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Pro-Trump media seems to be weaponizing the very same approach that their opponents used to fight against the administration of Donald Trump. Years of the Trump presidency were marked by the baseless neo-liberal media hysteria claiming that Trump is a traitor or, at least, the fool played by Putin in his ‘dirty games’. Speculations and anonymous reports claiming that their authors know the ‘truth’ about the Russian meddling in US elections and efforts to kill US citizens or at least damage US interests all around the world.
Now, the pro-Trump campaign releases the very same reports with the only difference: the role played by the Russians in the neo-liberal fantasies was given to the Chinese to in articles of their conservative counterparts.
ZeroHedge released an article reviewing a recent report on the alleged Chinese bounties for US troops in Afghanistan. The report originally appeared at Axios in fact reassembles earlier speculation about ‘Russian bounties’ for US troops in Afghanistan that appeared to be baseless speculations.
The current format of the conflict in Afghanistan and the Taliban domination on the battlefield mean that all forces playing an important role in the region have some contacts with the Taliban to promote their interests and solve security-related questions. The United States itself is engaged in official direct talks with the movement and signed a ceasefire deal with it. Apparently, some US-linked entities even pay money to the Taliban to solve their security-related issues. Does this mean that there are US bounties for Chinese citizens that work in Afghanistan?
ZeroHedge reports the following:
The Trump administration is declassifying a US intelligence report that China offered to pay non-state actors in Afghanistan to attack American forces, according to Axios, citing two senior administration officials.
Amusingly, Axios prominently disclaims the intel as ‘unconfirmed’ in their headline – a word which somehow escaped the MSM’s vocabulary when a nearly identical report came out in June regarding alleged Russian bounties on American soldiers, which remains — unconfirmed.
According to the report, Trump was briefed on the ‘as-yet uncorroborated’ Chinese bounty intelligence on December 17, and discussed it with national security adviser Robert O’Brien the same day according to officials.
“The U.S. has evidence that the PRC [People’s Republic of China] attempted to finance attacks on American servicemen by Afghan non-state actors by offering financial incentives or ‘bounties’” and said the National Security Council “is coordinating a whole-of-government investigation,” one official told Axios, who would not say if he was referring to the Taliban or other ‘non-state actors.’
The same person said that the Trump administration received earlier intelligence regarding “PRC weapons illicitly flowing into Afghanistan.”
The British and U.S. governments have previously complained about Chinese-made weapons being used by the Taliban.
- The interest in Afghanistan stems in part from Beijing’s desire to prevent Chinese Muslim separatist groups from using the country as a base.
- Afghan security officials recently discovered an alleged Chinese spy ring operating in the country apparently seeking to target Uighurs there, according to a Dec. 25 report from the Hindustan Times. -Axios
It’s unknown if members of Congress or President-elect Joe Biden have been briefed, however Biden currently has access to the President’s Daily Brief (PDB). When contacted for comment, the Chinese embassy in D.C. didn’t respond to the news outlet, while President Trump is not believed to have discussed it with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Also unclear is when the alleged bounties were offered – though the source says it happened sometime after late February after the United States struck a deal with the Taliban.
One senior official involved in the latest China discussions told Axios “Like all first reports, we react with caution to initial reports,” adding “any intel reports relating to the safety of our forces we take very seriously.”
Following up on the briefing, officials conducted a Policy Coordinating Committee (PCC) meeting to discuss the intelligence. The meeting had two objectives; gain more insight from the intelligence community to verify the initial reports, and to consult with the intelligence and defense communities involved in the force protection posture for the remaining US forces in Afghanistan.
More via Axios:
Behind the scenes: The intelligence was included in the president’s briefing on Dec. 17, and Trump was verbally briefed on the matter by National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien, officials said.
- Administration officials across multiple agencies are currently working to corroborate the initial intelligence reports.
- Axios was not able to visually inspect any reports detailing the intelligence. A summary was described by phone by the officials.
