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U.S. Does Not Rule Out Striking Russsian Forces In Syria – White House Press Secretary

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U.S. Does Not Rule Out Striking Russsian Forces In Syria - White House Press Secretary

A cruise missile is launched from the deck of of the USS Ross in the Mediteranean Sea. The missile was one of around 60 that were launched to strike an airbase in Syria. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Robert S. Price

On April 11, the White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said that US President Donald Trump believes that Russia and the Damascus government should be held accountable for the alleged chemical attack in the Syrian are aof Douma, which took place on April 7.

According to Sanders, Russia is partially responsible for “chemical attack” because Moscow had allegedly guaranteed that it will prevent any use of chemical weapons in Syria.

“The president holds Russia and Syria responsible for this chemical weapons attack … They [Russia] guaranteed that the use of chemical weapons by Syria would not happen again. They failed at that,” the Russian news outlet Sputnik quoted Sanders as saying during a press briefing in the White House.

Sanders also revealed that Trump didn’t make a final decision on how the US will be responding to the alleged chemical attack yet.

“We have a number of options and all of those options are still on the table. Final decisions haven’t been made yet on that front,” Sanders said.

When she was asked to comment on Russia’s assertion that the alleged chemical attack was staged by the White Helmets organization, Sanders claimed that the US intelligence reports do not support this accusation.

Furthermore, Sanders revealed that the US does not rule out strikes on Russian forces in Syria:

“Once again, all options are on the table, and I don’t have any further announcements about,” she said answering to a question about President Trump’s April 11 tweet threatening Russia and Syria.

In a related development, US news outlet reported that US Army Central Command (CENTCOM) commander, General Joe Votel has cancelled a scheduled public appearance in New York state on April 12.

Sanders’ statements and Gen. Votel’s decision suggest that Trumps may be only hours away from approving a military action against the pro-government forces in Syria.

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Law Se

O you fucking cunts kill your own families first then yourselves you arrogant pieces of shit The rest of the world wants to live I hope you are alive to suffer in the hell you will create and watch your children die in agony

Law Se

Tell the American people how many will die for your Yankee arrogance how many will fall to unchecked disease or starve or freeze to death because your country collapsed from a global war how many will become refugees in their own land trying to escape radiation how many generations of mutations you will have created…..tell them no more food cause the wheat fields won’t exist no water to your cities of millions no electricity to keep your world running Tell them the countries of the south the Latin american countries you have treated so badly will turn you away for fear of the illness death and problems you will come with …You tell them

Rancho Deluxe

Talk about taking your own life, go ahead. It makes No Difference. We are all doomed, unless we have accepted Jesus Christ. I endure the world Only because He has said “those that perservere will be given a crown of everlasting life”. So that being said, I endure the world & it’s hatefullnes. We will all be awarded for our deeds whether good or evil. So be it!!!

Law Se

Interesting so blowing up the world is your answer cause it is a bible thumping bunch of illiterate assholes who elected this ass in the first place..and he too loves Jesus yeah right go to your Jesus glowing like a million suns..You have perverted the words of God by saying we are doomed you doom yourself we will live with God and the living God needs no go between to defend the innocent so keep that out ..Your kind accept death too willingly like cattle my God says fight read your bible not the parts those manipulators of God word tell you to read if all men read their holy books as the Lord God intended then you would not have a fucking asshole in the whitehouse…

skinner15

Why doesn’t Jesus stop it all then?

Is he a war criminal also?

Russie Unie

Dare naughty bitch ! Putin, strike a Satan Missile on the White House, they are bloody nuts !

schiamachy

I do not think the Whitehouse is in control. The Pentagon would be a better target. IMO Trump has has been dragged into these maniac decisions by the campaign to link him to the nonsense about Russians cheating Hillary of her Presidency. That campaign is run by the Deep state military wing. I think the Chinese are handling the situation really well by hitting Wall Street and the US dollar but Russia does not have the economic grunt to do it.

888mladen .

It will never happen though it would have been a right move. Pentagon preferably.

Nigel Maund

Russia has no options left as it cannot afford to back down this time. The stakes are just too high politically, economically and geopolitically. So this time, US, French and UK aircraft have to be shot down and even US and NATO naval vessels sunk. The totally evil, corrupt and inhuman Anglo – American Zionist Bankster – Corporatist Cabal has to be given a decisive bloody nose in the Middle East with substantial losses in men and material, but without going the whole hog to nuclear war. Heavy losses of US and NATO aircraft and pilots will suffice and perhaps the USS Donald Cooke.

Nexusfast123

I think the leader of around 145m people has a lot on his plate. More so that you ever will. His decision could end civilisation and your life.

John Mason

Going to happen anyway so Putin may as well call the Wests’/US bluff and see if they want to keep their luxuries and money, if they don’t then we all lose, too bad then.

FlorianGeyer

That is why Russia will not kneel to America. The future of our planet depends on the bravery of the Russian people in order to prevent Amerika and Israehell enslaving us all.

