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UK Backs Future US Military Action Against Syria, But Admits There Is No Evidence

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UK Backs Future US Military Action Against Syria, But Admits There Is No Evidence

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UK Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon said on Tuesday that his country is committed to any future US military actions against Syria and its military forces.

“As always in war, the military action you use must be justified, it must be legal, it must proportionate, it must be necessary. In the last case it was. If the Americans take similar action again, I want to be very clear, we will support it,” Fallon  told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

Fallon’s statement followed the White House’s claims that it has some “potential” evidence that the Bashar Assad government was preparing for a chemical weapons attack that “would likely result if the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children” in Syria. The White House added in a statement that if this is done, Syria and its militarywill pay a heavy price.”

However, the UK defense secretary revealed that the US had not shared any specific evidence with the British Government about the chemical attack preparations. He added that he expected to discuss the situation with US Defence Secretary General James Mattis.

“Jim Mattis did review the various options with me last time before the final meeting with the President. I shall be seeing Secretary Mattis at the Nato meeting on Thursday. This is one of the matters we expect to review,” Fallon added.

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Mountains

loooooooooool. He never said there is no evidence. What has SF become first forcing the Military spokesman to say he concedes that they lost the border and eastern syria war and now this..

Nor did this man admit to anything and the same goes to spokesman Dillion

John Whitehot

“However, the UK defense secretary revealed that the US had not shared any specific evidence with the British Government about the chemical attack preparations. He added that he expected to discuss the situation with US Defence Secretary General James Mattis.”

what part did you not understand?

Mountains

No read the qoute not what the journalist have added to this.. You are just quoting the journalist in that part

John Whitehot

“He said the US has been monitoring the situation in Syria, but admitted it had not shared any specific evidence with the British Government about the regime preparations.Sir Michael explained that he expected to discuss the current position with US Defence Secretary General James Mattis when they meet at a gathering of Nato defence ministers later this week.”

This is from independent.com http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michael-fallon-uk-syria-military-action-bashar-al-assad-chemical-weapons-regime-us-donald-trump-a7809796.html

PlatosLittleSister

personally for the life of me i cant see what assad has to gain at this stage to launch a chemical attack.

far more likely the americans are looking for an excuse to bomb syrian&allies forces at the iraqi border, raqqah and aleepo.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-27/after-getting-busted-bombing-syria-based-lie-trump-doubles-down-%E2%80%A6-threatens-bomb-syr

FlorianGeyer

Exactly.

FlorianGeyer

Mountains, What part of the communique do your handlers NOT want you to understand ?

PlatosLittleSister

Plato has had to give Socrates another cup of hemlock, hermes is in his room and wont come out aphrodite has turned celibate finally Zeus has stormed off telling everyone to get stuffed he is done.

Wahid Algiers

The US can’ t share any specific evidence yet because it is not prepared until now in their brewery. But they will.

David Robertson

This has all the hallmarks of a false flag in preparation as President Putin indicated some time ago after the last “chemical attack” alleged to have been perpetrated by the Syrian Air Force.

“Mad Dog” Mattis has recently moved the narrative into the “annihilation” zone, with the apparent support of President Trump, his supporters and the war hungry Democrats. (U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!) He says ISIS but no doubt he means everyone still breathing, including the local wildlife. That would certainly solve the refugee problem at the source and help the immigration problems in the U.S. and the EU.

What this means of course is that the Pentagon is dead set on widening the war leading inevitably to a confrontation with Russia and Iran. I personally believe this is what will happen and it will result in a nuclear conflagration in that region and the destruction of Jerusalem and the Jewish State. This will have the effect of bringing the insanity to an end by eliminating the root cause of the conflict, the ambitions of the Jewish leaders and their allies for a Greater Israel and ultimately world domination.

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David Robertson Your ideas are beyond wishful thinking.

Putin considers both Netanyahu and Israel as best friends of Russia and Putin wants (non Muslim) immigration from Israel into Russia.