Why it matters: If this intelligence were to be confirmed, it would represent a dramatic strategic shift for China, and sharply escalate tensions between China and the U.S. If the intelligence does not prove accurate, it raises questions about the motivations of the sources behind it as well as the decision to declassify it.
- China has long played a quiet diplomatic role in Afghanistan, inviting Afghan Taliban officials to Beijing to discuss plans for a peace deal and encouraging an Afghan-led solution, though Chinese-made weapons and financing have at times also flowed into the conflict there.
- It seems “incongruous” that China would take such a provocative action in Afghanistan, Andrew Small, a senior fellow at the German Marshall Fund who specializes in China-Afghanistan affairs, told Axios.
- Pursuing peace in Afghanistan is “one of the extremely rare areas where the US and China still have a willingness to work together on an area of importance,” Small said. “They know the drawdown is taking place. We’re not in the context where anything else needs to happen to US troops in Afghanistan. There is no reason to create additional pressure on US forces.”
when the russian paid talibans to kill american soldiers in afghanistan wasn’t sellable, the exceptional morons in the white house now present the next ruse, that china did the very same thing. the stupidity of the exceptional morons in the white house/pentagon/langley is made obvious for the world to see -have a larf.
This is more proof that NATO ‘intelligence’ (please my use of this oxymoron) have the abilities of an illiterate five year old, when it comes to creating believable bedtime stories to confuse the world. :)
Enter MI6 and the CIA to compete for the, Most Stupid Plot of the Year Award.
Trump is a fat soreass loser who is being turfed out and knows that Biden will start mending fences with China and Iran, so he playing a spoiler, but too late, mere two left and fuckall is about to happen.
You don’t need to be math genius to understand that China would pay anyone who would drag the US into pointless and endless war. This is based on the ancient and classical typical methods called ”Drag your enemeis into waste lands and waste their time and resources”
And what would Israel’s interest in dragging the US in Mideast wastelands be?
please…. nobody needs incentives to kill amerikans except cannibals; the refined cannibal requires a high quality product—not a diseased inferior obese tasteless amerikan that grazes on Macdonalds, LSD, meth, fries and processed food every day…however the impoverished BLM cannibal may make an exception with a large bounty if plenty of Mexican salsa is provided to disguise the putrid taste
These people are so far down into the pit of depravity i don’t think there is a way back for them.
Why would China waste any money to have anyone kill Americans in any part of the world? Americans are already experts at killing each other back in the US. I was trying to find out how many murders there were in the US in 2019 but had no luck online. I came across the figure of 16,425 by a Bloomberg related site – statista.com. That seems like a low number considering the United Nations Office On Drugs and Crime gives a figure of 5.35 murders per 100,000 residents. Considering that the US has a population of ~331 million souls – that equates to over 17,000 people exterminated last year. So the US remains highly exceptional. For comparison, the murder rate in China was 0.62 for a population of ~1.4 billion – more than four times that of the US. That equates to less than HALF of the mayhem occurring in the US in 2019. So disregard this horse dung from ZeroHedge. It is just more propaganda for the uniformed, misinformed, naive, gullible and feeble minded who have to be told what they should know and think. The big media companies and many websites direct their content at people who are too lazy to do any of their own research and thus are easily brainwashed.
you mean the ones suffering from herd stupidity, i.e. the poor undereducated fuckers in the lower 48 excepting the native population living in their reservations cleaning out the herd stupids with their casinos.
The time has come, and its China’s time to die. Dont ask why. Its time to settle the score……………………………………………………………………………..LOL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tbWVLEO6kw
The Chinese do not operate on the “bottom” like this. The CPC operates at a larger scale when they want to influence the destiny of a country.
Only the Ango-Zio-Americans still employ outdated and ineffective methods like spy cells and terror groups embedded in a population.
The CPC simply buys off all the top politicians and things just fall into line after that.
