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NOVEMBER 2024

Ukraine To Produce Warships And UAVs Under Turkish Supervision

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Ukraine To Produce Warships And UAVs Under Turkish Supervision

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On December 15th, Ukrainian Defense Minister Andrii Taran signed agreements with Turkish companies on technology transfer and production of corvettes for the Ukrainian Navy and combat UAVs for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The signing took place during the visit of the Turkish delegation headed by the President of the Defense Industries of the Republic of Turkey Ismail Demir.

According to the Minister of Defense of Ukraine, these are primarily projects designed to radically strengthen the combat capabilities of the Ukrainian Navy to enhance security in the Black and Azov Sea regions.

The parties discussed the implementation of the agreements within the framework of the intergovernmental agreement and noted that the cooperation between Ukraine and Turkey in the field of defense is of a strategic nature.

According to Taran, these agreements are the first foreign economic agreements on military goods concluded by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.

In October the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andrii Taran and the President of the Turkish Defense Industries Ismail Demir signed a Memorandum outlining their intentions to launch and implement joint projects to build warships, unmanned aerial vehicles and all types of turbines.

Earlier, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky and Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan concluded a framework military agreement. The document was signed by Turkey’s National Defense Minister Hulusi Akar and the Ukrainian Defense Minister Andriy Taran. The contract will expand bilateral cooperation between the two countries in the military sector.

Around then, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky boasted that many countries were assisting Ukraine in its preparations for war by boosting its military capabilities.

“The US Congress has approved $250m in military aid to Ukraine. We have signed a 1 billion 250 million Pound agreement with the United Kingdom to strengthen the Ukrainian Navy. We’re going to get the Island-class patrol ships. Together with Turkey, we will develop air defence systems by producing corvette, engines and military drones,” Zelenskiy said.

This statement was made after Zelensky visited Ankara.

“We are buying drones from Turkey. Ukraine, on the other hand, produces engines for drones. Therefore, it will not be very difficult for us to start a joint venture,” Ukrainian President Zelenskiy said.

Vadim Nozdriya, General Manager of Ukrspetseskport, one of the country’s state-state-state firms, said they are interested in the joint production of Bayraktar TB2 UAVs in Ukraine and plan to buy 48 co-production platforms.

In September, Antonov CEO Oleksandr Los stated that the company is committed to cooperating with the Turkish aerospace industry for the production of AN-178 aircraft. Zelenskiy said, “As for the Antonov plane… We are absolutely satisfied with the attention shown to this initiative.”

Turkey is running out of options for partners for its drone fleet, as well as other aircraft and helicopters, it appears to be struggling in the production of turbines and aircraft engines, and Ukraine has some success in the field.

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viktor ziv

UA producing? It’s oxymoron, buahahaha!!!!

Lone Ranger

I cant wait for the new Roshen class chocko corvettes…

occupybacon

The pot calls the kettle black. 90% of Russian exports are natural resources and 5% arms. Russian exports: 425 Billion. Ukraine: 50 Billion. So basically Ukraine is Russia without natural resources. With a population 3 times smaller. Good luck with your jokes next time!

Rhodium 10

jajaaja please tell another joke!..

occupybacon

Want a joke?? The Russian people benefit the most from the natural resources exports, and not the billionaires.

Vox Populi

OECD estimates that less than 5% of Russian population has directly of indirectly benefited from Russian resource base. The only winners are Putin and his Oligarch overlords. Over 70% of Russian money ends up in Israel, Cyprus and UK. It is little wonder that Russia is facing a famine.

occupybacon

That’s mostly what happens with the natural resources in every country, only Russians want to believe thir country is ‘different’. To benefit the majority of the population they would need to export finite goods made by them, but Putin didn’t care to build a competitive industry, as long his olygarchs get fat contracts, that’s all that matters.

Rhodium 10

You have to write ” Banks, Casino and Capitalism always win over current people in all countries”….

occupybacon

Well yeah, basically the Moscow oligarchs are winning billions from those natural resources while Putin is “worried” about the price of food for poor Russians.

Rhodium 10

Meanwhile USA spend Billions in the non state military-industrial complex while US citizens dont have access to Hospitals and medical cares unless they pay insurers!…another large group of US citizens live in the streets ( Tents,cars..etc..) of the most rich country like if they were in Calcutta ( Kolkata) …

occupybacon

That’s why Russian average life expectancy is 5 years lower than Americans, cause free healthcare always work better than paid healthcare.

