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NOVEMBER 2024

Russiagate Suddenly Becomes Bigger

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Russiagate Suddenly Becomes Bigger

Written by Philip Giraldi; Originally appeared at The Unz Review

It’s hard to know where to begin. Last Friday’s indictment of 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies by Special Counsel Robert Mueller was detailed in a 37 page document that provided a great deal of specific evidence claiming that a company based in St. Petersburg, starting in 2014, was using social media to assess American attitudes. Using that assessment, the company inter alia allegedly later ran a clandestine operation seeking to influence opinion in the United States regarding the candidates in the 2016 election in which it favored Donald Trump and denigrated Hillary Clinton. The Russians identified by name are all back in Russia and cannot be extradited to the U.S., so the indictment is, to a certain extent, political theater as the accused’s defense will never be heard.

In presenting the document, Rod Rosenstein, Deputy Attorney General, stressed that there was no evidence to suggest that the alleged Russian activity actually changed the result of the 2016 presidential election or that any actual votes were altered or tampered with. Nor was there any direct link to either the Russian government or its officials or to the Donald Trump campaign developed as a result of the nine-month long investigation. There was also lacking any mention in the indictment of the Democratic National Committee, Hillary Clinton and Podesta e-mails, so it is to be presumed that the activity described in the document was unrelated to the WikiLeaks disclosures.

Those of the “okay, there’s smoke but where’s the fire” school of thought immediately noted the significant elephant in the room, namely that the document did not include any suggestion that there had been collusion between Team Trump and Moscow. As that narrative has become the very raison d’etre driving the Mueller investigation, its omission is noteworthy. Meanwhile, those who see more substance in what was revealed by the evidence provided in the indictment and who, for political reasons, would like to see Trump damaged, will surely be encouraged by their belief that the noose is tightening around the president.

Assuming the indictment is accurate, I would agree that the activity of the Internet Research Agency does indeed have some of the hallmarks of a covert action intelligence operation in terms how it used some spying tradecraft to support its organization, targeting and activity. But its employees also displayed considerable amateur behavior, suggesting that they were not professional spies, supporting the argument that it was not a government intelligence operation or an initiative under Kremlin control. And beyond that, so what? Even on a worst-case basis, stirring things up is what intelligence agencies do, and no one is more active in interfering in foreign governments and elections than the United States of America, most notably in Russia for the election of Boris Yeltsin in 1996, which was arranged by Washington, and more recently in Ukraine in 2014. From my own experience I can cite Italy’s 1976 national election in which the CIA went all out to keep the communists out of government. Couriers were discreetly dispatched to the headquarters of all the Italian right wing parties dropping off bags of money for “expenses” while the Italian newspapers were full of articles written by Agency-paid hacks warning of the dangers of communism. And this all went on clandestinely even though Italy was a democracy, an ally and NATO member.

Does that mean that Washington should do nothing in response? No, not at all. Russia, if the indictment is accurate, may have run an influencing operation and gotten caught with its hand in the cookie jar. Or maybe not. And Washington might also actually have information suggesting that Russia is preparing to engage in further interference in the 2018 and 2020 elections, as claimed by the heads of the intelligence agencies, though, as usual, evidence for the claim is lacking. There has to be bilateral, confidential discussion of such activity between Washington and Moscow and a warning given that such behavior will not be tolerated in the future, but only based on irrefutable, solid evidence. The leadership in both countries should be made to understand very clearly that there are more compelling reasons to maintain good bilateral working relations than not.

With that in mind, it is important not to overreact and to base any U.S. response on the actual damage that was inflicted. The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy by promoting “distrust” of government as well as sowing “discord” in the U.S. political system while also encouraging “divisiveness” among the American people. I would suggest in Russia’s defense that the U.S. political system is already doing a good job at self-destructing and the difficult-to-prove accusations being hurled at Moscow are the type one flings when there is not really anything important to say.