There will be no Nuclear conflagration because Israel has stated its Samson Option, if it is destroyed, Israel will destroy majority of the main cities around the world.

Germany has supplied gratis free, many submarines to Israel for carrying that task.

David Robertson

(As far as this being wishful thinking, God knows I have no such wish. If the prophecy in Isaiah 29 can be interpreted as a national conversion to Christ that would be my wish, rather than a physical destruction. I have prayed to that end.)

What you say is indeed true, or at least factual. It may however come to pass that the Jewish leaders will themselves destroy their own State using the nuclear missiles carried by these six submarines.

The purpose of such a self immolation would be to evoke sympathy for the remaining survivors (including the leading families) as the destruction would be attributed to other actors, in other words a false flag. These leaders have form in this particular way of thinking.

This possibility was suggested in an article by an Israeli dissident who had sought asylum in Bolivia but who had to leave that country due to pressure on the Bolivian government from Israel. He may since have been killed by the Mossad or on their orders, as that was his expectation. I believe that was in 2012 if my memory serves correctly. He wrote under the name Roy Tov and his website has been redesigned and archived at http://www.roytov.com, probably by his supporters. The article I mentioned is under the link to “Articles” at that website.

Night Wind

This follows a few probing raids by America’s proxies in Israel. My suspicion is that they are either testing Russia’s response or that they plan to use Israel as a pawn like they used ISIS before.

Wahid Algiers

I think Israel is misusing the US in protection AND aussault items with the strong US-Jew-community in the US in the back.

goingbrokes

US does not use Israel as a pawn, it is the other way round.

Gerhard Pleyer

England wird auch vom zioNazis gesteuert wie Nazi-Germany und United Snakes of America.

Solomon Krupacek

you have good weed

I guess you missed all the news headlines around the world… Nationalist-Germany lost the war, and the Communist took and chunk and the Jews took the other chunk. Today Germany is ruled by a woman who was a high ranking Communist officer named Merkel. They swear allegiance to the Zionist flag and fight for globalization and to racially replace the indigenous population of the ancestral Germanic-home-lands. Communist won the second world war, so that brings us up to speed on how we got to where we are today. http://ihr.org/

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Real Anti-Racist Action Its better to change the Z word to Neoconservatives.

Gerhard Pleyer

Aber bald werden Syrer gagen teufel israel zurückschalgen und TellAviv wird umgewandelt in Hell Aviv.

Wahid Algiers

Na hoffentlich. Schöneres würde es gar nicht geben.

Manuel Flores Escobar

This Puppet know that Russia are ready to attack NATO air bases in Baltic countries, beside antimissile shields in Poland and Romania in case of US coalition massive attack vs Syria!…these NATO puppets are an easy target for Russian cruise missile ships in Baltic( admiral Gorshkov,admiral Makarov and Lada class Submarine), beside Iskander-M/K and BastionP…no need air force to destroy that assets!…..if anybody think that NATO will launch attacks vs nuclear power Russia federation take a look to Nuclear North Korea where USA have been stopped!

Solomon Krupacek

This Puppet know that Russia are ready to attack NATO air bases in Baltic countries, beside antimissile shields in Poland and Romania in case of US coalition massive attack vs Syria!

you should not use drugs

Manuel Flores Escobar

Drugs only use terrorist( Captagon) supply by USA/SAUDI/ISRAEL to theirs dogs!..Russia will attack NATO bases in Baltic countries! then Russia etnic citizens will be in danger there and Russia will deploy thousands of troops near borders…meanwhile Petrol and gas prices will raise!

Solomon Krupacek

russia will not attack anything. finish with drugs

Manuel Flores Escobar

thats what people said to me when I wrote in 2015 in a web that Russia was ready to intervene in Syria and launch airstrike!…it was when terrorist retake Idlib and move to latakia!…read again!…Russia will attack Baltic countries ( NATO air bases) and antimissile shield in Poland ( under construction)!

