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NOVEMBER 2024

Two U.S. Fighter Jets Intercept Iranian Passenger Plane Over Syria

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Two U.S. Fighter Jets Intercept Iranian Passenger Plane Over Syria

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On July 23rd, an Iranian civil airplane from Mahan Air was flying to Beirut, Lebanon, when it was intercepted by two US fighter jets, according to Iranian state outlet IRNA.

The pilot of the Iranian plane claimed when he contacted the pilots of the fighter jets to ask them to keep distance, they had said that they were American.

Although the Iranian plane finally landed in Beirut Airport, some of its passengers were immediately taken to hospital.

Lebanese officials said the Iranian aircraft landed in Beirut.

“All the passengers are well, but some suffered from minor wounds,” Beirut airport chief Fadi al-Hassan told Lebanese broadcaster New Television. “Mot suffered from shock and fear.”

Syrian state outlet SANA reported that the fighter jets were American and had took off from an air base in Syria.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Abbas Mousavi said that investigations are underway about the incident.

Mousavi said that after completing information about the incident, Iran will take the necessary political and legal measures in this regard.

He also said that Iran’s Permanent ambassador to the United Nations Majid Takht-e Ravanchi has talked with the UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. He stressed that if the incident repeats itself on the way back home, the US would be held responsible.

Initially, Turkish state outlet Anadolu Agency reported that the passenger plane had been intercepted by Israeli fighter jets above Syria.

PressTV also reported that Israeli fighter jets were involved.

The plane was flying close to Syria’s border with Lebanon and was “dangerously approached” by the fighter planes, forcing the pilot to descend sharply to avoid a crash, reports said.

Following the incident, US Central Command admitted that it didn’t involve Israeli fighter jets, but US ones.

The F-15 “conducted a standard visual inspection of a Mahan Air passenger airliner at a safe distance of about 1,000 meters (3,280 feet) from the airliner this evening,” said Captain Bill Urban, a senior spokesman for US Central Command.

“The professional intercept was conducted in accordance with international standards,” Urban added.

US officials said the F-15 had maintained about 1,000 meters distance between the aircraft.

“The visual inspection occurred to ensure the safety of coalition personnel at At Tanf garrison,” Urban said, referring to a strategic US ground presence in Syria. “Once the F-15 pilot identified the aircraft as a Mahan Air passenger plane, the F-15 safely opened distance from the aircraft.”

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Zionism = EVIL

This was quite expected as I wrote yesterday, the Americunt cowards are incompetent and unskilled thugs and are getting desperate as their policies in the region and the world are in shambles. Iran and its allies now need to get more aggressive in Iraq in particular where these lardass arseholes are most vulnerable and desperate. What kind of a low life pilots endangers the life of civilian women and children? but then the Americunts and Zionist scum have history of killing civilians and these desperate acts will get worse until November.

Lone Ranger

Iran Air 655…

Zionism = EVIL

Indeed. When these arseholes lose, they get more desperate. As the Americunt streets implode they will divert attention by atrocities overseas. As I said yesterday, Russian position is hardening and the Kremlin spokesman strongly stated that the Americunts must leave Syria and Iraq. A Russian friend of mine who has pretty good grasp of their policy, told me the Russians are getting fed up with Zionists and will use the S-400 soon.

Russia calls on US to stop occupying Syria and Israel to end attacks

Lone Ranger

It could be a Hot November…

Zionism = EVIL

From my understanding, Russia will supply Iran with aircraft and SAM systems first to get the message across. Lavrov has told the Zionists that if they don’t stop the useless raids on Syria, Russia will shoot them down. After that the pressure on the Americunts will grow in both Syria and Iraq as Iran has nothing to lose now as it can count on both Russia and China. The Chinese are investing even more in Iranian economy and military.

Lone Ranger

Im only worried about tactical nukes… Israel wont be able to defeat the combined air defense of Russia, Syria, Iran, but they could sling a few nukes, that would be really bad.

Zionism = EVIL

Nukes are useless and they are a suicidal measure, remember Iran, Russia and China are huge countries and can withstand anything, while the Zionist entity is a one bomb job and it is all over.

Lone Ranger

Yeah lets hope cool heads prevail.

Zionism = EVIL

I believe, the Americunts and Zionist will try to provoke Iran in the next 4 months out of sheer desperation, but Iranians by nature are strategic thinkers and very cool like the Chinese and bide their time and will strike when the time is right. In the meantime the Americunts on the ground will be targeted more robustly. The Americunts are in a very weak position as they head into a civil war and major rioting in November. Iran just needs to play it cool and keep strengthening its economy and military. The Chinese are doing the same.

Lone Ranger

Yeah, Americans are a bit delusional. They were more realistic even during the Nam era.

Zionism = EVIL

The stupid arseholes are facing multiple challenges, their economy is dead, military bogged and rioting in the street. They could outspend the USSR on weapons as the Soviet economy was weak, but China is a different dragon with the largest economy, unlimited Forex reserves, and huge population and can fuck the Americunts everywhich way. China is building a very strong Eurasian alliance system, It has military alliances with Russia (a major military tech provider), Pakistan (a nuclear armed ally), Iran a strategic and economic partner, a neutral Turkey and growing influence in Syria, Iraq and ex-Soviet Muslim stans. The Americunts are literally fucked.

FlorianGeyer

That was before the era of Pay to Play video games where the ‘Murrican’ is usually the hero that the US consider to be reality :)

christianblood

It would be totally unwise to throw nukes at people like the Russians if you live in a tiny glass house!

The Objective

Pressure and resistance doesn’t get the U.S to back off. Afghanistan should be the best example.

There are only two ways of getting the U.S out of Syria: Diplomacy, or a war that the Americans loss in the field. In other words, engaging them in talks or obliterating them from Syria by force of arms.

Cromwell

You can’t talk to them until they are bleeding and on their knees,the Vietnamese will tell you that.

christianblood

Liberate Idlib from the terrorists and the americunts will leave.

