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Space Race 2.0: Russia And China To Create Joint Lunar Station

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According to reports from the Roscosmos, Russia and China signed a memorandum on the creation of an international scientific lunar station.

“Dmitry Rogozin, Director General of the Roscosmos State Corporation, and the Head of the Chinese National Space Administration, Mr. Zhang Kejian, via videoconference on March 9, 2021, signed a Memorandum of Understanding between the People’s Republic of China and the Government of the Russian Federation on cooperation in the creation of a scientific lunar station “, – reported by Roskosmos.

This memorandum implies the creation of a joint data center for lunar and deep space exploration. According to statements from 2019, the project includes the deployment of a space monitoring system for studying deep space with the prospect of international cooperation for providing the asteroid safety. Russia and China could create a joint operation system for the commercial spread of the results of high-precision remote sensing of the Earth.

“The Chinese have grown a lot in recent years, we respect their results, and in principle they are a worthy partner for us,” said the head of Roscosmos.

Space Race 2.0: Russia And China To Create Joint Lunar Station

Chinese flag on the Moon

Shortly before the signing of the memorandum, in January, Roscosmos announced the Russian withdrawal from the American lunar project Deep Space Gateway. Russia has decided to quit the program of a joint space station with the United States. The head of Roscosmos said that Russia could not participate in the project on American terms, as NASA’s lunar project was “an American project with limited participation of external partners.” Rogozin pointed out that the Russian side is not interested in this option, as from 2028, Moscow plans to start its own lunar program.

Russia and the United States agreed on the creation of a joint space station Deep Space Gateway in the Moon orbit in 2017. SpaceX, owned by Elon Musk, planned to launch modules into space in 2024 to assemble the first long-term circumlunar station. It was assumed that Russia would create 1-3 modules, as well as a unified docking mechanism for spacecraft that will fly to the station.

The fact that relations between Moscow and Washington in the space exploration are quite tense is evidenced by publications on Rogozin’s Twitter after the safe landing of the rover of NASA on Mars on February 18.

Space Race 2.0: Russia And China To Create Joint Lunar Station

1: Then they came; 2: The first thing that Americans saw on Mars

At the same time, the press secretary of the President of Russia, officially called the landing of the rover “the heritage of mankind,” Roscosmos congratulated NASA.

Meanwhile, the United States continues to develop its lunar program. The creation of the lunar station Gateway is part of the Artemis program, under which the United States plans to send a group of astronauts to the Moon. In September 2020, NASA presented its updated plan.

  • The first phase of the program, Artemis 1, was scheduled for 2021: an unmanned flight of the Orion spacecraft installed on the Space Launch System rocket around the Moon and its return to Earth.
  • Artemis 2 (scheduled for 2023): a ship with a crew on board would fly around the Moon.
  • Artemis 3: the Moon landing, scheduled for 2024.

However, the program was reportedly delayed due to cost overruns.

Space Race 2.0: Russia And China To Create Joint Lunar Station

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk talks to reporters and NASA personnel at Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Fla.

While the States start a race to the Earth’s satellite, SpaceX is launching tourist flights to the Moon.

SpaceX announced plans to launch a commercial flight around the Moon in early 2017. A year later, the head of the company, Elon Musk, announced that Japanese billionaire, Yusaku Maezawa, would be the first lunar tourist.

In 2018, Japanese entrepreneur, Yusaku Maezawa, announced the world’s first private passenger mission to fly by the Moon aboard Starship. Known as dearMoon, this mission is an important step toward enabling access for people who dream of traveling to space. Today, the dearMoon project opened the application process for eight civilians to join Yusaku Maezawa on the week-long Starship mission around the Moon in 2023.

Today’s confrontation between China and the United States is more and more resemblant to the period of the Cold War. Space is becoming one of the main fields of their rivalry. As on Earth, there is a division into partners and adversaries. Nevertheless, it was exactly the confrontation between the two centers of power that had already led to a spike in the development of human capabilities, and to a certain extent it served as a stimulus to enter the open space. One hopes that Man who already has experience of the Cold War will be able to use the new system parameters and apply them to the progress of a mankind, for which it is necessary to establish close international cooperation in such a globally strategically important area as space exploration.

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Freemon Sandlewould

These “democrats” and their masks. Total fakery.