Solomon Krupacek

and attacked the baltic countires? or do you live in alternative world?

Manuel Flores Escobar

Russia attacked maidan terrorist in Crimea and built air base in latakia!…no attacks vs Baltic countries and No attacks vs US coalition or israel in Syria….Russia will attacks NATO air bases in Baltic countries in case of new massive attacks vs Syrian air bases!…thats all!.. 2 frigates one submarine are now deployed in Baltic sea waiting attack order as well as Iskander-k system!. Dont start to contradict me like Talmud reciters!

888mladen .

Past behaviors determines the future ones. You cannot predict current trends without taking in consideration the past ones. What we do today depends on what we did yesterday. There is always a tread of consistency in human behavior which needs to be taken into account. In other words there is always a pattern in past behaviors which you need to capture in order to determine the future ones correctly. Use this as a tool and you will arrive to the most likely scenario in Syrian case.

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Manuel Flores Escobar You need to accept Putin – Russian policy of do nothing or wait and see in Syria.

Manuel Flores Escobar

I said that Putin will do not nothing in Syria scenario!…Russia will do in Baltic scenario…1º Phase cruise missile attacks vs Siauliai and Amari air base and antimissile shields in Poland…..2º Phase cruise missile attack vs antimissile shield in Romania and naval base in Bulgaria!…of course Russian military staff know there will no military retaliation from NATO vs Russia and instead there will be divisions among allies!

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Solomon Krupacek Majority of the posts here refuse to accept Putin – Russian policy of do nothing or wait and see in Syria.

Bottom line: Russia will do nothing.

Solomon Krupacek

better said: will not do enough.

Barba_Papa

I think this falls under the category ‘Dance, American puppet, dance!’

As is usual the 51st US State follows the US into whatever idiocy it has concocted.

paul

Fallon is a complete toady. The uk is just a grovelling vessel of the usa. It has no foreign policy other than to arse lick the americans.

Floyd Hazzard

Lol…Tony Blair clone

Terence Silvestre Jr.

Just like the foolish and lying Israelies pretexts of last weekend to justify bombing Syrian government positions and supporting the damned terrorists. Now it will be the turn of their American master making such false and stupid excuses that no one with any common sense would never believe them. For at that time what benefits and military advantages would the Syrian government take by killing innocent civilians with chemical attacks? The only beneficiaries of always are the same damn terrorists to the services of the damn government of the United States of America, manufacturer and sponsor par excellence of international terrorism.

John Mason

Exactly Terence, they should be more concerned of their illegal actions, killing of civilians and military personel and the consequences they will have to face when the war is over. Hopefully the Hague will be busy for some time.

888mladen .

You need to understand better the nature of the kangaroo court in Hague and the purpose of its existence. The tribunal has been created by them and for them in order to make sure neither of them is ever brought to justice. It’s more likely that Putin will find himself in its dock one day like Slobodan Milosevic than anybody from the criminal Illuminati shadow government. So don’t pin any hope of yours on it is my advice cause It’s a false hope.

John Mason

Exactly my point, maybe not as direct as yours. Hague is a joke so is the UN, ICC, ICJ because the US controls them hence the justification of their existence. Putin will never end up at the Hague, US/NATO will find ‘another way’ eventually.

John Mason

Never heard so much sh+t coming out of such a deranged person. Maybe he should get some advice for the definition of ‘legal’, he hasn’t got the faintest clue of its’ meaning. UK, US and France are 3 permanent members of the UNSC and are the cause of all the major conflicts globally and destroying the functions of the UN Charter.

Rüdiger Preiss

Tory loser! Soon he’ll be gone with the rest of the Neocons. Jezza for PM!!

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Rüdiger Preiss

For Labour to get into power, needs a guy like Ed Milliband to come back.