Jim Allen

Not necessarily.

Cromwell

I heard that a long time ago,problem is they have called Russia’s bluff,it will take several Israeli aircraft in flames before they really get the message.

Zionism = EVIL

I know, Putin is widely disliked in the military and increasingly by the public in general now, he is a Zionist Oligarchs tool and basically an uneducated idiot. He was just an unknown KGB major with no real overseas experience, let alone foreign policy. But the Americunt agenda is to kill Russians now, so the military will have to respond.

<>

Anyone brave enough to shoot at our jets wlecomes to do it, but don’t cry for the consequences.

Jimmy Jim

KIKES TO THE OVENS!

Garga

Well if your jet pilots were brave enough they didn’t shoot from Lebanese airspace under radar shadow of the mountains, did they? Like somebody taking a selfie in front of the lion enclosure in a Zoo while throwing peanuts at it and feeling brave.

The next one which is really brave and enters Syrian airspace finds out what is the difference between a country without any kind of air defence whatsoever and one with.

The storks did it, from side!

christianblood

It would be unwise to throw rocks at others if you live in a tiny and vulnerable glass house!

Jim Allen

Oh, shut the fuck up stupid.

guest

Putin is the problem.

Ashok Varma

US is an outlaw failed state, since January it has engaged in a covert war against Iran, it assassinated General Soleimani in a UN acknowledged war crime and has planted bombs, and when all failed it is now targeting civilian airliners.

The Objective

The Russians have made this call before. Russia will avoid a war with NATO as much as possible. That’s the reason it doesn’t engage Turkey more aggressively in Syria. Russia’s best chance to solve the Syrian war is to engage the Americans in negotiations. Diplomacy has a better chance of keeping Assad than war.

Russia is hopelessly outgunned by the US and NATO in the Middle East. Syria is just one bridge from Europe through Turkey.

This Syrian war will continue as the U.S relentlessly squeezes the Assad regime’s economy. Russia cannot afford to sink more $$$ in Syria for too long. It’s economy is in trouble too.

I expect a diplomatic solution only when Russia decides it has spent enough resources propping up the Assad regime. Iran is also in a delicate situation economically. If Moscow and Tehran were to cut funding, the Assad regime will fall within months.

Jim Allen

A diplomatic solution will not happen. US Government has made that clear. Russia has stopped WWIII from starting, and continues. Russia understands it will eventually be forced to take offensive action, and is preparing to do just that. All of you have zero appreciation for strategy. Execpt Lone Ranger. Russia is the strategist in the group of allies in the Middle East, and other regions. By consensus. It cannot be said the countries allied with Russia, are prepared to go to war on the scale the Zionist Khazar criminal Banking Cabal is pressing. Defeating US Government will not answer your problems, despite my wanting our beloved Government to be. Russia has the West tied up, and unable to move much, at present. This costs the Cabal money, and drives them crazy, raising their anxiety to a point they’re blundering, badly. Attempts to cause Russia to overextend it’s military, and deplete its reserves, to either attack, or force Russia into borrowing money to fight a war. Russia will not borrow to fight a war. It also must look to it’s own interests in order to continue to the provide assistance it is now. What Russia spends keeping the Middle East able to defend itself is out of pocket, payment doesn’t cover the bill. Yet here y’all are bitchin’ about Russia, impugning it’s integrity, and that of Putin himself, ’cause he ain’t doing what you think he should. It’s clear you’ve no idea what’s going on beyond the end of your noses, or understanding what you do see. Not to impressive.

The Objective

I understand that Russia exercises great restraint with regards to America’s provocations. And that is a really good thing for Russia to do. It can’t afford a major war now. But you seem to misunderstand my comment. I was answering someone, and I am not advocating for war between the two powers in Syria. But I think Russia’s strategy isn’t going to work out in the long run. What you haven’t answered in you long rebuke of my comment is, “how does Russia intend to end the Syrian war?” Obviously, it is bleeding Russia financially. What if America refuses to reach any agreement with Russia regarding Syria?”. How will Putin handle such a scenario?

Russia is highly unlikely to fight the U.S over Syria. It isn’t worth the cost in blood and treasure for Russia. In the end, Russia will be forced to make a deal with the U.S. to end the war.

Jim Allen

Russia’s strategy is effective for now, it’s changed several times already, and will change as needed. Syria isn’t Russia’s long time allies, only concern. It’s looking way ahead in a geopolitical kind of way. This is the main thing it opposes the Globalist Cabal on. All the rest is an extension of the political will of on both sides. Russian military is capable of destroying US/NATO’s ability to prosecute war, possibly to defend themselves. As a stand alone country. What Russia can’t do is sustain a war of attrition. US Government is owned, and backed by the Zionist Khazar criminal Banking Cabal, and assets are said to be 550 trillion dollars. The Cabal is doing everything it can to run Russia out of money. The was US foreign policy forced Japan to either fight, or starve. US Government has served the Cabal since the 19th century. Putin isn’t about to let that happen. I think Russia will eventually engage the West, but I doubt it will be in a manner it will expect. Russia is in a position it must supply it’s allies with military hardware, keeping it upgraded, and supplying ordnance. Much of this is being paid for some is financed. There’s no way to know what is, and what isn’t. Stockpiling weapons is probably the big hang up. Russia isn’t in the habit of abandoning allies, Syria is a long time ally, Iran is a longer time ally, 1,500 years give, or take. Russia is unlikely to abandon allies. Russia has more options to reach it’s objectives, and knows the weaknesses of the Cabal, it’s exploiting some of these now. I agree, Russia will have to fight, US Government has blocked any negotiations permanently, and will destroy the world before it surrenders. Neutralizing US ability to destroy the world,which Russia can do. It’s the stockpiling of weapons to do this. It doesn’t need to shoot down every nuke launched, there’s a better way. Putin laid out Russia’s strategy at a press conference held for this purpose directed to US Government. Stated exactly what Russia would do, and the locations it will do it. Russia changed it’s Constitution in part to prepare for offensive war. These, and other actions indicate Russia’s intentions. Russia is not in the habit of lying. Putin was in with the Cabal, with Russia. He pulled Russia, and himself out of their Globalist agenda. Since that time Putin’s actions have been decidedly opposed to the Cabal. I’m not seeing Putin as controlled opposition for the Cabal. He’s gone far beyond any chance that’s a possibility. Further than Iran. There’s the overlying issue that the Zionist Khazars hate Russia’s guts. Are determined to destroy Russia, and the same thing applies to Iran. Russia has motivation to not allow this to happen.

