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Russians Withdrew From Krasniy Lyman. Kiev’s Forces Captured First Russian Town

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Russians Withdrew From Krasniy Lyman. Kiev’s Forces Captured First Russian Town

Kiev’s troops near Krasniy Lyman

As of the afternoon of October 1, Russian forces withdrew from the town of Krasniy Lyman of the Donetsk People’s Republic of Russia. Now, the fighting continues around the town, on the Zarechnoe-Torskoe-Dibrova line.

After the heroic defense of the town, warriors of the Lugansk People’s Republic and the BARS volunteer formation had to retreat to the defense line east of it in order to avoid the encirclement. LPR and BARS units were able to contain the advance of the overwhelming forces of the Kiev regime in the area for a long time and became an integral part of the Russian efforts to prevent the further development of the crisis in the sector. However, according to reports, the defense of the town of Krasniy Lyman became not possible after the withdrawal of regular units of the Russian Armed Forces from the countryside of the town. Actions on the Russian military command in this area is being publicly criticized in Russian patriotic media.

While, as it was noted earlier, the retreat from Krasniy Lyman was expected, it is still a signal of the actual situation on the frontline in this area in the conditions of the lack of manpower and not always optimal decisions of the Russian command.

As of the afternoon of October 1, the Russian command in the this direction is still unable to fully contain the operational crisis and events in this sector are developing according to a negative scenario.

If the situation evolves without changes, the area of Krasniy Lyman may be completely lost in the next 1-3 days, and the ability of the Russian troops and command to ensure the stabilization of the front in the Kremennaya area will become the next question.

Torskoye and Kremennaya will be the main points of clashes while nearby villages of Drobyshevo and Yampol are already captured by Kiev’s forces.

The current retreat from Krasniy Lyman is a logical consequence of the setbacks Balakleya and Izum. In particular, after the withdrawal from Izyum, the Russian military command was not able to completely stabilize the front on Oskol, which led to the advance of the Ukrainain Armed Forces through Redkodub.

On top of this, Krasniy Lyman became the first Russian town captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The town, an official part of Russia, was left to the advancing enemy force and will have to be recaptured once again when the Russian Armed Forces finally stop the Kiev attack there and resume own offensive operations.

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Iron Zion 🦾🇮🇱

In Israel we have a saying, if terror run, you know terror is losing. Our brothers make them run and hide. Cowards

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SureWhatever

Man, are you an idiot. These fools have lost thousands of troops and their equipment. They’re virtually broke. How long do you think they can keep this up?

Vlad

By the ammount of equipment the Russians abandon to them and the no. of soldiers of fortune the West supplies, they can keep up to Vladivostok… Who knows, maybe they will cross the Bering and take Washington and Quebec, too 😀.

rex

the equipment they show is always ukrop one

there are never Z, V or O markings

they are even showing their own deads, saying those are russians

War

They thinks peoples around the world are stupid .

marks the spot

Mentally ill Ukrops use a cross. Not sure if they want to give the Russians a nice target on purpose or it’s meant to mark their future resting places.

I remember some Texas lady years back that wrote in her will that she be buried with her cadillac. Being buried in a tank does her one better.

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Rasputin

This fragment of copium put forth by Rex, is perfect example of one of Russias problems. We make stuff up to fit in with ruski mir world view and to not damage ego, please superiors etc. By being so delusional and ill informed how can timely and proper decisions be made by politicians or commanders?

Rex do you think Russian army giving ground without taking casualties? Do you think your statement based on nothing more then hopes and dreams helps?

For a dose of sad reality visit: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com or 200rf.com

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pens holm

when you see someone using dumb meme words like copium you know he’s a complete retard so no need to read his bs

Sunny

Hey Rasputin, I’m interested in the truth, but do you have a link to something that isn’t a propaganda website tho? That website discredited itself when it started using images from video games, syria, and the ukraine war in 2014.

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shithitsfan

The truth is almost impossible to find in this day and age. Up is down, left is right, black is white, men are women, good is bad, water is a scarce resource on a planet 70% covered in water.

If you want to understand the purpose of all these lies read or re read 1984 ( Orwell ). It’s not enough to say 2+2 =5 you have to believe it.

Lord Humungus

Oryx??? They are a joke. Totally discredited and so are you by quoted them.

