Remembering Soleimani: Nasrallah Says Lebanon Exists On The Map Thanks To Iranian Support

Happy New Year Gryzor!! Wishing you a happy, healthy and prosperous 2021!!

The attrition factor in a kinetic-conflict between Israel and Iran, favors Iran greatly due to a multitude of points included military and non-military aspects.

– Larger population – richer nation in general – larger geo-graphical foot-print – better strategic depth – more vectors to potentially attack from (Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Iran) – way bigger industrial base from which to supplement a war, etc.,

Iran has it will fight Israel from many different areas all over the Middle East, this alone would present a massive logistical issue for the IDF. The way I see it is pretty simple actually.

Israel has thousands upon thousand of targets to choose from where as Iran and its allies only have so many targets in Israel they can destroy, not because of technical issues in getting to the assets but the reality that thee is only so much physical targets to be obliterated.

How many substations, power-plants, nuclear-facilities, air-strips, sea-ports, centers of military operations, airbases, barracks does Israel have? It’s not that many and they’re all under Iran’s precision missile umbrella.

Hi BIG , thanks , I wish you all the same ;-)

very good point about a strategic depth, 80% of Israeli electricity depend on less than 5 or 6 plants or so, many articles provide insight into the critical points of failure Israeli infrastructure , and that’s a major issue for war planners there.

Iran has the numbers, ranges, types and guidance that allow their arsenal to destroy those sensitive targets several times over even taking into account ABM defenses.

And that’s exactly why such a shooting war will NEVER materialize between the two arch-foes. Israel won’t act alone overtly for reasons you mentionned above.

Similarly, Iran won’t start it either, since it would risk NATO joining in on top of the GCC, like Saddam brought on himself in ’91.

So in the end, this war will quite fortunately remain on paper, books, e-books, and Disqus forums in the foreseeable future xD

Plus, time plays on the side of stability obviously. Considering Iran grows more and more militarily by the year and with it the ever-increasing costs of any direct intervention against it.

It certainly is needed to be as many as possible, when such a big procent are lazybums and unomplyed.

The Shiits Pope and Allah is helping Israel very well in economy as well.

“Thermo barbaric”:)

Thank you for your valuable contribution Jens, and a happy new year to you AND your friend Google.

It will be the hot word for 2021 in stead of Meetoo:)

LMFAO!!!

XD

XD is a blindfolded lying down Kyklope with a too big mouth.

Glad I could kickstart the year the right way , B.I.G ;-)

Your hope is misplaced. Somebody who denigrates others by calling them monkeys and at the same time writes as such is hopeless, I think.

Lol agreed. My reply to him was more rhetorical than anything real. I’ve stumbled across his unintelligible nonsense enough times to realize this any change is actually hopeless now.

People have overlooked how weak the Zionists are as they are in social and demographic decline. Many dual passport holders are fleeing.

How about Negev gets one? A Nuke one.

You are wrong gryzor, I usually agree with you but this time you are wrong man. Iran enriched today Uranium to 20% and Bibi has already said it is unacceptable for Israel. As I’ve told to Garga, we are going to an open conflict and the only question is when. You will cause us alot of damage with your missiles, I don’t doubt it. But your nuclear program will be stopped by peace or by war, and right now it’s by war. The distance between 20% to 90% is very short, we can not take that risk. Goodluck gryzor, you and Garga actually two of the normal Iranians I could be friends with on a different time and place.

I afraid I’m not IZ, and the reason is all over the place.

-Bibi was among the ridiculous handful of world leaders that opposed the JCPOA before and during its signature, and did everything within its power to destroy it. He found in the Trump administration the ideal vector to succeed in doing just that.

-Donald’s unilateralism essentially struck the final nail in the coffin of the internationally agreed document, and with it certified compliance from Iran in what was the very first Security Council treaty that its leaders accepted to seal by trusting both American and European leaders.

-Concessions were serious and plenty : the Arak heavy water reactor was destroyed, thousands of centrifuges were taken offline in Natanz (the very same that are getting back to service today, quite ironically) enrichment was limited to 3,67% so even lower than the usual 5%, and Tehran even accepted the most stringent and invasive inspection regime in the history of the AIEA, that in turn repeatedly confirmed its full compliance two years in a row.

You see, before the US tore up the internationally signed document in a historical mockery of a level unseen in the existence of the United Nations, Iran had voluntarily , essentially given up on every key technology and infrastructure of relevance to even a civilian nuclear program, let alone with a military element.