The Objective

Russia’s policy is effective only if it succeeds in keeping Assad, Sisi, and Haftar in power. Right now Turkey seems to be building more support on the minds of Muslims. This tells me Erdogan has a fixed intention to fight the battles in Libya and Syria for as long as Turkey can sustain.

Now let me tell you what happens when these three dictators (Assad, Sisi, and Haftar) fall. Russia will be left in the cold, facing unfriendly governments in the Middle East, except for Iran and Iraq (If Iran manages to get their man to rule Iraq). Every Muslim government will close its doors to Russia. Even America’s puppets will disown Russia at America’s request. Imagine how this will impact the Russian policy of countering the Globalists.

Russia should never have made the mistake of siding with Sisi and Haftar. These are both Western agents. The U.S is letting Russia do the dirty job of propping up its puppets (Haftar and Sisi) who will both later betray Russia. I have a question for you: do you think Sisi and Haftar will defy the U.S to please Russia? America can sanction their economies to recession, stir up domestic problems for them, and strangle them through many ways.

So if America tells Sisi and Haftar we want you to show the Russians the gate or risk our wrath. Do you think these thugs will have a second thought about doing that?

But what if Russia had sided with the Majority in these countries? Don’t forget the MB won in Egypt’s elections. The U.S will be forced to protect and fight for Haftar’s forces, and hence, run counter to Turkey. Would that not have benefited Russia?

Well, the U.S certainly played Russia here. Putin is protecting America’s men who will ditch him later when the job is done. You think that’s a good idea? Notice how the U.S and Europe do very little to stop the fighting in Libya and Syria. It serves the interest of NATO perfectly. First, it pulls Turkey back from it’s drift towards Russia. Then it spares the US the human, financial, and diplomatic costs of propping up dictators that the overwhelming majority of the Muslim world despise.

In conclusion, whichever way the pendulum swings, Russia will lose.

The Objective

Man, you are missing a lot here. For starters, even though I have no love for the American empire, I know for certain they have some of the best-trained pilots in the world. I mean, these guys have been fighting wars since the early sixties. They have more experience in dog-fights and airstrike missions than any country – including Israel. There is no doubt that the U.S wields the deadliest force on the planet. Ignoring this fact will only lead to poor planing to confront them, and humiliation and panic when they crush your armed forces in ways you never expected. Iran is certainly aware of this fact, as seen in its very limited and symbolic retaliation for Soleimani’s assassination. Soleimani was second ONLY to the Supreme leader.

Secondly, your opinion that Iran and its proxies should respond more aggressively is exactly what Trump and Netanyahu are hopping for. They want an Iranian retaliation that kill a large number of Americans whether military or civilian. Trump desperately wants an excuse to fight Iran. Should he start a war without any major provocation from Iran, the American public will force him to reach a ceasefire, especially when American casualties start piling up. They are even likely to force Trump to resign. It happened before.

To me, If the Iranian regime wants to survive another one year, they must put up with these American provocations and only respond below the threshold of really angering the American public. Hopefully for them, Trump will leave office come January 2021. If Trump wins, the chances of a full-scale war is 98% by my estimates.

christianblood

(..the Americunt cowards are incompetent and unskilled thugs and are getting desperate as their policies in the region and the world are in shambles. Iran and its allies now need to get more aggressive in Iraq in particular where these lardass arseholes are most vulnerable and desperate. What kind of a low life pilots endangers the life of civilian women and children?..)

Very well-said, indeed! Mafiosi americunts are indeed incompetent and unskilled thugs.

U$A a mafia state.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Skyw2TH29s&feature=emb_logo

Alberto Garza

over damascus? lol….israel controls the airspace over damascus ! i guess the s-300 operators were taking a nap or smoking when this happened.

Lone Ranger

Yeah shooting down U.S. jets is a stellar idea…oh wait…

Zionism = EVIL

As I have explained before the flight corridor over Syria, then Iraq and then Mehran and northest is very narrow and congested and use of SAMS in such a narrow flight path is insanity, only an dumbass incompetent dehumanized Americunt arsehole or a Ukrainian shithead would do. The best is to deplete the bastards on the ground.

swedish_viking

We got a big civilian airliner in the air and 2 relatively small F-15 that didn’t open fire, lets fire some surface-to-air missiles into the mix. That wouldn’t help anything only endanger lives. Or what did you wish that an S-300 operator would have done?

Lone Ranger

I dont see the point of this intercept. From 1000m they cant tell if there are passangers onboard on not. Aside from that if thats true why did the Iranian pilot make a rapid descent, passangers were panicking. Somebody is lying…

BMWA1

Pilot may be realized these were military jets us forces HAVE hit civil jets DELIBERATELY…he was careful…

Zionism = EVIL

I have flown for over 30 years and have engaged in many visual inspections. You simply call on the aircraft and pull over at the same altitude at a safe distance of at least 1000 meters, what kind of an arsehole punk pilot performs stunts in front of a civilian airliner? The Iranian pilot did a very brave thing for a large cumbersome airliner to increase altitude to get out of the Americunt morons flight path and jet wash or the plane would have crashed.

Zionism = EVIL

It is just cowardly intimidation and illegal thuggery in international civilian flight corridor.

cechas vodobenikov

these amerikan cowards scurry away from Russian fighters; apparently they finally found an unarmed passenger jet that is slow enough and safe enough for these girls to intimidate

Zionism = EVIL

The flight mostly had women and children as you can hear from the screams and video. Americunts are pathetic totally cowardly cunts.