HB_norica

How long? As long as the magic printing press at federal reserve has a supply of grumpy pixies to keep it running. Once the world stops believing in the grumpy pixies then the magic printing press stops spitting out USD.

M from Romania

and who do you think runs out of stuff first? russia of soldiers or USA of paper and ink ?

Vlad from Romania

No need of paper and ink, most part of their money are just no. in accounts. If all those mercenaries would ask for cash, there is not enough for 1% of them. Let alone the hundreds of billions spent on weapons and gear ….

Clyde

It’s not ink, dummy. They QE dollars that had to refloat the banks beginning in 2019 are simply entries on a keyboard. But who will run out of soldiers first, the Ukrotards or the Russians? The US unipolar moment is over. The question is, will they be able to take down the Russians and keep the Germans down, while staving off the Chinese who have no interest whatsoever in living in the US imperium of the last eighty years?

HB_norica

You think I have a crystal ball or something … how the fuck would I know?

Johny cash

Your the type of fool to make up excuses even if putin willingly gave moscow away u pathetic shit, go and develop some critical thinking u lil lapdog

Loki

Stupid piece of shit, how many moronic nicks you need to repeat the same moronic crap?

Darren McPhilimy

Dude doesn’t even know how to spell Johnny Cash. And he doesn’t know how to walk the line either.

M from Romania

SINCE they are winning, it seems they can keep it up longer than the russians, that also lost thousand of troops and equipment and do not have reserves, or they would not lose otherwise.

Darren McPhilimy

Just a few more annexations by Russia and the Nazis will achieve final victory.

Slaves o’ Ukraine! That’s the saying, isn’t it?

War

Loss thousand are Ukraine and Nato side because their human wave cannon fodder tactics.Their purposes is uses Ukraine men as cannon fodder until Russia depletes of their ammunition at the front line

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Censors KEEP OUT

I’ve been discussing this scenario for months where the bear was only unmindful toying with its wounded prey, now what happened was unthinkable where its prey regained some strength and started biting the bear’s ass running away from its habitat that it declared their own just yesterday. What a humiliation.

Censors KEEP OUT

SF finds my comment so embarrassing for RF forces so it was deleted, what F…. loser. It’s adopting msm way of democracy.

Censors KEEP OUT

Cdf

jens holm

fctsdw

Lord Humungus

Who knows? I didn’t think Ukraine was capable of this, did you? No one that I know did. Losses don’t make any difference to them. They seems to have an endless amount of troops and equipment.

Here is what I do know. Russia left a force of only 500 men to defend Liman. Liman is an important down. Don’t let anyone tell you differently. If 500 men is the most that Russia can muster to defend a key town, then they are in trouble.

none

Have you ever thought that the AFU are now comprised of many NATO troops dressed in AFU clothing?

Vanya

Don’t bomb the bridges, don’t blowup the rail lines, all the Western aide and reserve soldiers must reach the front, or the oligarchs will be upset.

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SureWhatever

You mean the Black Marketeers will be upset if they don’t get stock?

Sunny

Yep we can’t really speak of war if Russia refuses to destroy ANY critical infrastructure.

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Zolli

It Is curious as to Why Russia deliberately refuses to destroy any infrastructure. Nothing of importance whatsoever.

rex

it is even more curious why they continue to leave the north east alone

this time they left 600-900 soldiers in Lyman

this is deliberate, there is nothing more to talk about, even though the ukronazi fans like to dream of their “invicible armada” grinding millions of russians

the reality is that the russians aren’t even fighting in those areas

why is the real question that needs an answer

Carlo

Kadyrov gave you the answer. Read my comment below

I'm too from Romania

Exactly what I wrote moments ago here. Read it. It explains perfectly what’s happening.

Russian

Whenever we lose, we were not fighting!

Antitrol

Shit troll you are not “Russian”, you are the same moron with 10000 gay nicks : cash, holm jen, eric, joe, cop +1000 more, half of comments here are your garbage and you talking with yourself. You mentally sick deranged degenerate.

Clyde

That pretty much sums it up. Vast areas that would be impossible for the Russians to defend without hundreds of thousands of troops have been abandoned after delaying actions. What these actions have cost the armed forces of the failed Ukrainian CIA project remains to be seen.

HB_norica

That’s been Russia’s point all along. The western media runs around calling this a war and harping on about “the russian playbook” while Russia insists it’s a “special military operation”.