Aryan comes from a people inhabited in northern India-Iran and defined as a special set of culture, religious, linguistic ideas. One needs a heavy history book to see the connection to China in your example.
“One needs a heavy history book to see the connection to China in your example.”
If one is as narrow minded as yourself, not even a heavy text book will help. Let me expand:
While you’re fixated on “Aryan”, Kipling wasn’t really fixated on that. Aryan was just the term he used for the particular asian people he encountered.
His broader reference was in the epitaph:
“A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”
Is that general enough for you? A little thought goes a long way …
Later westerners said something on similar lines, and there the Chinese connection is clearer:
Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery said it in 1962, and again in 1968:
Rule 1, on page 1 of the book of war, is: “Do not march on Moscow”. Various people have tried it, Napoleon and Hitler, and it is no good. That is the first rule. I do not know whether your Lordships will know Rule 2 of war. It is: “Do not go fighting with your land armies in China”. It is a vast country, with no clearly defined objectives. (in the House of Lords, May 30, 1962)
He revised this to (more or less) the current version after the U.S. got involved in Vietnam:
The United States has broken the second rule of war. That is: don’t go fighting with your land army on the mainland in Asia. Rule One is, don’t march on Moscow. I developed those two rules myself. (New York Times, July 3, 1968)
If you penetrate a little further into these statements you may be able to grasp exactly why they advise against “hustling the East” …
Come on. You embrace your own intelligence by referring to Montgomery’s silly conclusions? Any idiot can figure out its not a good idea to landwar against 1,4 billion people. Any idiot can conclude today that Sweden, Napoleon and Hitler made a bad war strategy. Japan was hustled yes? Who lies today under the tombstone? Japan yes! You are ice skating on the matter like bambi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_2JxliY8Zo
” The CPC simply buys off all the top politicians and things just fall into line after that. ”
How very ZioAmerican of them.
‘CPC simply buys off all the top politicians and things just fall into line after that’ How easy! ‘things just fall into line after that’ Americans will never learn to buy off top politicians
…and that is not the only thing the Chinese have been doing. They have also been doing other things!
” They have also been doing other things! ” Would they include the manufacture of products for a price than everyone can afford in the West? Without China, the inflation in the West would have greatly reduced living standards in the past 30 years.
Yes! And the other things are to much dangerous for Americans freedom! USA senate must start serious investigation about the other things done by China. It is very important to stop China doing the other things, while it does this things!
Ah it hurts while you are in Afghanistan on your war and someone else sponsors sponsors weapons on your enemies, hurts ah> it was good when you were doing it to Soviets in the 80s by selling stingers to the nasty terrorists. DEAL with it, how will you do things that’s how they will come to you.
I wonder if the U.S. public will ever see the pattern and stop believing this BS. It’s always the same. ‘Enemy X{ Iran, Russia, or China } did Y{hacked, paid bounties, attacked our democracy, arrested or killed dissident, displace U.S.}’
The stories are ALWAYS the same. The ONLY thing that changes are the ‘noun’ and the ‘action’ and it ALWAYS follows what Buffy fans would call the seasons ‘Bid Bad’.
The answer of course is no. We are dumb as dirt.
Who cares ? the US publicly gave stinger missiles to the Afghanis to shoot down Soviet aircraft. Why dont the Chinese and Russians nicely remind the Zios of that minor fact ? Its time to take the gloves off.
Trump is owned by Russia and anyone else willing to pay or withhold damaging information on him. Trump is a man-child and a disgrace. But you are wrong to choose Saudi Arabia/China and their broke down North Korea population control techniques over traditional democratic freedoms. If you cannot openly question your leaders you are a slave. Americans and many countries are able to questions their leaders. We peacefully kicked our oppressor out of office, can you say the same?
Don’t say “peacefully” until Biden’s inauguration. There will be bachelors party at January 10th, as I heard.