The Objective

I have to correct you man. America is certainly an evil empire, but it is not a cowardly country. The ONLY THING stopping this war is the anti-war public opinion prevalent in America today. Should the American public demand a war on Iran like it did with Iraq, The U.S military is more than willing to undertake that task. The assassination of Soleimani should be a wake-up call to those who think there is no willingness in the American leadership to got to war with Iran.

To me, all these provocations are aimed at goading Iran into doing something foolish that will tip public opinion in America in favor of war.

christianblood

The diaper-wearing, transgendered cowardly US army knows that Iran is not Iraq. they understand what they are going to be up against if they are foolish enough to miscalculate against Iran. George says it well in the clip below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPOfWSvS2V8

The Objective

Then how do you explain the assassination of Soleimani? Surely, that is more than enough provocation to invite Iranian fury. But not even a Single American died as a result. If it happened, Iran never openly admitted it in fear of tipping public opinion in America to favor war. When you back down, it’s clear for all to see.

christianblood

The assassination of Gen. Suleimani gave Iran some huge global diplomatic support and that the whole world knows today that the US is indeed a dangerous and unstable mafiosi state! Iran has already won without going to war in that the americunty occupiers are unable to sleep in peace in Iraq today and definitely that will not be the end of it.

The Objective

The world knows of American evils long before now. America does not have to kill Qaseem Soleimani for the World to realize that the U.S is a danger to World peace. A polls by PEW research institute once asked Americans to say who they think is most likely to start WW3. over 60% said America is most likely to start WW3. Soleimani is just one of over 20 million killed by America since WW2.

Iran hasn’t won a damn thing. People sympathize with Iran, but that doesn’t help as no one is willing to die for them.

America is still in Iraq. Should Washington be sufficiently provoked by PMU attacks (perhaps killing scores of American soldiers) the U.S is certain to level much of what the PMU has on the ground. That’s why we see meaningless rocket attacks that only amount to a waste of Ammunition as it hardly kills or destroy any American property.

The issue with Iran is that they talk far more than they are willing to do. That humiliates everyone who has confidence in them.

christianblood

Iranians are wise enough not rush a conventional war with the big US bully, Iran knows it should avoid that kind of war at this time but if provoked further, Iran can strike asymmetrically and painfully the US occupiers and its local allies in the region and beyond and the cowardly US knows this very well. Besides, a US aggression against Iran can to lead to huge and destructive unattended consequences which can have a far-reaching consequences for the whole world and surely Russia and China won’t sit this one out and will involve in one way or another. Besides the US occupiers and its terrorist allies will never invade Iran, they may throw some bomb here and there but they will never invade Iran. That is for sure.

The Objective

You’ve made some important observations here. The fact that Iran possess some certain deterrent power that will force any aggressor to think twice before starting a war with Iran. However, I disagree with some points you made about the Iranian leadership. You call them wise. Well, I think they aren’t playing things wisely, and here are my reasons.

(1) They showed their hands too early. This mistakes starts from Khomeini himself. The revolution was scarcely two years old when Khomeini started pushing for a similar revolution in Iraq. That led to the Iran-Iraq war that cost hundreds of thousands of lives and cause the Sunni-Shiite rivalry to skyrocket in the Middle East. Khomeini could at least have waited and stabilized Iran before attempting to export his revolution to Iraq. That impatience cost his country a lot.

(2) The Iranian leadership is mouthy. They have little control over what officials and military generals should speak in public. They have issued many threats against Israel. Those threats gave Israel an excuse to push for mounting international pressure on Iran. If not for the threats, Israel will find it difficult to convince anyone that Iranian nuclear weapons is an existential threat to the Jewish state. Secondly, their threats also made the Americans preempt a war of attrition against Iran. You don’t keep threatening to push the U.S out of the Middle East and expect them to watch you attain the power to do so. They surely will fight you as best they can to prevent that eventuality.

(3) They want to play the Islamic heroic nation, but betray their intention with certain actions. I keep saying it that many people do not understand the Iranian leadership. To fully understand and predict their actions and reactions, one much observe them through the lens of history. I mean the Sunni-Shiite rivalry. Their attempt to gain admiration from the Sunni Muslim world for standing up to America has largely failed. This is largely due to their actions in Sunni countries.

For example, they fought Iraq over sectarian issues. They also nearly fought Afghanistan over sectarian issues. They nearly overthrew the Bahrain monarchy (not that I support the U.S puppets, but a U.S Sunni puppet is better than a Shiite rule, for most Sunnis). They select which sections to support based of sectarianism. For example in Yemen, they support mostly Shiite forces, so also in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and pretty much any country in which they set foot.

Trying to pose as the leader of the Muslim world while at the same time showing extreme dislike for Sunnis is certainly a counterproductive strategy to gain the respect and support of Sunnis. This is the main reason why Iran has largely failed in its attempt to topple the U.S puppets of Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states.

The regime never succeeded in exporting the revolution to any country, not even Shiite Azerbaijan, let alone a Sunni country. What the regime succeeded in doing is backing itself into a corner and fighting for its survival. That’s not what you call wisdom. It’s only achievement has been the missiles, nuclear technology and other technologies, and the creation of proxies. but proxies are rather more destabilizing to their host countries than a stabilizing force.

christianblood

Good points you made again and I do agree with some of them. The one I really disagree is the Iraq/Iran war, a war that was imposed by the US and its Western puppets on the region. It was the CIA that encouraged and armed Saddam, even with chemical weapons to attack Iran. You also seem to ignore the American/UK imperialist hand in the region and especially in Iranian politics over the last century. You ignore the many times that the US/UK imperialists interfered and meddled in the affairs of the Iranian nation mainly because of their greed for oil and over strategic location of Iran. Don’t forget that it was CIA and Brits who replaced Mohammad Mosaddegh, the democratically elected leader of Iran and some years later did the same to the Shah, their puppet leader in Iran, stabbing him in the back and favoring Ayatullah Khumeini and his people over the him! I have no time to go into all the details but you can look it up by your self. Furthermore, you have to understand the only reason why the US and its Western/ME puppets hate Iran is because Iran is an independent country that would manage its own affairs independently. This does not mean Iran is a perfect country, it is not but it is an independent country and that is what they really hate Iran. Please watch the clip below on one of the Anglo-American conspiracies against Iran:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Z-ORkIjpA

The Objective

Everything you said about what they did to Iran is true, except for one: That the U.S pushed Saddam to start the war.