Starlight

We call this WISHFUL THINKING. I’d love to see Russia LEGALLY defend innocent ally Syria with every means possible, but it just ain’t gonna happen under zionist appeaser Putin. Just yesterday Putin’s man in Israel gave a statement to the press saying Putin stood with Israel and would destroy Iran if Iran dared to ever attack Israeli forces in response to jewish strikes on Iran.

Why do people here doubt Putin’s loyalty to the jews? Don’t you have ears? He’s said this in the clearest terms over and over in public.

Now Putin doesn’t want the West to attack and then invade Syria, but thru a series of cretinous and craven decisions, Putin has backed himself into a corner. And this is why MI6 has run that false flag at the precise moment. That’s what you do when a fool finds himself on the ropes- no matter how big the fool.

Putin is going to retreat from Syria, and in the very near future. First he’ll have the russian forces sit tight while the West blitz pounds Syria day after day- and then when the West moves in Putin will arrange the safe passage of Russian forces out.

Joe

twisting all the facts…. not true at all .

Putin said he will defend Israel ONLY IF IRAN attacks Isreal . Now Israel is on US coalition side , Russia will in fact help Iran to attack Israel .

Stupid fella , knows next nothing , everyday spewing nonsense to demean Putun.

Ma_Laoshi

I think there’s a big grey area here. If Starlight is inaccurate, it may be because he’s voicing his frustration–which I share. The Kremlin has been crystal clear that they *won’t* stand by their ally; they just won’t. In the hands of a man like Trump, this just becomes the new normal, a baseline from which to pursue further brinkmanship.

No matter whether the reason is religious, psychological, or financial, the fact is that Putin colors within lines acceptable to the rabbis. There are certain lines he just won’t cross. In the face of an unhinged enemy, that’s a tight straitjacket.

Nosferatu

You are stupid or a troll. Possibly both

Merijn

Can you give me the link that Putin will destroy Iran please, thanks in advance

John Whitehot

No, if a conflict starts in Syria it will escalate to nuclear.

Nigel Maund

No John, that’s still are very large step up from conventional warfare. If Russia sinks the Harry S Trueman super-carrier that would probably cause the conflict to go nuclear.

John Whitehot

it’s not a very large step for one simple reason: the US is dreaming if they think such thing will not escalate (unless they don’t attack Russia in Syria at all, which would have no effect on the course of the war).

When it escalates, it means that NATO will attack Russia not only in Syria, but pretty much everywhere.

At that point, Russia will start using tactical nukes according to their nuclear policy, which allows their deployment in case the state faces an existential threat.

FlorianGeyer

If that’s the case so be it.

FlorianGeyer

Better to be dead than living like this in my opinion :-

https://foreignpolicymag.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/gaza.jpg?w=960&h=554&crop=0,0,129,0

The Concentration Camp of Gaza. The biggest the world has seen and a lesson to all non jews.

gustavo

it may escalate to nuclear.

MartinA

It would be a mistake for Russia to attack the aggressors unless they threaten the Assad regimes control of Syria.

The reason Washington tries to provoke this conflict is because they need conflict and war. Because they are losing the peace. If at all possible Russia and Syria should not retaliate. The aim here is a peaceful and secure Syria. And a world where the anglo-sio empire is destroyed.

Vitex

So far, the Russians appear to be holding their nerve admirably. And keeping their best weapons under wraps too.

Merijn

You are probably right………..can I Push the Buttons somewhat later than perhaps?

Nigel Maund

Agree but once the shooting starts how does one retain any control. The Russians have announced “they will take out the launch sites of the missiles whether these be aircraft or ships”. So, this is what they will do. This will send a clear message in this high stakes game that Russia is serious. Escalation to a nuclear war is a large step up that even the US and NATO would be reluctant to take. Ships and planes maybe lost but are readily replaceable and small chips in the overall game. A large step up in the conflict would be to take out an AEGIS cruiser or the Harry S Trueman super-carrier with hypersonic missiles.

MartinA

If the Washington attack is symbolic it would be idiotic to escalate. Imho, if the attack is against airfields and areas that could be construed as “launchpads for chem attack” it is symbolic.

This is all a public relations game. It is all about popular opinion. The more Washington have to accept the role of aggressor, the harder it will be for them to sell the war.

And if there is any credible chance for Russia and Syria to avoid retaliating it will be a win for them, imho.

Ma_Laoshi

That’s where we were last year: let Trump have his jerk-off if it gets the Deep State off his back, upon which we can proceed with partnership and many other Good Things. How did that work out?

MartinA

It worked out perfectly. Syria has won the war the last year.

Ma_Laoshi

Progress, yes. But talk of victory was just Putin’s election bluff: you haven’t won until you get the Dark Throne to back off. Seems like the latter is ready to go for another round.

MartinA

To control Washingtons behaviour you have to destroy all their armies and land an invasion and march on their capital and major population and industrial centres. Which is impossible.

However, what has been accomplished is that Washington has failed with their war aims in Syria. And Syria has so far prevailed in its waraimes. This is victory. The whole reason for this sillyness now is the desperation and impotent rage of the neocons that they have lost the war. You are putting the cart before the horse.

