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The Saker: “A much needed “Likbez” about Russian Tu-160 bombers in Venezuela”

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Written by The Saker; Originally appeared at The Unz Review

Rusty museum antiques or the Star War’s Death Star?

Remember what happened when the Admiral Kuznetsov carrier sailed around Europe to reach the eastern Mediterranean?  NATO leaders were making fun of the black smoke coming out of the ship’s engine while at the same time shadowing the Kuznetsov as if it was the Death Star from the Star Wars series and as if it’s final goal was to obliterate the British Isles.  Frankly, this is nothing new.  Even during the Cold War, western propagandists liked to dismiss all Soviet weapons systems as junk while at the same time declaring that they were the terrifying weapons of a Mordor-like Evil Empire set to destroy the Entire Free World.  This time around, we are seeing exactly the same pattern yet again:

The  Saker: "A much needed “Likbez” about Russian Tu-160 bombers in Venezuela"

NATO is busy intercepting “museum pieces”

The US Ambassador to Colombia Kevin Whitaker declared that these aircraft were so old that they were “museum pieces.”

Mike Pompeo (who makes even Nikki Haley look almost smart and almost sweet!) angrily declared that this was a case of “two corrupt governments squandering public funds, and squelching liberty and freedom while their people suffer.”

Diego Moya-Ocampos, a senior analyst for IHS Markit Ltd, a London-based global information provider, declared that “This is Russia trying to force the U.S. to say, ‘listen if you withdraw from this and if you make these moves in Europe, we will make these moves as well.’” He also added that a “Russian base would represent a much larger investment in Venezuela than Russia has signaled it’s willing to make, as well as a larger provocation to the United States.”

There is so much military illiteracy in the AngloZionist Empire that, once again, I decided to engage in some much needed LikBez to try to set the record straight.

First, the basics: the Tu-160 is, indeed, a supersonic heavy strategic bomber, meaning that they have the speed and range to strike targets at long distance (how far depends on the load, the availability of in-flight refueling and flight profile; usually a max range of 12’000km is quoted). While the Tu-160 can carry regular (“dumb”) bombs, it’s primary weapons are cruise missiles, specifically six Raduga Kh-55SM/101/102/555 missiles or twelve AS-16 Kickbackmissiles. The former has a range of about 4,500–5,000–5,500 km (2,800–3,100–3,400 mi; some sources even claim as much as 10,000 km (6,200 mi) range with a flight endurance of 10 hours. The AS-16 is a short range weapon with a range of 300 km (160 nmi) which can fly at 40,000 m (130,000 ft) and then dive at a speed of Mach 5. Both of these missiles have a low radar cross-section, advanced guidance (including terminal), onboard electronic warfare kit and maneuvering capabilities. Finally, these missiles exist in various variants including conventional, nuclear and anti-ship. The first conclusion, these figures suggest, is that Russia does not need to send her bombers anywhere near the USA to deliver a powerful conventional or nuclear strike: with a range anywhere between 4500km and 10000km the main missile armament of the Tu-160 does not require this bomber to be anywhere near the target at the moment of launch of the missile.  Instead of attacking from Venezuela, the Tu-160 can fire its missiles from over the polar cap and still strike the continental USA.

This is true for bombers, but this is even more true of ship or submarine-based ballistic and cruise missiles.

Second, this is hardly the first time the Russian military paid a visit to Venezuela: Russian Aerospace bombers visited the country in 2013, and Russian Navy ships did so in 2008. Nothing happened then, and nothing happened now.

The  Saker: "A much needed “Likbez” about Russian Tu-160 bombers in Venezuela"

I will admit, this is a scary looking “strateg” (as these supersonic heavy strategic bombers are called by their crews)

So what’s all the hysterics all about?

I think that this is all about internal US politics and, shall we say, “information management”: every time the Russian military visits Venezuela, the US public comes dangerously close to finding out three things the Neocons and their Deep State desperately want to keep a secret from the US public:

  1. The US mainland is completely undefended for the very simple reason that (almost!) nobody is threatening it.
  2. Russia has the means to deliver conventional and nuclear strikes anywhere in the USA.
  3. We have never been as close to a full-scale conventional and nuclear war as we are today.

Let’s look at each one of these statements one by one.

The USA is totally undefended because nobody threatens it.

True, Russia and (to a lesser degree) China, can strike the USA.  But since they could only do that at the cost of a terrible counter-strike by US conventional and nuclear forces, US force planners and analysts are pretty darn confident that neither Russia nor China will initiate such a strike.  Besides, unlike the AngloZionist Empire, neither the Soviet Union nor Russia has ever planned for an attack on the US or Europe.

[Sidebar: quick reminder for the believers in “western values” – this is what the wonderful western allies had in store for the Soviet Union by the end of WWII:
Plan Totality (1945): earmarked 20 Soviet cities for obliteration in a first strike: Moscow, Gorki, Kuybyshev, Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, Omsk, Saratov, Kazan, Leningrad, Baku, Tashkent, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, Magnitogorsk, Molotov, Tbilisi, Stalinsk, Grozny, Irkutsk, and Yaroslavl.
Operation Unthinkable (1945) assumed a surprise attack by up to 47 British and American divisions in the area of Dresden, in the middle of Soviet lines. This represented almost half of roughly 100 divisions (ca. 2.5 million men) available to the British, American and Canadian headquarters at that time. (…) The majority of any offensive operation would have been undertaken by American and British forces, as well as Polish forces and up to 100,000 German Wehrmacht soldiers.
Operation Dropshot (1949): included mission profiles that would have used 300 nuclear bombs and 29,000 high-explosive bombs on 200 targets in 100 cities and towns to wipe out 85% of the Soviet Union’s industrial potential at a single stroke. Between 75 and 100 of the 300 nuclear weapons were targeted to destroy Soviet combat aircraft on the ground.
But the biggest proof is, I think, the fact that none of these plans was executed, even though at the time the Anglosphere was safely hidden behind its monopoly on nuclear weapons (and were Hiroshima and Nagasaki not destroyed in part to “scare the Russians”?) See here for more details]

However, if the people of the USA realize that they don’t have any credible enemy, they might wonder why their country spends more on “defense” than the rest of the planet combined.  They might even get angrier if they came to realize that even though their country spends more on “defense” than the rest of the planet combined, they remain entirely unprotected.

