US Army Installations in Germany
US President Donald Trump said on Monday he would cut the number of US troops in Germany to 25,000 by September, faulting the close US ally for failing to meet NATO’s defence spending target of 2% of GDP.
Mr Trump claimed that Germany is “delinquent for billions of dollars” and said he was reducing the US military presence to roughly 25,000 service members as retaliation “until they pay”.
Germany is the European country where most US troops are posted, with 35,000 soldiers deployed there along with 17,000 American civilians employed by the US military. Some 12,000 German civilians also work in jobs connected with the deployment.
US troops have been stationed in Germany since 1945, initially as occupation forces after the end of WWII and later under the NATO umbrella.
The possibility of a troop reduction has been under consideration for some time. Last August Deutsche Weller reported:
“It is actually offensive to assume that the US taxpayer must continue to pay to have 50,000-plus Americans in Germany, but the Germans get to spend their surplus on domestic programs,” US Ambassador Richard Grenell told the DPA news agency, in comments carried widely by German media on Friday.
His remarks come after the US ambassador to Poland, Georgette Mosbacher, tweeted that her country would be happy for the American troops in Germany to move there instead: “Poland meets its 2% of GDP spending obligation towards NATO. Germany does not. We would welcome American troops in Germany to come to Poland.”
US President Donald Trump had also mentioned the possibility of moving some American troops from Germany to Poland in talks with Polish President Andrzej Duda in Washington in June, something that was also mentioned by Grenell. LINK
There have been several other disagreements between the US and Germany over the last year which may have also been contributing factors, including Germany’s refusal to deploy armed forces to a US-led naval force in the Persian Gulf to patrol the Strait of Hormuz, or to Syria to fight the ‘Islamic State’ terrorist group, as well as strong differences of opinion over the Nordstream 2 pipeline.
Nonetheless, officials from both countries have stated that the move does not represent a weakening of their strategic ties:
Following the president’s comments, German Ambassador (to the US) Emily Haber said US troops are in Europe to defend transatlantic security and to project US power abroad, according to Reuters.
“Our cooperation on military and security matters has always been very close and will remain so,” Ms Haber said during an event hosted by the Council on Foreign Relations, Reuters reported. “US troops … are not there to defend Germany. They are there to defend the transatlantic security. … They are also there to project American power in Africa, in Asia.”
Mr Trump’s latest remarks suggest that the troop drawdown is a form of sanction against the country for allegedly not paying its share of defence costs.
When the pending decision first became known on 5 June, The Guardian reported:
(A) senior administration official said the 9,500 troops would be sent elsewhere: some to Poland, some to other allied countries, and the rest would return home. The official said there was less need for the large contingent in Germany because of overall increased defence spending by the US-led Nato military alliance. LINK
The Independent stated of the decision:
The move, which has not been approved by lawmakers or discussed with Nato or Germany officials, has faced criticism from several prominent Republicans, allies of the president, who have written a letter demanding the president reverse his decision fearing that a slimmer military presence in Europe could encourage “Russian aggression and opportunism.” LINK
The letter to the president was signed by 22 Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee (four Republican members of the committee did not sign the letter)
A report by Reuters comments:
Last week, sources told Reuters that German officials as well a number of U.S. officials at the White House, State Department and Pentagon were surprised by the Wall Street Journal report and they offered explanations ranging from Trump’s pique over the G7 to the influence of Richard Grenell, the former U.S. ambassador to Germany and a Trump loyalist.
“There is sure to be significant bipartisan opposition to this move in Congress, so it is possible any actual moves are significantly delayed or even never implemented,” said Phil Gordon of the Council on Foreign Relations think tank,
“This move will further erode allies’ faith in NATO and U.S. defense guarantees,” Gordon added, saying it may also “weaken the deterrence of Russia or anyone else who might threaten a NATO member.” LINK
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The Americunt arseholes are deadbroke and running an extortion racket to get more money out of the dumbass loser Krauts who have been occupied patsies since 1945. The fat old orange fuckwit Trump want the Kraut arselickers to pay billions more to the deadbeat Americunt economy to keep the rapist occupation criminals in Germany.