Assad must stay

hurry!!!!

Raptar Driver

Remember space is made in a Hollywood basement. There will never be a Lunar Station since we can’t even get to the moon. Enough fantasizing about escape we have real problems here on earth.

Assad must stay

yea i always kinda wonder when they talk about space missions and this and that, how everyday war could erupt at any moment, all the hatred and greed and evil on earth, then they talk about space, sure space is cool, but all of humanity needs to unite to achieve this goal much faster

RichardD

Are all of the satellites in orbit and gps navigation, etc. part of your made in Hollywood flat earth outlook?

Raptar Driver

The satellites are not in outer space, they are in hi orbit within the earth’s atmosphere. The air is very thin up there They float up there for a while and then come crashing down, why is this hard to understand?

RichardD

You’re an obvious flat earther, moron and disinfo peddler. Once a rocket enters outer space it’s a simple matter for it to continue to the moon, Mars and beyond.

“as of April 1, 2020, there were a total of 2,666 satellites in Space”

– How many satellites orbit Earth –

https://www.geospatialworld.net/blogs/how-many-satellites-orbit-earth-and-why-space-traffic-management-is-crucial/

“Medium Earth orbit (MEO): geocentric orbits ranging in altitude from 2,000 km (1,200 mi) to just below geosynchronous orbit at 35,786 kilometers (22,236 mi). Also known as an intermediate circular orbit. These are used for Global Navigation Satellite System spacecraft, such as GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, BeiDou. GPS satellites orbits at the height of 20,200 kilometers (12,600 mi) with an orbital period of almost 12 hours.”

– List of orbits –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_orbits

“Outer space is the expanse that exists beyond Earth and between celestial bodies. Outer space is not completely empty—it is a hard vacuum containing a low density of particles, predominantly a plasma of hydrogen and helium, as well as electromagnetic radiation, magnetic fields, neutrinos, dust, and cosmic rays. …

Outer space does not begin at a definite altitude above the Earth’s surface. The Kármán line, an altitude of 100 km (62 mi) above sea level,[7][8] is conventionally used as the start of outer space in space treaties and for aerospace records keeping.”

– Outer space –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_space

Raptar Driver

I have been reading your posts for quite a while. It seems to me that you are a mental person who believes in aliens and all kinds of unprovable nonsense. Like the CIA is out to get you. You are crazy shut up.

RichardD

I’ve easily disproven your flat earth nonsense. You haven’t disproven anything that I’ve posted. Though you’re welcome to try.

“”Along with the briefcase with nuclear codes, the president of the country is given a special ‘top secret’ folder. This folder in its entirety contains information about aliens who visited our planet. Along with this, you are given a report of the absolutely secret special service that exercises control over aliens on the territory of our country…””

– PM Dmitry Medvedev: Russia has top secret files on aliens –

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/338646

Raptar Driver

Here comes the Speech Nazis again they don’t like truth.

You have done no such thing. I can pull figures out of my rectum also. NASA is full of it. Of course the earth isn’t flat, how else would we have mount Everest all the way down to the mariana trench? Even the professional liars you listen to now say that the earth is pear shaped. Wait what? Didn’t we go to the moon and see the earth, a round ball?

Raptar Driver

I can’t find your last post on this board But I will still respond. You are 1 of the most irrational commentors that I have come across. I would say you’re delusional not rational whatsoever. You’re critical thinking skills leave much to be desired. There is no evidence or proof whatsoever that there are extraterrestrial beings. You are retarded for believing in this. I believe I’ve told you this before, there is some evidence of extra dimensional beings. I am sorry for your confusion. Perhaps Some antipsychotics might help you? Do you even know that NASA has 0 proof they went to the moon? They said they lost their proof, the telemetry data & the technology. Interesting yes? Nice way to cover your tracks? Listen buddy I know when someone’s pissing on me at ain’t raining.

RichardD

I posted rational facts supported by credible evidence disproving your disinfo. You’ve posted zero evidence because you don’t have any because it doesn’t exist.

Raptar Driver

That’s messed up You should have complete freedom of speech.

I have posted a facts. Fact: NASA admits they don’t have the technology or the data. Of course they are liars So which is the lie? Fact: Neil degrasse Tyson Says that the earth is pear shapped. How did the earth go from a sphere to pear? Fact: You have very little critical thinking ability. It seems you only regurgitate facts from liars.

