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Ukraine Claims To Have “Resolution Plan For Eastern Ukraine” – Could It Be … War?

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Ukraine Claims To Have "Resolution Plan For Eastern Ukraine" - Could It Be ... War?

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Ukraine planned alongside Germany and France to solve the war in Eastern Ukraine and awaits Russia’s reaction, Andrey Yermak, head of President Volodymyr Zelensky’s office said on March 10th.

Yermak said that they have a specific peace plan -proposed by Germany and France- which, as they believe, complies with the Minsk Protocol, under the norms of international law.

It is a ‘peaceful’ proposal and ‘we expect the same stance from the Russian Federation,’ Yermak said in a videoconference on the Eastern Ukraine conflict.

He also added that, in the Ukraine´s opinion, whether this plan approved it could become the roadmap aimed at establishing peace in Eastern Ukraine, reintegrating territories not controlled by Kiev and holding local elections.

Yermak expressed he hopes the plan would become a debate topic during forthcoming meeting in the Normandy format.

In response, on March 10th, the Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said that he has no information about some new plan for a peace settlement the Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky has announced.

Speaking about potential contacts between Russian and Ukrainian leaders, Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelensky, the Kremlin spokesman noted that Moscow had received no offers yet to arrange such meetings.

“Similarly, there is no discrete new plan ‘on the table’,” he stressed. “At this point, we did not quite understand, because we do not have anything on the table, we have not seen any plan.”

Moscow has not received any offers through diplomatic channels to organize bilateral contacts between Russian and Ukrainian leaders, Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelensky, Dmitry Peskov informed.

When asked whether Ukraine had offered to organize any contacts between Putin and Zelensky, Peskov stated:

“We have all heard numerous statements by the [Ukrainian] president on his desire to organize a Normandy Four meeting as soon as possible, and we are always discussing it during meetings between ministers and presidential aides.”

“When it comes to a specific visit or any bilateral contacts, we have not received any concrete initiatives through diplomatic channels,” he said.

When asked whether there are any plans to hold a phone call between the Russian and Ukrainian leaders, Peskov said:

“So far no. If necessary, they can be approved quite quickly, however, no such contacts are planned,” he stressed.

Additionally, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that Russia knew nothing of any such plan, Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Rudenko said.

“What kind of a peace plan is this? We know nothing about a peace plan France and Germany are said to have proposed. This is the first time I hear about it,” Rudenko said.

It is an alleged plan drawn up by Germany and France, but adjusted by Ukraine. Russia is already being accused of impeding it and seeking an escalation.

The Jamestown Foundation alleged that Russia was escalating the war in Eastern Ukraine, and that Kiev was simply a victim in the entire situation.

Ukraine Claims To Have "Resolution Plan For Eastern Ukraine" - Could It Be ... War?

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  • On March 14, the DPR/LPR forces targeted positions of the UAF forces with an anti-tank missile near Katerynivka
  • On March 14, the DPR/LPR forces targeted positions of the UAF forces with a grenade launcher near Vodyane
  • On March 13, artillery of the DPR/LPR forces targeted UAF positions near Pisky
  • Head of the Presidential Administration, Andrey Yermak said that Ukraine has a plan alongside Germany and France to solve the war conflict in Eastern Ukraine and awaits Russia’s reaction.

The Kiev government was simply forced to censor opposition TV channels and media, as well as sanction its own MPs, especially from the “Opposition Platform – For Life!”. After all, they were dubbed Putin allies and there’s no way they could be allowed to perpetuate “Russian aggression”.

The incredibly biased “analysis” by the Jamestown Foundation concludes with the following”:

“Ukrainian officials are attempting to counter the onslaught of belligerency in the Moscow media by announcing Ukraine is ready to meet an enemy attack even if it takes the form of a massive invasion. According to interior ministry advisor Valery Potseluyko, “We [the Ukrainian government] understood there would be a serious response from Moscow to our moves against pro-Russian TV channels and Medvedchuk; but the time to begin a military offensive is wrong—the fields must first dry up”. Indeed, the snow is just begging to melt on the East European (Sarmatic) Plain. It is currently Rasputitsa or mud season, which is incredibly problematic for offensive maneuver warfare. Maybe six to eight weeks remain before belligerent rhetoric and sporadic bombardments in Donbas might truly transform into something much more ominous.”

In response, and with the support with quite a bit of evidence, Russia called on Ukrainian authorities to cease and desist any attempts to increase the escalation and implement a scenario of force in Eastern Ukraine, Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.

“We would like to warn the Kiev regime, the hotheads who serve or manipulate it, about further escalation and attempts at implementing a force scenario in Donbass,” she said, according to TASS news agency.

The diplomat responded in those terms to a statements by Leonid Kravchuk, head of the Ukrainian delegation in the Contact Group for the search of a solution to the conflict.

She warned about certain “radical steps” on the part of Kiev should the Russian Federation not be recognized as part of the conflict in eastern Ukraine.