Check the events that led to the Iran-Iraq war. It wasn’t an imposed war. The fact is, Saddam was less tolerant of Iran’s meddling in the Shiite populations of Iraq. Khomeini, seeing that the Shiites were a majority in Iraq wanted to instigate a similar revolution to overthrow Saddam. Saddam naturally is alarmed and viewed the Iranian Shiite regime as a threat to his rule, hence, he decided to invade Iran to overthrow that regime. Don’t forget that Saddam was among the leaders who initially hailed the Iranian revolution. It was later when he realized the danger to his reign that he changed his position towards Iran.

America was having problems with both Saddam and Iran at the time, but the Iranian problem was more pressing. President Ronald Reagan supported both Iran and Iraq with arms to exhaust them cos they were both America’s enemies. But he supported Iraq more. Recall that the US and Iraq went to war in August 1990. The Iraq-Iran war ended August 1988, just two years before America fought Saddam.

Now, you didn’t say anything about what Iran did in Afghanistan that almost led to a war between them in late 1998, where Iran almost invaded Afghanistan. It was just the issue of sectarian differences. Iran aggressively tries to overthrow any Sunni government bordering its country. It even meddled in Pakistan!

Please, look up history before you make certain comments.

christianblood

Given the Shiite majority of the Iraqi nation no doubt that Saddam was concerned about the Khumeni’s revolution in Iran but Saddam also knew that because of the huge purge of the Iranian military whose officers where either replaced or murdered by the Ayatulahs at the time and Iran could not wage any war against anyone. In fact, the Iranian nation was in a great chaos at the time and it was only the repeated encouragement of the US and the West that Saddam decided to attack Iran. It was the CIA that encouraged Saddam to attack Iran as they thought Iran was on a very weak point and was disorganized and MEK (mujahedeen el-khalek) elements were also activated within Iran so that could create more chaos within Iran itself and takeover power just if necessary! By the way, it was not only Iraq but the whole Arab league were involved in the offensive against Iran and Arab forces came from countries as afar away as the Sudan with the blessing of the CIA.

What I know is that Iran did have mixed relations with the Talibani regime that was ruling Afghanistan mainly due to their sectarian differences (you know as well as I do that the Takfiri/Salafist like Talibanis don’t even consider Shiite as true Muslims). It was only after the Taliban were deposed by the US and its Aghani allies that Taliban decided to improve relations with Iran, some what. The funny thing was that the CIA and the Brits thought they could push the Ayatullahs around like they did the Shah and others Iranian leaders and were shocked and had some rude awakening to witness the holding of American embassy staff as hostages in Tehran! More of the historical line below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyHpVZoMIbc

The Objective

Look pal, you can’t easily deceive me about history. I don’t know if you are trying to conceal Iran’s nefarious actions against their Sunni neighbors or if you are truly ignorant of what actually happened. Saddam wasn’t in good terms with the U.S before that war broke out. Saddam actually supported the revolution (at least by his comments) because Saddam wasn’t on good terms with the Shah. And don’t forget the Shah was a U.S puppet. This alone should tell you Saddam wouldn’t do America’s dirty job of restoring the Shah he hated.

Saddam’s true fears came when he realized the Mullahs are a lot more dangerous to his rule than the Shah. If you don’t believe this information, I urge you to do some research.

The case of Afghanistan is even more obvious. I don’t want to argue much with you about this. I will just provide a source that should give you some direction to do further research. I am no fool, so if you are an Iranian agent trying to cover your government’s wrongdoings, you had better stop trying. The source I provide below is not pro-American. It is anti-American. Everyone who doubts me can check the link:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/01/iran-united-states-and-operation.html

christianblood

The Shah was a US puppet and the US thought that they could make puppets out of the Ayatullahs and that is why they encouraged the Shah, days before the Ayatullah returned from Paris to leave power, they literally stabbed him in the back! Again, Saddam, though concerned, he knew Iran was in no place to wage war because of the condition of its officer corp which was decimated and purged by the Ayatullah. But after repeated encouragement of the US and its puppets he had the courage to attack Iran mobilizing the whole Arab League against it! By the way, I am not saying the Iranian regime is saintly, it is not, but they are resisting the Empire at the best of their ability and want to remain independent and for that they have my admiration because the US imperialist empire is really evil. I wish Iran and its neighbors make peace and resolve their differences and treat one another with respect and reject outside interference. You said, I may be an Iranian, I am not, far from it! I am from the Balkans, a Serbian. Iran actually provided thousands of tens of arms and advisers to the Bosnian Muslims to kill my people during the Balkan wars, acting like the leader of the Islamic world! Haha! Americans and Nato bombed us too on behalf of the Bosnians and KLA but I have no il-will against the Iranian people today or against anyone and wish them well. Plz watch the short clip on the Iranian matter and the West. Great day, bro!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQFgmVgHCpU

Raptar Driver

You’re right about Iran, it is afraid of us and it should be. If we decide to attack it no 1’s coming to their help. Russia won’t do nothing China won’t do nothing. Iran is toast and they know it.

Raptar Driver

We Americans are not cowards when we have overwhelming force. If the odds are even or not in our favor, you’ll see our backs quite quickly.

Free man

How lucky we all are that what you write is wrong about what happened in the 1940s of the last century.

Raptar Driver

How lucky I am to not understand your reference point.

Free man

WW2

Raptar Driver

What specifically about world war 2 are you talking about?