Ma_Laoshi

It seems we just interpret events differently. Neither Little Kim’s North Korea nor, obviously, “Black Hawk Down” Somalia had remotely the strength for what you suggest. But still they delivered a message “mess with us and you’ll get hurt” to thick American skulls, and it worked for them. It is Washington’s impunity (so far) in the Syrian theater which seems to have convinced Trump that he can find lower-hanging fruit there.

FlorianGeyer

Wars such as this have sometimes lasted for centuries, so why do you seem to believe in instant gratification as in a game of chess or a video game?

Arguably the Middle East Conflict has been ‘hot’ since 1947.

John Whitehot

victory is when you achieve your primary objectives.

in this case, destruction of terrorists as a fighting force able to “topple Assad”.

even in the case west strikes Syria, there would be no “rebels” on the ground to retake the ground they lost to SAA.

this is why the important thing is to protect Assad from the (possible) strikes.

Tudor Miron

Facts show you are right. Red part of Syrian map is growing constantly.

MartinA

Evicting Turkey and/or the Kurds might be impossible thought.

Tudor Miron

I would not be so sure if we speak about several years span. World is changing fairly rapidly nowdays.

FlorianGeyer

It worked out with the murder of innocent Syrians.

John Whitehot

the carrier Truman won’t get into the area before may.

in any case, if a US ship or submarine is destroyed, the US will very likely attack Russia elsewhere.

MartinA

Yes, the arrogance and entitlement of the US seem almost infinate. Imho, the best way to defeat this dangerous mentality is economic crisis and falling living standards in the USA. But we are not there yet.

The carrier-group could be Trumps typical way of talking big and building tension but doing nothing. Sending a carrier group seems impressive, but buys time for political manouvering. And for the american people to start phone campaigns to their congressmen. That is my hope anyway.

FlorianGeyer

All this could also give Trump a reason to cancel his forthcoming meeting with Kim Jon Un as well.

Tudor Miron

Agree. Things may escalate very rapidly and out of control of Politicians.

FlorianGeyer

Russia in the main only has a substantial military presence in Russia and Syria. If the US attacks the Russian homeland, there will be a nuclear response. President Putin has stated as much.

Perhaps the US should attack the (imaginary ) Russian trolls IN the US and UK with bombing raids instead:)

I have got ‘fairly certain’ evidence and have ‘high confidence’ that there is a Russian Troll Unit installed in Whitehall and also GCHQ :)

geopolitics

Why do shills always have “IMHO” in their dribble???? It gives them away every time.?

FlorianGeyer

IMHO , I have no idea :)

FlorianGeyer

There is no way of knowing when the US missiles are fired whether they are symbolic or not. Every missile has to be assumed to be deadly.

MartinA

If they are aimed at sites that could be construed as having sent the gas attack, they are symbolic. If they for example are aimed to assassinate Assad or to cripple Syrias air defences they are not.

FlorianGeyer

The problem on the ground will be the fast reaction timed needed to ascertain what might be the target , especially with ‘smart’ missiles programmed to take a meandering flight path.

Ma_Laoshi

The Russians have announced no such thing: they said they MAY do this *if any Russians get killed*. As for destroying Syria, the message is essentially the usual “go right ahead, it has nothing to do with us”. So clearly there’s an envelope here which the Donald has eagerly started pushing.

Nigel Maund

Having embedded Russian servicemen all across Syria there is a very high chance of US or NATO missiles killing Russians.

Tudor Miron

Ma Laoshi, you either don’t speak Russian and going by wrong translation or deliberately twisting the words of Ru general stuff. “In case Russian personnel is in danger.” Later Konashenkov (RuMoD speacker) reiterated that there will be no time to judge or ask someone for exact trajectory of incoming missile. Shortest way to defending against saturation of your air defense system is targeting launch platforms. You (non Russians) often do not realize that Bear doesn’t bark. It is a quiet and mostly peaceful beast. West often mistakes loud mouthing and trash talking for actual bravery. Now if US strikes are only for show (couple of shitholes where there’s no Russian forces) than I will actually think before starting to shoot back – biting for faints may not be the best response. We have a wise and proven leader (unlike current crop of western clowns) and I hope he does what’s best but personally… It’s very tempting to give bully a bloody nose. Their arrogance is annoying. Americans just don’t know what war is. Their leaders are direct result of collective awareness level of their society. American society doesn’t actually oppose their government bulling the world and killing billions around the world. May be that’s because they never suffered…really this nation is very young. Children are often very cruel simply because they can’t yet comprehend what pain is.

MartinA

The US does not have any land threats. So they can use their military spending for playing divide and rule games in all the world, instead of defending at home. Whatever “bloody nose” you give them, this continues to be true.

This development became inevitable when Europe failed to support the Confederates in the US civil war.

The only way to change their perspective is nuclear war. Or breaking up the USA. Something that might become possible with the massive latin immigration.

Tudor Miron

Braking up of current USA is inevitable – mark my words even if it sounds weird right now. Center of power concentration is transferred to China by powers that employ US deep state. (higher ierarchical level)

MartinA

Well, breaking up the USA would be the very best thing that could happen.

FlorianGeyer

Well said my friend. Bravo.