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Germany has a positive economic ballance with USA of 100 Billion Euros per year.
It is an occupied colony.
But a happy one :)
I saw it first hand and I would say a sad one with happy numbers
Lawyers and book keepers……………………………
You are witnessing the biggest scam in history with a quadrillion in bank derivates. All 4 Western countries having 80% of the world trade are technically bankrupt. You cant invest in anything anymore that the bankers cant manipulate out of you again.
Notwithstanding the above, you present this stupid figure from some statistic.
Someone needs to tell this to the billions of migrants from the free world that keep arriving in the West, like they wanna be bankrupt or smh
The migrants are brainwashed into believe Europeans are full of money. It takes them a whole life to realize they fooled themselves. Then the riots, rapes and looting starts……LOL.
Still they kedp comming…
Man, I’ve been to Germany for some months and it’s unbelievable how defeated they are, their spirit is broken and their political correctness doesn’t help. Never in my life have I seen so many sad, stressed and insane people as I saw there
I know, they would have preferred Soviet occupation after experiencing the Americunt degenerate savages and thieves. Germany is like a occupied helpless little colony. It has no culture or freedom left, that is why the are depressed and hopeless.
sounds like US society lol
What about Rosa Chleb/Merkel!?
She is cloned for the job by Queen Elizabeth.
So World war 2 occurred! We had Hitler and he was conquering Europe and Russia! Are u saying that Germany is “suffering” after what they caused? Germany is occupied YES! deservedly so! People are still alive who fought in this war! A war that was fought TWICE by the way!
If u had a nation starting wars (debatable) 2 times in 25 years, wouldnt u want to set up bases and make sure they dont do it again?
u cant understand the logic?
Now lets look at the nations who started such wars! Japan and Germany! Where are they now? Are they down the toilet? being oppressed? NO! in fact their economies are top 5 in the world!
of course u occupy Germany and japan for 100 years (at least) Japan bombed the USA in 1945 and Germany wrecked Europe twice! 100 years at least until an entire new generation of thinking is brought about! And another thing….. winner takes all! Winners set the rules for peace! Deal with it!
where do u nut jobs get your views from?
How long did the Soviets occupy nations? huh? What the fuck is China doing with Tibet and Nepal?
Nepal? get with the program.
so from my statement u hand picked Nepal? are u saying u got owned by the rest? actually u are!
As for Nepal, just look at the current crisis on the border between india and China! Look at the map of disputed territories! Look at what China did with Tibet!
i am with the program, its called 1960 (not too long a go) read a fucking book!
Good riddance its only 75 yrs late.
They will not be withdrawing and just scaling back and want more money from Germany to pay for the 75 year old occupation..
Any amount is welcome
The Yanks will not be missed in Germany.
From the map it looks like Germany is totally occupied and the Germans are paying for the occupation.
Germany was after WW2 divided into 4 occupation zones between France, US, GB and Russia ( east Berlin & east Germany. Russia left Germany in 91. The US has closed some of its bases, NATO has taken over the French bases……….. but Germany is still occupied.
EU = South Korea. Same thing. USA military occupied.
Japan as well.
Germany still operates under the ‘Federal Law’ imposed under allies post-1945, post-war Germany has never had its own self created state Constitution, and German politicians essentially don’t dare bring up the topic.
So it’s not removal just reduction so nothing changed.
The US troop increase in Poland and its secret move of nukes from Germany to Poland ( closer to Russia and next to Kaliningrad ) would be in violation with a NATO – Russia agreement and will heighten the actual tension to a boiling point. The US & NATO will spin their violation and blame Russia for being the aggressor and the need for NATO to defend its members.
It is also justify the existence of NATO which is defunct in reality as it no purpose but to provoke Russia and push eastwards of Ukraine.
The nukes are already in Ukraine
if the nukes where in Ukraine, Russia had already reacted.
They moved theirs in Belarus
Russia can sue Nato in court……….eehhh wait.