Russia can wipe out the United States

During the Cold War, the vast majority of US Americans knew that the USSR could wipe out the USA in a massive nuclear strike. However, since the end of the Cold War, this fact has been somewhat pushed back away from the awareness of most US decision makers (hence their frankly suicidal rhetoric and policies).  Nowadays the big difference with the Cold War is that Russia can strike anywhere inside the United States using only conventional weapons.  Two years ago I wrote a detailed analysis on how Russia is preparing for WWIII so I won’t go into all the details here, but just mention one excellent example of this new conventional capability of the Russian military:

Take the Kalibr cruise-missile recently seen in the war in Syria. Did you know that it can be shot from a typical commercial container, like the ones you will find on trucks, trains or ships? Check out this excellent video which explains this:

Just remember that the Kalibr has a range of anywhere between 50km to 4000km and that it can carry a nuclear warhead. How hard would it be for Russia to deploy these cruise missiles right off the US coast in regular container ships? Or just keep a few containers in Cuba or Venezuela? This is a system which is so undetectable that the Russians could deploy it off the coast of Australia to hit the NSA station in Alice Springs if they wanted, a nobody would even see it coming.

And keep in mind that the Kalibr is not the only conventional/nuclear-capable missile (ballistic or cruise) which Russia can unleash against US military targets worldwide, including inside the USA. The weapons systems listed by Putin in his now famous speech are all formidable weapons in their own right (see Andrei Martynov’s excellent analysis of the military implication of these new weapon systems and my own analysis of their political implications).  Some readers might mistakenly think that Russian conventional missiles are somehow less of a threat than nuclear ones, but that would be a major mistake.  In deterrence and escalation theory it is crucial for each side to have what is called “escalation dominance” at all levels of the retaliatory spectrum.  Simply put, the so-called “Mutually Assured Destruction” (or MAD) is a very weak posture because of its very low first-strike stability (due to the “use them or lose them” force structure) and because using nuclear weapons is, under a MAD posture, equivalent to suicide.  However, having small tactical nukes and, even more so, conventional strategic weapons gives Russia a significant escalation dominance advantage which the USA cannot match.  In a 2017 article I debunked in some details the two crucial US American myths about the US military posture; the first myth is the myth of the US military superiority and the second myth is the myth about the US invulnerability, so I will just repeat here that these two myths are total bunk. The reality is that the USA is *extremely* vulnerable to Russian conventional strikes (see the article I mention for all the details): Russia has a wide choice of conventional weapons, ranging from hypersonic ballistic missiles to long-range cruise missiles. Furthermore, Russia has absolutely no need at all to send two Tu-160 bombers to Venezuela to somehow increase that capability.

A war between the USA and Russia will probably happen soon unless the USA changes its suicidal political course

One truth which is never mentioned by the AngloZionist propaganda is that Russia has retreated as far as she can and that there is a broad consensus in Russia among both the political elites and the people that Russia cannot retreat any further. God knows that even if all the “Putin caved in” propaganda is nonsense, it remains nonetheless true that the perception of the western elites is usually a strange mix of dismissing Russia while, at the same time, presenting Russia as the number one enemy on the planet.  I don’t know whether the people making these statements really believe them or not, but the resulting policy is one of a total and never-ending hostility mixed in with a quasi-religious belief in the superiority and even invulnerability of the “collective West.” And this is precisely the kind of mindset which results in stupid and bloody wars! Let me repeat this again: Russia has already done all she can to avoid a war with the USA, and there is nothing else she can do; in contrast, every single US policy towards Russia is bringing us one step closer to an almost inevitable war.

The two Tu-160’s in this context: think of it as a *gentle* wake-up call

The  Saker: "A much needed “Likbez” about Russian Tu-160 bombers in Venezuela"

4 Russian aircraft in Venezuela is all it took to freak out the Empire

The importance of the visit of the two Tu-160’s to Venezuela is not military, but psychological: by showing up so near the USA in such a highly visible manner, the Russians are not threatening the USA or sending some kind of message to the US military. What they are doing is trying to gently wake up the media-zombified US population by showing it that yes, the “evil Putin” has the means to “reach” as far as the USA if needed. This, while hardly any big news to the US military, seems to be coming like somewhat of a shock to a lot of folks in the USA. The reality is that a single modern Russian SSBN in port in Russia is a far more formidable threat to the USA than these two bombers, but that is not something that anybody is willing to admit to the people of the USA, so Russia sent her two bombers in a clearly visible way to force even the corporate Ziomedia to mention it.

In case of a shooting war between Russia and the USA, a couple of Russian bombers won’t make much of a difference, but if they can act as the proverbial tip of the iceberg and, maybe, finally get the US public (or, at least some of its representatives) to wake up to the real threat and demand that the USA pull-back from its current full-scale confrontation with Russia, then this would be a good result.

The  Saker: "A much needed “Likbez” about Russian Tu-160 bombers in Venezuela"

A much more serious threat: A Borei-class SSBN docking in its home port of Severodvinsk in northern Russia

If not, then at least the Kremlin has shown support for the Venezuelan government and the Venezuelan people by proving to the world that the famous “Monroe Doctrine” is long dead and that the putatively “sole superpower on the planet” can do absolutely nothing to prevent Russia (or any other country for that matter) from openly thumbing a collective nose at Uncle Shmuel.

