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NOVEMBER 2024

U.S. Regime Wins the Propaganda-War on Ukraine While Losing the Real War

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U.S. Regime Wins the Propaganda-War on Ukraine While Losing the Real War

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Written by Eric Zuesse

It is obvious that, at least in The West, the U.S. side has already overwhelmingly won the propaganda-war part of the war against Russia in the battlefields of Ukraine; however, what about the ultimate military and diplomatic sides of that war — what will be the war’s outcome, in fact (even if not in myth)? 

Among the great geostrateic analysts I’ve seen on the war in Ukraine, all of whom have been way ahead of the mainstream-media commentators in predictions that have subsequently been demonstrated by events to have been true on this war, have been especially Alexander Mercouris, Gonzalo Lira, Brian Berletic, Scott Ritter, and Douglas Macgregor. Three of these five — Mercouris, Lira, and Berletic — appeared together on March 7th in a 130-minute discussion of the war; and, as always before, they explained and referenced undisputed facts about what has been happening there, and argued on that factual basis that America’s chances for winning that war (the real war) against Russia, are now clearly close to zero, if not already there: already inevitable defeat of the United States, in its war against Russia, in the battlefields of Ukraine.

Their discussion was so comprehensive, and so indisputably true on the established facts of the matter, that I strongly recommend anyone who thinks that Ukraine and NATO still stand a reasonable chance to defeat Russia in this war, ought to view it, and then I invite any such person please to comment below here (or else at the youtube of their discussion) in order to explain why you disagree with their analysis:

It’s at youtube

 

 

and also at The Duran LINK

and is titled, at both, “Bakhmut heats up w/Brian Berletic and Gonzalo Lira” and is dated on 7 March 2023, at both sites.

All are invited to participate here, (or at either of those sites) in this discussion.

Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s new book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory, and Why the Social Sciences Need to Change, is about how America took over the world after World War II in order to enslave it to U.S.-and-allied billionaires. Their cartels extract the world’s wealth by control of not only their ‘news’ media but the social ‘sciences’ — duping the public.

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bert33

They reported 130 russian armor units destroyed in a single day but never backed up the report with anything. A lot of creative writing going on these days calling itself ‘news’, and not just about ukraine.

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Vlad

They will follow up with video game footage, patience my matrix friend.

jens holm

You infect it Yourself bringing this propaganda version.

Why dont You next time dig deeper and find more sober well existig numbers as well as indications. There are large numbers of more sober ones.

You right here spread “news” Yourself. The trick for bringing many comments and articles is the wrong ones can be erased and forgotten as a “no way”.

7even-N-6

I do like the 2 Greeks, the Chilean and Brian but honestly they’ve been way off just as much as they’ve been on point from time to time. I remember when Gonzalo Lira kept predicting that the CIA was about to assassinate Zelensky and the Greeks kept predicting that western Europeans will be freezing in the winter without Russian gas and that Russia’s winter offensive will be devastating, none of which ever happened. Either way they’re still better than CNN and BBC lol.

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Tobi999

We did not freeze but lost our economy and industries! and people are now in debts! That weren’t before!

7even-N-6

Yes i know that. Western Europe is bearing the economic brunt of this war.

jens holm

I take it again. Kapitalisme has its ups and downs and exist becaue its flexible and rapaidly can change.

Here we have a high level to decline from for a period. Most likely we will elevate again. Its possible we can deline even more.

Vlad

Zelensky double spotted. The poor Greeks and Europeans are always freezing and are also hungry! War only makes millions and nowadays billions poorer and hungry as they flee the rich and corrupt war machine. Get a fkn grip people, this ain’t fkn football!!!

jens holm

European has beter life conditions then ever.

Zelinsky is an unimportant dwarf in this and the Putin infection worse even after a lot a soap and and antivirus program.

Eric Zuesse

Your are wrong: Gonzalo Lira was predicting months ago that Valerii Zaluzhnyi or other top Ukrainian generals might have Zelensky assassinated because they strongly disagree with his military instructions. That’s very different from “the CIA was about to assassinate Zelensky.”

7even-N-6

Ok let me give you the direct link to Gonzalo Lira’s video stating that the USA was going to assassinate Zelensky Here you go https://thesaker.is/gonzalo-lira-zelensky-is-about-to-be-assassinated-by-the-americans/

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JerryDrakeJr

He will be assasinated… the question is, when?

jens holm

Putin is a clone. So far they have only problems with hair below incuding.

