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U.S. M1A2 Abrams VS Russian T-14 Armata (Infographics)
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Once the Leopards and Abrams are in the field, the Russians can test their Armata tanks vs their intended targets. It is a sad escalation of the war, one that the European people do not want but it is forced upon them. Now we need to send even our advanced weaponry as the US pushes for more war not less.
Russia only produced a dozen of them, if one of them is destroyed it will lower exports
more likey artillery and attack drone + surveillance drone that will take out these Leopards and Abrams.
What about poor technical skill of RF military NCO’s to repair tanks as was witnessed during first weeks of the war?
Answer a question with a pointless question?
Face it, russian armed forces are kicking nato ass with an arm tied behind them.
Thats the reality, not whatever fantasy land you live in.
Remember its artillery tubes that win wars.
To find an answer one just needs to look at the results.
Yes but better idea is to stop them ever getting to the battle,destroy all railway hubs and crossings coming in from Poland and do it every day if they have to,and they should hit all airports.
That was the way Allied in 1944 made it Germans not to supply tanks, ammo and fuel enough to Normandy using massive deep penetrating air attacks. VVS in east had not such long ranged air power.
The M-1’s need specialized maintenance support and the Ukrainians can’t provide it, they will be in parades and shows, etc….If any do make it to the front, they won’t be making it back. Now, the German tanks are decent but way too few of them being sent to makes any real difference.
One criteria is missing, that makes a lot of difference… “battle proven”
You could also compare the year they entered service. Or the years when they were designed.
You mean Russian T14 is more Hi-tech than the Hoped US Abraham’s???
20 hight tech t14 armata compared to 1000+ not so high tech Abrams ? is there even a contest here? T72 everyone knows how it compares to Leopard 2A6 o M1A2 Abrams.
T-34/76 was not near as reliable as M4 Sherman. That fact is backed by tens of studies. Same with T-54 compared to first line western tanks of that era. There are certain features why Russian production and maintaining sector is lagging behind western standards.
OK, give us a list of those features.
The US WW2 Sherman tank was known as the ‘Tommy Cooker’ because the petrol tank was a weak point when hit by a Panzerfaust.
You have no idea what are you writting.
USSR tanks were diesel powered, M4 used a modified aircraft engine, a radial one! Almost 300hp, while T-34 was 600hp.
We all know how to read, we visited museums and did our homework.
#wearenotimbeciles
T-34 is top 1 in one criteria. It is most destroyed tank during military history.
Because the Russians were fighting the panzer divisions at their best. If the US armored divisions of 1944 with Shermans had faced full strength 1943 panzer divisions (especially the Waffen SS) with Panthers, Tigers. Panzer 4’s and assault guns with no air power advantage the US divisions would have been slaughtered.
Are we still fighting the WWII, hey genius?
The Sherman was JUNK. I have read MANY WW-2 articles in WW2 German sources and NONE ever said the Sherman was better than the T34 in any way.
The most important difference may be ground pressure.
which isn’t given.
M1A2SEP3 is surely 70 tonnes.
82 ton full armour pack
Why is no one talking logistics here? NATO tanks need a huge logistics chain to supply and repair them probably based in Poland, where Russia has a huge logistics hub locally, also how can the crews compare? Hastily trained crews of the UAF? No the NATO tanks will be crushed and at the same time it will teach the Russian armed forces exactly how to kill them.
When it comes to logistics, American military tough not perfect at all do have upper hand over Russian one. First months in Ukraine didn’t give clean sheet to Russian military even though their logistic chain has certain benefits. Perhaps their logistic system will work better now.
The real comparison will be made on the battlefield when one emerges victorious over the other.
By the way, Germany has finally agreed to Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine. It also gave the permission for other countries to send those tanks. They are more advanced than Russia’s.
Erdogan threatened Assad, threatened Sisi, threatened the Saudis and now he is going to normalize with all of them.