Cromwell

You are cowards,you go all over the world attacking small Countries,what i don’t understand is what do you get out of it?

Raptar Driver

Basically hothead I did say that we are cowards if you know how to read English.

The Objective

It doesn’t look like that in Syria where America is facing off with a nuclear armed Russia. If Iran does anything to really piss off the American public, belief me a war will come faster than anyone think. I don’t think you are American. You are a Shiite tying to make Iran look less weak than it is. Without any meaningful retaliation for Soleimani or one which Iran maintains a veil of deniability, Iran’s backing down is quite clear to any objective analyst. No amount of mouthiness can proof otherwise.

Raptar Driver

Again like I told the other guy I am basically saying we are cowards unless we go in with overwhelming force and then we feel like the tough guy get it now?

guest

US cowardice on display.

The Objective

This is not cowardice. It is a message that the U.S will cut the Iran-Hezbollah route both in the air and on the ground. If you’d ask me, those acting cowardly in this scenario are the Iranians. The regime appears hell bent to avoid any war with the U.S or Israel no matter what America does, provided it doesn’t launch attacks on Iranian soil. Appease the Americans or this war will surely come. The only other alternative is to test your secret nukes openly.

Ashok Varma

US tried to start and China-India war too but failed. The Persians are very calm and know the game well.

paolinks

What about the revenge for the killing of Suleimani? It didn’t look like something a coward would do.

Zionism = EVIL

He is another idiot posting from his Americunt masters, total baloney :) Not even worth educating.

Free man

YES.

Cromwell

Zip it you Nazi twat.

Zionism = EVIL

He is not a Nazi, he is Wahhabi student living in the US and trolls for his masters. I have his IP. Sometimes he posts as an “Islamist” to gauge people’s reaction, but every comment is pushing CIA and Zionist propaganda.

The Objective

Look man, stop picking on me if you lack the intelligence to understand the deep geopolitics of the Middle East. From your comments, you know more about strategy than politics. And your knowledge of strategy is not so impressive to me. Any civilian that follows events, studies history, thinks logically and objectively will figure out much of the happenings in Middle East today. A lot of careful thinking and planning goes into every single action the U.S or Iran takes in hot spots like Syria and Iraq. You need to really adopt objectivity when studying the events, or you’ll miss a lot. That’s the reason you keep calling me a CIA agent because of my divergent views from yours.

This seems like a cheer-leading forum to me. I see no reason for your rebuke of my comment that “It was only a message to Iran that America will start interfering with air transfer of weapons to Hezbollah”. That does not mean I support America. I only state a logical motive behind the interference. If they wanted to shoot the plane down, they could have done so.

I also know that the U.S military is no coward. Simply because I hate their country does not mean that I am blind to their courage and military power. They have destroyed many countries militarily, inflicting heave losses on their adversaries. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Vietnamese forces were killed by the same military you call cowardly. Although they lost the war on the minds of people. They also nearly wiped out Iran’s navy in the late 80s and early 90s.

The U.S armed forces are truly hardcore fighters, especially the experienced ones. You are making the same kind of mouthiness Saddam’s Generals made before the U.S ruined their country.

If I were the president of a country, I will not underestimate the power of my enemies. This will help you plan more objectively. Objectivity yields the best results.

Perhaps you don’t like me saying Iran is the country acting cowardly? The Iranians will really fight should the U.S attempt to invade their country. But so too will any other country.

I am tired of typing right now. I will only conclude that you don’t Understand Iran, even if you think you do.

The Shiite mission of ruling the Muslim world is far more important than a war with the U.S that might spoil whatever chance they have of ever Shiianizing the Muslim world.

christianblood

US cowardly bullies pick small, defenseless countries and still they are never successful anywhere but only create mess, chaos and instability everywhere they go. The Vietnamese kicked the americunt arses, forcing them to withdraw hastily with their tails between their legs! The diaper-wearing cowardly Yankees can’t even defeat the lightly armed Talibani cavemen for two decades!!! Hahaha!

The Objective

The U.S army is not good at wining minds, but it is surely great at destabilizing countries, and that is what exactly Iran should fear. When America fights, it does not aim to win minds, but to destroy.

If you think the U.S military is not capable of massively damaging Iran, then let Iran launch just a single missile at a U.S military gathering like in Afghanistan that kills scores of Americans. Or let Iran assassinate a U.S general with a drone and openly take credit. That’s when you’ll know if the U.S armed forces are cowards or really deadly forces.

I hate it when people close their eyes to reality and instead cheer-lead. I don’t make subjective comments.

christianblood

U$ is a big, fat cowardly bully and no bully will keep bullying forever they will surely have a big, bloody nose one day!

The Objective

What makes the U.S fail in Afghanistan is that majority of Afghans seem to prefer the Taliban rule to what the U.S imposes on them. Weapons isn’t enough to win wars. The U.S lost in Afghanistan cos the Taliban have refused to adopt the poisonous democracy preached by America. Taliban is the Afghan people, not some isolated group. That means for the U.S to win they have to kill every supporter of the Taliban including women and Children. I can’t see them doing that even though they can.

The Objective

The Vietnamese did not defeat American militarily but politically. please get your history straight. America lacked any clear objective prior to the Vietnam war. The American public demonstrated until their president was forced to resign. American people forced their government to pull out of Vietnam. Read up Vietnamization and what led to it.

Raptar Driver

We are only hardcore when we’re facing women and children Just like wounded knee.

The Objective

Your track record tells a different story. Do stop trying to paint the U.S military as cowardly, because any objective analyst will tell you it isn’t. You spew complete nonsense. The U.S does pretty much whatever it wants in the Middle East. We’ve heard threats over and over again about expelling the Americans. Yet no one mounts any manly attack on U.S forces that can force a rethink in Washington. So tell this nonsense to your subjective pals on this forum who are only too happy to belief you. As for myself and the Iranian leaders, we know the U.S still wields a highly deadly force. They are nuclear armed and have the largest military in the world. A military that has decades of experience overthrowing regimes and winning big battles. The U.S only loses politically and financially. The human cost of their wars are ridiculously low compared to that of its adversaries. You still think the U.S military is coward and incompetent? Tell that to Soleimani and the Mullahs in Iran.