RichardD

When somebody behaves like a moron and idiot you should be able to call them out on it. SF is getting as bad as Twitter and Facebook with this type of behavior.

You haven’t provided any evidence to support your claims. Until you provide source material that can be examined, your Hollywood does the space program and there are no satellites in outer space nonsense is contradicted by a ton of credible evidence to the contrary.

Raptar Driver

Yes I agree with your 1st paragraph. You are wrong I provided you ample evidence. You choose to ignore it and listen to lies you’re mathematics are lies. We have never been to the moon you can’t prove that we have NASA can’t prove that we have. You can choose to live in ignorance then again you’re a former marine. When I was in the air force we considered marines mindless attack dogs. It Seems you fit the bill well.

RichardD

You haven’t provided credible proof of your claims or disproven my math or other evidence. Posting irrelevant nonsense about the pear shaped earth only proves that you’re irrational. https://youtu.be/HS1CWAkbRu0

Raptar Driver

Math is a construct to help us understand reality. It is not reality itself. I have provided extremely credible proof from NASA’s own lying mouth. Unfortunately for you it takes abstract critical thinking to see and understand this. Being a former marine I can see why this is difficult for you. And yes the footage from the mars landing is spectacular CGI.

RichardD

Doubling down on the lies doesn’t make them true. But it does prove that you’re a miscreant.

Where’s the proof from a credible source that the Mars video is CGI?

“I have provided extremely credible proof from NASA’s own lying mouth.” Really, such as? I didn’t see any.

Raptar Driver

Come on extraterrestrial boy! It is people like you and your NASA that doubles down triples down quadruple is down on the same lay over and over after it has been refuted.

RichardD

The difference between us is that I provide evidence and proof of my positions that would be accepted in a legitimate court of law and science lab. When challenged to do the same you make a fool out of yourself by refusing to do so and instead provide stupid dodges like this.

Raptar Driver

What you provide is indiscernible mathematical garbage. What I provide is logic and reason and it will hold up in a court of law. How many cases have you litigated in an actual court of law? I have won several cases in court as my own lawyer.

RichardD

You’re a habitual liar who hasn’t posted credible evidence who led claiming that you have.

Raptar Driver

I have not lied once! You have been taught how to think instead of thinking for yourself. Sorry Dicky

RichardD

More lies, it’s your MO.

Raptar Driver

Wrong! That is NASA’s MO.

RichardD

What proof do you have that disproves anything that I’ve posted, or proves your contention that there is no space program? So far you’ve provided none when challenged to do so. All that you’ve done is lie and evade. Because you’re a scammer, liar and disinfo peddler.

Raptar Driver

Come on Dicky, It seems the truth has gotten under your skin. No worries, It will itch for a bit and you will eventually have to scratch it..

RichardD

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46b10f9f6fbe1376b96def0fbab50881fd3c7378ebd891ef364eafa8ffbe712c.jpg

RichardD

“I provided you ample evidence.”

This is a lie. You didn’t provide any evidence that the space program is a Hollywood creation. I provided judicial prima facia evidence and scientific fact that the space program is real. For you to prove that it’s not. You have to provide judicial and scientific evidence and proof that would be accepted in a court of law and properly run laboratory. You’ve done nothing of the sort.

RichardD

This proves nothing about your Hollywood does NASA and no satellites in outer space claims:

“The reason is that the Earth spins, pulling the surface near the equator toward the outside, making the Earth ellipsoid, or oblate spheroid. The difference is small, only 21 km (13 miles) compared to Earth’s radius.

But in the southern parts of the Earth, the distance to the center is larger than in the northern parts. In effect, the Earth is a little chubbier in the south. Neil used the analogy ‘pear-shaped’ to explain the fact. What Neil meant was the geoid model which describes the figure of the Earth more accurately than the spherical or ellipsoid model. How much is the difference between the ellipsoid and the geoid model? Not more than 100 meters, or only about 0.0016% of the Earth’s radius.”

northerntruthseeker .

China and Russia putting men on the moon? Not in our lifetimes, for no one on Earth has solved the problems of radiation in space and the problem with traversing the VA belts of deadly radiation..