Ma_Laoshi

I barely speak Russian, still understand it a bit. I got my version of the quote from a poor(ly remembered) translation. It is telling you like your version better; an uncharitable observer might read it as “Hey Syrians, sucks to be you if you thought the Bear was going to protect you.” Could you believe the US expressing themselves in this way if someone stated an intention of bombing France or Japan? The West is refusing to treat Russia as an equal because it is not behaving like one.

Yes Western leaders are craven, amoral bullies; they also stick together like a pack of hyenas, so much of the time their bullying is effective. Much evidence suggests that Russia is currently bargaining about what it’ll allow the Dark Throne to bomb in Syria, making Moscow complicit in the strikes. Yet other pieces of Syria are apparently being conceded to Turkey in exchange for energy deals which benefit the Kremlin critters, not Syria. With this example, who’d want to be a Russian ally? Clearly not Qatar, which has rushed back into the Empire’s good graces.

Tudor Miron

MA LAoshi, I will say it again. This is not about who like each version better. I give straight direct translation and what you give is twisting. Yes, there could be a deal going on right now. I’m not against allowing US to bomb some Syrian shithole to save Trumps face. That’s an easy way out for everyone involved. If they do strike meaningfuk targets that may influence the course of this war than my opinion (I’m not the one giving orders) is to fight back hard and let it be.

Ma_Laoshi

In chess, a threefold repetition is a draw of course, which shows that it’s a more civilized game than politics. Indeed you state the truth of the Russian position; the cultures are deeply different. To Western eyes, this looks like Russia has learned its proper place, which now needs to be reinforced with further humiliation.

If Russia wants to regain its own place in the world, then Trump (or, if you understandably don’t dare take him, a total loser like Macron) NEEDS to lose face very publicly, which will force the Empire to deal with Russia in a different way. But then of course, the Kremlin critters might lose their Kensington mansions–decisions, decisions…

John Whitehot

“As for destroying Syria, the message is essentially the usual “go right ahead, it has nothing to do with us””

and with this, you correlate so much with starlight that you are the same individual for me.

Tudor Miron

In some ways you are right. Cool head is required in a situation that may lead to destruction of man kind but there is a huge BUT. Russia can actually ignore Israeli little strikes because Israel for Russia is like a fly weight boxer for good super middleweight. May be annoying but no threat. But Russia can not ignore (no matter that peace is our goal) direct attack by US in this situation. I will retranslate from Russian back to English Winston Churchill’s words – Country that chooses shame instead of war is bound to have them both – shame and war. Churchill was a snake but he said the bare truth on that occasion.

MartinA

Prestige matters, true. And you can not give up much of it. But Russia has already gained enormous prestige in Syria. And victory is more important. If Russia can afford to lose prestige and increase the chance to win the war, that is the best course of action.

Imho, the Empire will not go down without war. So war will come. But the more it can be put off, the weaker the Empire will be. Thats why they try to provoke war now.

Merijn

America has No Army…NATO has No Army….Sun Tzu is spinning in his Grave with so much Foolishness…

MartinA

Arrogance will Dissapear as snow before the Sun

How foolish to worry about changing the mindset of your enemy. Victory is important. Not psychoanalyzing the USA. And again, just count resources and industrial capacity. The one advantage that the anti Washingtons have is that washington does not have support of its people. Striking hard would mitigate the weakness of the enemy.

Merijn

The Attack Comes from all sides….the West are the Ones that are Cornered…their Lies did not Work…their False Flags did not Work… their Loudmouthed Shouting did not work… their ISIS did not work.. Their Headchopper-Mercenaries did not work…their Missiles did not work…their West vs. Muslims did not work… The removal of Assad did not work…Nothing those Folks tried Worked…and they are trying to pick a Fight with Russia?…hehehe…I think I already know how that will work……..

MartinA

To me it seems all these evil lies and evil deeds and deceit are part of a domestic debate in the USA, with the deep state trying to manipulate the public to support a war. Or at least support keeping troops in Syria (illegally).

Merijn

I wish Americans good luck in getting rid of those Traitors… in Europe there is the same problem…the Arrogance of the Elite…and Brave men and women that dared to stand up and inform and gave their lives for Truth..the War in Syria..it made their evil deeds visible..together with unity among good humans this will be what makes them fall… As back up there will always be peoples ready to fight, if the more Intelligent Soft Approach doesn’t work…

Rob

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Yb7Sd8xbI

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2016.11/article/5832c5f2c3618843258b45ee.jpg Saddam and his nation were innocent just they invaded Iraq for Israeli migrants. Now they want to invade Syria for Israel, ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/1-112.jpg?x22691 Trump, May and Macron like witches deluding the world by false chemical attacks in Syria to make it reason to invade Syria.

US, UK and France have invaded Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya etc. have done massacre there for occupying lands and now Russia are trying their best to stop massacre there and liberate these lands from these witches. ————————————————————————-

Nigel Maund

Good post Rob! Thanks! The UK Government has come out of this sorry False Flag exercise with shit all over its face! It could well bring down the May Government and reminds one of the evil Tony Blair’s WMD lies before the second Gulf War which was inititated on the back of the CIA – Mossad 911 “Pearl Harbor” massive False Flag attack.

Rob

You are welcome.