The “war” is between the LPR / DPR and the Ukrainians, with the Russian military in a supporting role a la the Americans during the early part of the Vietnam war. Russia also has a mandate to ‘demilitarize” and “denazify” Ukraine however the ROE of the SMO doesn’t allow for attacks on the civilian infastructure.

As of yesterday the LPR / DPR is part of Russia and a Russian town was just occupied by Ukrainians. NOW they can legally bomb the crap out of anything in Ukraine for any reason without a formal declaration of war because Russian land is occupied.

I know were all used to seeing the USA do whatever the fuck they like with their military but the US people voluntarily gave up their right to control the military in 2001 with the Patriot act. Russians still control their military … not Putin. The Duma decides how, when and where the Russian military is used and they are constrained by the Russian constitution.

I don’t have a crystal ball but I get a feeling this war is going to escalate very seriously and Ukrainians aren’t going to enjoy it.

Carlo

The Ukrainian parliament is still intact and the comedian takes selfies. Not to mention the telecommunication and television networks still standing to spread courage to the Nazis and complete the Westerner brainwashing…

Carlo

Certainly something is wrong with the Russian command HQ. Here the Kadyrov speech:

I have always said: there is nothing better than the voiced truth, albeit bitter, offensive, but the truth. This is the only way to move forward. Therefore, I cannot remain silent about what happened in Krasny Liman.

The defense of this section was led by the commander of the Central Military District, Colonel-General Alexander Lapin. The same Lapin, who received the star of the Hero of Russia for the capture of Lisichansk, although de facto he was not there and was not around. Lapin was also given over to the troops of the Western Military District.

The colonel-general deployed mobilized fighters from the LPR and other units on all frontiers of the Liman direction, but did not provide them with the necessary communications, interaction and the supply of ammunition. Two weeks ago, Major General Commander of the Akhmat Special Forces, my dear BROTHER Apty Alaudinov, personally reported to me that our fighters could become an easy target. In turn, I informed Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, about the danger. But the general assured me that he had no doubts about Lapin’s leadership talent and did not believe that a retreat was possible in Krasny Liman and its environs.

A week later, Lapin moves his headquarters to Starobelsk, a hundred kilometers from his subordinates, while he himself sits in Lugansk. How can you quickly manage units, being 150 km away from them? Due to the lack of elementary military logistics, today we have left several settlements and a large piece of territory.

It’s not a shame that Lapin is mediocre. And the fact that he is covered at the top by the leaders in the General Staff. If I had my way, I would have demoted Lapin to the rank of private, would have deprived him of his awards and, with a machine gun in his hands, would have sent him to the front lines to wash away my shame with blood.

Army nepotism will not lead to good. In the army, it is necessary to appoint people of a strong character, courageous, principled, who worry about their fighters, who tear their teeth for their soldier, who know that a subordinate cannot be left without help and support. There is no place for nepotism in the army, especially in difficult times.

Vanya

Kadyrov is the only one that makes any sense the rest of the Kremlin is somewhere in La La Land.

Marius

And Igor Girkin. He said mobilization is needed in March. Hell, I said the same even before him, it was obvious even in February: mobilize 200k in march/april, another 200k in may/june. If you win the war meanwhile you can easily demobilize them. But waiting for something (delusional diplomatic solution?) is criminal. Imagine if Russia had 400k additional troops 4-5 months ago… imagine if they destroyed bridges over Dniepr and electrical grid. imagine if they completely destroyed Ukr air defense so they could freely use air force for interdiction all over the country. Imagine if they actually have any idea to fight the war.

Edgar Zetar

If what you said is truth… this Lapin is a mope and if the General Staff are protecting Lapin they are traitors protecting a Mope…

Che Habana

Kadyrov is right! I’m really surprised that Putin and the Russian elites cannot get it together. Is there CIA infiltration causing these disturbances?

We had a civil war in America once. The Union (Northern states) were having many problems the first 2 years. Eventually, Lincoln found decent general (General Grant and others) to beat the Confederates (Southern states) and win the Civil War.

Putin is going to have to look for some good people or this war is over and him too. Possibly Russia as well. The West (America and England specifically, but don’t discount others) will happily take a carving knife to Russia and that will be the end of Russia.

Wake up people. Too much silly talk here!

