Turkish Forces Suffer Casualties During Advance In Northeast Syria

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We are not turks you can take the blinders off.

We are pro syrian here. Russia is using turkey to pressure the kurds to the negotiating table, if the kurds are too damn stupid to understand that, they will die.

They(kurds) are beholden to the saudis now, i remember when Al Jubeir visited , with his purse with all the strings attached. The same saudis that funded and supported ISIS.

negotiate with the legitimate syrian gov in damascus is the only choice for the kurds, and its been the only choice for a.long time, wake the fuck up!

if they could’ve they would’ve :) sorry dutch boy

Total SF dead have come to 29. You should be aware by now that the Turkish always multiply Kurdish losses by 5-10 . Also, the narcotics and prostitution rings in Germany are Albanian, not Kurdish.

Please post a video of even a single destroyed Turkish vehicle? Wishful thinking does not win wars. The Turks have performed very well and will achieve all objectives. The Kurds are nothing but posers and a discarded tool of Zionists and Americunt masters who used them and tossed them. Kurd sprinter cowards should franchise condoms now and already are known as pimps..

Zionism=Evil; Fuck the NSA, so now you are a Jihadist supporter?

No I state FACTS, how uncomfortable they are. The Kurd stupid arseholes should have never tried to break up Syria and should have long joined the SAA. I have always known that the Kurd turds will not fight and they won’t. The Kurds are still hosting Zionist scum in Arbil.

Ignorant propaganda. SDC didn’t try to break up Syria. All they have been asking Assad for is a secular constitution and secular laws, which, if Assad had sense, he’d want anyway.

Not true at all. The Kurd arseholes are opportunists and bad ones at that. They worked with the headchoppers and Americunt masters in attacking Iranian and SAA forces from Hakasah. They mistakenly thought that like Iraq in the Arabil region, their Zionist masters will help them carve out Syria and establish a “Kurdish state”, the morons got rolled by Turkeys, pure and simple. The Kurds are fucked every which way and much worse is yet to come. The Americunts are building forces in Saudi Arabia for a regional war, this has a long way to play out.

You are the Americunt, if I read your posts correctly. :D

I am stating facts that will not change. The Kurd arseholes have a saying that they have no friends but the mountains, and you wonder why? Look, the reality is that the Kurds tried to take over a large chunk of Syria taking advantage of the terrorist campaign against Assad. He could have played his cards better too and worked out some sort of a loose confederation, but the Zionists and Americunts wanted a Balkanized Syria and the Kurd arseholes are the patsies, now the idiots have to live with it. Turkey will achieve all its objectives and Syria will have a South Lebanon style Saad Haddad state, unfortunately there is no Hezbollah in Syria which can turf out the Turkeys. For the foreseeable future Syria is no longer a cohesive state and the Turkeys will succeed in installing a quisling government in 30% of Syrian land.

Sorry, I got a phone call, no time to read your reply. Catch you later.

The SDC have been trying to negotiate with Assad from 2014, and that has been well-covered right here in Southfront. They have stated they would accept Syrian sovereignty over Rojava, of Assad would create a purely secular constitution guaranteeing basic rights to all citizens regardless of gender, ethnicity or religion, and a completely secular legal system.

That’s why the American are abandoning them. because they have been negotiating with Syria, and because they have refused to simply be more FSA type proxies. You’ve got the whole thing totally backwards. If they were the subversive terrorists you accuse them of being, we’d back them to the hilt and send more American troops.

In the new global stakes, Turkey a NATO member, G-10 state and far larger and influential country is more important for US, Russia and Europe. Let’s keep perspective, since you are a smart informed guy, the Kurds are just convenient tool and used by all. They got carried away and will now pay the price. They will never have a ‘homeland’. The region is a vipers den and alliances change like the shifting sands.

Most of what you’ve said there is true, except that I don’t think they got carried away. They were offered bad deals by everybody offering one and took the one that looked least bad. And that turned out to be a trap, but taking any of the other bad options wouldn’t have done them any better.

He is americnut, that putting other people down.

You haven’t followed any of the negotiations between SDC and Syria, clearly. Also, the SDF only got into fights with the “SAA” because at this point, and since things fell apart, the SAA isn’t a regular army, it is a collection of militias, and some of those militias local to the Rojava area are fans of the kind of backwards Islamic laws the SDF despise, leading to clashes with SDF troops.

Come again? Where have the TAF performed well? Their advance in the Afrin region was sloppy, and resulted in nearly 700 dead on the pro-Turkish side, and well over 2,000 total casualties, not to mention a scandalous amount of AFV losses. The SDF were getting a 5 to 1 casualty rate against TAF+FSA there.