FlorianGeyer

The local elections in the UK are on the 3rd May. Theresa May is certainly to get a drubbing. If its bad enough she will go I think and there will be a general election.

Ma_Laoshi

My guess (well really it’s Empire SOP) is that at least initially, there will be just cruise missiles, without any aircraft to be shot down. The Dark Throne calculates that in this scenario, Russia will be content to just hit/jam the missiles, and won’t dare to sink the ships.

John Whitehot

in that case, the US won’t accomplish nothing but a propaganda stunt, affirming that they destroyed the Syrian war machine but changing nothing in the course of the war.

It’s not entirely to discard as a theory, as they have been behaving like this pretty much all these latest years.

FlorianGeyer

The crew of the Donald Cooke could well jump overboard again and then the Russians could capture it as a Trophy :) Its a dream I have Nigel :)

John Whitehot

“but without going the whole hog to nuclear war”

TU-160s and TU-95s in Iran mean otherwise. If the mission was anti-ship, TU-22s would have been deployed. The presence of strategic bombers means that the “button cover” has been raised.

Dušan Mirić

I am going to remind US officers on judgement in Nuremberg. Nazi officers were trying to defend themselves with “I was just following the order”

Albert Pike

Well it’s military and freemasonry – orders got to be followed! http://lochmann-verlag.com/massoni_chapters_1_to_9.pdf

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Albert Pike

eff off sell yourself on the street corner…

Ivan Freely

All fine and dandy but, you need to defeat the US militarily first, before dragging any surviving officers / public servants to court.

Daniel Castro

Drag them to the angry mob, stupid courts are waste of time.

Merijn

There’ll be a shortage of Rope in the U.S. if you hang’m ALL…using every rope twice might be an option….

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/44d3e4440fc109d73f36c64cd083ee972699b0e38d7ebbb025047271dcea684a.jpg

888mladen .

Good sense of humor.

Joe

and you think US has any chance of defeating SAA and its allies. Stop dreaming.

Even if the entire missiles are fired from all the ships , it would not make a dent to SAA’s military capabilities.

SAA are not fools to display known sites for those dump cruise missiles to hit. Planes cannot fly over Syria or be shot down like flies..

In Syria no US force can even defeat SAA alone .

Anyway .. it is obvious , Western coalition has given up on plan A and now on plan B that is direct intervention of the war to overthrow Assad.

As long as Iran/russia is behind Assad , at most US can fire countless cruise missiles and nothing more.

Ivan Freely

Come on Joe. You know what I’m talking about; a total defeat (not just in Syria) of the US military.

Dušan Mirić

Well, for many times so far I heard US soldiers boasting their professionalism. I don’t have ambition to defeat US Army. I just hope there are some men of honor left in that murder company.

Starlight

God what a THICKIE- how many war criminals from the UK or USA stood trial at Nuremberg- oh, that’s right, exactly ZERO.

Now is the above poster thick by accident or intent? The selling of false hope is a classic zionist trick.

Now let me tell you something very interestng about Nuremberg. There were two important germans on trial.

1) the leader of the german U-boat fleets who every military expert in the West agreed did no more than the leaders of the allies anti-shipping forces did during the war.

2) the financier of the nazis who made the entire nazi project possible.

One was hung and one was found ‘innocent’ – guess which.

Ted

It was a derogatory post towards the U.S. not a request for a history lesson. The idea of you calling him a “THICKIE” well , lets give you a history lesson. There is an old saying Pot meet Kettle.

AJ

You really should cut down on the constant vitriol & slagging off of other opinions its almost pathological – are you incapable of civil discourse!!!

Merijn

Can you give me the link that Putin will destroy Iran please, thanks in advance

John Mason

Starlight, you may not know but those who win a war are exempt of prosecution and they also write the history books.

jorge

So, the Error Crassus wrote the history of Spartacus. Great discovery, John.

John Mason

“Crassus’ campaign was a disastrous failure, ending in his defeat and death at the Battle of Carrhae”, according to google.

jorge

And his campaign against Spartacus had also some little problems, that he had to decimate. The all about the man together may be can explain why the error of Crassus in Carrhae gave birth to the expression “error crassus”. But what matters is that he defeated in the last battle the army of Spartacus, but neither him nor the Romans “wrote the history”.

John Mason

Interesting, never knew that. Point taken.

Tommy Jensen

The trick is simple. US officers simply organise and become Nuremberg judges.

Daniel Martin

”Quem Iuppiter vult perdere, dementat prius”

Those whom God wish to destroy they first make mad.

mulegino1 .

“Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”

The Rubicon from sanity to madness, from simmering conflict to outright world war, and the end of America is about to be crossed. We can only pray that the guilty parties in DC, Wall Street and Hollywood pay the first bloody price, but we should also remember that it was our own sheepish somnolence, credulity and hankering after easy “little wars” against much weaker opponents that got us hooked onto war as 24/7 entertainment. We are used to “kicking the asses” of the weak and defenseless. We have no idea what it is like to have our own hind ends kicked to the curb.