Trump has simply realised that, since Poland and Romania have joined NATO, Germany has lost strategic importance to counter Russia and is redeploying troops in these countries. The US plan is also to create the so called intermarium, a barrier from baltic to black sea to separate Germany and Russia. This is also why they organised the golpe in Ukraine in 2014. The Nord Stream is a way to avoid the barrier, and that is why the Americans are fourious and they are threatening sanctions.
Let’s see which insurance company is brave enough to ignore American sanctions lol
They are doing it, end of story.
it will be State, i.e taxpayers, insured, just like nuclear power stations.
good post Fantax, yea obvious. West Germany no longer the front line, it has ‘moved forward’ considerably.
Oh oh Russia totally surrounded by US military, or training, bases so getting nervous; Japan, South Korea, Afghanistan, Georgia, Turkey, Ukraine, all the ex Warsaw pact countries, Up in the North; all Nordic countries (Finland NATO partner) and Canada. Scary times.
It WAS scary time. During Obama it was very close. I could feel it. But the attack was finally cancelled 1.3.2018 after Putin’s exhibition.
The U.S gestapo isnt reducing shit, contrary to what it seems in public media, they are expanding to the East.
Gut, wir sind bei Smolensk
With this planned redeployment , the saying “We will fight to the last German ” now will apply to the Poles. People in Poland have no idea what they are in for. “Keep the Germans down and the Russians out” still applies in today’s central Europe.
RIP poland lmao
Ohh noo Poles are pussies that always wanted to be slaves of Russia and Germany
Yes the Poles are going to wealed all over again.
The ex Warsaw pact and reunited Germany had a massive opportunity to become belt of non aligned countries and send a strong message of no more ofd this violence shit, nuclear missiles facing each other off and massive military spending. Would have been a fantastic de-escalation buffer zone between Russia and USA and its Europe satellites.
Remember everyone talking about the peace dividend? The Gorbachev letter to USA proposing to completely de nuclearise the planet that was never answered? The missed opportunites of the fall of the Soviet empire and re unification of Germany have been totally ignored in the media. Shame on the mainstream media and all governments.
Ohh the Poles knows what they are into. Warszawa got smashed 3 times in 3 wars. Call it Stockholm syndrome or machocism, the Poles want it again.
What a massive waste of money. The US is drowning in debt with depression era unemployment. And we’re paying for Europe’s defense as we careen towards bankruptcy. While the Jew slaves in the US legislature compete in a chest beating contest. This is insanity.
i know i wish i lived in some other alternate reality/world or other planet
No worries, Japan will put the sex dools on the market so you can tickle their gummy donut with your wet tentacle
From my experience there’s a technology, IQ and genetic gap between ourselves and the ETs/EDs. Once you develop the technology for travel between solar systems. It can be applied to genetic engineering to change our genetics for better or worse.
Dogs can hear things that we can’t, and birds can see things that we can’t. They live in a somewhat different dimensional construct than we do. Due to their genetics. ETs have different sensory perception than we do. Due to their evolution. Each species lives in it’s own dimensional construct. That doesn’t make interaction incompatible. It just helps to recognise perceptual differences.
The first thing that you need is transportation. Once you can travel to other solar systems. Then you can choose what works for you. Whether it’s better medical care for an extended lifespan and a healthier body. Or a different residence than Earth to live at. It all starts with transportation.
That’s what I’m working on. Getting the transportation capabilities in place.
I’m working on running an overnight contact op soon in the caldera that I tried to get to 3 years ago where I had the encounter with bigfoots at the entrance. After hearing what sounded like a ship field drive. That put me into a different dimensional construct for a few days afterwards.
There’s a disappearing lake there that drains out each spring with an exposed gravel bar that will hold the weight of a 10 story scout or smaller ship.
Recon Drone https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/931c81fa32a98f889bd698d4668bcdeda5b165246f4acf8c72cb5ab8214029ca.jpg
oh i see here now thank you sir
25 min loiter time?! Pointless. How many hours will it take to recharge those batteries?