According to Zakharova, the rhetoric of the Ukrainian representatives “makes us think about the true intentions of Kiev in this historic period.”

“Once again, we urge Ukrainian authorities to stop inventing new agreements, new documents and finally fulfill consciously their obligations under the Minsk Agreements,” she stressed.

Zakharova affirmed that Kiev is trying to cover up its inaction and frank sabotage of the agreements reached to resolve the situation in eastern Ukraine by accusing Russia.

“At the same time, Kiev is trying to convince everyone that Moscow is supposedly part of the conflict and therefore has some obligations under the Minsk package of measures,” she added.

It is unlikely that Ukraine will change course at this point, it has the support of both the EU and the US, and a presumed “peace plan” that will likely fall through and pave the way for hostilities.

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cechas vodobenikov

Jens-town foundation and hologram yurt-mak recycling fantasies received from senile hair sniffer US prez

Assad must stay

LOL!!!!

Jens Holm

I just have eplained how stupid people in Texas are even blaming windpower only being 20% for it.

They have no 100% fuel back up for all broken systems inclusing wind. They themselves has denied to be conntected to the rest of USA for getting at least some electricity from them.

The water lack is same thing. We at least fast would get enough drinking water and even distribute it. They have saved money by not doing like that. They then pay the price.

Its the same all over the world. You can do a lot to make safety and at least take parts of it away. It can be expensive, but insurrence is a permanet one. No one also dont know which 23 of 10 gets canser and which 3 are hit by a car. But we know it will happen.

So YES I INTRODUCE SAFE WINDPOWER. But its the same for most other things. You can choose high saving money but by that also often can fall deep deep.

cechas vodobenikov

jens gypsy fortune teller knows jens farts powerful—predicts jens needs more perfume

Jens Holm

Actually the Texans elected ones need less parfume, so all living there can smell they need a lot of soap and many of them should be replaced.

But it unfortunatly ais same thing for many people living there. They simply dont know, whats wrong and why. THey only know “cheap” and forget cheap is optimizing thinsg very well, but too cheap makes such risky sideeffects.

Thats true for many things. We fx has a much less armed police and certainly not their kind of regime, but that dont cover everything, so we instead has replaced parts of the USA police jobs with more socialworkers. Even expensive too, we do prefare unarmed social workers in the streets and in the homes – bacause the problems are there even we also deescalate from being “police matters”.

All the Texans has to understand. There is no wrong in using a little parfume as well as a little sugar, when the medicine goes down, Too many places are like Texas. When people has a lot of money and the tools for it, I feel less for them, when they pay for the risk.

My worries are for those, which cant get electricity, water or food everyday. Those also can be helped to improvement, if they wish to and are allowed to know there are better solutions just outside their door step.

That fx cover ost parts of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt and many others. Im fopr helping the ones, which will change to the better. I care much less for the ones, which wont even they are very poor or could do the change as fx Texas.

HiaNd

Same ol’ same ol’ ! They plan to attack Donbass in may and put the blame on Donbass and Russia for “aggression”. Ukrainians want (with the help of the Western media) to take posture of the victim while attacking the Donbass and putting all the blame on Russia in the same time (the way their US-NaTO masters ask them to do) Presenting Russia as the only aggressor. To obtain support of the Western (sheeple) population for NATO “intervention”. Itching for WW3 !

Supreme Blyat

Brrrr.. Ukraine doesn’t have a single nuke

Just Me

Luckily, even the drunk Yeltsin was smart enough to dismantle all the nukes.

Supreme Blyat

The west was the most scared by the Ukrainian nukes, IMF paid them billions to give them back to Russia.

HiaNd

It vas US through IMF that has paid them billions to give those nukes to Russia for DISMANTLEMENT. Taking down nuke warheads off the missiles and putting them in storage (before recycling them)

HiaNd

There is always perfidy in your comments…(while you pretend to have good intentions) You talk as if Russia would nuke Ukraine. Russia doesn’t need to use any kind of nukes to crush Ukrainian army in 2 days. I just can’t see any possible situation where Russia would use tactical nukes. Except ONE ! Direct invasion of Ukraine by NATO troops. In that case NATO troops would be nuked (destroyed) in Western Ukraine immediately

Supreme Blyat

Or TWO! A mistake, like in Terminator.

HiaNd

What “mistake”?!? Russia will use tactical nukes only if attacked by NATO. So, only in defense, against major overwhelming invading force!

Supreme Blyat

I think Russia will nuke Ukraine. Probably with small warheads. The country is too big to be invaded.