From the pro-American uprising, favored by the Americans, of 2014, when they tried to kill him, and he was saved in time by the Russians, who warned him of the coup, saving himself on a helicopter, Erdogan has since woken up. His friends wanted him dead! What friends!
Erdogan has always liked Iran but normalization with Assad or Sisi? It means that he cannot do much.
Erdogan was a friend of Al Assad! Then he listened to the Americans, letting the terrorist rats enter Syria, and the friendship rightly fell apart. I don’t know much about Sisi, I know that Turkey supported pro-American terrorists in the small territory of Tripoli, while Egypt supported Kalifa Haftar in Benghazi, and it seems to me that Benghazi is in the Russian orbit.
He was but he changed. The government in Tripoli are not that pro-American, more pro-Turkish and pro-Italian.
Tactical normalization. We already got them in Libya. Erdogan abandoned America’s Syrian project since 2016. But he isn’t going to normalize with Assad if Assad wants to continue his unconditional dictatorship over Syrians. Had Assad not been dragging his feet about negotiating with the opposition, he would have normalized ties with Turkey long ago. But mark my words, this normalization will NOT happen if Assad expects Erdogan to throw the Syrian opposition under the bus.
What dictatorship? What Syrian opposition? Those US sponsored opposition?
From that logics, Syrians prefer honest dictators helping them surviving against US sponsored terrorists than a US selected puppet plundering their country.
Tactical, because cunning Erdogan wants to take on SDF/US alone and not on the whole Ru/SAA army.
Look at this bullshit I farted out again… a true excrement in text form… im such a proud muslim, so much that i swallow anythign that comes at me from lloyd austins bbc…
Show me the specs or are you shooting out from your funnel?
Aramata is almost 1 meter taller making it easier to spot and hit. What were the designers thinking?
If you watch the pictures, that extra height is due to the extra turret that has the machine gun. It is not vital part,if it is hit no problem for the main turret,it will still work.
Armata has lower height until the top of the main turret,that is what matters.
You’re being selective, there are many aspects of the Armata that are far more superior, such as autoloading, operational range, speed and ability to fire more barrels of ammunition. Try again Ivan.
M1 is from the 1980s. Kornet-M’s should take care of them. Just for laughs, the Russians should capture a few and parade them in the museum where relics lie from Hitler and Napoleon’s era. It would be worth a visit.
The introduction of the M1A2 shows the desperation and failure of the globalists Ukraine project and may represent their last chance at world domination before either slipping away into obscurity and transformation into 3rd world nations or a reckless further escalation with tragic consequences.
May their plans fail miserably and burn in hell
quantity matters : more then 10.000 abrams are out there (parts and pieces, too ! ;))
T-14 … 20?
And the US will be willying to send all thise 20.000 M1s to ukraine? Doubt
Most likely, yes. And Bradleys, and every piece of junk they may have in store. Maybe 50000.Western tanks and 200000 IFV and APC and converted MRAPs etc. will end up in Ukraine.
Not a chance they will end up in Ukraine, they don’t have enough manpower to man those vehicles.
you blind fish , 10.000 is not 20.000! and all over the world….
there are only T14 is 20 – maybe 30 max – so they need only 200 in worst cast to kill all T14
and even one molotov-cocktail will kill both each of them – too much sensors on the outside!
your childish trolling is stupid!!!
So what, t90m is more than capable of defeating any abrams out there.
Its not 10000 its 6000. Anyways the su25 will eat those tanks for breakfast.
are you sure, they dont be man-ed by west in march/april? go deep in thinking and tell us – what is the endgame by ukra/zelenski?
….. …. … the full envolvment by balkans and poles – later by west europe and us – doubts?
Try shipping those Abrams from the US to Ukraine, they won’t get out of their harbours, never mind cross the Atlantic.