They’re interchangeable, you can use spares. It’s not like this equipment has to be in the air for hours on an op. If I encounter something that I need to take a closer look at I can put a drone up. If it gets low on juice, this model has an automatic return to home gps function and I can bring it back in and change the battery.
There are gas powered electric hybrids that keep the batteries charged in flight with more air time. But they’re rare and expensive. At 45 mph this one can get out to the issue quickly to take a look. At this stage getting a thermal camera for it is more important than longer flight time. Though picking up some spare batteries is on my to do list.
https://youtu.be/qoWIq2P7zns
wow nice thank you sir what is the range of it and the price?
I bought it new off of Ebay at a firesale price of $150.00 because of a damaged carton. The contents are undamaged. They retailed for $850.00 to $1,000.00.
The range in stock configuration is up to 2 kilometers. Though with flight control transmission modifications and the right operator licensing. The stock model can fly 5 to 10 miles out and back.
These are some of the specs:
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wow i wish to purchase one!!
I’ve bought so much of this type of tech material for contact work. That there’s a substantial learning curve that I have to progress on to be able to use it effectively. Guns, drones, cameras, communications equipment, etc.. It all requires specialized knowledge to be able to understand how it works to be able to use it to design specifications.
It’s better to have it than not have it. But just buying something doesn’t mean that you can use it for what you bought it for until you know how to use it properly. So budgeting not only money, but time for learning skill set development is a consideration.
There’s also the issue of maintaining and retaining these items so that they continue to function properly and don’t get stolen. And having them readily available so that they’re deployable. I moved into a bigger place in January. And am working on organising all of my equipment using the place for everything and everything in it’s place method. Using shelving and locking chests and cabinets. There are hundreds of specialized items. Having everything organized and readily accessible will make running ops easier and more productive.
When you’re dealing with potentially life threatening situations. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It’s important that your gear functions properly, that you have it with you when you need it, and that you’re able to use it effectively. It doesn’t help to have a gun that isn’t sighted in and can’t hit what you’re shooting at at distance or in motion. Or not to have a thermal imaging usb sensor for your phone with you when you encounter non conventional lifeforms and phenomenon stalking or interacting with you in the woods. Because you had trouble finding it and didn’t bring it with you.
true, SAA has been finding that kinda stuff left and right along with all the guns and ammo they captured from rats lol
This is what a collapsing economy looks like. It will take years to recover from this.
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Trump was a bit too smart until March. But the Liberals had a plan and were smarter………..LOL. Biden for President, and Hitlary for Vice………..LOL. If we really want a clean green world with women and gays in charge, all means must be used!
Poor USA people. What a pathetic choice; two geriatrics who should be long retired; Trump has the shakes, Biden has memory problems and cannot control his hands near women. Proof the USA democracy is a puppet show. No one should bother to vote in USA as a part from the show, better than many TV series, it is a waste of time.
more good news hahahah
Note most of US bases are concentrated in Germany’s heavy industrial hearts, Here London and Wall Street are sucking out the hard work of Germany….again.
Yeah cause US soldiers are doing regular raids to colect the goods from the German factories, or at least that’s how Capitalism works.
They are just protecting the Cabals property. Take over some resource in a foreign nation, put up your own military base to protect it. You can only trust people you pay.
Protecting Cabals property against who?
The German people are bunch of people who’s proud to be colonized and occupied,I mean look at the map and be honest. What do you see? I know what I see a bunch of foreign miilitary bases and the german puppet forces don’t even have a base of they own,I men they have share they base with the French,British and the United states of America…I mean that’s not freedom….
The bees are working and the animals of the jungle eat the honey…………………..LOL.
Germany like most of europe is a vassal state and must stop pretending otherwise
Good, America has no business being in Germany. Just need to get the rest to leave now also.
NATO is the biggest threat to peace in Europe, and it’s controlled by Washington.
every US base in Europe is targeted by Russian hypersonics–hopefully they will move their obese incompetent soldiers to Poland, so they can be more easily targeted
Oh, like in Syria? Typical political garbage…