On which planet is all this happening? From the real reports I get, total Turkish losses are even a dozen yet, while 9 people did die in road accidents across Turkey in one day.

When the TAF seized Afrin in 2016-2017, they suffered 71 TAF dead, and 617 FSA dead, and the usual proportion of wounded, and lost numerous Leopards. It was farcical, considering the numbers and equipment involved.

After they waved Israeli flags in Kirkuk i also lost sympathy for them.

The Kurd arseholes are doing more than just flying Zionist toilet paper flags, they are actively killing Arabs and letting Zionists attack Iranian and Shia militias with drones from Hakasah.

How do you “recognize” child killers who steak your lands?

The people of the Congo did not recognize the Belgians. The people of Algeria did not recognize the French. The people of Kenya did not recognize the British. Please tell me how the Ashkenazi in Palestine is different from other European colonial invaders.

Let’s not forget Vietnam’s occupation by both the French arseholes and Americunts and defeats of both. Kashmir is another festering sore and occupied by Indian streetshitters with Zionist help. These kids have selective memory.

I am happy when i am right, thanks for proving my point.

Take this example, Israel was made based on right for self determination, right of return and so on, as essential points behind its ‘legitimacy’. The same rights they deny to Palestinians. Hamas has long time ago accepted some terms, so did PA longer time ago but it did not stop Israel to even go as far as officially reveal plans to annex the rest of Palestinian territory. BTW i did not counter your statement i just proved how it’s based on double standards – as you’d like self determination for Israelis you also like it for Kurds but you deny it to Palestinians. Selective humanity so to say. The same right is

Actually, the Kurd turds are worse than Zionist scum as they have been collaborating with the Khazars in undermining Arab states and pipe-dreams of craving out a neo-Zionist Kurdistan. The only good thing the idiot Saddam did was to gas the arseholes. The Kurds are treacherous cowards and will back stab anyone who feeds them.

It happens to be that the Kurds where there already and a bunch of ,everything, invaded and occupied their country and oppressed them, and now those nitwits* what to dilute their culture. * look at the last scientific studies revealed in the better Turkish newspapers last week : geneticaly there are no Turks only mixes of everything els.

You are better off sticking to what you know or else you look ignorant making statements that are not true. Who came from where and when and occupied Turkish territory? There is in fact Turkish DNA but no Kurdish DNA and all the Kurds who did their DNA test were very surprised and shocked that their DNA was Iranian.

Middle Eastern

Algeria – Armenia – Azerbaijan Bahrain – Cyprus – Egypt – Georgia Iran – Iraq – Jordan – Kuwait Lebanon – Libya – Morocco Saudi Arabia – Syria – Tunisia Turkey – UAE – Uzbekistan – Yemen

European

Ashkenazi – Austria – Balkan – Belarus Belgium – Czech Republic – Denmark Estonia – Finland – France – Germany Hungary – Iberian – Iceland – Ireland Italian – Latvia – Lithuania – Luxembourg Netherlands – Norway – Poland – Russia Sardinian – Slovakia – Slovenia – Sweden Switzerland – Ukraine – United Kingdom

https://blog.23andme.com/ancestry/23andme-updates-ancestry-composition/

Silly women, proof it you can not but I xan proof that there is no such thing as a Turk; DNA-based tests shake Turks’ beliefs in their “Turkishness” Popular DNA tests are troubling Turks and shaking belief in their “Turkishness” as they find that, instead of being direct descendants of the Seljuk and Ottoman hordes who surged into Anatolia from Central Asia a millennium ago, they are instead part of the kaleidoscope of peoples who have lived in what is now modern Turkey and migrated there since time began.

Identity has been a major issue in Turkey since the republic was established in 1923 from the ashes of the multi-ethnic, multi-cultural and multi-lingual Ottoman Empire as the new nationalist rulers attempted to stamp a single Turkish identity on the country. Until 2008, denigrating Turkishness was punishable by up to two years in prison. The law has now been changed to replace the word Turkishness with “the Turkish nation”.

Issues such as what had happened to the survivors of the 1915 Armenian genocide and the presence of thousands of Greeks and Jews, but also millions of Kurdish citizens of the new republic were swept aside in often heavy-handed attempts to assimilate minorities or pressure them to leave the country altogether.

Home DNA based testing kits are banned in Turkey, but many Turks abroad have used them, sending a small sample to a lab and receiving a report on their ethnic roots and sometimes matches with distant relatives around the world who have also taken the test.