Jimmy Jim

NUKE KIKES & VISIT IRAN!

nyomarek

Iranian leadership allowed and supported the assassination of their greatest general Qasem Soleimani, because he got too successful and they feared him.

Cromwell

Who told you that? https://media0.giphy.com/media/dC9DTdqPmRnlS/giphy-downsized-medium.gif

Jimmy Jim

GAS THE KIKERS & FEED THE SEPOS!

Free man

This is not the first time. I of course don’t justify this and I don’t understand why civilian planes are flying over al-Tanaf? Why endanger them? https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/1286386954309902341

Zionism = EVIL

Even though you are complete uneducated mixed up inferior fuckwit punk, I will try to educate you idiot. It is called a civilian air corridor and the direct flight path from Beirut to Tehran via Iraq and then due northeast to Tehran. Al-Tanf is southern Syria and the flight path for all airliners is about 30 nautical miles north of it. You are so stupid that it is not funny. What kind of an Iranian is your father, to produce the dumbest cunt for a son. Seriously.

Free man

Responsible aviation authorities don’t allow flying in a war zone. But those who did not stop the civil aviation and caused the shooting down of the Ukrainian plane will not understand it. You are a great example of the saying – there is no fool like an old fool.

Zionism = EVIL

You stupid uneducated PUNK. It is not a war zone and most airlines use Syrian airspace. Seriously, your parents have to be morons to produce a dimwit like yourself. If my sons had been this dumb, I would have kicked their ass to high heavens.

Free man

“It is not a war zone” – LOL.

Zionism = EVIL

Stupid arsehole, if it was declared war zone. International Airline Safety Authorities would have closed Syrian airspace. You are dumbest thickest motherfucker on earth. I just laughed so hard that almost spilled my drink on the lap top. ROFLMAO.

Ashok Varma

No nation has openly declared war on Syria and there is only a airline advisory on Syrian and Iraqi airspace. Some EU airlines have diverted some of flights that were due to pass over both But most airlines are continuing to fly the usual corridors over Syria, Iraq and Iran.

Free man

You managed to shoot down the Ukrainian plane, now you almost managed to get the Americans to shoot down an Iranian civilian plane. You probably know what you’re doing. LOL.

Ashok Varma

I am not aware the India has shot down any civilian aircraft but on 10 August 1999, a Breguet Atlantic maritime patrol aircraft of the Pakistan Naval Air Arm was shot down by a MiG 21 fighter of the Indian Air Force over the disputed Rann of Kutch.

Free man

So now you’re trying to distance yourself from the mullahs regime.

Zionism = EVIL

IDIOT, he is an Indian ROFLMAO.

Lazy Gamer

Imagine if the passenger had his seatbelt off. lol Iran is going to continue sending civilian flights at the same travel path after this, despite US threats.

Ashok Varma

It is an international air corridor and only Iran’s civilian plane was targeted as a cowardly act of intimidation, if anything it will increase Iranian resolve as the past 41 years bear witness.

Free man

The Mullahs regime continues to play with the lives of its citizens. As in the case of the Ukrainian plane.

swedish_viking

Why would the USA need to visually inspect a registered commercial flight of a civil aircraft on route with transponders on?

Potato Man

The low lifes can’t do anything else but to kill more civilians.

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Tommy Jensen

Bloodlust. When you have killed one, it gets an obsession to kill as many motherfokkers as possible. Because we do it for freedom.

Potato Man

bEcAuSe We Do It FoR fReEdOm, didn’t know you were so young buddy and good to see you here not killing civilians :) stay here and say “we”.

Save one stupid ass from hell ;) I got you homie.

Rafik Chauhan

Thats why there is so man suicide in US and israeli military. bcuz they cant cope with the dreams. and keep getting afraid of everyone.

Zionism = EVIL

Very smart man, exactly every civilian airliner has to file a flight plan and has transponders and air traffic control and only the most inept military pilot would intercept it, this is just air piracy by Americunt cowardly arseholes.

Free man

Does it matter ? Why fly over their base?

Zionism = EVIL

You stupid CUNT, it is called a air corridor and the secondly the Americunts are occupying Syria illegally. You are a definite product of incest or the dumbest cunts on earth ROFLMAO.

Free man

“…the secondly the Americunts are occupying Syria illegally.” – If the Americans occupy illegally you should continue to fly your planes over their illegal bases. And maybe one of your planes will be Shoot down by one of their illegal missiles. Then you couid do another demonstration in Tehran and shout “Death to America”. Your way of thinking guys is funny and destructive, judging by the current state of Iran .

Concrete Mike

What you propose would set a dangerous precedent, as now all.american civilian airliners will be threatened.

Seriously your.hatred for iran is blinding you, either that or your just a stupid troll, the only job you can get with an arts degree.

d'Artagnan

A rather hateful troll and also very ignorant.

Free man

Softy Mike you’re an old fool. This is their base whether you like it or not. They’ve done it before, so it’s no surprise. Many countries don’t allow this airline to land in their territory and see it as a company that aids terrorism.

Wayne Nicholson

Says the guy from the country that’s been oppressing their black population for over 200 years.

Get off your high fucking horse asshole! You have no right to criticize any other country.

Your regime has not only been oppressing your own minority populations but supporting the most oppressive regimes the world has seen for over a century.

You’re country committed mass deportation and genocide against the native population. Their population went from 20 million to 600,000 by the turn of the 20th century. You did such a good job of that that it inspired Adolph Hitler to try the same thing against Slavs, jews and other minorities in Europe east to the Volga in 1940 – 45. Fortunately they weren’t as good at genocide as you were.

Americans have nothing to be proud of and LOT to atone for. You can try to sweep your history under the carpet but the world will never forget.