Rhodium 10

Thats why we have seen mass grave in New York as consecuence of Covid and the paid healthcare…

occupybacon

US mortality from covid is way below EU’s who has free healthcare.

Rhodium 10

thats because in EU you die in Hospital..but in US paid healthcare you die in your house if you dont have health insurance…and by “natural and no violent causes”…nobody will do them a test of Covid…therefore they dont add figures…

occupybacon

LOL!!

occupybacon

I can use your logic to build a theory, since Russian life expectancy is 5 years lower than US, they die because the hospitals are crowded, since are free, and the real sick people die at home!

Rhodium 10

It doesnt matter if Hospital are crowded…all public Hospitals in EU are also crowded by they have the mandate to provide healthcares to all people…otherwise Doctors and staff will face lawsuits!…meanwhile in USA you can die at the door of the hospital and nobody will take care of you!

occupybacon

LOL. In Russia you can die even with paid healthcare if you don’t bribe the doctor. Don’t even get me started with the free healthcare which is only on paper, like communism.

Rhodium 10

thats an stupid statement…anyway I will ask people who have been patients in Russian hospitals if they have had to bribe doctors..I´ll keep you informed!…

occupybacon

I hope they are still alife.

Vox Populi

In-fact Ukraine is more homogeneous and was the bread basket of the USSR. Russia is underestimating the rapid NATO militarization of Ukraine and Poland, that will serve as the launch pads to Russian Balkanization.

Concrete Mike

Hahaha dream on fascist turko pig!

viktor ziv

In 2019; Nuclear reactors and devices cca 60 Billions Electronic devices cca 36 Billions More You can find in following site; https://statimex.ru/statistic/all/oborot/201901-201912/world/RU/

I accept Your opinion but using percentages and comparing seems like margine of trolling.

occupybacon

Using percentages and comparisons is trolling if it’s not favorable to Russia. Comparing Ukraine with Africa is the highest form of Russian patriotism.

viktor ziv

cca 670 Billions in total, 96 Billions in nuclear tech and electronis is like 14% share, no millitary related stuff included, around 30% is raw material export You presented as 90%. Only soccer players give 110% at the match. So percentages You presented are very ignorant percentages that have no correlation with reality. You mentioned UA, well UA exports men and female labor force that send money to the families back home. You can call it import from UA point of view.

occupybacon

Yeah, all Eastern Europe export labour, that’s how we officially call it. And not tendentious ‘males and females’ how you want to distort the reality. The funny thing is if you can find all Eastern Europeans working in various fields in the West, Russian workers are a rarity, but in any brothel, legal or illegal, the Russian hookers are proportional in number with the rest of Eastern countries. So you export ‘only females’, to use your rethoric.

viktor ziv

To add count to Your observations, West is also exporting labor even to second grade countries. I don’t use brothels so I can’t talk about that sphere. Most likely I was misleading You in that direction, sorry, but brothels and UA “export” was not my aim. My point was that UA can’t produce anything since brain went to Russia and some West countries, maybe even to North Korean to help them with ICBM tech. What is left are people that know how to grow crops, but even that is taken from them since UA is selling it for quick short sighted money. There are some bright examples in UA, where West company is outsourcing one step in the production to local, but unfortunately that can also come to an end if profitable opportunity arises.

occupybacon

‘UA can’t produce anything’ do you have any data regarding this?

Jesus

Ukrainian corvettes and drones are meaningless against the Black Sea fleet and Donbas. An exercise in futility by Turkey and Ukraine.

SnowCatzor

Indeed. But it’s still a good way for defense companies to make money at their state’s expense.

Lone Ranger

UK gives ukropnazis $billions while pensioners are literally freezing to death in the UK. Slow clap…

occupybacon

* are literally laughing to death

Lone Ranger

I doubt. Freezing to detatj ainit that funnY.

occupybacon

It’s difficult for freezing Ruskey thinking of others laughing and having joy. Understandable.

Lone Ranger

Im still Hungarian. Sound more like Americant and ukrop attitude. Russians arent jelly by nature.

occupybacon

That’s why they have the highest suicide rate, because they don’t have negative thoughts at all.

Lone Ranger

U.S. and Ukraine has a lot higher suicide rates than does Russia. Just sayin…

occupybacon

Any link? :))

Lone Ranger

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

occupybacon

Ahh interesting, how come when the wikipedia page is favorablw to Russia you post it as evidence and when it’s defavorable you call it a CIA site?