I'm too from Romania

Pamfil Military Academy spoke about all of this from march 2022. We were right down to the bones. Putin better to change all russian HQ staff with Pamfil Military Academy, and Russia will win in no more than 10 months ahead.

Afterthought

Too late, Russia needs China.

Marius

I remember back in late February I quoted the best Russian general of all time, Suvorov: “One minute decides the outcome of a battle, one hour the success of a campaign, one day the fate of empires.”

Kremlin wasted months on ‘special operation’ doing nothing while Ukro/nato reorganized, re-armed and retrained their army. They still do: there are another 10k in UK right now trained by NATO instructors for urban combat, and another group in Poland, and another in Ukraine ofc. Soon they will receive modern tanks, perhaps even long range tactical missiles, US combat drones… next spring AFU will be even better trained and equipped. If Russians want to win this war, or at least not to lose this war, they must change something and they must change it fast. Time is against Russia here, something that Kremlin fail to realize. btw I don’t see problem with Russian soldiers, it’s the leadership from Putin to generals.

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Sunny

You seem to think you are some kind of military genius. Obviously the Russian military knows what they are up against, but they are clearly ordered to allow this war to continue. The reason? Well, we know of at least one with 100% certainty. As the global elites have been saying for decades now, they want to cut off the west from fuel, now they have. The mission has already been accomplished.

Medved

The problem is that Putin is not the monster that the western press paints him to be. He has been doggedly pursuing a negotiated solution for eight years to avoid bloodshed and increased sanctions. Even when he finally gave up on implementation of the Minsk agreements and started the SMO he still kept up working for a peaceful settlement. Hindsight is 20/20 but if he had started a full scale invasion years ago a lot less civilians would have been ethnically cleansed, and Ukraine would have been much easier to defeat before NATO had put in so much training and equipment to build them up.

I'm too from Romania

All russian army HQ staff must be executed, first with Shoigu. Stalin would have done that in the second nr.1.

Carlo

Tactical nuclear bombs finally in action 8-)

https://t.me/azmilitary11/23057

I'm too from Romania

We can’t open the link.

Carlo

Copy and paste it!

RealityOfWar

Whilst this is definitely a set-back for Russia in political terms – it’s looking weak to locals who will be very frightened to embrace Russian liberation, fearing a reversal and being abandoned. However, in Military terms the only leaking boarder is around this area, an area very close to Russian borders on multiple sides thus offering an easy option for Russian escalation and reversal and a difficult prospect for Ukraine Nazis to defend and supply at Range. Indeed, Russia seems to be pushing ahead further to the east and almost encouraging a Donetsk wide cauldron to be set up to grind down Ukrainian Nazis close to Russian clutches.

Che Habana

This is stupid from Russia. Bomb the supply lines. Disrupt this! Instead, you see pictures of weapons going to the front. Maybe Putin and his generals should invite Ukraine for dinner at the Kremlin.

I don’t who in Russia is running this show (Shoigu?), but they need to be replaced. This is a tragedy that these Russian soldiers do not have a true general(s) to lead them to victory. Russians have air superiority. The whole of Ukraine should be bombed including all supply lines and structures that assist the enemy including utilities. Time to be ruthless like the Americans and destroy and kill. This is war.

Lord Humungus

And keep shipping gas to Europe. Even though they have already blown up your pipelines. Keep shipping gas to your enemies which are arming Ukraine.

Cromwell

Its clear the Russians had nowhere near enough forces for the operation,but thats history,question now is what are they going to do about it? i believe we will know in the folling days,looks to me the DPR fighters in that town were just a rear guard not really a force to hold the town.

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Vanya

They are going to hope to hold some kind of line and get a cease fire, but I just think they are going to just keep losing, no army can hope to win with Putin’s ridiculous humanitarian strategies that won’t allow infrastructure to be destroyed.

Carlo

He is about to make his last biggest mistake, to reopen the front north of Kiev. He will lose all 300,000 conscripts then the Comedian and Mr. Forgetful will take the selfie on the Red Square!

I'm too from Romania

I told many times: Putin is not good to wage wars. And the worst, he eliminated all the real good leaders who knew how to destroy NATO inside ukropizdan.

Russian

Only option left for Russia is accept defeat and sign surrender deal.