Will that be enough?

I doubt it. But nothing is preventing Russia from trying other, possibly more explicit, “wake-up calls.” For example, a Russian Borei-class SSBN could fire a few of its SLBMs in a ripple-launch and have them land somewhere close enough to the USA to force the US media to pay attention (usually the Russians use the Kura missile test range in the Russian Far East, but these launches are entirely ignored in the West). So why not strike some target in, say, Venezuela? Of course, before any such launch, Russia would fully inform all the countries affected, especially, the USA and use either a dummy or a conventional warhead. And, of course, these missiles would be fired from the submarine’s dock, without even leaving port, not necessarily the main dock, but one situated further out on the Kola Peninsula would be an option. Heck, the Russians could even invite the foreign press corps, and the military attaches accredited in Russia and transmit the full thing on TV. This kind of demonstration runs very much against the Russian military culture and its maniacal obsession with secrecy (such a launch would not be without risks), but surely it is worth taking such a risk if that can bring the AngloZionist leaders and the population they rule over to their senses. Okay, maybe my idea is far-fetched, but you get the idea. Russia needs to not only talk but actually *show* that her weapons can reach well-inside the USA (and anywhere along the extremely fragile US coastline) and then wait and see whether the Americans want to engage in serious, meaningful, talks finally (as opposed to the ridiculous short chats Trump’s handlers allow him to have with Putin when they meet at some kind of summit; apparently “tweeting” is an accurate representation on how Trump’s brain works…).

Conclusion: All wars eventually end. The critical question is “how?”

Russia and the Empire have been at war since at least 2014. This has been an 80% informational war, 15% economic war and only 5% (or less) a kinetic one. But the Empire is running out of stupid accusations and hollow threats, its economic warfare has been a dismal failure, and all that’s left is to “go kinetic” which would be a disaster for all parties.  Bottom line:

The US dream of subduing Russia is long dead.

The US dream of threatening Russia is long dead.

The US dream of remaining the sole superpower (aka “World Hegemon”) is long dead.

What can the US do in this situation?

To trigger a kinetic war would be suicidal.  Bullying Russia with threats does not work.  Pretending like reality is not happening is the current US strategy, but it is clearly unsustainable (and every Tu-160 visit to Venezuela further undermines it).

I don’t see any other solution than to put an end to this war and (finally!) negotiate a global peace plan with Russia.

If not, expect many more Russian military hardware getting closer to the US borders.

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Hildisvíni

Destroying the computers in London and New York would be enough. It would cause the Empire to self ignite. The thing is, the rulers of the Empire have no support from its population. And the rulers view its populations with hostility. The Empire would never survive a drop in living standards.

You can call me Al

A few jolly large EMPs are needed.

Hildisvíni

I would be surprised if critical bank systems were not hardened against EMPs.

You can call me Al

Bah; you always ruin things.

Drop them anyway, because I do not like either city – and let’s hope.

Manuel Flores Escobar

To deploy 2 TU 160 in Venezuela is just simple…it is to warn USA that Russia can build bases in Venezuela, Cuba and even Nicaragua…therefore Russia can take control of Caribbean sea and gulf of Mexico…and they can fight vs near USA with conventional weapons!

Morton

Venezuela is crumbling even faster than the TU 160 are. Putting anything into that sewer of a country is just a money-drain.

Manuel Flores Escobar

I heard that since Chavez became president…and nothing happen!..if USA deploy troops and missile in Ukraine..surely Russia will deploy troops in Cuba and Venezuela!

Matt Hol

TU 160’s are modern bombers you utter f–ing ret-rd. Plus brand new ones are on order.

Harvey Swinestein

Another excellent article by The Saker . .

Bob Starsky

You joking, right? Saker is a bolshevik idiot who calls for genocide on Poles and Balts! Why SouthFront still post this pos instead remove him and call the police?! Saker: ” Soviet Union nor Russia has ever planned for an attack on the US or Europe.” He is either mental case or lack education about e.g. Soviet-nazi alliance in 1939-41 when they attacked Europe and have done war crimes like russians did on Poles in Katyn or by robbing Poles and sending them to die in death camps. Damn, just read official commie materrials. The whole idea about soviet union was about conquering Europe, murdering “bourgeois” and forcing everyone to bolshevism! What the fuck was doing soviets union in Warsaw in 1920? How anyone with healthy brain can call it other way than invasion?! Damn, if i would see him irl i would citizen arrest him and put to prison for propagating totalitarian regime and calling for mass murder.

You can call me Al

EVERYONE, should block this idiot; he is here to just disrupt the threads. He is a troll who upticks himself and writes nonsense.

Remember that he gets shekels for every response.

PS Yes I know and I shall pay the shekel myself.

Tudor Miron

Ah! OK than. I thought that this one escaped from intensive mental therapy. I was thinking that poles shold better spend on their mental hospital security other than investing two billion $ in US base on their soil.

You can call me Al

Fair play.

Merry Christmas; hopefully catch you before New Year.

Tudor Miron

Merry Christmas, Al! Have a great holidays! BTW – I have to say that it is simply beautiful here now. In many places when trees loose leafs during winter time it looks sad. Trees look naked and miserable. Here every tree is dressed with ice crystals and snow – gorgeous fairytale! Those that think that cold winter is a negative simply deprive themselves from one of beautiful sides of life on this planet. Winter is beautiful and refreshing :) Have you ever been in Russia?

ruca

С Наступающим Тудор

Tudor Miron

Thank you! :) С Наступающим!

You can call me Al

Never been to Russia BUT I WANT TO; that is the truth.I could live there to be honest -> the NL bores the crap out of me.

Merry Christmas mate and to your family; catch you shortly.

Jens Holm

Trolls to me hide. Thats not hidden, he is like that.