Free man

My family immigrated from Iran, having lived there for hundreds if not thousands of years. Who are you to tell me who I can or cannot criticize. F0ck 0ff little whiny.

Rafik Chauhan

then you and your family are fucking traitor. you doesnt belong anywhere on this earth if you cant have peace with your motherland.

Free man

You are probably a very confused person. I oppose the mullahs regime not Iran. Very soon the Iranian people will throw up the hate regime.

Rafik Chauhan

yes cowards will to that . but dont worry soon this cowards will be thrown in thrash by force.

Free man

“but dont worry soon this cowards will be thrown in thrash by force.” – Indeed, the Iranian people are entitled to their freedom after 41 years.

Ashok Varma

You are not that bright are you?

Free man

You also wrote here that there is no Iranian underground fighting the mullahs regime: https://iran.liveuamap.com/en/2020/23-july-an-iranian-channel-said-to-be-affiliated-with-irgc

Jimmy Jim

FLY KIKES!

Concrete Mike

Its not their base you.morron, usa is occupying AL Tanf , a rather hostile move even a biased fool like you cant deny.

Its a civilian airliner FFS. What were they worries about, photos of them helping ISIS pop up on facebook??

Lunacy is what this is.

Free man

Softy Mike you’re an old fool. This is their base whether you like it or not. They’ve done it before, so it’s no surprise. Many countries don’t allow this airline to land in their territory and see it as a company that aids terrorism.

Cromwell

Listen you thick bastard,the US have no business having a base in Syria,are you retarded or something?

Free man

So go tell them. They will surely listen to a genius like you and leave.

d'Artagnan

You need to buy a map and book on logic. Al-Tanf is illegally occupied by US to train terrorists in Syria.

Free man

Does this change the fact that the mullahs regime endangers its citizens by allowing Iranian civilian aircraft to fly over this base?

Potato Man

Americans soldier = (Nazi + fat + idiotic + thug) who suck on Zion dicks and pay them thinking them as gods. Image what this apes do in other countries (Iraq/Afg/Syria) that when they come back home after 6-9 months they kill themselves. LMFAO the Israeli and Americans are new Nazi of today. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7539f46c81798c1d25ff76e627551fc6ec5aa3f66a4ea25a9d090799ad091dfc.jpg

Dick Von Dast'Ard

If only the Iranian airliner had some R-73’s or PL-10’s on pylons for protection against American air hooliganism.

swedish_viking

Then it wouldn’t be an civilian aircraft.

Dick Von Dast'Ard

No, they would be a disguised merchant raider of the skies.

swedish_viking

No it would be a military fighter aircraft or a military transport with civilians onboard according to intenational law.

Both are military targets, not civilian targets.

Dick Von Dast'Ard

I wouldn’t have civilians onboard. Just weapons operators. (WSO) I’d discharge several short-range AAM’s at a time (like flares) at the bandit Americans.

swedish_viking

Then it’s just another military aircraft.

Dick Von Dast'Ard

The idea is similar to the WW2 German merchant raiders of the oceans and seas, but this time with disguised commercial airliners. So yes, correct…

PZIVJ

Perhaps 12 missile ports per side. Now that would be an impressive raider! :D

Dick Von Dast'Ard

I’d have x 28 SA-25’s on both port and starboard sides. (x56 Verba, fired in volleys of of between 3 and 7 missiles) I’d also have the cargo hold converted to fire x 12 R-73’s forwards/aft.

Ashok Varma

US has been engaged in numerous crimes against Iran since 1979 and this the latest cowardly episode.

The Objective

I don’t buy the yarn that America was only conducting a routine safety operation. This is a warning by America that they will start interfering with Iran’s transfer of weapons to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Tension just keeps building. The world might not be far from a regional war. Trump is a very dangerous man. If Iran wants to avoid a war it must be careful not to retaliate against the U.S in ways that anger the American public to support a war. Because public opposition to war is the only thing stopping Trump and Netanyahu. Nothing else.

Ashok Varma

This is part of US and Zionist intimidation of Iran as all else has failed.

<>

Nothing has failed Ashok, we hit them wherever and whenever they risk our national security. Still waiting for Hezbollah’s response, that is if they are brave enough to try us out again.

Zionism = EVIL

LOL, mom’s out hustling again.

The Objective

It should be pretty clear to them now that they cannot intimidate Iran into submission. These lunatics are desperately pushing for war.

guest

Iran is beyond their reach.

The Objective

Not quite the case. If Iran were to fall for the trap of retaliating in devastating way to America, they will certainly invade or at least attempt an invasion of Iran.

You can’t say Iran is beyond their reach. They have nearly destroyed the Iranian economy. They have Iran encircled with Military bases. They stir up protests in Iran that lead to the death or hundreds, destruction of hundreds of critical facilities like fuel stations, banks, police stations, etc. They have been killing Iranians in Syria, and they killed Iran’s most-celebrated hero.

They surely are causing serious harm with all these acts of terror. So you cannot say Iran is beyond their reach. The Iranian regime must tread carefully if it were to ever avoid a devastating war.

christianblood

They can’t invade Iran, they will be fucked!

Tommy Jensen

We have the right to fly in free International waterways of free navigation from US own soil in Syria.

Dick Von Dast'Ard

Erm, no you don’t. Certainly no right to be endangering lives.

d'Artagnan

US is in eternal decline and playing with the lions tail and eventually will really get bitten hard.

Assad must stay

These american pilots need to come to Iranian court and do time for their extremely dangerous and stupid actions

chris chuba

Passenger Airliner routes are registered, total BS by CENTCOM. The Iranian pilot thought there was a risk of collision, so either the jets were approaching head on or gaining on him from the tail side. This is a pattern of harassment. If the U.S. is alleging that the Passenger Jet is carrying weapons then try enforcing inspections when it lands, how else would you do it? Technically unregistered weapons transfers are illegal until October as per UN resolution.

Satellitte

US criminal routine targeting civilians as always.

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