The words of our first President ring prophetic and utterly veracious:

“The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible… it is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world…”

We forgot these sentiments when we hitched our nation’s interests and mortgaged our blood and treasure for the sake of that criminal entity occupying the Levant.

clubof.info

Americans should start looking up third degree burns and radiation poisoning and put the pictures next to images of their children before approving military action against Russia.

JEinCA

That’s what I’ve been saying all day. These maniacs in Washington are putting our children (and my children) at risk.

Ivan Freely

Everyday Americans have no say in how their military is used. Trump promised “no more war” and what did they get? More war.

Nizam

Barking dog never bites.

paul ( original )

May be not. But sometimes may be you need to kick it just to shut it up.

Joe Doe

I think Russia will coward it again. Putin has no balls to fight aggressor(s). The new US treat would never happen if Putin acted and responded with force against aggressor.

Nexusfast123

Ignorant comment. Putin is dealing with a retarded dumb playground bully that will only understand force. Force would escalate to nukes. You are a nobody and Putin is the leader of a nation of 190m people armed to the teeth with nukes. His life decisions are a tad more complex and impactful than yours.

888mladen .

Exactly. RU will have to face US cruise missiles in hundreds and possibly close to 1000. They will be completely overwhelmed by US NATO firepower. Pusin has missed opportunity to capitalize on lame duck period of US Obama presidency while dreaming of partnership with Trump. Pusin should welcome his partner now.

jorge

Guy, you are in the dangerous company of a Velociraptor, you are gong to be eated!

888mladen .

I personally have nothing to do with the guy. I’m trying to look objectively at the current situation with a due dose of constructive criticism. I am aware that cannibalism figuratively speaking has been practiced by those who are not able to cope with reality at this discussion. The past participle of to eat is eaten. Still hasn’t changed.

MartinA

Russia and Syria are winning the peace. Thats why Washington wants war. And thats why trolls like you try to provoke it.

888mladen .

You wish for peace and because of that you think it must be peace. Could it be wishful thinking?

MartinA

Washington desperately want an excuse for war. The better excuse it gets, the larger proportion of their populations they can rally.

Imho, if these attacks become symbolic, same as last time, and they do not threaten the Assad regimes control of Syria, it is better to not retaliate. Because Syria and Russia are winning the peace. Both in Syria. And globally, the western oligarchs are losing legitimacy and support all the time. Thats why they are seeking war all the time. Because their trajectory is negative.

888mladen .

It’s not gonna be symbolic judging by number of cruise missiles they carry on board. It’s close to 1000. They will be launched from two fleets coming from multiple directions.

MartinA

That is just a bigger symbol. Depending on what they aim for.

888mladen .

I hope you know the meaning of a symbol.

MartinA

Engelska är inte mitt modersmål. Så visst, du kan skrävla med att din engelska är bättre än min. Vad nytta du nu har av det.

geopolitics

Mr “IMHO” shill.

FlorianGeyer

Yes, the Syrians that have been liberated from the terrorist held areas for years are all very happy to be free again and are grateful to the SAA.

The US Coalition of Terror fears scenes such as these and do their best to inflame Syria again.

MartinA

But I dont think they CAN inflame Syria. The syrian population do not want any more war. There are not even figleaf sectarian divisions to exploit. The majority of the jihadis were foreign fighters. And they failed? So where does that leave Washington? Do they even have enough jihadis to act airforce for? Not to mention that the airdefences in Syria are vastly superior to Libya AND Russia is involved. I see no endgame here for the USA. Except provoking war with Russia. Say they launch 1000 Tomahawks. It would not change the situation on the ground even a little bit. Syria would still be winning.

FlorianGeyer

There are still tens of thousands of insane jihadis in Idlib , plus the Turks, Kurds, US forces to contend with. All of them being supplies, paid and controlled by the US coalition of terror.

NATO has been forced out of the shadows now , after the fast collapse of Douma.

If NATO + allies continue to lose , as I hope they will, their credibility on the world stage will be severely damaged and many of their cowardly vassal states around the globe will abandon the US. Especially as the US/EU economic situations become worse under the crippling burden of debt.

A debt that traditionally has been ‘inflated away’ by the victors of war.

FlorianGeyer

You have a typically american logic .

Real war is not like the Hollywood reality you have come to expect with tanned and muscular American Heroes saving the world.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/09/13/4906EDBB00000578-0-image-a-31_1518182123493.jpg

Ivan Freely

“…does not rule out strikes on Russian forces…” That’s one way to start a global war.

Nexusfast123

How can you be hold someone accountable for an alleged offence. They are f–king insane. There is zero evidence of any atrocity carried out by the Syrian army.

Russia now knows that the gloves are off. Picking a fight with the Russians is not a good idea.

JEinCA

I’m in America and I surely don’t want to see a US-Russian war but if I was President Putin my response would be “Russia does not rule out striking US Military targets in the US Mainland if Russian Forces are attacked in Syria”.

IH8Lies

Main stream media in the West is pretty quiet about possible war. No voices of reason to be heard in the MSM world. So is up to us to tell others and make calls and send links. Putin has made it very clear and for a long time what is going on.

velociraptor

It would be enough cut the red hot line between moscow and washington. THIS would be enough strong signal.

