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What a lot of rubbish! It just shows you haven’t the faintest idea of what you’re talking about. I have noted this tendency through all you posts on this site and the pattern is clear. Sure the SAA was on a steep learning curve when it started fighting ISIS with Iranian and RuAF support, but they have been significantly upgraded and learned a great deal on the battlefield as evidenced by their much improved performance.

The Western bank may wait: its total capture is just a matter of time. While getting a fulcrum on the Eastern bank will give some strategic advantage for the SAA.

a banker named Calvi. also, check out the story with the masonic lodge named P2.

I can’t remember a lot of the old stuff, I think Hitler use to call Mussolini the Green Freemason because Goring was snubbed by him when he was reviving the Catholic Church and giving them the Vatican, Goring was a dedicated hunter and Hitler was a wild animal lover, the two are closely connected, he never forgave Mussolini and secretly wanted him to fail militarily because Hitler was very egocentric P2 was a psychological loop that developed out of that, Sid Loder was connected with it deeply, but they treated him like they treated Goring, only his Caren was a toothless fat ogre chain smoking nefarious punishment for Sid, I call them the Brown Freemasons, they gave Sid an apron covered in medallions but nothing to put in his pocket, he accepted being the compassionate giver but it was the stench of the toothless fat ogre that drove him to suicide, although I think it was really his Masonic counterparts played a trick on him.

P2 came out during cold war and was a “parallel” lodge made up of the most influential people in Italy (among them, Silvio Berlusconi), which has always acted as a shadow government, and its main objective was to prevent the Communist Party to become part of executives.

About the Vatican, it wasn’t Mussolini that gave it to the church, the country of “City of Vatican” has existed since roman emperor Constantine donated large parts of the Western Roman Empire to the Church with an act, the “donation of Constantine”, that has been proven forged by modern historians. In practice, the “Church state” has always existed, and is existing, because of a fraud.

Do you agree with this this rough time line.?.1418 ,The Great Schism ,1451 Banking Families got going, 1550, PROTESTANT REFORMATION and the INQUISITION concurrently, 1700, the end of Spanish Hapsburgs and the war of Spanish Successions from then on the Italian AGE OF ENLIGHTENMENT until 1796 Bonaparte and the Italian Republic,1815 Congress of Vienna reinstated Italy’s former rulers and the secret Societies, Nationalism began with the Red Shirts, the north south divide almost became a Republic with Southern control, but Venice was Austrian and France held Rome at this juncture Papal Troops resisted the advance of the Italian Nationalist Army in RETALIATION THE GOVERNMENT OF ITALY STRIPPED THE POPE OF HIS TEMPORAL POWER. The RC church was defunct 1870. 1922 The King asked Mussolini to form a Government.he assumed the title Il Duce,1929 Il Duce signed SIGNED a PACT with Pope Pius X1 declaring Catholicism the soul Religion of Italy and recognising the Vatican as an independent State . The Pope was a done deal washed up, finished, buried in effluent, Musolini reinstated the grub to get the support of the secret societies mainly the Free Masons, Hitler was Protestant and reluctantly made concessions this is the P2 issue , the Donation of Constantine goes back to Attila the Hun mid 5 th. Century, ! nothing to do with the Vatican that I can work out, show me the connection, I don’t say that it’s not there.

the timeline is correct as far as i can tell, there are some clarifications:

– In 1870, units of the Italian army stormed the city of Rome to complete the unification of the country to include the Papal states. Mussolini would reinstate the Papal temporal power over what today is called City of Vatican, basically a small part of the city center.

but more importantly: – the P2 was founded in 1945: Hitler and Mussolini had nothing to do with it. It’s more likely that it was an entity put up by the US and UK intel services to act as a sort of intermediary between the italian elected government and the powers that be in western “democracies”.

Elections would be held in 1948 after the 1946 referendum that abolished the monarchy, and there was the clear feel that the Communist Party could win them (there were voices of people, mainly priests, that were allowed to vote more than once).

The P2 role, although secret, can be ascertained through the actions it committed in its story, in addition to the content of a document found in 1982 at the villa of its boss and founder Licio Gelli (An ex-fascist official that would turn to partisan when things started to look bad).

Everything they have done is in anti-communist function; there is also high probability that they averted right wing coups (which the UK has tried to support even more than the US) that would happen surely, had the communists won any vote in the period 1945-1991.

Probably, they acted in 1993 also, to make sure that Berlusconi could win that years vote: it was very clear that, after the corruption scandals of 1990-1992, the center-left coalition would win by a large margin. In that case, a massive propaganda machine was put in place, to make sure that all the people that formerly voted for Demo-Christians, Socialist and Liberal parties would go to the booths to prevent the Center-Left to govern the country – all those people would not had voted because the corruption scandals – so they got a brand new conservative party (actually made with recycled Center/Center-right elements from previous admins).

The connection? I really wish I could point it out.

There was an apparatus that pulled strings in several different subjects: the Mafia, the Vatican, the Intelligence, Police, Right wing organizations, “Gladio”, the military.

The actions performed by those elements were undoubtely part of a broader strategy defined by a single “head”. All the available evidence points at P2 as that head. Imho, they were put up by Washington and London, and given a single task with ample freedom to fullfil it, to prevent not only the Communists win in elections, but also the participation of them in any executive coalition.

The murder of the DC president Aldo Moro in ’78 by the Red Brigade was a defining moment: he got kidnapped and killed right in the moment when he, along with PCI secretary Berlinguer, were successfully negotiating a ruling coalition that included the communists.

I knew I left out the unification of Rome was symbolic of the Italian State, thanks I will keep all that info. maybe I can use it later to show what was in Sid’s mind, he mever spoke, he would just jesture as something absolute being liberated from a chasm of darkness that somehow clinched everything. That’s why I found so much contentment in David Irving’s Goring and his Nuremberg Trial, particularly when Goring and Carin were in Rome being snubbed by Mussolini, the climax occurred when the partisans caught Mussolini with his lover I have a photo of them both after the event. I think that’s where were going. I saw it as an anti Communist driving force, consider the difference between Mussolini / Stalin = ownership of the means of production. which is sorter the same as Catholic Protestant nailing a schism. Australian Labour party / DLP another one was Sir Joh Bjelke-Peterson I never worked out who his opposite pole was but that was who Sid admired the most, I was always a Communist and left the Young Liberals 1968 to join the Australian Communist Party, maybe I was Joh’s antithesis at that time who knows.

thanks for this interesting discussion.

Thanks for the information.