HiaNd

They do not want to invade Ukraine. Even if Ukraine attacks Russia, Russia will NOT nuke Ukraine. ….what might happen though is that Novo-Russia is invaded… https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/38e9220f-2b73-46d8-aaa2-945bc0836ac3/db9i0du-45c01d36-8a3a-4347-9a34-b5bef2e99fec.png/v1/fill/w_1206,h_663,q_75,strp/novorussian_federation_by_zmijugaloma-db9i0du.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi8zOGU5MjIwZi0yYjczLTQ2ZDgtYWFhMi05NDViYzA4MzZhYzMvZGI5aTBkdS00NWMwMWQzNi04YTNhLTQzNDctOWEzNC1iNWJlZjJlOTlmZWMucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEyMDYiLCJoZWlnaHQiOiI8PTY2MyJ9XV19.w2H5IboP22isW9Rvb6U-VNKSVIazP4bJlg-F8HWi1HU

Jens Holm

Too many bad gun slingers there.

Jens Holm

Much as You are nuked Yorself.

Read western medias about it. They dont say so. We are not like that at all. We do support no more Neocolonialisme by some collapse. Those Ukrainians has to find themself and it seemes to be very difficult and takes times. The Russian rhetorics for home use only improve contrasts and makes zelinsky whatever more defended og the nazi¨look a likes.

I will remind You the Bolsjevics after heavy figtings took Ukraine afterr WW1 and the Germans took it by Barbarossa “xtra”.

Supreme Blyat

It was a joke. Gotcha! Ukraine is a big country and the biger, the harder corruption to break. Besides the huge influence of mother of all corruption. Small states like Slovenia, closer to germanic influence, ofcourse can be easier to integrate…

Jens Holm

Thats how it is. So many are blamed for things which cant be handled day to day. Some changes takes generations to find a new kind of balance.

I would say for Slovenia it for many generations was affiliated with Austrai and partly Italy. By that they do have some traditions and are not far away.

So we have to continue. Im for it, but its too much to expect, that EU having its own problems cant do miracles there. People has to learn thing by dooings and more should be educated here in west.

An thing of importance is a sober well covering tax system. If the State dont get in money, they cant finance intensions.

Supreme Blyat

Ukraine has many generations of corruption and war, and what Russia does in their sphere of influence is what they did in communism, finding and promoting the most corrupt and incapable ppl in those societies so West vs Est is a war of mentalities, kinda good vs evil.

francesco

ukraina is 3rd world. It will never be a western country. Ukreine is a useful colony in order to combat Russia for us, and to pay with its blood for that; and since ukreine got $ by our western banks, the ukrainian colony will pay for ever interest rates and submission to us

Supreme Blyat

Ok Franceskov.

francesco

Hahahaha all the world knows about your paranoia about Russians 😂😂😂😂 actually I am Italian and even living in Norway. If you go on my facebook account Francesco Buccino you find 15 years of post from me and my friends from Italy and Norway, 2 nations of the NATO criminal gang, we know and say that openly that our lands live on robberies like in iraq or syria and Libya.. When I say you ukrenian are a stupid colony in the and of a master I know what I mean. You are third world, you know nothing about the west , which will use you, exploit you and throw away at the suitable moment. Now go to the donbass to combat and die for us :)))

Supreme Blyat

I don’t need your FB pics, I have your mom OnlyFans profile. She inserts empty bottle of vodka for few rubles.

francesco

You don’t need?? Hahahahaa you are an ukrienian!! A beggar from a third world country :))) you need EVERYTHING!! You live on “humanitarian help” and loans from the West :)))) you have to lick our ass consequently , but you dont mind :)) bye bye 😘😘😘

Supreme Blyat

Send those emojis to your moscal mom

Cromwell

Russia should stop worrying about what the West thinks and just do what they have to,maybe they already have.

Harry Smith

Please do not overestimate Russian altruism. The only thing Russia worries about it’s Russian state interests. We had a survey about what Russia has to do with Ukraine. And most of respondents said do not intervene. Because most of Russians hate Ukrainians and we clearly see that Ukraine is too close to it’s doom. It is stupid to make any moves now. Nobody wants to help Ukrainians to rebuild their country. On other hand, a strong monoethnic Russian state like Novorossia is a nightmare for Putin and his companions.

FlorianGeyer

President Putin did grant Russian citizenship to qualifying Donbass residents though. The Russian government and the Russian military will prevent any defeat of the Donbass by the Ukies, I would think. The population of Eastern Ukraine is largely pro-Russian, I think?

The rebuilding of Ukraine will cost a fortune. That financial burden belongs to the nations that were behind the illegal CIA coup.

However, having a hostile NATO camping on Russia’s Near Abroad is surely unacceptable for the security of Russia. Russia’s borders with Europe have always been the most serious threat.

Harry Smith

According to the most recent surveys, majority of Russians are against Russia implication in resolving of Ukraine’s crisis.

FlorianGeyer

Yes, it was the same in 2014. I am confident that the Russian political and military strategists have various plans for all aggressive scenarios against the Russian Federation. The most serious being NATO tempting Russian forces to liberate Ukraine from the quasi terrorist state that the Kiev regime has become, as planned by NATO.