Hisham Saber

Funny and a blessing that God gave us gentiles the ability to spot a Jew from a km/mile away. In their physical appearance and just about every other way.

ruca

He got Jens Holm to uptick too. Are they one and the same?

You can call me Al

Nothing surprises me. Merry Christmas.

ruca

Merry Christmas Al!

Prince Teutonic

Empire or better said their leaders know very well that with each year passing by they are weaker but Russia and China are stronger. So they are nervous because they must provoke either of them before it’s to late…

NOS

The proof is that the empire’s debt stood at $20Trillion in 2017 and by the end of 2018 it’s above $21Trillion.

The empire’s military budget was $650Billion and is going up to $850Billion, whereas Russia’s military budget went from $65Billion to $46Billion!!!!

What’s going wrong here?

How can’t $850Billion be used to build the most formidable weapons in the world?

The laws of physics + $46Billion/year >>>>> Stupidity + $850Billion/year

Morton

Different cost base. A professional U.S. combatant earns over 10x as much as his Russian counterpart. This is actually fair given that the Russian counterpart tends to be an inept drunk.

ruca

Stereotype much? Perhaps projecting?

Jens Holm

You dont understand western economics. Thats what goes wrong. You are in Russian or Muhammeds, which is so pirmitive, that tose only is small vital ones in ours.

We do have big problems, but You compare wrong things and there cant understand, why we actually do have a lot money too.

I will not try to learn You much about debth but just give You 1 example. If You take a loan of 100 rubels and each year has 10 and 10 in interest, but those 100 rubels is used for a cow and hard work giving back 130 rubels back, You actually have 10 rubels owned for Yourself.

So its a matter of balance. If You produce more then the loan is, its fine. But if You eat or build a house for more then the 10, You get minus. Some loans has variable interest. So if You take a loan and the interest goes from 10% for u get zero.If Ythe interest goes to 25%, You are in minus and big trouble.

A total other country is Turkey. They have taken big loans to make investments, but has failed, because the production is not added up dicibing pay back with interest and food for the table.

So You can have loans and loans for Billions and the western economy has that as mainbase in stead of having :) 4 people having 1/4 cow producing nothing.

Shares/bonds are like that. Those are investments = Loans. You expect those as minmum pay back every year and hope the value of the company goes up by grown and being more effective.

So You also have Your investment in 100 ribels can be sold for fx 125 or 150 rubels making profit there too. Of course it has a risk and the world goes up and down, so Ypu can looses all.

But we see, that even things go toattly wrong all those minusses and plusses make netto plus. Producers and investers wirk harder in that way, because it pays off.

I hope You understand a little more. Dephts are base for our economy, and we own each other by that. 80% in Denmark are companies by stockholders. Only 20% are private ones. By that You hore the best and those often are not in the family way or some ocorrupt oligark in the mafiosa way for ownpurpose only.

Hisham Saber

Another moronic post that makes no sense nor is it linguistically comprehensible.

Fuckin Jew.

Jens Holm

You are fucking a jew ? How much Do You pay ?

Daily Beatings

“You dont understand western economics.”

You sure as hell don’t understand economics, or finance. Take this abomination:

“I will not try to learn You much about debth but just give You 1 example. If You take a loan of 100 rubels and each year has 10 and 10 in interest, but those 100 rubels is used for a cow and hard work giving back 130 rubels back, You actually have 10 rubels owned for Yourself.”

You have a loan of 100 rubles with an annual payment of 10 rubles plus interest of 10 rubles. This calculates into a 10 year loan with total payments of 200 rubles, 100 in principal plus 100 to service the debt.

If you make 130 rubles over the course of the loan you have a net profit of 30 rubles or an annual rate of return of 3% (30/10)/100. My advice is to get of the dairy business since you can’t make an acceptable ROI.

Finance 101 stuff, which is not complicated, and you still got it wrong.

Hisham Saber

The U.S. has 600+ military bases around the world. That cost exuberant amounts of funding. Also, the U.S. has something called the Veterans Administration that covers former soldiers, going all the way back to the Korean conflict, all the way up till the present day. Most U.S. veterans are disabled , suffer from many, many afflictions from PTSD to Hep C , which costs enormous amounts of funding to operate an overwhelmed system.

Btw, the system of health care and other costs associated with U.S. veterans is so overwhelmed, many don’t even see proper care. Many veterans are homeless, sick, psychologically destroyed etc. Its so bad, that in the U.S., every 22 minutes a military veteran commits suicide. I used to know one of them.

Tommy Jensen

The problem is, Russia sends 2 scary looking TU-160 bombers to visit Venezuela. When they are scary looking, they frighten and upset vulnerable innocent American citizens unnecessary on their own soil. THAT is the problem!

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

Meanwhile, the NATO gangsters are prancing around less than 100 miles from St Petersburg. How far is Venezuela from the US, Tommy? I knew the US Plebs were ignorant about geography, but this can only be wilful ignorance typical of a Third World country. I find the forced education of the US Plebs to be really refreshing. Just what the Dr (Putin) ordered!

Bob Starsky

To beat a bully (Russia) u need a bigger Bully (USA) so it is only russian fault they try to bully Balts and Poland. Dont tell me you demand genocide of Poles and Balts and you are a racist stalin worshiper?!

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

You really are a massive ignoranus, aren’t you, Bob? Russia left Poland and the Baltic states when the Soviet Union was disbanded in 1991. How exactly is Russia “bullying” Poland and Balts? Can you name specific actions rather than the Sovietised propaganda we are fed by the media of the US/EU/NATO gangster states? Personally, I have had enough of the US bullying of Mexico. I have even heard that the violent and expansionist US nicked some Mexican territory. Perhaps, Putin should send some soldiers there to deter US bullying, interference and invasions that Mexico suffers from? You are an anti-Russian RACIST ignoranus, much like the power-hungry US/EU/NATO “leaders”.