What Bibi succeeded is basically to reverse all those gain by lobbying the Trump administration as hard as it could to force it into retracting away from it and then even re-establishing the sanctions regime that existed prior to the JCPOA.

What is even more extraordinary is that by doing so, the US/Israel actually gave Iran the legal right to enact retaliatory measures that are explicitly specified within the P5+1 treaty in case one party decides to renege on core terms of the agreement. They also gave Iran’s hardline leaders the best case they could have ever imagined to sell their people, the best propaganda boost ever : factual and undeniable proof that when they finally decide to trust Western leaders and get back to the world order, they get betrayed plainly in return. Never in history could they hope for a better cliche with them having to invent anything. This is crazy. And you gave them that option on a golden plate, with your own hands. You can only blame your own shortsightedness, foolishness and non-stop appetite for confrontation.

You say you “couldn’t achieve de-nuclearization by peace” well of course man, you did everything to kill the peaceful option, you fought very hard for years to reach that objective, and you dare complain ? you dare whine in here telling us that “Iran wants war ?”, how the heck do you want anyone to take you seriously when your posture are so pathetically weak in the face of facts, acting like pyromaniac firefighters, as the saying goes ?

You seem like a smart guy IZ, but the recurring problem I always see in your rationale one topic to the other is the lack of perspective and context. Every time, you complain of a given situation by merely looking at its surface, and don’t bother going back to the root-cause that led things where they are. Stop taking close-up snapshots of everything , sit back and look at the bigger picture, you’ll be surprised by what you learn.

And as I always tell you : you reap what you sow. Deal with it when it bites back.

Don’t pin the blame of your own policies on people you impose it to. When you act, people react. When you abuse, people slap back. Iran should be a lesson, ditto Hezbollah, which wouldn’t even exist in Lebanon had you not destroyed the country in 82 followed by the harshest occupation of its southern lands for 17 years straight. Ditto Palestinian struggle, when you decided to outright ignore the letter and the word of the Oslo accord by expanding settlement policy even further while the PLO officially disarmed and started active collaboration with Israel’s security services. Ditto the whole situation you created by coming out of nowhere claiming lands by force and terrorism right after world war 2 against people whom had never done a thing against Jews and simply happened to leave peacefully where you unilaterally decided to come in force.

I am not going to argue with what you wrote gryzor, we have a big part in the current situation. I am not trying to stop you or tell you what to do anymore, I think we are past that point. The nuclear deal is dead, and by enriching Uranium you have also made Israel and the Sunni Arab states much closer. The hardlines in Iran were always in power, I’d rather see someone like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad than Rouhani, atleast he tells us what he truely thinks and wants. We both know Zionism and Islamism can not co-exist, a war was always a matter of time since the day of the IRGC revolution. Let it be. I think both sides have said it all. Diplomacy is over.

You make no sense at all IZ. None. Rouhani and the Obama administration along with Europe, Russia AND China, reached an historic agreement that both kept the hardliners at bay in Iran AND provided the world with an Iran that voluntarily relinquished its ability at nuclear technologies, reduced everything to a bare minimum and literally destroyed and/or dismantled some key infrastructure they took years to establish in order to fully comply with the AIEA inspection regime. Gulf states and Israel did everything to destroy all of that progress and they got exactly what they wanted : hardliners back in charge and a return to nuclear development in full steam by the regime.

You do not get to complain of a situation you were the sole responsible for. Should you add insult to the injury of the suffering of millions of Iranian reeling under the illegal sanctions regime engineered by Trump on hysterical lobbyism by Bibi , AIPAC and their friends in Congress, you will get the only thing then deserve : mass casualties and destruction on imaginable scale, and so without the international community at your side, or legitimacy, or anything.

If push comes to shove and Israelis like yourself support their government in getting ahead with an outright attack that would kill Iranians, after they already humiliated this nation and impoverished so many of its inhabitants under the crushing weight of unilateral sanctions : let them crumble under a missile hell. The dice has benn cast and I will FULLY support Iran’s right to defend itself at ANY cost, no matter what it takes and the impact it has on Israel, I simply, won’t, care one bit. If you are a reflection of the average Israeli, then may you have it. You’re gambling with the life of my relatives ? You’re now my enemy. You do not want peace at any cost and OCD on being righteous above all existing facts ? Then please, go ahead and get your war, but also its many, many dire consequences. And please then don’t come crying we use banned weapons of mass destruction and immoral warheads when they explode over key districts of your country.