Lone Ranger

Because wikipedia is wast, it cant be fully controlled, CIA, MI6 Mossad and SBU tries to spread false info and data but they arent that successful. Like this page, it has a pro CIA data and a pro Truth data. Its easy to follow up when you realize the U.S. consumes more drugs both legal and illegal than the rest of the World combined. U.S. is using up 75-80% of the Worlds drug production, both legal and illegal. I cant blame them, if I had to live there I would be s drug addict too for sure.

occupybacon

Pro CIA and pro Truth data, funny. So they control Google but can’t controll the wikipedia, funny. And they will put a cip in your vaccine and controll you with a 5G phone.

Lone Ranger

Nobody can fully controll the net net even the CIA and Google. Indeed, Im glad you admit the plans of your superiors.

occupybacon

Google and Wikipedia are not the entire Internet, they have basically 2 databases. Each site has a database. So these 2 can be controlled very well.

Lone Ranger

I was talking in general about the Internet. And no, it cant. If you would be right we could only read CIA /Mossad/SBU narratives. But thats not the case, aka they lack total control, at least for now…

occupybacon

I never said CIA controlls the entire internet, google or wikipedia. You said they controll certain pages of google and wikipedia and I told you if CIA would control those specific pages, they could control the entire sites since they are on the same database. I know it’s hard to understand for a midget :)

Lone Ranger

Dont call yourself a midget thats very derigatory to yourself… That means they lack manpower, their control is not 24/7 and not all seeing either, hence they have to use low grade trolls like you…to whitewash the stories if tgey coms up, much more cost effective to troll threads from time to time than to edit 24/7, too bad you guys suck at trolling…

occupybacon

Who doesn’t like midgets? Putin is a midget and he chosen Medvedev as partner. So CIA doesn’t have enough people to edit wikipedia but they hired me to troll you. Since you figured out the scheme we have to cip you.

Lone Ranger

Putin isnt tall but he aint midget. Bring lunch and bodybags, it could take a while.

occupybacon

Ask your mom for launch.

Lone Ranger

What a comeback… Not lunchtime either…

occupybacon

Ok, nughty night

Lone Ranger

Night night ?

Styx

You can’t help being a very superior bacon, can you ..

Never mind, do you have anything of substance to say about the CONTENT of this article:

https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/covid-19-un-explained/

Do try not to use the dismissive tactic of the most familiar kind if you care to reply. You know – “conspiracy theory” and all that ..

occupybacon

Sorry the article is too long. I just red few rows, about Wuhan military games and two american citizens, a soldier and a sportswoman who participated in a contest who might be patients 0s. If it was your mission to spread the virus, this is the method you would think of, give the virus to own citizens and send them to oficial ceremonies abroad? Isn’t it a bit low?

Styx

Truth is stranger than fiction is the only thing that I am sure of.

Plenty of premeditated ops can and do go horribly wrong.

The author doesn’t claim that he fully understands the picture anyway. He simply suggests that the current state of the pandemic needs to be investigated further.

occupybacon

One thing I know is I won’t be among the first vaccinated and will try to avoid it as much possible. But that doesn’t mean I believe in the chip and 5G theory.

Styx

Well, thank you for your replies.

I will get vaccinated though as soon as I can.

occupybacon

Good luck!

Farmer Scott

“I will get vaccinated though as soon as I can.” – You might want to wait and see the results of those that get those shots first. Maybe even wait for the next year or two.

Styx

In the ideal world, I certainly would.

Needless to say, we don’t live in the ideal world.

Southern

Anyone lining up to be vaccinated with a untested vaccine against a non verified ”virus” is on par with bird brains cranial capacity.

Natural_Texan

Not trying to come off as a ‘conspiracy theorist’ but if we’re already seeing a few people get very sick or pass out (or get fake injections) how much of that is really going on?

Southern

Search – People getting ill from Covid vaccinations –

There was someone on Mintpress very recently who claimed that he was participating in a vaccine trial in Northern England – he didn’t get ill and presumed that he had reveived a placebo. [see https://www.mintpressnews.com/assassination-of-mohsin-fakhrezadeh-war-against-iran-covid-19-vaccine/273399/#comment-5182284590 ]

The PCR isn’t even a test but a amplification tool – we have been misled into believing that it’s test [Look up the Corman Drosden paper has been retracted on RT] Flawed paper behind Covid-19 testing faces being retracted, after scientists expose its ten fatal problems RT

The vaccines contain dangerous side effects and even worse for woman.

