Originally appeared at ZeroHedge
“How will the stocks trade on various election outcomes” remains the most frequent question virtually every bank has been fielding in recent weeks. One of the best summaries of the various President/Senate permutations came from Bank of America which last week laid out “The 4 Election Scenarios For Markets, And How To Trade Them.”
It will come as no surprise that with significantly oversampled polls (a remnant of John Podesta’s strategy which was leaked 4 years ago), a Dem Sweep appears to be the consensus outlook, although quite a few in the market still expect either a Trump win or a Republican hold of the Senate, and even if the “consensus” plays out JPMorgan warns that the 35% or so who expect a Trump win or a could still move stocks even if we get the “consensus” outcome.
Then again, and just like in 2016, the question is “which polls should one listen to”: if one goes off the same popular pollsters who got 2016 so terribly wrong, a Trump victory would be – as Deutsche Bank’s Jim Reid showed last week – the “biggest error in our modern era of mass polling.” Reid was going off the latest RCP poll average which showed Biden’s lead in various polls rise by over 10pp over the past week. Putting that lead in context, and assuming Trump ultimately prevails, the largest error was in 1948 when President Truman won by 5% in spite of being behind by 4.4% in the final polls. As such, if Trump wins, the shock would be even bigger than the historic 9.4 point upset in 1948.
Of course, one doesn’t have to listen to the mainstream polls – which again got 2016 completely wrong – and if instead one picks a non-mainstream poll such as that from Trafalgar Group, which was one of the handful of polls to correctly predict the outcome of the Trump-Hillary race, then Trump will likely win as we reported last week.
But even if one sticks to the mainstream polling, things are starting to move in Trump’s favor.
As JPMorgan writes in its Weekly Polling and Positioning report, for the first time in six weeks, Biden’s national average polling lead declined (-1.7 points), and even though Biden continues to lead polling averages in many of the swing states and saw slight gains in AZ/MI/NC/WI he slipped slipping in FL/PA, with Florida now a dead heat (although as JPM clarifies, if the election were held today, polling averages suggest Biden would win the Presidency and Democrats would gain Senate with wins in AZ, IA, ME & NC.)
Here, however, we should point out a warning issued by another JPMorgan analyst, Marko Kolanovic, who last week had a warning for those expecting a blowout Biden victory: specifically, he found that in the past 4 years, the number of newly registered republicans in key battleground states is greater than new democrats in critical states such as PA, FL, NC and NM.
If Kolanovic’s assessment is accurate, the change in voter registration data shown above would immediately invalidate all polls such as this one from Real Clear Politics showing Biden sweeping across the Battleground states. In fact, while he does not say it, the implication from the Kolanovic analysis is that Trump may well end up winning the critical trio of Pennsylvania (20 Electoral votes), Florida (29 votes) and North Carolina (15 votes). That said, even the RCP average show that Trump’s approval in battleground states is now approaching the highest it has been since the start of August.
Then, in yet another report from JPMorgan published today, the bank’s quant Nick Panigirtzoglou writes that “while it is perhaps true that during the first two weeks of October risk markets were supported by a widening of US presidential odds, which by itself implied a lower probability of a close or contested US election result, over the past week or so these odds have started narrowing again.”
But where things get really interesting is if one looks at the latest just released Investor’s Business Daily poll – which alongside Trafalgar also correctly predicted the outcome of the 2016 election – we learn that the race between Trump and Biden has “suddenly gotten much tighter” as IBD/TIPP’s latest 2020 presidential poll update “shows that Republicans are rallying around Trump, Biden is leaking Democratic support, and the gap among independents has narrowed”, prompting IBD to conclude that the race “suddenly looks like 2016.” As a reminder, back in 2016, IBD/TIPP’s final poll numbers put Trump up by 1.6 points in a four-way race, in line with the final “shocking” outcome.
Specifically, the latest IBD/TIPP Trump vs. Biden poll showed the Democratic challenger leading the Republican incumbent by 2.3 points, 48.1%-45.8%, in a four-way presidential poll of likely voters, and within the margin of error. Libertarian candidate Jo Jorgensen has the support of 3%, and Green Party candidate Howie Hawkins 0.9%.
Since the IBD/TIPP 2020 Presidential Election Tracking Poll launched on Monday, Oct. 12, Biden’s support has slipped 3.8 points, from 51.9% to a new low-water mark of 48.1%. Trump poll numbers have gone the other way, rising 2.4 points to his new high-water mark of 45.8%. Biden’s lead peaked at 8.6 points in the Oct. 13 presidential poll (The daily update of the IBD/TIPP 2020 election poll reflects a survey of 1,197 registered and 1,046 likely voters, from Oct. 15 through Oct. 19. The weighted party split of likely voters includes 385 Democrats, 339 Republicans and 308 independents).
According to the poll, Biden’s narrower support reflects Trump’s gain, more third-party support and more voters who are undecided or decline to say whom they support.
IBD also found that In a head-to-head Trump vs. Biden poll, the Democratic nominee leads by 2.8 points, 49%-46.2%, with Biden’s support slipping 3.7 points since Oct. 12 in the one-on-one matchup, while Trump’s support is up 3.9 points.