Gül Çelik, a designer, said she had taken the test 10 years ago, but the company she used had been continuously updated information on her genetic links as more people had taken the test. Çelik said the tests showed she had Mongolian, Italian, Jewish, Greek, and Armenian ancestors.

She said her family, from the northeastern province of Bayburt, had refused to believe that they had had Armenian, Italian and Greek links. “I told them the test was scientific, but they did not even want to listen,” she said.

But before the genocide, in which more than a million Armenians were killed or died of starvation in forced marches into the Syrian desert, there was a relatively large Armenian population around Bayburt, in what was then the Ottoman province of Erzurum.

Historians say that as the mass killings and deportations gathered pace, many young Armenian women were taken by local Turks and Kurds, or handed over by their families in order to save their lives, and that they then changed their religion and hid their roots.

“Before this test, we believed that Bayburt had only Turks. But people get married, they change religions voluntarily, or by force, they mix. Maybe my grandmother knew about it, but did not want to say because of social pressure,” Çelik said.

The reaction of Çelik’s family is similar to many. A 2012 book by Fethiye Çetin, a lawyer, tells the story of how she discovered her grandmother’s hidden identity and sparked a big debate about the Islamisation of non-Muslims. Another book named “The Grandchildren”, which Çetin wrote with academic Ayşe Gül Altınay, provides a collection of intimate, harrowing testimonies by the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of what are known as the forgotten Armenians.

But unlike her relatives, Çelik welcomed her DNA results. “In foreign countries I saw that Jews, Armenians and Assyrians who were born and raised in Turkey culturally are not much different from the Turks. In fact they are similar. Therefore I was happy with my DNA results as I am not a discriminative person,” she said.

Çelik also got in touch with one of her distant Italian cousins thanks to the test.

“He told the story of our Italian ancestors from the 1600s. According to him, some 100 people were brought to the Ottoman territories as slaves and so one of those 100 people was our ancestor,” she said.

Çelik said her husband’s test results were equally surprising. “Test results showed that my husband is Jewish and from the Cohen lineage. He had never heard such a thing from his family before. He has no Jewish relatives. He was raised as a Muslim,” she said.

The history of the Ottoman Empire and modern Turkey are reflected in the complex ancestry shared by present-day Turks. As the empire collapsed, there were huge flows of Muslim refugees from the Balkans and the Caucasus, then after the republic was founded in 1923, Greece and Turkey carried out a population exchange, swapping the around a million Orthodox Christians of Anatolia for hundreds of thousands of Muslims and Turks living in Greece.

One woman working as a mathematics professor in the United States said her family was from Turkey’s Black Sea region. The woman, who declined to be named, said her DNA test turned up a distant cousin in Ecuador. “I later checked and learned his father was from Moscow. I knew that my father’s cousin had migrated to Moscow. There he got married to a Russian and with their children they later moved to Ecuador,” she said.

The mathematician said the test said she was 20-percent Greek and 20-percent Armenian. “We are society of descendants of a large empire,” she said.

A report in the journal Annals of Human Genetics in 2012 indicated the paternal ancestry of those living in Turkey was 38 percent European, 35 percent Middle Eastern, 18 percent South Asian and only 9 percent Central Asian. But DNA tests sometimes throw up even more surprising results.

Aslı Muzde took the test in an attempt to learn whether she was genetically predisposed to getting cancer.

“But about ethnicity, I learned that I was 73 percent Central Asian. But the other distributions surprised me. Because I learned I had Italian and Greek blood, but what struck me most was learning that I have between 1 to 2 percent Native American blood,” she said.

Muzde’s family also reacted negatively to the test results, but her mother showed some interest after she learned the test followed the maternal line.

“I became acquainted to my third-degree cousin,” Muzde said about the sudden discovery of a relative living in Germany. “My guess is when my great grandfather came from Greece, they came as three siblings, but lost one. This cousin is the grandchild of this lost sibling,” she said.

“I became more interested about the problems of Native Americans,” Muzde said. “You see that you are only arm’s length away from all the races. The blood running in our veins is connected to each other, therefore there is no such thing as us and them.” NO TURKISH DNA

swj for ever the yankee!! me syrian ok

Well, fair enough, but I still have no idea what your previous sentence meant. Also, I think you meant ‘SJW’ rather than ‘SWJ’. Also, believing in equal rights, or having enough knowledge of history and psychology to know that women are perfectly effective soldiers does not make one an SJW.

Fair enough, but I still have no idea what your previous sentence was supposed to mean. Also, I believe you meant ‘SLW’ not ‘SWJ’. And no, believing in equal rights, not sexist anarchisms, and knowing enough military history and psychology to know women make perfectly effective soldiers does not make one an SJW. The world isn’t black and white.