RealityOfWar

Russia is now facing a problem – it’s promised that all these areas are protected to the maximum by Russia as part of the Russian federation – all weapons and means will be used to protect them. Therefore, if Russia does not strike back very hard, it will send the message that any Russian border is fair game for military adventurism – that Russia will simply retreat and do little about it! So, it matters immensely what Russia does next! If it fails to strike hard, it’s power projection will be severely diminished – it will look like it’s been tested and unable to answer. Most believed that these regions joining Russia would signal the gloves coming off for Russia’s actions. If they stay on that could be a mistake that further emboldens not only Ukraine, but the wider west in general. Time for the bear to show some teach, otherwise its opponents will think it doesn’t have any!

Exterminate the Western Satans

Exactly. He even made it much worse by accepting these regions into Russia if he doesn’t answer now. And that is: full mobilization and/or nuclear. I’d advice nuclear and mobilization of 1 million men, at least 50% or whatever they see fit for a war economy. With the American-Polnish-Ukrainian attack on the German Nordstream 1 and 2 pipelines they also gave the following message: Russia, as we know it, will never come back to the table with the West. That’s the message. Full destruction of the Russia we know is the American-Cabalist goal. So I’d start with 3-10 tactical nukes into the countryside, at least some of them should detonate in Western Ukraine. Together with a strong ultimatum: 12-24h for full surrender of Zelensky-Cabalist. If he does not surrender or the West tries anything, strategic hydrogen bomb on a big city, preferably Kiev. Pan-Slavism is a mirage just like Pan-Germanism. The Ukros – it’s a made-up, mixed fake nation anyway – only understand force. Stalin knew it, Hitler knew it, they themselves know it and proudly demand to be beating into submission. Hard. Nuclear. If Putin doesn’t throw a few bombs – and more than bare minimum – he is physically a dead man and Russia dies with him. They’ll make the Gaddafi, Saddam or Geronimo out of him, as they always do with their victims. It usually involves a degrading death, mutilation of the corpse supposedly for “Western enligthenment” or science by an anatomist, burning of the corpse and desecration of the ashes. The ashes of Adolf Eichmann was not put into the sea, as the Israelis claim, but according to the German ambassador to Israel of that time and as well as the Jewish philosopher Hannah Arendt, wo was present at his execution, the ashes was at least in part held back and according to Chassidic Jewish rituals the ashes of their enemies is sometimes used to create certain artifacts of power within “cabala ma’asit”, or practical kabbalah, Jewish occultism. Russia will desintegrate into 25 pieces and there will be wars for 50 years, all the while the West will prostitute Russian women and children, steal ressources and kill Russian men, while also preparing to attack more non-Western countries like India and China, and re-enslave Africa – in the name of “multi-lateral humanitarianism” of course.

Therefore: President Putin, what’s done is done. You now have to go all in. Whatever the price with China or India, it has to be done. It is now destiny.

Che Habana

They will have to mobilize the whole country. Those young people neglecting their duty should lose all citizenship to Russia and those resisting and caught should be sent to Siberian work camps.

This is life or death of the country!!! C’mon people!

Putin is stupid. He should get a FULL MOBILIZATION. Everyone work together. You stupid Russians looking to vacation in foreign countries, instead vacation in your own country and keep the money inside! I will tell you the biggest enemy of Slavic people is Slavic people. They think they know everything and cannot work together. Instead, they bicker like women and have no common sense. Stupid Slav’s. Shame!!!

I'm too from Romania

Man, you just earned the second Pamfil Military Academy for that day. Congratulations. Superb statement. Right and true down to the bones.

Hans rauss NAFO

,,russian town” just give me a break :D Lyman is ukraine, just like crimea.

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Cop

Run, Russians, run!

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SureWhatever

Stupidity runs in your family?

Daniel

Do you know his/her family?

Hunter Biden

I know his mother. Total slut just like him.

Cop

From Ukraine to mother Russia.

Nethanyahu's brother

there are 150 aircraft heading towards krasny liman

Zolli

Bullshit

Dave

What, despite all the reports things were looking good for Russia in K.L.? I thought wars were won online.

On a more serious note; a tactical retreat is not a terrible thing. Especially when massively outnumbered. Glad to see SF acknowledge that even a heroic defense cannot stand against overwhelming numbers. Note also, that being able to do tactical retreats actually changed the equation on the battlefield in Russia in WW 2. German advances by the time typically resulted in enormous Russian casualties and captured Russian soldiers until the Soviet leadership saw wisdom and managed orderly retreats. That allowed them to consolidate, lose less men and effectively counter-attack. I’m sure we’ll see meaningful counter-attacks by Russia very soon.