Thus this idea of a Chinese/Russian lunar base is pure fantasy, just like NASA’s fraud Apollo Moon missions of 50+ years ago….

PZIVJ

The Van Allen belt is not that powerful, and has been measured by satellites. The greater danger is a large solar flare pointed in the direction of the spacecraft after it has left the safety of the Earth’s magnetic field. Yes, there was a very slim chance of one of the Apollo missions being hit by a solar storm and the mission would not succeed. Water is a great radiation shield, I believe The Space Station has some built into the walls.

Selbstdenker

The most critical issue is the high energy particles hitting any craft on the moon surface, which has no magnetic field to divert these particles. (Earth magnetic field diverts these particles, which also results in the formation of the Van Allen belts, far above any sattelite in earth’s orbit). Any electronics must be shielded with high density shielding materials like lead or gold to be protected. If not enough shielding is applied a hit by these particles would destroy the electronics components and may destroy it. As most electronics would be mission critical such would endanger the msision, and with this any human payload. Looking at the high energy particles, also any human being on the moon would need such protection, as the risk of radiation and its effects on human DNA is high. The more if the sun is in an active sun spot cycle.

RichardD

“Earth’s magnetic field, predominantly dipolar at its surface, is distorted further out by the solar wind. This is a stream of charged particles leaving the Sun’s corona and accelerating to a speed of 200 to 1000 kilometres per second. They carry with them a magnetic field, the interplanetary magnetic field (IMF).[24]

The solar wind exerts a pressure, and if it could reach Earth’s atmosphere it would erode it. However, it is kept away by the pressure of the Earth’s magnetic field. The magnetopause, the area where the pressures balance, is the boundary of the magnetosphere. Despite its name, the magnetosphere is asymmetric, with the sunward side being about 10 Earth radii out but the other side stretching out in a magnetotail that extends beyond 200 Earth radii.[25] Sunward of the magnetopause is the bow shock, the area where the solar wind slows abruptly.[24]

Inside the magnetosphere is the plasmasphere, a donut-shaped region containing low-energy charged particles, or plasma. This region begins at a height of 60 km, extends up to 3 or 4 Earth radii, and includes the ionosphere. This region rotates with the Earth.[25] There are also two concentric tire-shaped regions, called the Van Allen radiation belts, with high-energy ions (energies from 0.1 to 10 million electron volts (MeV)). The inner belt is 1–2 Earth radii out while the outer belt is at 4–7 Earth radii. The plasmasphere and Van Allen belts have partial overlap, with the extent of overlap varying greatly with solar activity.[26]

As well as deflecting the solar wind, the Earth’s magnetic field deflects cosmic rays, high-energy charged particles that are mostly from outside the Solar System. Many cosmic rays are kept out of the Solar System by the Sun’s magnetosphere, or heliosphere.[27] By contrast, astronauts on the Moon risk exposure to radiation. Anyone who had been on the Moon’s surface during a particularly violent solar eruption in 2005 would have received a lethal dose.”

– Earth’s magnetic field –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field

Tommy Jensen

The United States also landed on and explored the sun like a fish in a sea of fires.

RichardD

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ec4faf4ecff3f82a5b2f897cf5e99f0f5baf8d03d89434c78fc5a9b0223a6b10.png

– Earth’s magnetic field –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field

RichardD

The moon is approximately 20 Earth radii from the Earth. Depending on where it is in its orbit. It’s either within or outside of Earth’s magnetosphere.

RichardD

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/df40a608a198527d2948db4aa4869723d9d12005c5fa5082375883a9bcbe8fab.png

RichardD

Radiation shielding is 6 inches of steel, 12 inches of concrete or 36 inches of dirt. People live for weeks or months on the space station outside of our atmosphere with far less protection than that. A Faraday cage is protection against nuclear or solar EMP.