Ed Milliband stopped Cameron’s plans for UK Military action in the UK Parliament. He has a Jewish background and is more decent and honorable than majority of the MPs in the UK Parliament.

chris chuba

I am very tolerant of people who disagree with me but I think it is fair to say that there is a line where someone can be branded a lunatic. If you say … ‘we have no evidence that something is true but will take or support military action as if it is true’ then you are a lunatic.

List of lunatics … Nikki Haley (easy call) Sir Michael Fallon (Brits suffer from too many decades of drinking coal tainted Thames river water)

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chris chuba Fallon is just a nodding dog on the rear shelf of an old British car The UK will not take part in any Military attack on Syria.

Ma_Laoshi

There are two kinds of insane people: the ones who talk into their shoes and eat out of waste bins–and sociopaths. You can walk around the former. You CANNOT turn your back on the latter. Sociopaths are often successful, rising to the top of competitive fields. The trail of destruction they leave in their wake only convinces them they deserve it.

Justin Ryan

Sorry to interrupt ur comment but i think u mean “psychopaths”! Psychopaths are the ones who reach the top in business and politics! My partner is a Psychologist and she know the statistics!

Psychopaths are much more dangerous than a sociopath!

” Key traits that sociopaths and psychopaths have in common, include:

A disregard for laws and social mores A disregard for the rights of others A failure to feel remorse or guilt A tendency to display violent behaviour

In addition to their commonalities, sociopaths and psychopaths also have their own unique behavioural characteristics, as well.

Sociopaths tend to be nervous and easily agitated. They are volatile and prone to emotional outbursts, including fits of rage. They are likely to be uneducated and live on the fringes of society, unable to hold down a steady job or stay in one place for very long. It is difficult but not impossible for sociopaths to form attachments with others. Many sociopaths are able to form an attachment to a particular individual or group, although they have no regard for society in general or its rules. In the eyes of others, sociopaths will appear to be very disturbed. Any crimes committed by a sociopath, including murder, will tend to be haphazard, disorganized and spontaneous rather than planned.

Psychopaths, on the other hand, are unable to form emotional attachments or feel real empathy with others, although they often have disarming or even charming personalities. Psychopaths are very manipulative and can easily gain people’s trust. They learn to mimic emotions, despite their inability to actually feel them, and will appear normal to unsuspecting people. Psychopaths are often well educated and hold steady jobs. Some are so good at manipulation and mimicry that they have families and other long-term relationships without those around them ever suspecting their true nature.

When committing crimes, psychopaths carefully plan out every detail in advance and often have contingency plans in place. Unlike their sociopathic counterparts, psychopathic criminals are cool, calm, and meticulous. Their crimes, whether violent or non-violent, will be highly organized and generally offer few clues for authorities to pursue. Intelligent psychopaths make excellent white-collar criminals and “con artists” due to their calm and charismatic natures.

The cause of psychopathy is different than the cause of sociopathy (1). It is believed that psychopathy is the largely the result of “nature” (genetics) while sociopathy is more likely the result of “nurture” (environment). Psychopathy is related to a physiological defect that results in the underdevelopment of the part of the brain responsible for impulse control and emotions. Sociopathy, on the other hand, is more likely the product of childhood trauma and physical/emotional abuse. Because sociopathy appears to be learned rather than innate, sociopaths are capable of empathy in certain limited circumstances but not in others, and with a few individuals but not others.”

Ma_Laoshi

You describe the psychopath well; sometimes these *dangerous* people are called sociopaths, though this may be more in the popular media and not in your partner’s circle of trained psychologists.

Bob

NATO really are on verge of losing this – they are getting embarrassingly desperate – a sure sign.

It is the same faults narrative they used against Adolf. Adolf was deporting the Zionist back to there own lands in the ME, but the Zionist owned the Banks and Newspapers and so forth and wanted to keep there strangle hold over the indigenous ethnic-Germanic tribal peoples. So they got their pawns the UK and US to bomb the indigenous people flat. Its the same thing they did to Gaddafi to, and now to Assad. The UK uses the same play book every time. Whoever is not allowing the Jews free run inside of there ancestral home lands, gets bombed by the UK and USSA. https://holodomorinfo.com/

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Real Anti-Racist Action Legally the UK will not be able to take part in any Military attack on Syria without either a UNSC Resolution or a vote in the UK Parliament.