HiaNd

I think they finally got it ! Double faced Merkel and Germany did last straw…. Russia finally realized that Germans only want Russian gas! But they do NOT want Russia in EU-rope ! It took them eternity to understand that EU-rope rejects them in most of the cases !

FlorianGeyer

The EU would love to occupy Russia though, for the natural resources and also to put a break on China.

Ronald

Right, but according to Russell ‘Texas’ Bently, they expect an attack tomorrow, March 15th.

HiaNd

Despite mud everywhere, as element of “surprise”? Everything is possible. Might be spy psychological war, where SBU Ukraine spread false information. Might be true also. I can’t possibly know when they ‘re going to attack. Hard to know. Specially because Ukrainians don’t decide many things themselves and do the bidding of US. Either way they do I doubt that it will be any “surprise” in that attack.

Jens Holm

I agree. There will be no results by such an attack apart from more dead and building destructions in a region with almost only poor unimployed people.

Jens Holm

If my father wasnt dead she might same thing. Look for which sources You use as facts. You can find many oppinions and also too positive and too negative propaganda.

You should check up who is Your bently and if any of importnace say same thing and if it can be true or not.

I can only think the Ukrainians miight give some hard bombardment and then go home. If needed the Russians will support those forced to Ukraine russians.

SouthAfricaEmpire

Why is Russia letting that valuable farm land fall into the hands of Globalhomo/zog?

HiaNd

Sibiria leased farm land to Chinese? It is not for free. It is limited, controlled process and it is paid for. I suppose not enough Russians interested to buy that land. Russia was even giving it away for free, for those Russians who were to build farms and cultivate land in less populated areas…

Jens Holm

People has to understand its a world thing. The Chinese need that extra food and has no more good land for simple food. So they sell stuff and by that can import food.

They ask anywhere to rent or buy.

Jens Holm

Its because of the system made by themself collapsing themself. The Bolsjevics never has treated productive people well and not even clever farmers in Ukraine.

Dawn

Every time western countries – or their pets like Ukraine – claim something in the media, you can be sure the truth is exactly opposite.. Ukraine until today have not fulfill even one point of the Minsk agreements! Nazis in Kiev come up with the bullshit “new plan” every 6 months. All they want with this newest bullshit is to blame Russia for their coming attack on Donbass..

Ronald

Exactly the case. The Jamestown Foundation, a Washington think tank, claims ‘our peace moves’, while bringing in over 100,000 troops, tanks etc to the border.

See Russel ‘Texas’ Bentley Expected Attack on The Donbass, Russia’s Readiness, Bad Day for Empire – YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iixZn9r8z8

Hasbara Hunter

I have a very simple Resolution Plan for EASTERN UKRAINE:

GIVE IT BACK TO RUSSIA!

Lone Ranger

Amen.

Just Me

Ukraine has never been a country, it is the birthplace of modern Russia and the Orthodox religion-Kievan Rus.

Hasbara Hunter

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/808c3b3ce5cf83597842877fdef91b79f2b4fd972154b715247d223dfd2214ff.jpg

Just Me

That is why it is considered second Israel. The Zionists have openly said that Ukraine belongs to them.

Nearly half a million citizens of Israel are émigrés from Ukraine and consider Ukraine as a the original Jew homeland and are striving to form a confederation.

Hasbara Hunter

They strive for TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION… because they are Devilworshipping Psychopathic Childraping Maniacs….who consider GOYIM their cattle….and want to use’m & abuse’m at Will….

Just Me

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/90fc5f845837c7a3e1c5424dada3c9af90261ddab23a1e7e1502761215417afe.jpg

Jens Holm

Haha. They have chances if everybody else is like You. I wont blame them.

Jens Holm

Thats highly incorrect too. The Tzars deported most of them to there.

So You are only right, if You include parts of Russia today as well.

Jens Holm

None has any proof for all there conveted to that religion at all TOO. You are so permanent stupid in so many things.

Harry Smith

Eff! The birthplace of Russia is Novgorod the Great. The birthplace of modern Russia is Moscow. The birthplace of Russian Orthodoxy is Crimea. Kiev was nothing but a place of so named Great Duke. But it was the place just couple of centuries. After Kiev there was Suzdal and Vladimir towns of Greate Duke of Russian kingdoms. After mongols destroyed Kiev, all Russians moved north to Suzdal. Nowadays Ukraine population has nothing common with Russians from that days. A lot of time the land of Ukraine was very hard to control by any neighboring country so for several centuries it became the land of hiding criminals. Not only from Russia but Turkey and Poland as well. But predominantly the population was of Russian origin.

FlorianGeyer

Yes, and The Pale of Settlement was so named, as you know, because a pale, (post,stake) was placed on the road and prominent boundaries of the Pale of Settlement that was intended to restrict the Khazar bandits from infesting surrounding nations.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Irena_Grosfeld/publication/325441983/figure/fig1/AS:846839821631499@1578913755914/The-map-for-the-Pale-of-Settlement.ppm

The word, ‘pale’ is not commonly used today in the UK , but some fencing products still use the word.