FlorianGeyer

I agree with you. Far too many in the West believe they are safe behind the very expensive NATO shields.

They are not.

Rancho Deluxe

Not only is Russia prevented from back-pedaling, the US finds itself in the same straights as Russia. For either one to concede, it would be disasterous. For this reason, bravado styled commentary should be restricted in favor of a more basal tone. We will just have to see how this plays out. Even if there is a clash, a Nuclear Exchange is not guaranteed, both sides could elect to exercise some degree of give & take. I for one believe this will be the case despite all of the frantic posturing by Trump & Putin.

Starlight

Why propaganda about the yanks hitting the russians? The reason is simple. America wants Putin to have an EXCUSE to move russian assets out of the way of every viable target in Syria.

The ONLY target Putin is allowed to defend is the palace location of Assad. But the West no more wants to kill Assad day one than it did Saddam during either Gulf War.

The West will first go after the infrastructure of Syria- power, water, transport, civilian governmental facilities- and Putin will let them. The major military assets of syria will be targeted just before the main invasion begins- when a massive NATO force moves in from Jordan, and Turkey shocks you fools by going “suprise, we were NATO all along- but wasn’t that always effing obvious since we are in NATO”.

All those rebels that Putin so carefully moved alive en masse to Turk controlled towns will be restored to Damascus by the West to become the new rulers. One might think Putin planned it this way all along.

RichardD

The Syrian government has gone from controlling 10% of Syria to 70%. With 10s of thousands of Jew world order terrorists killed. And now in your cloud cuckoo bizarro world the Russians are going to do a complete about face and hand Syria to the Jews. You’re complete loon, and a big liar.

Rancho Deluxe

Despite the actions of these 2 individuals the fate of the world is beyound their abilities to influence an outcome. Whether or not war comes, Nuclear or otherwise, the outcome is God’s hands. He will decide & I’m OK with that. When it is the time God has decided to reign in the world, He will do so & w/o the consent of man. For this reason I am aware of current events, yet I am not concerned with them.

Gjergj

Hahahahahahahaha, LOL !!!! Wake Up, Please !!!!

Merijn

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b78cf7b2ca2053cd1ac99c08eb1207d5f39f5712890627a08951ec995e822ba6.jpg

sam_koll

Maranatha

skinner15

So when does God actually do something about the wars that regularly kills millions of innocent people?

The God of Abraham demanded the genocide of the inhabitants of the “Promised Land”.

What a lovely guy.

Joe

Plan B has started …forget about getting proofs of CW attack or trying to justify.

The war is on . Direct intervention by western powers as their plan A failed.

It is up to Russia now….and of course Iran.

Anyway … there is no way US coalition using existing forces can make a dent to the Russian/Iran/Hezbollah /Syria alliance.

Plan B will fail again

velociraptor

Plan B has started ..

thank you, Putin, the chessmicromaster

Nosferatu

US is bluffing. If they wanted to strike Russian forces, they would certainly not be telling that to the Russians

novychelovek

Why not? They don’t have a stealth navy so no surprise factor in play anyway. The action may be given over to Israel or France so the instigating US’s can have “plausible deniability” at the end. Not the first time. Could be the last…

Nosferatu

France is trying to get out of this. They have just released information that they dont have enough fighters available for this operation. UK sudenly needs proof of the chemical attacks and Germany announced that they have problems with their aircrafts too. Israel will not risk too much. US is on their own and is blufing.

Ivan Freely

UK needs proof? Did May’s cabinet turn her down?

Merijn

It is good that I am not the President of Russia… I would have NUKED the U.S.A for spreading FAKE-ALLEGATIONS….

888mladen .

I wish you were. You would have done better job than Pusin.

Merijn

I would Have Poisoned BoJo the Clown, May & Williamson… Macroni would be Spaghetti and Israhell would be the New Atlantis…I have very little patience…

FlorianGeyer

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/20180102_trumpo.jpg

As you commanded Sir.

Merijn

Those are fake…maybe you can trick Trump…but I want real ones…

FlorianGeyer

mmmm , you Dutch folk are not so easily fooled . Apart from all those who voted for Mark Rutte of course :)

John Whitehot

There is also a large chance that trump is reenacting the old madman theory so dear to nixon

FlorianGeyer

Its certainly a way to get out of the life he lives at the moment , I agree John. If he does not rue the day he was elected , he truly is insane and unfit to lead.

Melania would be pleased as well if he retired, I am sure .

John Whitehot

to be honest i ‘m not even sure he’s the one (always) tweeting.

for what we know, there could be some cia, or pentagon, or mossad hacker using his account on his name. In that case, he would not be able to admit that he does not have control.

FlorianGeyer

I agree that he may not have control of his Twitt account but I would doubt it is being hacked . Even the dumbest in the WhiteHouse would surely close the account?

John Whitehot

hacked perhaps is not the right term.

i meant someone took control of his account – in that case i don’t think nobody in the whitehouse would close it.

the only reason Trump is still sitting there is that deep state does not need the public to inquire if the vote has been nullified with a silent coup.