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Carlo

Counter-attack? LoL. United Snakes is recruiting thousands of veteran mercenaries of the Gulf War and Afghanistan, the same thing is happening in all other countries under the influence of the United States: mercenaries from Africa, Asia, the Middle East, Germany, Italy, France, Spain , Romania, England and so on … we are talking about at least a force of 100,000 crazy (and well paid) PMC militiamen!

rex

and this is the problem, they are going bankrupt!!

100.000 is a logistic nightmare, plus they need to send the weapons

costs over costs over costs

this is how the USSR defaulted

Carlo

United Snakes can print paper money at will

I'm too from Romania

Correct. The stupid russian intel showed us the imbecile list with the numbers of the mercenaries and the total was no more than 20.000 summed. Instead the real numbers Pamfil Military Academy say is around 80.000-120.000. Only from Poland they had a full strength division.

Lord Humungus

Problem is that Ukraine is not stopping at Liman. Is Russia going to tactically retreat until they are driven out of Ukraine?

I expected that after the territories were accepted into Russia and Ukraine did not stand down that we would have seen an all out blitz on Ukraine. Instead we got nothing. So I am at a loss. Russia is still in “Special Military Operation” mode. Nothing has changed. They will lose this war unless they change.

Vlad

Maybe Moscow and Petersburg will follow… Zelinsky taking a bath in the Bering to cool down after the crack?

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John

Putin will have to go now. A real hardliner will take his place.

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I'm too from Romania

I wish that.

Carlo

Russia can only save face if Putin starts a new Great Purge by removing all incompetent and corrupt generals

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Vanya

It is Putin who is the cause of the incompetence. It is Putin’s “professional managers” who gave these generals their positions (only Yes men are allowed to apply). It is Putin who talks the talk but always fails to walk the walk.

anon

Putin like Groper joe is a judas goat leading his people to ruin (and europe).. the only man left standing after the dust settles on all this nonsense will be China…just as the ((internationalists)) planned (favoured nation)…

and who will stop them?…

I'm too from Romania

And it is Putin who eliminated ALL the best patriots and competent leaders, from Givi, Motorola, Zachkarchenko, etc, etc to Jirinovsky.

Lord Humungus

Yes and had Alexander Lebed killed. Sort of reminds one of how Stalin liquidated all this top Generals because he feared them and then found out he had problem when Germany invaded as he had no competent commanders.

Eric

So like 90% of his team?

I'm too from Romania

Exactly. Shoigu first but I highly doubt.

Lord Humungus

Is it correct. Shoigu has no military experience at all?

USA #1 sore loser

Brave defenders can be proud of every Nazi and NATO pig they killed. The Nazis won a battle at very high cost, but they will not prevail.

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Bobo

The nest 3 months in Ukraine will essentially be a quagmire the weather will dictate the course of events until the ground freezes over and it is possible to reinforced these areas so any apparent gain by Kiev will be short lived. And any military presence in these areas will be sapped of moral by the end of winter

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Brutal

How the hell are these ukrops going to sit in soggy trenches under freezing rains without dying on the vine?

The Ogs

Retreats and withdrawals have always been part of the tactical battlefield and clinging to outmaneuvered territory is of course ill-advised. That said, it’s really unfortunate for all the locals in the area who will then be ruthlessly challenged for “collaboration” and arrested (or worse). Personally I had expected that the Ukie onslaught would have been perceived by Mr. Shoigu as a mobile force exposing and revealing itself, and subject to attack..? But no. I was waiting for air assault, long range targeting, cruise missiles, MiG 31s etc… But no. The Russians apparently have a bigger picture in mind and are not able to linger and protect Lyman at this time. Tells me that things are going to change bigly in the next ~72 hours. Got my popcorn (and my Bible).

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Vanya

Shoigu is nothing more than a book keeper and PR man who can only organize trade fairs and tank biathlons. He has no military experience to justify his position. Any teenager who plays wargames has more of an idea what to do.

helen

Sorry to disappoint you, but the Russians don’t have a bigger picture in mind. If they did, they’d have calculated properly and sent a bigger army in February in order to capture the South and make Ukraine a landlocked country. Not to mention they’d have actually sent the army in 2014, when it’d have been an easy game to take on the Ukrainian Army and when the Ukrainian society would have had 8 years less of American brainwashing.