2020 Presidential Poll: Party Breakdown
Joe Biden’s lead among likely independent voters narrowed to a 45%-41% margin in IBD/TIPP’s latest 2020 presidential poll update. Biden’s lead had ranged from 6 points into the double digits. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is now having a much easier time corralling Republicans than Biden is having in nailing down Democratic votes. Biden leads 90%-7% among Democrats. Trump leads 94%-4% among Republicans.
Still, the latest Trump vs. Biden poll continues to highlight what could be a big problem for the president: wayward 2016 Trump voters. Among people who voted for Trump in 2016, 7% say they now support Biden while 89% say they’ll back him again. Biden does better among Hillary Clinton voters: Just 3% say they support Trump, while 95% back the former vice president. In addition to faring better among 2016 Trump and Clinton voters, Biden gets more support than Trump among 2016 third-party voters (39%-30%) and nonvoters (57%-31%).
Shades of 2016?
In 2016, almost all presidential polls pointed to a Hillary Clinton victory over Donald Trump. The IBD/TIPP Poll was one of only two election polls credited with predicting President Trump’s 2016 surprise showing. TIPP, IBD’s polling partner, succeeded in picking up on the greater enthusiasm among Republicans for their candidate.
The latest IBD/TIPP Trump vs. Biden poll has some similarities with the Trump vs. Clinton race. Republicans again seem more excited about their candidate. However, Biden’s 4-point lead among independents in the IBD/TIPP 2020 election poll is one important contrast from 2016. Trump carried independents 43%-42% in 2016, according to a postelection Pew Research survey of verified voters.
Seniors and suburban voters helped lift Trump to victory in 2016. Yet the latest IBD/TIPP Trump vs. Biden poll shows the Democrat winning both groups, though his lead among seniors has slipped.
According to IBD, unless Trump reverses his weakness among those groups, he’ll need a somewhat different formula for winning in 2020. Yet events could still reshape the race. The Oct. 22 debate, a coronavirus resurgence as well as progress toward a medical breakthrough, the Supreme Court nomination fight and the fate of fiscal stimulus negotiations could all change minds during the last two weeks of the Trump vs. Biden race. Of course, the unprecedented level of mail-in voting, which brings the potential for disqualified ballots, is a wild card.
Trump’s Electoral College victory in 2016 came despite losing the popular vote by 2.1% — a hair smaller than his current 2.3-point deficit in the new IBD/TIPP presidential poll. However, no candidate has won the presidency with a bigger popular vote deficit since 1874, when Rutherford B. Hayes lost by 3%.
The IBD/TIPP poll is even more of an outlier than in 2016. The RealClearPolitics average of 2020 presidential polls shows that Biden’s lead has grown from 6.6 points before the first debate and Trump’s coronavirus case to 8.9 points currently.
Seniors Are Key Swing Group In 2020 Presidential Poll
Senior citizens are another key group Trump carried in 2016 that have swung toward Biden, but the gap has narrowed. Seniors back the former vice president, 48%-46%, in IBD/TIPP’s latest Trump vs. Biden poll, but his lead had been in double digits. Trump won among senior citizens in 2016, 53%-44%, Pew says.
Meanwhile, Biden is leading Trump among voters age 18-44, 56%-35%, in the IBD/TIPP presidential poll update. Trump leads 56%-40% among voters 45-64.
President Trump is trying to shore up support among seniors, who are far more susceptible to the coronavirus and who have been critical of his handling of the pandemic. After his release from the hospital, Trump pledged that he would provide free access to the Regeneron Pharmaceuticals (REGN) antibody drug that he credits with restoring him to full health. The Trump administration also is getting ready to send out drug cards worth $200 to tens of millions of seniors.
Seniors Are Key Swing Group In 2020 Presidential Poll
Senior citizens are another key group Trump carried in 2016 that have swung toward Biden, but the gap has narrowed. Seniors back the former vice president, 48%-46%, in IBD/TIPP’s latest Trump vs. Biden poll, but his lead had been in double digits. Trump won among senior citizens in 2016, 53%-44%, Pew says.
Meanwhile, Biden is leading Trump among voters age 18-44, 56%-35%, in the IBD/TIPP presidential poll update. Trump leads 56%-40% among voters 45-64.
President Trump is trying to shore up support among seniors, who are far more susceptible to the coronavirus and who have been critical of his handling of the pandemic. After his release from the hospital, Trump pledged that he would provide free access to the Regeneron Pharmaceuticals (REGN) antibody drug that he credits with restoring him to full health. The Trump administration also is getting ready to send out drug cards worth $200 to tens of millions of seniors.
More 2020 Election Poll Demographics
The IBD/TIPP 2020 election poll shows Trump winning among men, 51%-42%, a bit more narrowly than his 11-point advantage in 2016. Women favor the Democrat by 54%-41% in the latest Trump vs. Biden poll update, a bit less than Trump’s 15-point deficit among women in 2016. White voters favor Trump by just under 13 points, but they backed him by a 15-point margin in 2016, the IBD/TIPP 2020 presidential poll update finds. Black voters back Biden, 88%-9%, in today’s presidential poll update. That’s slightly narrower than Clinton’s 85-point advantage in 2016. Meanwhile, Trump trails Biden among Hispanics, 29%-65% in the latest IBD/TIPP 2020 election poll. In 2016, Trump lost among Hispanic voters, 28%-66%.