” Palisade pales, the main components of palisade fencing, can be sold separately for repairing a damaged fence and cladding a palisade gates. Taking full advantages of forbidding appearance, the pales deter would be intruders and protect your house, office or factory, etc.

Pale Sections Typically palisade pales are supplied with three types of vertical pale profile: angle iron, D section and W section style, which are engineered with inherent strength and high resistance to attempts of pry, impact, bending, dismantle installation and dislocation.”

Jens Holm

At least You are able to put as calender into even even You bias too much.

You seemes to have forgotten the Mongols first took Moscow:(

Harry Smith

ROFL! You are funny! Moscow was a non important town at that time. Kiev was a metropolis. If you will read with attention my post you will discover that Russians moved to Suzdal, not Moscow.

Jens Holm

I know, but its written as Russia of today was not hit. It certainly was. Highly biased version. So I bias back the lie.

Supreme Blyat

Why only Eastern Ukraine and not Eastern Europe?

Just Me

Especially the Baltic banana republics that have been integral to Russia. The CIA stool pigeons Gorbachev and Yeltsin did Russia immense damage.

Supreme Blyat

All ex-communist bloc was stolen by NATO when USSR colapsed. They need to get back in check. Russia is the only country that can protect them from LGBT Western resources plundering. Russia will have a naval base in Montenegro soon and the hypersonic missiles will be in Serbia and with a bit of luck in Catalunia.

Just Me

I agree, Russia can not afford to be on the back foot anymore. These NATO pansy LGBT cowards only understand force. Russia has many levers to change the global power dynamics. It must act to consolidate alliances with China and Iran and also increase military pressure in Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, Libya and even Afghanistan and turn the tables. NATO is a queers alliance.

Supreme Blyat

Currently Russia walks on tips of toes, having a fresh memory if what happened 30 years ago. And the 100 olygarchs with their billions in fiscal paradises don’t help at all to statal consolidation.

Jens Holm

If You look for food there, You will find no bananas.

Those Baltic republics today are reduced to very small units by Stalin, then Hitler and the Stalin again. Stalin also emmigrated many Russias there and by that develloped the Region only where they were develloping.

Your version for what realy went onis highly biased. USSR collapsed themself by not even implementi g Marx as well as Engels well.

If You include fx Garbatjov and Yeltzin the real mistake was, that those and people of their standards got no influence for any changes until it was too too late.

cechas vodobenikov

jinxy learned history in mink farm/LSD lab

Jens Holm

Many here only has learned bad fairytales. We in west do know.

SouthAfricaEmpire

Yeltsin enjoyed being drunk

Jens Holm

I will say the term “eastern” is a nw termbased of the dividing by USSR.

We used the non russian parts as “Middle Europe” until then.

Supreme Blyat

Is not like Churchill and Roosvelt contributed at all…

Jens Holm

Writing a lot about it – I actually has the Eisenhower memoeires myself – I wll say Churchill hardly decided anything apart from opening the Suez-Gibraltar by taking North Africa.

Here Stalin was a much harder and better negosiater then Stalin and ignored the Churchill worries.

But none had expected what happend next as a permanent solution by curtain all the way west of Berlin.

I would say dominance by the Russians was expected but not that.

And the main card by Stain was true. Even his stupidisme and fanatic control killed half of the Russians and many others there, it was a fact the Russians suffered much more then most others.

But some also do forget, that USA had almost 100% influence on the Pcific war and weapons for China included and the Pacifics – just as now – was and are more vital for them.

We saw the Korean war. We saw the change of Japan. We saw the support for Taiwan. We saw the wars in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia and also the disputes around the relations for the free Philipines and its relations to USA.

At WW1 as well as WW1 the russians and even Der Kaiser was none of their businees being an European old days dispute, where Russia(USSR) just was some islolated random backyard.

Looking back it was a big mistake by Hitler to attack american ships.

It also always has been downsiezed how much help USSR actually got by USA and UK as well as Stalin denied a Marshall plan for the rest of Europe (and Russia). Russia(USSR) never mention USA assisted by chinese and britts handled Japan with no help by Russia(USSR), which also was decided, because the Nazis was that much bigger enemy.

So Churchill was right, but he was wrong so many times in so many things, that his visions might be pure luck:)

He was right about one thing. It was Europe should not try to de escalate in the infected way by too many big very dirty players witt the French of those days as number one.

Der Kaiser made France make Hitler. It was revenge for the epanding Preussen and Paris in 1870( and Denmark, and Austria and severl more).