RamboDave

Russia needs to start playing hardball, right now ! They should fly in a Russian Army division, directly to Damascus airport, complete with full air defense and ground attack aircraft. It doesn’t mean they have to deploy them throughout Syria. That decision can be made later.

Then Russia should wait about one week, to let this sink in, while Wall Street stock markets tank, and Congressional leaders demand a debate about “war powers”, and become very nervous about what Trump is doing in Syria.

Believe me, everyone is already very nervous about Trump.

After one week, Russia should announce that their Syrian forces now are in possession of tactical “nukes”. And, ……. at the same time also announce that there is no prohibition against “first use” of such nukes in self defense of it’s forces.

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RamboDave Have been suggesting stronger support by Russia in Syria and in return get accused of being CIA / Mossad troll, super Hasbara, etc.

Putin operates in slow motion, do nothing, wait and see what happens, etc.

So we have to wait and see what happens.

Ma_Laoshi

Poor Vlad, thinking he had Sun Tzu down cold, “to defeat the enemy without fighting him”. Maybe that was just… poetic license. Or a mistranslation. I’m sure Ho Chi Minh knew Sun Tzu well, but damn straight he kept “kill off the invaders” in his toolbox.

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Ma_Laoshi

This situation is developing like the US Blitzkrieg at the start of the unlawful Iraq war (No UNSC Resolution).

Putin will regret his slow motion war in Syria if the US does the unthinkable and launches 59 Tomahawks into the Presidential Palace in Damascus.

Syria is the Achilles Heel of the Russia.

If Syria falls, Russia will fall starting with Arab Pipelines pumping oil and gas into Turkey (Russia’s No 2 largest customer) and then to the EU (Russia’s No 1 customer).

888mladen .

“Syria is the Achilles Heel of the Russia.” I doubt Putin relay understands that in its entirety hence those slow motion movies played by Kremlin.

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888mladen

All that you write is true.

Putin has been sitting back and collecting US$Trillions since 9/11 getting rich via the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sanctions on Iran, all of which have raised the oil price.

Syria has also been a good US$ earner for Putin as Iran has to pay hard US$s for every piece of equipment supplied to Syria.

If Putin fails to save Syria, he will also destroy the Russian Federation.

Ma_Laoshi

In 2003 Russia was still shuttered for repairs, and even Uncle Saddam assumed that there were lines the Empire just wouldn’t cross–until it was too late of course. Now all actors have experience from Libya etc as well (but never mention South Sudan, everybody is supposed to have forgotten about South Sudan). Do we learn from experience or not.

You make another relevant point in passing: not everyone agrees on the importance of the pipeline, but kiboshing it was a Russian interest only. For Assad, letting the pipeline go up was just rational business. So Damascus prioritizes their Moscow ties, and Putin treats the fallout in large part as a way to sell weapons to Iran. How attractive is such an ally to others?

zman

Ah, yes…so many armchair generals safe at home in their recliners…that would have taken the US bait everytime. If you guys had been in charge, there would be all out war already in Syria…just exactly what the Ziocon cabal is wanting because it is their only way forward. Yes, Russia should be listening to you guys, since they have had no success in Syria so far…losing all their battles with ISIS, continually losing more land. Yes, Syria is in far worse shape than they were 2 years ago…the Russians should have been listening to you all along. Putin will regret not following the same militarist path as the US.