The USA moon landing program use his skull as pilot project. This time they might land at the ECCO ECCO region, which is rather big. Lidar seemes to have found a not updated Win95.

7even-N-6

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Christopher

Valhalla Take 2 perhaps.

jens holm

Most likely You found assassinated close to Your own as.

JerryDrakeJr

You have heard of the term “golden billion”, and it refers to, compared to other nations on the planet, the economically rich nations of Europe and North America. There was enough capital stock to last the winter, but it is now very likely a “silver billion”! If we take into account that the EU has permanently lost access to extremely cheap sources of energy and raw materials, the European nations will really find themselves in a situation where they are freezing, but not because they will not have anything to warm themselves with, but because they will not have anything to pay for. Of course, the European nations will look for a way out as they have always done since written history… by war! The problem is that the technological advantage is no longer on their side, so that for the first time in the history of human civilization, European nations are inferior both technologically and economically compared to other strong players on this planet.

Sylvain

Actually, this situation is good for us..We do need hard times in the cold with light stomachs to sort many things in France.

Christopher

Right across Europe, not just France. Maybe a repeat of 1775 -1848.

Sylvain

I prefer to give my opinion only about my own country :-)

jens holm

I allow me to add Denmark. We have chages but handle them relative well.

Christopher

Well it was ‘your country’ which set it off in 1775. ;-)

7even-N-6

I agree with almost everything you wrote as times have changed as they always do eventually and western Europe is no longer the leading protagonist on the world stage anymore. The thing is in all honesty people are believing the pundits and so called analysts when they boldly yell out that NATO is now a weak, fractured and easily beatable entity of which I strongly disagree with. Nations with a population of over 1.2 billion people if you include Australia, NZ, Israel, South Korea and Japan have joined forces throughout the world to subjugate Russia. As a symbiotic force, NATO and allies have the capacity to outproduce Russia militarily by a margin of at least 5 to 1 and I am being conservative. As everyone can see the China and allies of Russia factor is very inconsequential as China must be prudent not to get too involved in the war lest they want to get severely sanctioned.

7even-N-6

Ukraine is the perfect launching ground for NATO to wage war against Russia as they could care less about the suffering of the Ukrainian canon fodder of which Zelensky has around another 2 or 3 million men that he can kidnap and send to the front lines and NATO is now mass producing weapons in Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Germany, the US, Japan, South Korea at turbo speeds etc and shipping it to the front lines. NATO is officially in War Economy Mode and I have been getting grilled for stating that Russia needs to expedite the SMO and unleash its aerial fury on Ukraine’s energy and electrical infrastructure and finish the job preferably by this year sometime because Russia did a phenomenal job demilitarizing Ukraine for the first 7 months of the SMO but now NATO is ‘remilitarizing” Ukraine and will keep Russia in a perpetual quagmire, making Russia waste its resources.

jens holm

Most of that is created lies and some are even before Stalin ones.

Europe is not in any version of Nato economy mode.

We have not collapsed because we dint have a highly corrupt one strig system. If we elect bad leaders we as routie can replace them and do.

Thats where Your focus should be if Russia is Your home. People like me which are interested knows more about Russia then most of the Russians.

By open sources we also can compore well. You should wonder who ias Russia. Is it Putin & Co. Today is yes.

jens holm

Compared to this Russia is Spain or the Nordic countries.

jens holm

Your fantasy story has no contact to Our world. I live in it.

Kapitalisme buy best to the price and adapt changes well. Russia WAS a part of Europe. WAS.

Next time You collapse Yourself(we hacve not collapsed) You should tryHarpo Marx. He think and dont talk so much.

Almost all partsof Europe is connected to Western Economics. It make no sense Your fantasies try to disconnect us and our many affiliates.

Even Russians Oligarcs prefare to invest here. We have so many incommers. You should winder why. 4 mio russians has left.

leviathan

Absolutely right, Russia has many internal problems; assassinating journalists and politicians, corrupt state, out of date food in shops, brain drain millions, no investment outside Moscow, etc, etc. Vast topic for a separate thread.