The US will be removing their armour and replacing it with normal steel to prevent the Russians analysing the armour composite. They are removing the electronic systems. They will basically be sardine cans with Ukrainian meat in them, that look nevertheless like the Abrams enough to embarrass Americans
What if all rail bridges across the river are blown up. How will the piggies send the tanks. They are heavy and require rail transport. I hope the Russians are preparing all options. The oink oink brigades will have to cancel a few transvestitie drag shows to think this one trough
Russian tanks are less tall, have active and passive protection. Active protection is a recent novelty, they are explosive charges that destroy incoming enemy projectiles, before hitting the armor. Passive protection is that of standard armor plus additional armor or layers of material to stop incoming projectiles. Abrams tanks have only passive protection. And also, I understand, that one of the armor layers of the entire tank is made of radioactive “depleted” uranium !!!!!!!! The crews, of course, are beamed from gamma rays!!!!!!!!!!!!!
carpet bombing
Copying the playbook of USA during to the vietnam era, TU95 shall be used to carpet bomb all entry points from Poland into Ukraine on a daily basis. Some may slip through …
But please allow human to flee from the area before dispatching bombs – this part dont follow the USA thanks
Guys, Abrams is 220km operational range off road. 400km is on road only, plain terrain. With jet fuel.
Haha Nazis use worse tanks than Russia
Tanks on tanks battles are rare , basically a fantasy for WoT or War Thunder players. As said earlier in this thread , once spotted and without cover : it’s endgame. I strongly agree. Plus , you have to remember the Russians invented flying anti-tanks tanks with the IL2 back in the day… and perfected the concept since.
This ground attack aircraft versus tanks case during WW2 has been studied and myths of these aircraft “wiping out thousands of enemy tanks” have been debunked. They were not even near as effective. According both German and Soviet studies hardly more than 2% of tank losses were caused by enemy aircraft. In west not much higher percentage.
Ground attack aircraft had no guided weapons, limited ammo, weaponry very inaccurate. For instance British studies found than in battle they needed 3000 bombs or over 800 rockets to shoot target to get one panzer knocked out or destroyd. Germans were not any better. Less than 2% of French AFV losses in 1940 were caused by any Lufwaffe aircraft including medium bombers. When it comes to Battle of Kursk German panzers destroyed by Soviet aircraft were very rare. Of all tanks 1st Tank Army of Red Army lost in Citadel only 1,8% was caused by Luftwaffe. Myths should be debunked even if fanboyz don’t like it.
there is nothing more cringe than those war thunder gaymers who think war consists of 1v1 tank duels in some kind of flat open arena…
In fact, most tanks in this war get destroyed by artillery… once again the west/nazis rely on clunky, overengineered and inefficient vehicles that were designed to fight weekend wars against 3rd world insurgents.
Has the Armata even been used yet? The comparison is a bit off. since the Abrams has been around for much longer. Sure, it is an utterly important question how well the crew performs. Abrams is battle-proven, even though the Armata may actually be the better tank.
Most of tanks lost in war are likely caused by technical logistical issues. Lack of fuel, spare parts etc, dust, sunk on water, broke on road marches..even. Russian army lost tens of tanks during first weeks when been unable to evacuate these broken/jammed tanks.
Unfortunately, there is little evidence that Russia have any operational T-14 Armata tanks available in the field.
Ahora los tanques son obsoletos AL MENOS ESO OPINAN LOS QUE SABEN un par de drones antitanques basicos suicidas con 50 kilos de explosivos comunes de tnt debe ser suficiente para borrar del mapa a los famosos leopardos alemanes LO QUE SI IMPORTA SON LOS AVIONES DE GUERRA AVANZADOS !!!
POR CIERTO YA EXISTE DE FACTO UN ESTADO DE GUERRA ENTRE ALEMANIA Y RUSIA LA HISTORIA SE REPITE LOS HOMBRES NUNCA APRENDEN DE SUS VIEJOS ERRORES !!
3.3 m height is kind of stinky