Bob Starsky

U lack knowledge so let me help you with a few examples of russian aggresion towards Poles and Balts: 1. Russia deny to fulfill treaty of Riga which they are obliged to do by themselves (early 90s). 2. KALININgrad name wasnt changed like other things called after bolsehvik bandit kalinin like e.g. warships. Leningrad and Stalingrad were also changed. Krolewiec not. 3. The illegal soviet base in Krolewiec has no law, historical nor cultural justification. 4. cult of bolshevism in russia, bolshevik symbols are not only allowed but also put to view at official events. bolshevism is about murdering most of poles (enemies of communism) 5. not allowing poland to remove bolshevik symbols from public space etc. etc.

Ricky Miller

The genocide is likely to come from the conflict between Russia and your invited henchman, the USA. By facilitating tension and conflict and bringing outside threat toward Russia you tempt fate. But tens of millions of Russians and Americans will survive a nuclear exchange. They are large countries with geographical space and large resource bases. Poland and the Baltic states, intent on being part of it, have no critical mass, little place to hide and fewer resources to draw on in a nuclear winter. Your security strategies should be exactly the opposite of taking sides and making your states part of the battle space. Survival depends not on try to dwell on the past but in minding the present and protecting the future.

Bigaess Wangmane

Logical and reasonable reply but unfortunately wasted on an ignorant propagandist. If Bob was a reasonable person, he wouldn’t have been born Polish or (((Polish))).

John

Russia can go anywhere it wishes, just like the US.

Bob Starsky

unless it is Poland then Russia has 2 options: 1. burn down their own russian capital and run to syberia 2. get slaughter by Poles, being pillaged and get tsars arrested, humiliated and killed and then get moscow burned down :D

John

Why do the idiots always up-vote themselves?

Baloney troll.

Ricky Miller

Three Yars missiles, six Iskanders and a dozen cruise missiles and there will never be a Poland again. That’s less than 3% of Russia’s strategic capability. You know what Poland is in case of a war where Poland threatens Kaliningrad, which is the only part of Russia Poland actually borders? Minimal tasking, then an afterthought.

Bob Starsky

thx for confirming russia want to invade and destroy central europe. btw russia tried to attack Poland but each time was destroyed. moscow was totally pillaged and burned to the ground twice by Poles. Do russians want it again? btw. this bolshevik base in Krolewiec is Baltic land, not russian and Poland dont border Russia as in the east there are the same borders what in 1939.

Ricky Miller

Oh, no jackass. You issued the threat. I just told you what would happen. And I think you’re in denial about the invention of the entire nuclear age. Your government hasn’t though, as it has busily attached itself to Uncle Sam’s jock.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

The key term is “in case of war”. Do you understand the consequences of global nuclear war? Poland is quite keen for one, it seems.

You can call me Al

Sod off you fool. I am sick and tired of idiotic trolls like you and your other cronies.

slayern2

Polska stronk! Poland can into space! LOL

Polak stupidity and inferiority complexes……. making laughable threats, then whining and crying when Russia brutally kicked your pathetic asses into space. Russians were too good to you actually, 150 years under their rule; Swedes destroyed 1/2 of Poland in just a few years, and yet you love cleaning their toilets today. That’s your only purpose: to serve your western masters and clean their toilets.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

“So why not strike some target in, say, Venezuela? Of course, before any such launch, Russia would fully inform all the countries affected, especially, the USA and use either a dummy or a conventional warhead.” This is not far-fetched. It is an essential step to avoiding catastrophic nuclear war. RF must learn from NK, as most of the supremacist US elite are totally ignorant and are drowning in their own exceptionalist propaganda. The clock is ticking towards nuclear war and unprecedented measures are needed to wake up the violent, exceptionalist and supremacist US elite and the drugged-up Plebs.

jm74

More interested in knowing about the AN124 and IL62. What was transported and who were the passengers.

skinner15

Over a hundred pilots, technicians and ground crew, all aboard to partake in training and aviation exercises with the host nation. As for the transporter, probably spare parts for the Russian equipment sold to Venezuela.

Vince Dhimos

All very well and very cogent analyses by the Saker. But why does NO ONE, incl the Saker or the msm, ignore the other 2 aircraft, the An-124 and the Il-62? Here is the ONLY analysis as to the significance of those aircraft: THE STRANGE NEWS BLACKOUT ON THE RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT SHIPMENT TO VENEZUELA http://www.newsilkstrategies.com/military-affairs/the-strange-news-blackout-onthe-russian-aircraft-shipment-to-venezuela

Sinbad2

You assume Russia was delivering, it could have been picking up? It seems highly unlikely that Russia would deliver S300’s to Venezuela, but medical and mining equipment are possible.

dariuskianersi

vincedhimos gg

hvaiallverden

Yup, forget any conventional war in the image of ww1 & 2, because UssA got stuck on the 70s, like their cars, since then, downhill, with everything from quality to usefullness, this reflects their army, and mindsett. Instead of focusing on Syria, we must never forget that this is an Empire, and they may change the stategy, etc, but never their goal, full spectrum dominance, and all tho leaving Syria and maybe Iraq, dont change much, apart from the war theaters, but this are been realigned to focus on other parts, because eventually and ineviatably, Russia and China is still their target, nothing have changed in that sense, the latest hate propaganda is soaking even the so called alt-right whatever that means this days, of post-truth and facts, where they are piling up bullshit agaisnt China, to an extent that I know isnt an acisdent, its by design, they are really going for the big one this time.

Second, they are even starting to loose Africa, but two hot spots remins, Kaliningrad and the epic cluster f…. called Ukraina, an mayore one, no its not big enough, try something, yess, but again, its not that certain anymore, and whatever the other NATO shitheads manage to drool about the lastest drawback, is for the same reason the wacko leftis and liberals wants never ending wars, weird isnt it, and where is the anti-wars, the HumaNazis, the CarboNazis, huh, where art thu, and Norway the MSM went into panic modus, and our Gov. was not happy, since we loose moooney, from selling weapons, so far, they are glad nobody cares about Yemen, while they whine about Crimea.