…And Der Kaiser didnt make Preussen. Bismarch did. By that Bismarch also started WW1 beacuse the Austran Hungarians had nowhere else to expand :)

It all started with some Adam a vomen and a worm or a snake,

Supreme Blyat

Mostly agree with you. After the WW I Western Europe was so tired of war, still it continued in Eastern part. The same ‘tiredness’ happened after WW II despite having like 10% loses comparing to the East, Stalin knew this weakness very well. Americans could easily pulverize USSR suply lines with the aviation, they could make no road and bridge left between Moscow and Berlin and it was a better Europe now.

Jens Holm

I agree. It might be possible. USA had many aircraft carriers in the pacifics and by that many airplanes too.

USSR was overstreched and had to home and at least make some food.

Hasbara Hunter

The Yangeese Cannonfodder & their ZioNazi-PuppetMasters want War simply because they need a War…Wag the Dog because a Murican Civil War II is looming on the Horizon….Europe ain’t gonna do shit…Civil Wars Looming on the Horizon in Europe too, thanks to the Greatest Upcoming Created Crisis in recorded History….Europe hasn’t even got an Army to fight Russia…F*CK the UkroNazis…Russia will take control over that Shithole in a matter of days…want War get WARRR….

Jens Holm

None in the whole west says so.

Hasbara Hunter

Says Jens the Village Jidiot…here in Holland it is silence before the storm kiddo…we are waiting for All Hell to break loose…Shake a bottle of Champagne long enough & sooner or later it will go POP! Best is when Murcia starts with Overthrowing The Traitors in Washington & New York Banksters this will be a Big Motivation for the Rest of the (Western) World to Hang the Traitors in their OWN ZIONAZI INFESTED GOVERNMENTS…

THE GREAT RESET & BIG CLEANUP!

Jens Holm

Do something in stead of waiting. Thats the point for the dutch system as well. You can change things to the better.

Fx You could start stop lying as You do now – and mainly only a selfcreated truth.

Hasbara Hunter

I have been doing a LOT in recent years Fuckface…informing & unifying the Dutch + Training for the potential AngloZioNazi-Elitist War, two pretty essential Key components of preparing for what lies ahead of us…

ELITES are THE ENEMY of HUMANITY…it is THEM or US

FlorianGeyer

Well said, HH.

The smell of great fear is everywhere that the Agenda 21 prostitutes exist.

Hasbara Hunter

In their Panic the ZioNazi-Parasites try to start Fires Globally for some Good Ol’ Distraction, but most of these Fires will be Neutralized by intelligent Chessplayers like Russia, Iran & China (until a certain Tipping-point ofcourse is my guesstimate)…Thus the AngloZioNazis are realizing their Babylonian Magick Tricks became Obsolete…….the Outcome of it all is still a Question Mark….but it is a lovely sight to see these Chickenshit Suicidal AngloZioNazi Cockroaches trying to run for cover, not many places to be found anymore where the Sun doesn’t Shine…

FlorianGeyer

The stated goal of the worlds parasites is to reduce human numbers globally. The Third World is easier to cull via wars ,famine, pestilence and vaccinations that steralise the ‘cattle’.

The so called 1st World is a harder nut to crack for the parasites to implode into anarchy, but Covid has plainly shown that there is a roughly 50/50 split of covid believers and those who are in shocked disbelief with the lockstep government emergency’s that are enslaving generations with more debt. The global parasites love free ‘printed’ money that they can then charge the goyim nations usurious rates of interest for.

To reduce the 1st world population will involve internecine conflicts, BLM , Gender and Religious being the main drivers of civil unrest.

The White people have always been the greatest threat to the ‘ global parasites’, hence the vilification of white men in particular, as they have a long history of expelling the parasites in Europe.

These are interesting times, HH. The enemy is not an army of parasites, but an army of the Woke cattle who host the parasites.

Jens Holm

Ha ha reducing the numbers of human beings might be a good idea. Why do we have to be so many?

Jomini

Retard, you are not a human being but go reduce yourself and stop wasting oxygen.

Jens Holm

I see none of that debate in “west” . Its propaganda made to keep You in line as sheep.

So why does cow has cowbells – its because the dont have horn as the bulls…

You dont look in debates in west and You dont communicate with Your TV. You are told.

Jens Holm

Its the oldest permanent job in the world and is there because its seemes very needed. So do respect and pay well.

Maybee You are the snake or worm:)

Jens Holm

DEmocrasy and parlamentarisme is an ongoing proces and a needed habit. You get mpre freedom but also has to be a more responsable person. If not its anarchy or people can decide anaything against You, and You have no chance and possibility for influence.

I see it as my habist for cleaning. It has to be done all my life. If I do nothing … then.

Im no saint by locally I try to be nice and help a little there. I mainly help single people, which has no one else. Until a year ago I helped a very old lady. She had no idea about any jobs in old days only done by men.

It was a very good realtion in 12 years. Her children were at lest 75 kilometers away but did a good help for her.

She also in her late years forgot to buy even simple food. I gave her food or bougt it for here.