Finally, there’s this…
BREAKING: “Democrats are poring over early vote totals, circulating anxiety-ridden campaign memos & bracing for a long two weeks," POLITICO is reporting, as Republicans take lead among early & mail-in voting in Michigan & overwhelmingly in TX, as Dem youth vote crashes in PA & WI
— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) October 20, 2020
There’s no race. Biden is just a cherry picked sparring partner. Trump will be elected.
The only person who could possibly lose to Trump was a senile corrupt far right wing Big Business stooge war criminal, so he was put up against him. The “election” was fixed from the start and the so called opinion polls are just part of the theatre. And after Trump wins the Bidenbois will scream “Russia stole the election” again for the next four years until they turn red, white, and blue.
Yes I agree except trump will not be elected by voters he has been hand picked by Israel and their sinister allies.
Biden is doing even worse than Clinton in many ways. His lack of an enthusiastic support base is even worse than here’s was, because she could at least play the feminist card. Clinton has health issues, but they were mostly physical, whereas Biden is clearly going senile.
Since the economy is good (for people who actually work anyway) and Trump is the incumbent, he will win by a landslide. Democrats and the far-left will throw a massive hissy fit, riot and declare the election ‘rigged’ in some way.
Thus, more chaos will engulf the U.S. as we see a repeat of the Dems hysterical actions from the past four years.
Except for the words far left I agree.
There is no left wing in America. Their left is Big Business stooge right wing anywhere else in the known universe.
I was referring to Antifa/BLM etc, if they’re aren’t “far-left”, nothing is.
Depends, clasic left was dedicated to workers class, those antifa, blm, are not working at all, they just want free stuff.
They are politically nothing left. Where are their political manifestos for the advancement of the working class, irrespective of race and creed? Do they have any political stand at all?
antifa/blm= corporate facism 100$ million cia ford foundation 20 million US corporations 50$ million Soros
The election result has already been decided and it doesn’t matter who they picked, the deep state agenda will be pushed through regardless of the results.
Hello and welcome to the White House President Biden. Key difference in polling avg in swing states. 2016: Trump 40%, HRC 45%, 15% other/undecided 2020: Trump 45%, Biden 49%, 5% other / undecided
It looks the same in terms of margin but the number of undecided votes is way, way down. So Sean Hannity, Don Bongino, Limbaugh, Ingraham can have their Trump tailgate rallies and scream, ‘there is a hidden Trump army that is too scared to answer the telephone but wow, look at all of these people wearing MAGA hats at these rallies in public!’
It aint gonna happen this time.
I don’t exactly agree. Opinion polls have always served to me to be transparent malarkey at best and often serious fraud as well.
Opinion polls – nothing personal, just business.
And deducting poolers bias of ~3%?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/de617b599fd5699ff472c94a14697e7a1c7484cc4461246bb4953720d99ce383.png
https://www.infowars.com/posts/giuliani-gives-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-to-delaware-state-police-over-photos-of-underage-girls-disturbing-texts/
Don’t want to be a party pooper, but any other link related to the story?
There is a lot of them at Jones’ sites for source material. Infowars, Banned.video, Newswars, etc.. And the info at the sites can be searched to fact check it.
Stopped listening AJ time ago, his marketing became too agressive, worse than teleshoping and he also changed a lot. Especially around 2017. Probably TRT overdose or something. Even his wife divorced of him around this period. She said he is too ibsessive. Trump left him alone after big tech ban in 2018 despite AJ was his biggest supporter.
So, the chat is not concludent, Biden Jr says the girl made some claims about him and after presured she denied.
Rudy is also not a credible person, he was the second war monger after McCain in 2008 primaries. He denied USA over involvement in ME and claimed Muslims did 9/11 just because ‘they hate our freedoms’. So who knows what underage means for him? I can’t take all of these without a big grain of salt even if I wish to see TV hosts crying like in 2016.
Jones has been sued many times for defamation and other issues and rarely loses. Biden, who’s an attorney, would sue him for defamation if there wasn’t a lot of dirt to cover up. The same goes for Giuliani and Murdock. The pictures evidently can’t be released unedited because they’re child porn and worse. Though they can be released XXX edited. So maybe that’s the way to settle the issue conclusively.
Ofcourse we will never see those pics even if they existed and even if they are all over 18s. But what if Rudy said they are underage just by ‘guessing’?
The pictures from Iraq came out. Right now the preponderance of available evidence indicates that there’s truth to the allegations. You can post links showing that all of the people who’ve seen the evidence and said that it’s daming are lying. From what I’ve seen, nothing has disproved it.
There are more people other than Rudy, who admitted they saw the pics?
Yes, quite a few.
it is not remarkable that many amerikans prefer a cadaver that has been in a coma for 20 years “amerika requires a stupefied population”. C Lasch this stupidity is expected in an empire on the verge of collapse