The third, is the South-american continent, where they have managed to fil some countrys with their whores, creepy violent scums, hard core facists, hunting down indiginous people and somehow the MSM dont even bother to write about that, because it f…. up their second scam, the AGW cargo cult religion, where they whined about bio-fuel and when they chop down the Amazon rain forest, its dead silent, yeah, no wounder they need to cencure everything. I am afraid, that South-am and the caribien, is the next phase, because the problem remains the same (the MIC), and for the love of God. the economic downfall comes from the banana republic, its their insane corpoRats and an Central bank on acid, that is in deep dodo, nobody else and the ripples from 2008 is what crashed EUropa, incl Belgia, Netherland and France, just take an look at Bail-outs and austeritys, AID programs, to enviriomental scams as the save the rainforet is, its the same operandi modus as the White Helmets, only the focus is changed their scams is the same, to fool us all and the MSM makes shure we know nothing else than this propaganda, lies, forgerys and downright fake science as in the coming storm regarding another massive scam, the Vaccine Ind. Hang em all.

There will be no peace untill the last Banker is hanged with the intestrials of the last Priest. Not an second before. And in the ancient times, to be even consdiered to be an man of intergity and high morale, like an priest should be and behave, then they would be bleeding in the front row of the people, YOU should go forth as an focus point, because eventually its about humanism, truth and justice. The ONLY way the church can ever again rise and revitalize it self from the dungeon they are in right now, incl Isla, is to go in front of the people, that is what Jesus meant with been the herdsman(ok,ok,ok woman to) I want you to bleed for the people, and of course, violence is for the week minded, we all know that. Maybe then even I would bother to waist time in an church, because the spirit have come back.

Walk em down.. They cant kill us all. And I am not any doom nor gloom type, what we have is an dying empire, grasping it last straws, obsolite and sliding into oblivion, and so far, we may hope Trump turns out to be the Man, saving UsA. I never apologize for been stupid enough to hope, because thats all I have.

Have an nice day

peace

adzsiam

But even after reading this piece, it does make sense from a ‘strategic weapons deployment’ point of view. Venezuela would become exactly like what Cuba had become in 62. A potential launchpad for weapons as small as mobile, nuclear tipped Kalibr cruise missiles. I doubt Russia is foolish to push for such a move but the US would certainly push for a ‘Cuban missile crisis’ intervention.. even if its just ‘museum pieces’ flying about.

You can call me Al

No offence, but I think you should read the article again; it is not saying that in my view. If I am wrong, I’ll be the first to apologise.

adzsiam

None taken. Let me apologies too. I should have read it more slowly and thoroughly before commenting.

You can call me Al

Shit happens.

Merry Christmas.

Sinbad2

It could be a Russian way of sending a message to the warmongers, that is you drop the INF treaty, and we could put mid range missiles in Venezuela.

Bob Starsky

Saker is a bolshevik idiot who calls for genocide on Poles and Balts! Why SouthFront still post this pos instead remove him and call the police?!

John

Your post is nonsense. Stop up-voting yourself, while calling everybody else stupid.

Redsky B

This is Russia today, not the Soviet Union. A strong Orthodox Christian nation not seeking war but having to plan for it. It was the same with Germany pre WW2. And from what I know WW1 and WW2 could have been easily avoided if it weren’t for sinister zio forces and profiteers wanting them to be fought. The “whole idea” of today’s US/zio’s seems to be about conquering the whole world . . and for who ? Lucifer. You know – who he is. The one who fathered Cain and who’s descendants are alive and well today.

Bob Starsky

yes, the zio forces back then were bolsheviks and their soviet russia. also “orthodox russia” was seeking war with europe all the time. There were constant wars from Warsaw to Moscow and russia was the aggressor as russia attacked first Lithuania in

1558.

Bigaess Wangmane

Poor Polski, attacked and oppressed by everyone just like their Jewish counterparts, completely innocent of any wrongdoing, always helping old ladies cross the street and winning truth-telling contests. It’s not like they ever had a blood-thristy empire themselves and invaded neighbor states including imperial Russia many times over, attacked and killed ethnic germans in the Danzig Massacre or sided with Nazis to kill undesirables in their land. Nope, not the Pure-as-the-driven-snow Polski!

Bob Starsky

yes, Poles on moral highground. the only big nation free of war crimes, slavery, genocide, religious oppression etc. u need to educate yourself and apologize Poles.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

Since you love ancient history so much, tell us all about how Poland invaded Russia and ruled Moscow, something that the Nazis failed to do. I call this naked Polish aggression that must be avenged today, don’t you? Or do you support Polish imperialism backed up by your new US master’s military machine?

Bob Starsky

educate yourself. russia started the wars with Poland in XVI century by invading Lithuania (partner in Polish Lithuaniana alliance). Poles conquered moscow in 1610, burned down a few years later, also we killed their tsars. just dont fuck with poland, u cant win, u will lose:)

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

Careful with picking fights with greater powers: a hundred years ago Poland was wiped off the map. Do really think the new masters of slave state Poland, the US, will risk their own butts to fight Poland’s 1000 year war with Russia? It is time for Poland and Russia to settle their disputes, just as they were planning to do before that mysterious plane crash in Smolensk. If Poland starts WW3 with Russia, this time, nothing will be left on planet Earth, dear. Time to stop ranting and raving about Russia and face realities. Poland is a small power sandwiched between mighty Germany and Russia. Don’t become the ham in that awful sandwich AGAIN!!!