But those are Russia domestic issues are not the business of NATO. Not a justification for NATO to keep expanding east to provoke Russia, betraying Minsk accords for peace in Ukraine, and imposing self sanctions on its own NATO people and businesses stopping them from buying resources it needs from Russia , and now USA blowing up joint infrastructure between Russia and Germany, the Nord Stream gas pipelines. Also NATO banning all travel with Russians.

This is unacceptable bullying violent international behaviour that NATO has been doing for 40 years. Now in Ukraine it stops.

leviathan

well many houses in central europe burning rubbish not to freeze. In the UK well documented, even in normal media, many pensioners are barely heating themselves, of course their conclusion is ‘blame Brexit’, the liars. I myself wear a hat inside my home after lowering temperatures. So the greeks are not too far off the truth on freezing in the winter.

Matt

Unlike LOSING the war and LOSING the propoganda campaign for it’s host Syria given their friend$ in Tel Aviv?!!!

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Vlad

Where the rubber meets the road. Where Hollywood productions meets the real Russian meat grinders, called no mans land. Remember what happens over there will be happening here as the song goes.

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720 y. o. Big Guy SENILE sleepy Joe aka Pedo Peter

The truth is that DC and the EU invested billions of tax dollars and tax euros in the anti Russia propaganda. Russia on the other hand didnt have these resources to invest and didnt want to invest in contra propaganda, because the truth is with her. And she knows that sooner or later the world will see the facts by themselves. And the reality is, believe or not, step by step she is wining the war. The narrative in the West is changing, the protests against NATO are increasing. A good example was the NBC report about Crimea.

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Very strange version. Befire that and for many years the USSR Empire not even tryed to keep what it had stolen from the local population all the way to west of DDR.

And whats taxpayers money. Everyone and even the poorest pay tax here. Its because be get back i wellfare and fx live longer and better.

Those taxpayers also vote and decide what´the incomming money are used for or against.

So taxpayers money are in open budgets wirth priorities. Yiu can find them in details at the internet as well as on our libraries. And one thing for sure: They are not Yours unless You live there.

One rapport from Crimea dont eliminate the many dayli killed by missiles by Rusticans at all as well as meatgrinding several 100 prisoners i Bakmut or more. No way. .

Mr. Guldar Tate Esquire

The lame stream corporate media In the west always goes on with inflated Russian casualties but never seems to mention any Ukrainian casualties. Clear indicator to a normal human being that something isn’t right.

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jens holm

You must be highly censured.

We have so many contacts to and from there every day. None has to see the offical govermenthal propaganda version only.

But You are right. One version is You are not capable or dare to find that information. Another is You are highly censured away from Facebbok to Meduca and adde restrictios with jail for trying.

We have 35.000 Ukras here. many 1000s of them has dayli contct to relatives and friends in Uraine. Text, videos and pictures might lie but not so many. Its normal people

Erase my post again and again...

Eric, if you want your media links to stay active, use Brighteon.com instead of the enemy’s SMC (social media cartel).

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JGarbo

“Deeds not Words”. TV interviews don’t stop bullets. PR “victories” are stupid and futile. An artillery shell into you foxhole wins.

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Christopher

Wars are won on the battlefield, and the losing side will be NATO and the US.

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jens holm

Soon the last Russians will only be in the diasporas.

Christopher

Russians are not Ashkenazi Jewish.

bunker

“It is obvious that, at least in The West, the U.S. side has already overwhelmingly won the propaganda-war part of the war ”

Mealy mouthed BS statement. Is the war over yet? Do the surge of protests mean anything? Get out of the bunker bunkie.

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jens holm

Won is because we are right.

In UN 141 countries were for Russia retreat. 7 was for remain Mali included :)

leviathan

No, the western side has lost the propaganda war.

If you into telegram Russia coverage Ukraine media is whining for more stuff, bleating on what ‘good’ losers on the right side of civilisation we are, while russia media is much more purposeful, upbeat, aggressive with simple clear message claiming we are winning saving Donbass. The Russia State has much more positive single clear message, compares to multitude of speakers on the NATO side.

Western TV channels like BBC and the French ‘la Chaine Information’ LCI gives a weak, ‘I’m not really sure what we are doing’ impression, or ‘I’m hiding the truth with bullshit speculation theories or irrelevant coverage’.

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leviathan

Big publicity of NATO’s extensive State funded support for Ukraine, has played right into russia propaganda hands that they are fighting NATO.

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