Ma_Laoshi

Of course there is an argument on the other side and you are welcome to make it. Yes RF is winning battles with ISIS and doing some good for the Syrian people. Meanwhile, the idea that Russia was going to restore state order has become a distant mirage, with Turks and Kurds squabbling over who gets to gobble up more of what used to be Syria. Moscow is so sure it’s doing the right thing but after a hard look, Sweden, Finland, etc are moving towards NATO. Qatar also sure as hell won’t want to end up a Russian ally in Syria’s vein.

US is not necessarily baiting but probing–it’s what their officers are *trained* to do. You snatch up this and if there’s no price to pay, you can probably snatch up that other shiny thing as well. Or at least destroy it–snatch *away* from your rivals. There would be no “every time” if there’s dead orcs on TV at home first time they go too far.

AMHants

It is the same crew that set up Iraq and how did that end? In fact Blair, what did you tell us and who did you get to spin the message?

Tim Bell – Bell Pottinger – spun the story, to get us into Iraq, Tony Blair, supported by his Private Secretary Matthew Rycroft and ‘yes men’. Now what did the ‘Chilcot Report’ have to say about Iraq and Saddam’s non existent WMD?

Matthew Rycroft – who is now the UK Ambassador in the UN and begging to get his hands on the Syrian natural resources. In fact, isn’t he even using the same words from the same script, that was used during the courtship of the UK citizens and Blair’s thirst and lust for the Iraq War?

Bell Pottinger and aren’t they linked with the White Helmets? Now what is the role of the White Helmets out in Syria? Then Tim Bell, who set up Doctors Without Borders/Sans Frontieres and look how supportive they are with the White Helmets.

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AMHants “…Now what is the role of the White Helmets out in Syria?…”

You asked too many question so picked one at random.

Currently the White Helmets have quietly melted into the background maybe disappeared after the revelation of fake rescuing of helpless children during the Aleppo liberation.

Loudmouth Boris Johnson authorized UK funding for the Play for Pay, White Helmets crime organization and even he has gone quiet about them.

AMHants

They rested White Helmets, owing to bad publicity, but, also assume we are too stupid to remember. Hence, no doubt, they will surface again. Together with the supply of videos, to support the next CW false flag.

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AMHants Have to agree. The NeoLiberals have been conditioned to allow Recycling of PVC to save the World.

AMHants

I also agreed with your comment. Goodness, what is happening haha.

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AMHants In a time of crisis, people have to pull together.

Ma_Laoshi

“how did that end”? *Iraq was destroyed. *The architects stayed out of jail. *Oh and they got rich. *Europeans voted out their last two responsible governments (Chirac/Schroeder), replacing them with Zionists as well.

What’s not to like?

GEORGE RICHARD JAMES

Fallon’s statement comes as no surprise as the United Kingdom is the lapdog of the United States as evidenced by its participation in the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and, now, Syria.

goingbrokes

So why does Saudi Arabia not “pay a heavy price” for mass slaughtering innocent children in Yemen? Or US of A in Mosul and Raqqah for that matter? The verbal contortions they have to go through to not appear completely insane!

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goingbrokes Money Talks, Justice Walks. Saudi accepts US$s for its oil and deposits it back into US$ Bonds.

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Fallon is just doing his lip service on behalf of his Neoconservative masters.

Legally the UK will not be able to take part in any Military attack on Syria without either a UNSC Resolution or a vote in the UK Parliament.

Fred

Translation: “There is no evidence they did anything wrong but Rothschild wants it.”

Ma_Laoshi

Can’t the poodle system be used against the Empire? All these Brits, Danes, Norwegians, Poles are potential weak links if you kill them *when they deserve it*. It’s not like Uncle Sam would get really upset. Hell, the idea of turning Seoul into ashes seems to have its charm to them as a way of neutralizing an export competitor.

Keith Smith

another tory dimwit who thinks he is the brightest bulb in the room

zman

Nah, just another Neocon/Zionist poodle, chomping at the bit to bite an ankle at their masters request. He’s a dimwit all right, but he surely doesn’t have any illusions about being ‘bright’…after all, the bulb isn’t even lit.

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