Bob Starsky

Russia was wiped from the map 100 years ago for 75 years! Also educate yourself about Poland and maps as it was truth fro Kingdom of Poland, not for Poland as we had plenty of Polish states in this time. We even destroyed Moscow again together with France.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

What kind of rubbish do they teach you in NED funded Polish schools, dear? Its like saying England does not exist in the United Kingdom or the massive British Empire. Have you heard of the Russian Empire that morphed into the Soviet Union after the civil war?

Hisham Saber

International Version

John 8 : 44 , pretty much sums it up.

Ricky Miller

Go away. It’s easy to see that the USA is placing bases and military potential near Russia, not the other way around. It’s easy to see that it’s the USA that withdrew from the ABM treaty and failed to live up to the clauses in the Plutonium agreement, not Russia. It’s easy to hear the undiplomatic, hysterical, un-gentleman like rhetoric being shouted about Russia from offical Western sources and media. Russia stepping up her game to defend herself is an assertive and defensive action, which should be expected under the circumstances. The fact that it is villified by the very people trying to back Russia into a corner while also busying themselves at overthrowing governments, invading countries and arresting Chinese and Russian women as hostages and bargaining chips speaks VOLUMES about whom is the aggressor in this day and age.

Bob Starsky

Where have I mentioned USA or China?! I was talking about Russia and Soviets! Do you support russian and bolshevik war crimes and genocide on Poles and Balts you ignoring it?! The fact usa is aggressive is parallel to Russian/soviet aggression towards Poles and Balts/Europe! Damn! USA/UK together (and russia alone in 1939) with russia/soviets invaded Europe and Iran in 1941-45!!! Dude, educate yourself!

Ricky Miller

I have. And you are completely misreading history, probably purposefully. Russia invaded Europe in 1941-1945 after being attacked. And 1939? Russia did what she had to after British and French security guarantees were not honored and a Soviet diplomatic mission to London seeking a common front against Germany was turned away empty handed. Soviet Russia used Poland’s territory to buy herself some space. Hardly noble but necessary for security. Seriously and objectively Poland is no match for Russia in any way and places it’s security in jeopardy anytime it allies itself with a distant outside power. Poland is safe from Russia simply by not being a threat.

Hildisvíni

It is ludicrous to defend USSRs foreign policy vs Poland. It is not something that the current leadership of the Russian Federation does either. For example, Vladimir Putin has distanced himself from the USSR actions against Poland and expressed his regrets. Your line of argument is terribly damaging against both Poles and Russians. And against all other Europeans as well since it cements USAs soldiers position in Europe.

Ricky Miller

Exceptional reply. I had forgotten about Putin’s apology regarding the USSR forceful control of Eastern Europe during the Cold War. A sincere apology and reflection of conduct is something one never hears from American and British policymakers. Certainly not about anything strategic, like the Iraq war. Or the Libyan debacle. Or enabling Saudi Arabia to torment Yemen. Or large scale war crimes in SE Asia and North Korea. On and on…

Ricky Miller

However, defending all of the Soviet Union’s conduct wasn’t my intent. Defending the Soviet policy when faced with the psychopathic Third Reich is something different. They did what they had to do. And Russizns are hardly damaged by the defense as they celebrate their ancestor’s struggle each year during the Immortal Regiment march and in the upkeep of Soviet era monuments to the Red Army. And the fact that the USA has stayed forever in Europe, even after the end of the Cold War, has everything to do with American attempts to control and lord over everything. It has nothing to do with the Red Army, Soviet Defense strategy 1939-1945. And certainly nothing to do with the Russian Federation, beyond the fact that Russia just refuses to roll over into vassalage.

Bob Starsky

Yes Putin said that but nothing was done by Russia to make peace with Poland. E.g. Where are money Russia owe Poland for Treaty of Riga? Kalinigrad, stalinsit symbols etc.

Hildisvíni

Poland is weaker than Russia. It is pathetic to make demands on the back of the American invaders. Make your own peace with Russia according to your own strength instead of being the dogs of the globalists.

Hildisvíni

The Bolsheviks killed more Russians than Poles.

Tudor Miron

Don’t fall into that zio trap. They did everything they could to twist the history facts – that was mensheviks and trotskists (same zio’s) who did the killing. Only reason is that as always (above article is another example) they blame others for their own crimes. BTW, mensheviks (similar ideology) is ruling entire west now :) Menshevik – direct translation would be “minorities ruling majority” – sounds familiar with all that lgbt perversion offensive that is evident in the west?

Hisham Saber

Exactly. And the word Jew plays a big part here.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

How exactly is today’s Russia being aggressive towards Poland and the Baltics? Can we have some facts rather than US/EU/NATO gangster’s Sovietised propaganda?

Hisham Saber

Well said.

You can call me Al

You know a tosser when you find one, by seeing if he up-ticked himself – AS YOU DID.

Please take your shekel and get back to the US / UK / Ukrainian / Polish MSM.

Tudor Miron

“remove him and call the police?!” (c) I though that you require urgent medical treatment but if you insist that only police is capable to calm you down than so be it.

Bob Starsky

tudor miron maybe u live in a shithole but in civilized countries like e.g. V4 countries for such words u go to prison. Notice there is not a single communsit, nazi, bandra or jihadi symbol in their public space unlike in the west or east.

slayern2

The only idiot here is you, dumb polak kurwa. Warsaw was part of the russian empire, then Germany created your pathetic, vassal, shitty little country – to serve them as slaves (like you always do). Try Polish-nazi alliance 1934-1939. Fascist Poland was the first and the most obedient Hitler’s ally until he betrayed you. Cheap and expendable, that’s you. Soviets liberated you bitches in 1944, rebuild entire poland, even gave you german lands… the tallest buildings in Warsaw was built by Russians. Now you have new masters, but you’re still cheap and expendable bitches. I hope they’ll send you to hell next time, with your pedo-popes.

p.s. Q. How many Polacks does it take to change a light bulb? A. Three—one to hold the light bulb and two to turn the ladder.