FlorianGeyer

That’s true I think John. I wonder if Theresa May can survive the next few weeks if the local elections are as dire as expected for the Tories? If they are we may well have another election very soon. Frankly although I have always been a wee bit Right Wing, I would vote for Corbyn , even though it would hit my pocket.

Theresa May is more of a Girl Guide leader than Queen Elizabeth the First.

John Whitehot

“Frankly although I have always been a wee bit Right Wing ,I would vote for Corbyn”

imho right and left mean nothing more nowadays. if voting still has some value, i vote like this: I read the jewish owned mainstream media, and see who gets the more dirt thrown at. that’s the ones i vote for because if they are being grilled by zionists they must be doing something right.

for the little i’ve read, it seems Corbyn got under fire from jews in and out of his party, so i’d probably vote him too if i were a brit, although of late he seems to give out signals of “turning” – as in those zombie movies.

Wolfgang Wolf

oooooh yes, idiots…. i see some new artificial reefs already in the med sea, with american ships……

Nuno Cardoso da Silva

Trump is certifiably insane and I wonder whether he realizes the consequences of directly attacking Russian assets in Syria. Bluffing with Putin may be a deadly dangerous game…

Floyd Hazzard

Perhaps it will take Russia starting to move Iskanders into Syria for the war dogs to come to their senses.

hvaiallverden

One last warning, and this one goes to Russians, Mother Russia is under attack, and like the last time, the Bolshewicks/Commies, you will be betraied from within. Once again, your Gov. is week and meek, when we all know whom is your mortal enemy, the ones Lavrov and Putin is bowing for, the ones they never will do anything against, not even speak up against, yeah, becasue doing that is anti-semetism, isnt it Lavrov/Putin. ISISrael have been saughtering Russians, and Syrians, and what did Putin the Lam do, nothing, of course we are not anti-semits, right.

Russia and UssA is run by the Tribe, THAT, will be your doom, Russia, served on an silver plate to feed their masters in ISISrael.

Millions of christian Russians died the last time, millions will die this time to, and all done by your own Gov. again due to simply willfully ignorance and greed. They will winn this one Russia, thats the sad part of it. I dont belive Putin for an split second, when the UssA attacks, your Gov. will simply comply, like before, and let the rats flood your land and take it down, because of one thing, ISISrael and the Joojos, they will be your nemesis and this time, you have an choise, but I am afraid that window is closing as we speak, Putin is to week, like Trump, hampered by the Tribe.

Look around Russians, everything from economic embargoes to WADA, and Putin sits there with his head up His ass, and mumbles something about cooperation, yeah, make me wounder if they, are indeed brain damaged, like this bonkers twittering twat yappin staggering insane nonsense on the net, fake news my ass, Trumpstein the biggest and most heavily armed rats and whores money can by, when they refuse to deal with the sanctions and hate propaganda. Its remarkable silent. I would to two things, kick out every UssA corp and officials, and kick out every f…. Joojo along with their officials, and confiscate their assets and whatever they have, because I would give them 1 h. to get the f….. out of Russia, what to loose, when you can loose everything, anyway. There is always someone else, forget the UssA marked, thats dying as we speak, for decades to come due to debth, what Russia and Chine must do, is to focus on the rest of the world, the west isnt an marked anymore, is dead, killed by them self, the potential everywhere is massive, thats where the marked is, that one is what I want to rise and make it to be, the future of man.

Why even bother to deal with american phsycos, Russia, when they ineviatably will kill them self. Armageddon means trasition, not anything else, thats the original meaning of the word, not destruction, you have an choise, use it.

wakie wakie, Russia. Take an stand , united you will make it, divided you will not.

peace

Bob

If US and assorted NATO ships are sitting somewhere off Cyprus as has been reported – then they are too close to commence striking Syria – they are in ridiculously easy range of Russian counter attacks. That suggests there is a lot of NATO posturing going on at this point – with overt displays of hardware being shown. If US and other NATO ships are reported pulling right back to central Mediterranean, then things are likely to get more serious.

klove and light

sorry brothers…but u r all just guessing….stop bs here…. nobody knows how and when the zionist us motherfuckers r going to strike……….the payback by russia/syria/iran will be TIT for TAT.thats what the usa knows for sure.. …plane of ours..plane of yours………..and I seriously doubt that the zionist usa assholes have the balls to attack a RUSSIAN SHIP or SUBMARINE, russian S-400 or the Tartus naval base or Khmeimim air base. As long as these bases and ships and subs stay untouched….whatever missiles or bombs might impact in syria….has no way of slowing down the SAA advance in the country. And as long above mentioned dont get hit…russia will not retaliate either on us ships,subs or bases. Just remember brothers the tomahawk strikes a few months ago……the SAA airforce flew combat strikes just hours after the strike from exactly that base that was and I quote us administration ” utterly destroyed”!! Dont forget…trump is a hyped up president…were going to build a wall and mexico will pay for it. most of his tweets and interviews r just for the us public…alot of show…alot of bs…. ps. everybody forgets the strongest and till now most quiet actor in the middle east…..Persia also known as Iran.Iran has the potential to wipe out every US base in the middle east within 24 hours.and thats a quote of US admiral who quit under Obama for not being hawkish enough on Iran!!!

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