I would suggest that Moscow might well want to destroy American democracy but there is no evidence in the indictment to support that hypothesis. I particularly note that the document makes a number of assumptions which appear to be purely speculative for which it provides no evidence. It describes the Russian company Internet Research Agency as “engaged in operations to interfere with elections and political processes.” Its employees were involved in

“interference operations targeting the United States. From in or around 2014 to the present, Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit for the purpose of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.”

The theme of Russian subversion is repeated throughout the indictment without any compelling evidence to explain how Mueller knows what he asserts to be true, suggesting either that the document would have benefited from a good editor or that whoever drafted it was making things up. Internet Research Agency allegedly “conduct[ed] what it called ‘information warfare against the United States of America’ through fictitious U.S. personas on social media platforms and other Internet-based media.” The indictment goes on to assert that

“By in or around May 2014, the ORGANIZATION’s strategy included interfering with the 2016 U.S. presidential election, with the stated goal of ‘spread[ing] distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general’”

with a

“strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates, and by early to mid-2016, Defendants’ operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump (“Trump Campaign”) and disparaging Hillary Clinton. Defendants made various expenditures to carry out those activities, including buying political advertisements on social media in the name of U.S. persons and entities. Defendants also staged political rallies inside the United States, and while posing as U.S. grassroots entities and U.S. persons, and without revealing their Russian identities and ORGANIZATION affiliation, solicited and compensated real U.S. persons to promote or disparage candidates. Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.”

Two company associates

“traveled in and around the United States, including stops in Nevada, California, New Mexico, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, Louisiana, Texas, and New York to gather intelligence. After the trip, [they] exchanged an intelligence report regarding the trip. The conspiracy had as its object the opening of accounts under false names at U.S. financial institutions and a digital payments company in order to receive and send money into and out of the United States to support the ORGANIZATION’s operations in the United States and for self-enrichment. Defendants and their co-conspirators also used the accounts to receive money from real U.S. persons in exchange for posting promotions and advertisements on the ORGANIZATION-controlled social media pages. Defendants and their co-conspirators typically charged certain U.S. merchants and U.S. social media sites between 25 and 50 U.S. dollars per post for promotional content on their popular false U.S. persona accounts, including Being Patriotic, Defend the 2nd, and Blacktivist. All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1349.”

Note particularly the money laundering and for-profit aspects of the Internet Research scheme, something that would be eschewed if it were an actual intelligence operation. There is some speculation that it all might have been what is referred to as a click-bait commercial marketing scheme set up to make money from advertising fees. Also note how small the entire operation was. It focused on limited social media activity while spending an estimated $1 million on the entire venture, with Facebook admitting to a total of $100,000 in total ad buys, only half of which were before the election. It doesn’t smell like a major foreign government intelligence/influence initiative intended to “overthrow democracy.” And who attended the phony political rallies? How many votes did the whole thing cause to change? Impossible to know, but given a campaign in which billions were spent and both fake and real news were flying in all directions, one would have to assume that the Russian effort was largely a waste of time if it indeed was even as described or serious in the first place.

And apart from the money laundering aspect of the alleged campaign was it even illegal apart from the allegations of possible visa fraud and money laundering? If the Russians involved were getting their financial support from the Moscow government then it would be necessary to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) of 1938, but if not, they would be protected by the Constitution and have the same First Amendment right to express their opinions of Hillary Clinton on blogs and websites while also associating with others politically as do all other residents of the United States. Many of the commenters on this Unz site are foreign and are not required either by law or custom to state where they come from.

And, of course, there is one other thing. There always is. One major media outlet is already suggesting that there could be consequences for American citizens who wittingly or unwittingly helped the Russians, identified in the indictment as “persons known and unknown.” A former federal prosecutor put it another way, saying “While they went to great pains to say they are not indicting any Americans today, if I was an American and I did cooperate with Russians I would be extremely frightened…” Politico speculates that “Now, a legal framework exists for criminal charges against Americans…” and cites a former U.S. district attorney’s observation that “Think of a conspiracy indicting parties known and unknown’ as a Matroyshka doll. There are many more layers to be successively revealed over time.”