Hisham Saber

Ouch

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

I see that your still angling for the restoration of the Polish Commonwealth with the help of your new US masters. The US Evil Empire will not sacrifice any US soldiers for Poland’s ambitions to turn the clock back. The Soviet Union disbanded in 1991. It is high time for Poland to settle with Russia instead of trying to ignite WW3.

Bob Starsky

Russia is the one who OWE Poland, not the other way around.

VeeNarian (Yerevan)

One third of today’s Poland sits on German lands kindly donated by Stalin. How does that feel, Bob? Perhaps, the Germans should get that land back? Now, when will you thank Uncle Joe, dear???

Hisham Saber

Blame your ‘ Bolsheviks ‘ on the Jews, who initiated the 1917 Red Terror Revolution that wiped out easily over 60 million. You can also blame the forced famine in the Ukraine in 1936-37 on Jews too. They were the ones who organized, and put it into effect. That wiped out 7 million people. Top Bolshevik Commissars and Cheifs (85%) of them were Jews. The Cheka Secret police were mostly Jews, the Gulag enforcers and bosses were Jews. The Head of the Gulags, a man named Al Frankel, coined the genocidal term ‘ you eat as much as you work ‘ in the death camps, setting off the biggest genocide in human history. Jews were behind Katyn too.

paul ( original )

Thinking about the Saker’s article it occurs to me that may be the USA will up the stakes and engage in its own ‘wake up call’. You see I think it is entirely possible for the USA elite to reason that say a massive missile stick on Iran is just the best way at sending a warning to the Russians. I think the mindset for a preference that a show of force is always the best way to proceed is built into the thinking of the USA elite.

It could be that some other way will be found rather than attacking Iran. But I certainly expect something of this nature to be attempted.

CHUCKMAN

I doubt this seriously.

Why?

Because Iran has worked hard on its missile technology, and it has demonstrated how accurate they can be in Syria.

I’m sure that message was received.

In the event of such an American missile assault, Iran would launch everything it has – and that’s a lot – at a combination of American bases and Israel.

Israel is an especially vulnerable target with its small size and density. A fleet of missiles would head for Dimona, apart from Tel Aviv.

Hezbollah today also has accurate missiles, owing to Iranian technology, and can hit any target in Israel.

I also think the world in general would not accept suchan act. Already, there are serious effects from the US ripping up the nuclear agreement. A large pre-emptive strike would not be accepted, and even the US must listen to its allies when they all shout at the sametime.

Dagnir

Thanks for the links to other articles on your website. I’ve had a day of interesting reading.

Dicksonrp

Brilliant article!!!. Bravo

Nigel Maund

The Anglo American Zionist Cabal (headed up by the Rothschild’s bankster clan) have initiated the last two world wars and all the smaller wars of ‘Regime Change” since 1945. Their rotten, corrupt userous financial system is now st to collapse and indeed is in the process of doing so. So they are utterly desperate for a World War and a reset of their evil financial / userous system before they are identified for the evil criminals that they are hung from the lamp posts from European Capitals to the USA when everyone is reduced to penury by the collapse of their evil system?

CHUCKMAN

The TU-160 demonstration was perfect. A calm message was received without threat.

Indeed, such beautiful, dramatic planes visiting can be viewed much as a port call by a navy capital ship.

The idea suggested here of firing SLBMs at some target anywhere near the United States as a demonstration makes me wonder about the author’s sanity.

That would be understood as extremely threatening.

And, of course, missiles sometimes do fail and go off course, as happened with a British submarine-launched missile not that long ago somewhere off the East Coast of the US.

Such a demonstration would do nothing but seriously fan the flames of Russophobia in the US and likely see the Defense Department get another $100 billion added to its budget.

RichardD

The Saker lives in the US as I do. I’m sure that he’s aware that most Americans have a dismissive view of blatant msm lies and irrational spin. Granted, most of them are unaware of the extent of the Jew part of the problem. But they know BS when they see it. There’s also a generational component to American public perception. At 60 years old, 90% of the American population is younger than I am. And a lot of my memories are their history lessons that they may or may not have ever learned or even be aware of yet. If they ever are.

Sites like SF are important because they allow the truth to be known by readers who otherwise wouldn’t find it in the msm and on Jew edited and moderated internet sites. I’m not and never have been a government insider in the traditional sense of the term. In that I’ve never been employed in government other than the USMC for a short while. But I do provide volunteer input that is taken into consideration and reciprocated. And I keep getting government requests for formal participation in the political process. Beyond an informal and formal credentialed volunteer advisory capacity up to and including at the head of state level.

I don’t share the Saker’s pessimism on the nearness of war at the major actor level. I’ve done enough peace process work in my time to have a pretty good idea of how the war process works. My two or three years of daily work on this site has contributed to the current state of events. Because it gets stove piped by intel agencies and read at the world leader and head of state level. Or read directly off of the site. The same goes for the ET presence here monitoring our social media platforms. Which is in addition to non public reciprocal communications at those levels.

How the Syrian government coalition utilizes this Christmas present from President Trump is yet to be determined. My advise is to stay the current course by expanding the Syrian government footprint in a methodical and progressive manner. To avoid unnecessary or excessive hostilities and to use force in a rational and effective manner on an as needed basis. Until Syrian government administration is reestablished over all of Syrian territory with the exception of the occupied Golan.

And then to participate in a regional UN mandated force with nuclear weapons for the recovery of Israeli occupied territory, including the Golan and Shebaa Farms. That can also police the implementation of additional UN resolutions that Israel is in chronic violation of, and that have yet to be passed, but in all likelihood will be.

occupybacon

But will the USD break the 69 Ru psychological barrier next week?

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