Now she is fine being at least 96 years old in a home for seniles. I think she has dieper like You too:)

You have influence even You some are smaller then then the smallest daft pricks. I can pay off. Ha ha Notting Hill Marrige, where Huge Grant is admitting he has been smaller then nothing. I saw the Youtube the other day sniff.

Not all take the arm if You give them a helping hand, so help them and the ones, which Ypu dont know.

I know Holland is very split up in diffrent ways. Actually the low countries named Netherland as well are divided to Belgium by Shelde river and east. That border is a hard war borderline.

Amsterdam is grounded by refugees from Antwerpen too. You probatly know already.

By that its also a kind of strange in Belgium as well. The Duke of Brabrtant made Belgium after 20 years where that part was pliundered and under terrorregime.

We have implemented things from there as if the were from Holland but a closer look says many actually are from the Flams in Belgium of today.

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Jens Holm

Its a life thing just as cleaning. You can only do Your best. I take breaks too.

I had a big garden and sold it and the house. It was very good to have almost no garden. But I have now bought a smaller one and preparing the garden seemes more important then the house.

I needed that break(14 years) :)

In my new old house I have no neigbors, so I can play loud music too.

ruca

How’s that transition coming along? Do you look like a gargoyle yet?

Cromwell

I have visited Holland many times,have friends there,from what i have seen many Dutch people have fallen under the US spell like my Country,but don’t think its as bad,they always see the US as the good guys.

Hasbara Hunter

Sure a certain portion of’m will…but especially the Youngsters know exactly what is going on…Sheeple are Accomplishes in the AngloZioNazi-System & are Blind for the Truth, simply because they Themselves have Nothing to complain about…the COVID-19 Scam has opened a lot of Eyes here in Holland though…

Jens Holm

We follow Holland well and has it extra because of the elections. We also has seen the anticovids.

We see no storm but there are many worries to handle, We are predicted the only elction winner might be sopme socialist party, which in a strange wing will connect to the riight wings, because of emmigration.

I can only hope Ypu and others instead of predicting this and that look for needed and only needed adjustments.

We are worried too, but all is almost calm here according the delay of vaccine. We are not split up as the dutch and dont debate or kind of riot that hard.

Sometimes You have to eat, what You are served.

I dont recognize the rest for Holland and most of the west. We are doing very well compared to others and the reasons You give are highly incorrect.

GDP is like France and Sweden. You have no needs having the Euro and dollars as well.

Potato Man

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Ivan Freely

It’s too bad Bolivia abolished the death penalty. People like Anez deserves it.

Kenny Jones ™

R*ping time

Captain Freedom

So there is still justice somewhere in the world… time to bend over for the soap!!

Cromwell

That made my day yesterday when that Bitch was arrested,now the Government need to purge the military high command,replace those US puppets with real men who put their own Country first.

Jomini

Hahaha perfect

Lone Ranger

Ukropnazis will cry and rage :)

Assad must stay

Russia should have no problem taking ukraine and cutting off NATO reinforcements, in case they attack, I’m sure theyve wargamed it all out by now

Jens Holm

The usual stuff. Everything is about which one can or cannor put the biggest carrot into each others behind.

Maybee thats why women dont fight as much as men:) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/45e13ec9b6b26f615f13064fd906319307010a333c23f11a0d2b06aca22baac6.jpg

Kenny Jones ™

I hope Russia doesn’t forget to punish Turkey also for supplying drones to Ukraine, their interests in the Middle East should be targeted to send a strong message

Jens Holm

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The solution of everything

Dick Von Dast'Ard

We know your favorite pastime now Jens.

Jens Holm

Thats what I) see most people here know about. They probatly are raised like that as if their parants and grandparents has learned their v´¨braiuns are close to their behinds.

So I do prefare cholate and kindness as punishments:). I also prefare things like above is less or not needed at all by equal rights for all and talk about things.

Kenny Jones ™

Why so many downvotes, you’re right,

Jens Holm

Its about how limited and narrowminded this forum is. It dont include the world. I telll about it. People dont like it, because they are propagandized to something else and often is not right about a lot of things.

I dont represent the whole west, but I tell about it as sober as I can based on facts and oppinions here.

So minus also is a succes.

cechas vodobenikov

for JENS receiving lube/dildo from CIA a success—jens write any lie to earn attention from amerikan BDSM master

Jens Holm

We certainly are more cousins to them then to You. Its very visible. Hardly any has tail here:) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/375ec31c21f64c621385b89e89d255d5fbe4faa856e1a5b7108e6ce096ad3779.jpg

cechas vodobenikov

jens searching for BDSM perverts—confuses SF w dane pedophilia site

Jens Holm

Most peofiles are not violent at all.

In BDSM You relate to each other. Else You are psycopat and victim.

Just Me

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Kenny Jones ™

Say that to Kadyrov!