Under normal circumstances, an American citizen colluding with a foreign country would have to be convicted of engaging in an illegal conspiracy, which would require being aware that the foreigners were involved in criminal behavior and knowingly aiding them. But today’s overheated atmosphere in Washington is anything but normal. Russia’s two major media outlets that operate in the U.S., Sputnik and RT America, have been forced to register under FARA. Does that mean that the hundreds of American citizens who appeared on their programs prior to the 2016 election to talk about national politics will be next in line for punishment? Stay tuned.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is inform@cnionline.org.

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michael bruce

In Canada we have an idiot for a leader who was obviously helped by huge foreign donations and logistical support from Soros and the Obama administration.

You can call me Al

As a Brit, like many Brits, we used to love and dream of going to Canada o visit or even live, but JC, now that dream would be a nightmare. What the hell happened in he last decade or so ?; and how did you become a US – Globalist puppet ?.

PS The same can be said of my beloved UK.

Orcbuu

Its Illegal to disagree or refuse the change of the gender from your 3 year old child. If it wants to be a Boy or Girl now(Opposite of what it is born). If you do not start Treatment of your child to have the opposite sex, the child will be taken away or you(Parent) will get punishment! Thats the First world people ALWAYS wanted to live in!!! Oh and dont forget Samantha(ABORTION RIGHTS NOW)<==This one. Who wants them all to be aborted anyway, kind regards from canada samantha, i guess :=) Pretty sure she is one of this degenarates.

FlorianGeyer

In Britain we now have a Defence Minister who is being supported by a Ukranian businessman who is a big donor to the Tory Party.

We are all living in La La land in the EU.

EoF

Russia can’t the destroy american democracy because america isn’t a democracy in the first place.

TiredOfBsToo

“The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy..”

A fiction and as usual when fiction is stated, no evidence or proof just rhetoric by the most untrustworthy humans you’re ever to run across.

“Russia can’t the destroy american democracy..”

True because it was destroyed a long time ago by psychopaths and profiteers! As for the CIA, it acts as it’s own government with anyone who attempts to enact restraints upon or control it ether disappearing or being assassinated. Don’t believe me, read “The Devil’s Chessboard” by David Tallbot; a partial history of the CIA.

Amanda Adams

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FlorianGeyer

The US has become a prescription drug induced ‘Ideocracy ‘.

zman

Pretty much.

Merijn

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/02/02/new-world-order-agents-lie-about-syria-again/

jerry hamilton

Shhh… Don’t tell them that. They are killing people all over the world in the name of Democracy

Barba_Papa

Just like with Whitewater the circus continues until the Blonde One leaves office. Then it will be dropped in an instant.

FlorianGeyer

The worrying thing is that the majority of Americans who believe this shit will have a ‘ What the —- ‘ moment as they are consumed by a fireball if this nonsense is not stopped.

Pave Way IV

The American Zionist Council was forced to register as an Israeli foreign agent in the US back in 1962 after they were caught, red-handed, laundering and funneling Israeli government funds to US lobbying efforts. Ignoring the tiresome goy law, AZC instead spun off its public relations and lobbying arm into a separate corporation – the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). Instead of calling them out on this cheap-assed trick, the US Justice Department guaranteed AIPAC that it would be protected and never be obligated to register as a Israeli foreign agent, per the US Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938. As a side benefit, they could claim exemption from US taxes as a non-profit.

AIPAC is mostly about lobbying and PR, but acts aggressively and with impunity to influence US elections. It does not contribute money directly to political campaigns, but acts as a middle-man, hooking up wealthy Israeli-firster US donors to political candidates. It also ‘finds’ donors for political hit operations to smear politicians who are not slavishly obedient to Israeli interests.