TiredOfBsToo

If you haven’t seen it, check this out: centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-2/

Ivan Freely

I’d be very surprised if NASA could meet the 2024 deadline. I would say 2030 time frame is more realistic.

farbat

erdogan said that mongols will invade the moon on horseback in 2023

Blas de Lezo

Looks like China-Russia want to break the US economy Reagan style.

cechas vodobenikov

after US solves electricity problem in Texas they will create another Hollywood Ukraine comedy

RichardD

https://youtu.be/MlOjSQeO1Dg

RichardD

ET contact work trip planning. 200 yard diameter remote wilderness dry lakebed LZ. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/030b6a04f65466ec0a57cad0c065f950c0de8ef62197854fb16577446ca66741.jpg

RichardD

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fedc0b63b93c788eafcfe0de377d48dc55a624b2a892065044d60e2d594ec52d.jpg

RichardD

Landing zone security .30-06 Springfield anti material rifle. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/117a7036540b73c3802682a5ab82449139bcb3453c1f57e6808d0fc89ad32055.jpg

RichardD

18.5 mm dangerous lifeform QBC close quarters combat repeating cannon. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/083156588ff60fe138029f380f9bf52e0165105e374eb3e6ef6d08f01e128c27.jpg

RichardD

Contact op weight vest and dumbbell clean and press training equipment. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12057fff90b3d74e2f28c19ee785d9d9bde79189ce52a568d810c5d23735d2e8.jpg

Eyesore

La-La Land, joint us-soviet facilities on moon since early 70’s an mars soon followed…the team-rocket elite are eternal buddies an just feign enemy for revenue off & to suppress the commons.

Tommy Jensen

“Yankee go home and take us with you, we also wanna be Americans”. I have heard that sentence every time I travelled outside America. Even when I travelled to Mars to stay at our military US Space Command Centre, the Aliens said the same thing. They wanted dollares!

RichardD

This is almost identical to the creature that I encountered at night 2 years ago about ten miles from the LZ running down the side of the road about 75 feet in front of the car at about 20 miles an hour as I came around the corner before it veered off into the forest. Buying a dash cam is on my to do list. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/504ccad7e1ca7e742747642694d3120517dd5e260bf9cacf87ecf5a8152260d5.png

RichardD

I only saw it from the rear. It was down on all fours. I couldn’t see enough of it to make a positive ID. But the fur was brown like this. And we only have black bear in this area. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/35c8b25b6f8dbd97de6a0e2f2909c4c9645ed2fa63ebd8ace8faa7d8f81cf01c.png

RichardD

When I got to the area that I was reconning after the creature encounter. I got as far as I could with the rental suv that I was driving that night. And stopped at a damaged washed out section of road that would have required a high ground clearance 4×4 to get past. And got the folding electric bike out of the back. And did an eight mile round trip deeper into the forest.

About 3 miles further in the road was covered with snow in places. There was a bigfoot track line crossing the road through the section that was snow covered. It was from before a thaw and the quality wasn’t good. I only had a .32 acp in my pocket loaded with hard cast lead woods rounds. And no spare ammo or magazines. I was traveling light that night.

I was concerned for my saf

Dick Von Dast'Ard

What the morons in Washington, Brussels and London don’t seem to have cottoned on to here, is that they have helped create what is basically a bigger, more powerful, better financed Soviet Union in space with an alliance between Moscow and Beijing and their state backed space agencies.

johnscriv

I wonder if they’ll visit the Apollo moon landing sites … of course not, they don’t exist.

SOF

For a Director General of Roscosmos Space Corporation, this guy has a decent sense of humor.

RichardD

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed604c67427d83de303ec23ee77e2daf11fafe3cfd037fef6f36a0335978fbd7.jpg

RichardD

I ran my first ET contact op of the year today in a remote forest wilderness. I made a couple of recon probes up to the snowline in my Toyota Prius to see if any areas suitable for interaction with ET visitors were accessible. They weren’t. Though with my Bronco ll some of the lower elevation ones probably are.

And then went for a hike and ran function, target laser, tactical light and fiber optic sight tests on my 9 mm and .40 S&W. And indentified some areas for improvement. The calisthenics and weight lifting that I’ve been doing for the past several months really made things much easier and enjoyable. I felt 10 to 20 years younger.

The democrats just introduced an assault weapons ban to decimate our gun rights and freedoms. While doing nothing about the psychiatric drugs and Jew media filth fueling the mass shootings. That were almost non existant 30 years when our gun rights were much stronger. Before they legalized psycho shooter drugs and flooded society with them. Knowing that mass shootings, suicides and other crime would be fueled by them.

RichardD

Bronco ll set up for remote wilderness winter ops. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fe5da2a221052d3aed989f1b7dc6c23bf30092cf328bb97c074cbd729ce28f83.jpg

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