Z for Victory

Just curious: how many defenders had K.L.? How many attackers were from Ukcronazi? How many losses had both the sides in men and materials?

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Carlo

Very likely Liman before the encirclement: 5000 men (Russian guard, LPR militia, Wagner) Liman, after the encirclement: 2000 captured, 2000 dead and wounded, 1000 withdrawn

rex

2000 dead? where are these numbers coming from?

Walstat

It’ is quite clear that Russia is losing the war at this point. In less than a month, the Ukrainians aided by NATO have retaken the Kharkov oblast and have already reached Liman. Western weapons in the medium term have made the difference. Russia’s choice not to hit Ukraine’s key infrastructure was stupid. Referendum or not now, I don’t see how Ukraine, supported by increasingly powerful weaponry, cannot retake Lugansk or Kherson.

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TomB

unfortunately, russia’s military is a total disappointment, from the government to the general staff to the local commanders. and the convocation of the 300,000 resrevists comes 8 months too late. if russia were to go in with 500,000 men from the beginning, the whole donbas incl. oderssa now would be freed and the whole thing settled.

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Walstat

The truth is that Russia should have destroyed all the infrastructure in western Ukraine first. This war is a farce

rex

and have lost tens of thousands of soldiers + mercs, all the while they haven’t advanced an inch in the south

Fee Fi Fo Fum

That’s because no westerner promised to not advance an inch closer to Russia this time.

Sephiroth

All Russia can do now is to remind everyone that they have nukes.

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Sephiroth

No worries, folks. Russia hasn’t started anything yet — president putin

Miki Miric

Putine mjenjaj te nesposobne majmune oko sebe,samo te lažu,postavi mlade i odlučne oficire,a ovim majmunima daj ordenje i mars iz Ruske armije

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Hans rauss NAFO

Russian child rapists losers haahahahahahahahahahahhaha

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kotromanic

I am starting to get the idea that russias reinforcements are as virtuel as Bani Walid’s Tribal Army that Lybia supporters imagined years ago to appear out of the desert and win the day. Blogs who mentioned them have since gone dark cause they destroyed their own credibility.

Russia is failing so hard that the US is confident enough that they blow up north stream, starting another attempt of a color revolution in Iran and put sanctions on chinese companys who sold iranian oil.

So either russia is deliberatly playing weak to get whatever result (lure Poland to enter the war or push china do finally do something) or they absolutly are in this over their heads. They have the men and the equipment but lack the motivation and the coordination.

If china does not wake up this blunder will cement the US dominance in the world for decades to come. Their dominance over europe is already absolute. The only chance for any development in the EU after the destruction of north stream is subservience to the US and their order to poland and ukraine to let gas through their pipes.

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Clyde

US dominance ended in 2009. The issue to be decided is how long it takes for their imperium to be reduced to the Americas.

Zolli

Don’t they have military academies in Russia?

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Name

It’s better to withdraw from an indefensible position than to go full Hitler-Zelensky and get your forces encircled.

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TomB

true, but a big shame that the paper tiger second strongest army in the world must retreat since weeks theyr positions again and again.

Clyde

Less praying at your Bandera shrine, and more effort in your English classes, Ihor.

TomB

unfortunately, russia’s military is a total disappointment, from the government over the general staff to the local commanders. and the convocation of the 300,000 reservists comes 8 months too late. if russia were to go in with 500,000 men from the beginning, the whole donbas incl. oderssa now would be freed and the whole thing settled.

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Slobodan

This is mostly LPR, volunteers and similar. Very little of the actual Russian Army.

TomB

if this is true, than WHAT is russia waiting for fcking 8 months?!!!

Putin is a genius

I warned you three weeks ago but you rather censor my comments then take them serious.

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I'm too from Romania

Pamfil Military Academy warned from march. I challenge you all to read back my comments and statements: I was 90% right.

Putin is a genius

Watch the Russian Luhansk oblast. In a last ditch effort Russian reinforcements were sent to break the cauldron, these forces were blocked and probably suffered heavy losses.

The Saint

That’s information warfare. The troops were sent to cover the withdrawal, not to reinforce Lyman.

Eric

Is this the 2nd army in the world?🤣🤣

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