We just spent-tens-of-millions accusing ‘Putin’s chef’ – a known scammer of Russian government funds – and his amateurish ‘Destroy US democracy through Facebook and social media’ campaign. Most of that is probably based on manufactured fake evidence planted by the Humpty-Dumpty hackers, setting the Russian troll op as a patsy for later accusations. Kind of like an insurance policy. Now who would do that?

HighLord Gaz

Funny how the antics of Shaltay-Boltay don’t seem to be part of the Murican narrative?… I guess its just easier to stay on message and not confuse the small-minded average street Seppo with too much information, it could lead to an outbreak of thinking…

alejoeisabel

Irony and hypocrisy and dishonesty and nothing more.

1691

This american soapie is so boring.

Tudor Miron

Are they even serious? :) what a farse!

HighLord Gaz

Yes, when lacking in evidence and unable to prove a contention the US elite wants established in the minds of its plebians, the standard operating practise is to lie, fabricate, embellish, exaggerate, deceive…

zman

Yes, they are serious. Highlord nailed it perfectly. SOP.

velociraptor

well, nyam, nyam, nyam …

https://cf-e2.streamablevideo.com/video/mp4/o3jb6_2.mp4?token=1519145145-PZ7Ec23DPKbtb6%2F21iXHTFBZs6gfw2U02zwERc6ucNc%3D

FlorianGeyer

Go away idiot.

velociraptor

you are stupid cock

FlorianGeyer

Are you Jewish ?

velociraptor

Also this question shows, how ugly are sou, SS-florian-geyer!

Btw. you idiot, i put here this cia monkey as an example of yankee arrogance.

FlorianGeyer

Florian Geyer was a Teutonic Knight who supported the Peasants Revolt during the Middle Ages period .

Are you a Jew ?

velociraptor

for me florian geyer =

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8th_SS_Cavalry_Division_Florian_Geyer

Okey, i accept your argue.

I need o help.

Can you give me russian online adress, where i can buy original russian films? e.g. pervy posle biga. and others. nicie soviet/russian sci-fi movies. in DVD, better blue ray quality.

p.s. i am not jew, and dont like IL.

HighLord Gaz

What utter shit…

Private Russian citizens working for a shady NGO using faked social media accounts indulging in political activism and funding their activities partly by click-bait adverts…

as compared to….

Private US citizens working for a shady NGO using faked social media accounts indulging in political activism and funding their activities partly by click-bait adverts…

Nothing to see, move on…. /yawn

Mueller must be one desperate SOB if he thinks this is remotely useful to proving “collusion”. The US has circling to the toilet bowl at ever-increasing speed for some time now, but lately is now developing a downwards trajectory…

chris chuba

The ‘speculation’ that it was just a standard clickbait marketing scheme is far more convincing than Mueller’s indictment http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/mueller-indictement-the-russian-influence-is-a-commercial-marketing-scheme.html

For me, the biggest ‘tell’ in Mueller’s indictment is that it is so detailed in the part where he tries to prove that it is an espionage operation but when he gets to the part where the FBI actually does have expertise, bank and paypal accounts, he is totally silent about how much money the Russians made on the venture. It’s as if he wants to downplay the bank fraud because he knows it would undermine his espionage theater.

Stooges like Christopher Dodd wouldn’t dream of asking, ‘how much money was transferred to St. Petersburg’ because that is what a real journalist would do. Instead he tweeted, ‘how are we going to punish the Russians’. The U.S. is lost. We have stooges in the MSM and our govt knows they can lie at will.

Samantha Green

Abortion banning Saudis are 100 times more meddlesome than abortion rights respecting Russians, with their Council of Foreign Relations!

MeMadMax

What wasn’t mentioned is that these russians where supporting AND attacking both hillary and trump…

michaelweddle

Read this letter from Putin to Mueller–lol! https://www.facebook.com/notes/michael-weddle/re-13-russian-indictments-letter-from-putin-to-mueller/1602044179880424/

velociraptor

fake

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