JIMI JAMES

ONE ISIS MONGREL DON’T MAKE FOR OVER 100,000 STRONG CHECHNYANS WHOM WOULD LOVE NOTHING BETTER THAT TO TAKE ON THE PINK SWASTIKAS (PERIOD)

Peter Jennings

The Ukraine and some of its people are being used as a proxy army for the US attack on Russia. They are the jihadists US/nato pets of the north. Convinced by bribery to attack their own countrymen, as was done in Libya and Syria. Ukrainians should take a look at both those countries because that is their future too.

Should arrogance and their greed for american dollars get the better of them, the Kiev junta will also be a target for the latest Russian tech. This would give the US/nato a great chance to gain lots of vital information on the use of these weapons as they are used to flatten the Ukrainian army. Their pilots will get some real action rather than just attacking passenger aircraft.

If Ukrainians want to commit suicide for america, the EU, and a shiny nato badge, maybe we should let them?

Cromwell

Well they could get an Iron cross out of their suicide.

Jens Holm

Sure. That would make You happy. Instead You should support the ones, which is not. Maybee You got a magnet, when You were a child:)

Peter Jennings

Maybe they never quite got over Stalin stealing their grain harvest? The US will do it now whilst the Kiev junta are busy looking at Russia.

Jens Holm

There is no war against Russia. You seemes to prefareto attack people, which are not allowed to defend themself by You.

Thats Pondus in minus.

Ukraine as well as the rest now are in normal conditions with the rest of Europe again. I will do anything to keep it like that. Thats no attackbut defence agains Neocolonialisme all the ways west of Berlin since 1945.

NO MORE.

Jens Holm

Its facts against realisme. Its a fact those parts of land was given to Ukraine, so You shpould not just take them back as robbers.

They are a part of a big deal. A minimum should be giving it to Russia for compensation.

Samuel Vanguard

biden likes wars,Big tech likes wars,MIC likes wars,Neo Cons like war washington establishment likes wars

Just Me

Biden will prove to be far worse than Trump, he is senile and personally totally corrupt, his son has made millions off the dumb Ukis. The US is now in total Zionist control and they will push for a major conflict against Russia to humiliate it.

Jens Holm

Biden is no senile at all. More then oxygen is needed for Yourself.

Jomini

He is as much senile and demented as you are retarded. And both of you are completely braindead. He can barely read, you can barely write…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prs4wAHZkIM&ab_channel=RedPatriot

ruca

Jews love wars, as long as someone else is dying for them.

Just Me

Jews want wars that benefit them, they don’t want to die but make money off other peoples misery. They want the dumbed down Goyin sheeple to die for them.

Jens Holm

That ight be right. They are not spendable among each other even they make very beautifull funerals as well:(

Jens Holm

I se none of that. Are You his sugardaddy or what?

Dick Von Dast'Ard

Another conflict resolution proposal could be for more of northern Ukraine to be part of CSTO-Belarus. Sort of, (but not quite) like what Turkey has done in Syria.

Jens Holm

I dont think any maps for old days as well as now says so. Poland, Belarus and Ukraine all are moved west and poles has been driven back to the smaller congrees/kingdom Poland.

But if You look at people actually living in that region, the 2 oblasts by Krustjov is an artificial addiction, whish should be voted back. I was meant to infect Ukraine, so USSR always has to come and declare help. It also was develloped well as a permanent industrial zone. Those and the oblasts never was not even Ukrainian-Russians”.

When I propose none react. But that makes sense and at least solve a corner.

I will remind You that those areas west and south of MInsk anytime was Poland for many many centuries. Belarus was different from the rest of the Russians by that and in many things. The same goes for Galizia – whatever. The majority or the biggets minority anytime was polish speaking ones with their own accent and not any kind of Russian kind of language. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f92cbca391589ee846c817757c3ce94dd0184c56e2b949f6936a23d5d2b9cd56.gif

This is a random map of many and well descriebed by many very sober history books. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5e86d6d2cc2f3bd9f77850f3d6df4b3532d07f690bfbbb6fe7ed69acc037c954.jpg

Dick Von Dast'Ard

Belarus–Ukraine border The status of the state border with Ukraine was given by the Supreme Soviet of Belarus of 11 June 1993, but there is an international agreement between Belarus and Ukraine, in which they mutually recognize the border BSSR and USSR recognized in 1990.

To date, the border is governed by the Agreement between Belarus and Ukraine on friendship, good neighborliness and cooperation of 17 June 1995, the Treaty on the State Border between Belarus and Ukraine on 12 May 1997 in the same year was ratified by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, and in 2010 the National Assembly of Belarus, but the parties still have not exchanged instruments of ratification.

According to Chairman of the State Border Committee of Belarus, Igor Raczkowski, work on border demarcation may continue for up to 10 years and require 51 billion rubles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus%E2%80%93Ukraine_border

Raptar Driver

When Zionist Nazis say peace they mean war, they mean peace on their terms.

SnowCatzor

Once again the Euro back ‘peace plan’ is essentially just ‘give Ukraine complete control in exchange for some half-assed promises’.

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