been exposed.

I have an experience of living in 6 countries, now i am living in Canada. This particular country stays beyond freaking europian fascism and islamophobia. What evidences have you produced? Your “evidence” exposed in seconds which I demonstrated with this “ISIS mercenary passport”.

and thanks you for showing me your cousin from Brasil :))) your mind works pretty much the same as his.

Do you remember the Chechen Isis fighters that come from Turkey to overthrow Assad?

https://twitter.com/Dr_Partizan/status/858301360655265792

hahhhah))) IDIOT do you even know what is written in this passport in russian language? he is not chechen!!!! LOL There is written that he is from Башкортостан – Baskortostan is republic inside Russian federation and has nothing to do with Chechnya LOOOOL. His surname is Fakhretdinov, chechens never use this type of names. This name using be Bashkirs and Tajiks. Have you even ever heard about this nationalities punk!? :))) and “isis fighter” carry everywhere a Turkish flag??? for what purpose? in order to be caught by ypg mercenary like this moron in video???? hahha))) idiotic propaganda of kurdo-terrorists consuming by idiots like you LOL

I think your Turkish denial speaks for itself. Now that you have been proved yet a get to be a troll without principles, shoo

one more time idiot, i am not turkish my first language is russian )) I told you what written in this passport in russian language, WTF are you trying to argue about? There is written that owner of this passport from Baskortostan not Chechnya! keep eating this bullshit propaganda, Bon appetit LOL

Good for you bro. You have been proven to be a jihadi apologist, and a general loud mouth waste, you will get no more replies from me.