FDA Safety Surveillance of COVID-19 Vaccines: Draft Working list of possible adverse event outcomes ***subject to change***

FDA Safety Surveillance of COVID-19 Vaccines : DRAFT Working list of possible adverse event outcomes ***Subject to change*** § Guillain-Barré syndrome § Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis § Transverse myelitis § Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/ meningoencephalitis/meningitis/ encepholapathy § Convulsions/seizures § Stroke § Narcolepsy and cataplexy § Anaphylaxis § Acute myocardial infarction § Myocarditis/pericarditis § Autoimmune disease § Deaths § Pregnancy and birth outcomes § Other acute demyelinating diseases § Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions § Thrombocytopenia § Disseminated intravascular coagulation § Venous thromboembolism § Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain § Kawasaki disease § Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children § Vaccine enhanced disease https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download

TED tenders electronic daily

Description of the procurement: The MHRA urgentl;y seeks an Artificial Intelligence [AI] software tool to process the expected high volume of Covid -19 Vaccine Adverse Reaction [ADR] and ensure that no details from the ADR’s reaction text are missed

https://www.bitchute.com/video/SVv28Aga5M4C/

—- There’s much to this – what is really in these toxic creations and how can vaccines be developed when the so called ”virus” hasn’t been isolated – how will they know what the target is?

Looking up Bill Gates History with eugenics becomes an alarming thriller the man has no medical qualifications his vaccines have harmed hundreds of thousands of people while doubling his own wealth.

1 -BILL GATES EXPLAINS HOW NEW COVID-19 VACCINE WILL CHANGE YOUR DNA FOREVER https://www.bitchute.com/video/LhqoZnHlT60T/

2 – BILL GATES CAUGHT ON VIDEO ADMITTING VACCINE WILL CHANGE OUR DNA FOREVER – https://www.bitchute.com/video/73Rw21iqVYz4/

Southern

Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously. In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines.

Southern

Six people died in the Pfizer vaccine trial.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coronavirus/2020/12/09/pfizer-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccines/

Natural_Texan

Very sad.. more to come I am afraid.

Southern

We’re being played – if any more people die as a result from these vaccinations consider that it’s more than likely to be attributed to something different again just like they were able to artificially inflate the case numbers just to keep the lockdown going.

GypsyFreyja

Speaking of inflated numbers, have you looked at the CDC website lately? Texas shows over 184k new cases for December 18th. Can’t imaging how that is possible. The US is showing over 400k for that day.

Southern

It’s not my regular site however it reminds of a woman whom’s job it was to artificially inflate the numbers – she disagreed and blew the whistle on social media fb and subsequently had her home invaded by uniformed thugs who pointed guns at her children.

I’ll see if I can find it and let you know.

Southern

My bad not in Texas.

WATCH: Police, with Guns Raised, Raid Florida Data Scientist Rebekah Jones’ Home

GypsyFreyja

Awesome Thanks

GypsyFreyja

I did see that. Pretty alarming.

GypsyFreyja

Not my usual site either but I do like to look at it from time to time so I just stumbled across the TX numbers. I haven’t seen anything in the media about it one way or the other. One would think it would cause quite a commotion to have a jump of about 168k in one day in a single state. The CDC site changes constantly and has made it harder to find info.

I think I’ve see it but if you have a link I’d appreciate it.

Southern

Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

The incident of the ”data scientist” in Florida reveals a policy that would not be unique to just one area but in light of the overall bigger picture is applied across a broad spectrum where the truth simply isn’t tolerated.

Rebekah Jones, a Florida data scientist who said in May that she was fired for not changing COVID-19 data, posted a video on Twitter on Monday, December 7

WATCH: Police, with Guns Raised, Raid Florida Data Scientist Rebekah Jones’ Home [Heavy]

GypsyFreyja

This just out. Think the “leftist” will attack GG over this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSVNm7XbnYA

Southern

What is meant by the Left Gypsy – perhaps anyone who is opposed to empire regardless of their personal wealth and GG has to be a wealthy man by now [he need not work no more to support himself]

GG correctly explains and exposes the misinformation behind the wearing of masks and how the social media platforms played a crucial role in forming and manipulating peoples opinions.

FB has all the attributes of a monopoly – [Blackrock is a major shareholder]

In the end it all depends on which political ideology is being pursued.

Anyone going against GG for this interview is skating on thin ice.

GG however needs to refrain from touching his face while doing these kinds of interviews since touching the face has been associated with a negative body language.

GG nails it when he says that populist anger is real – it is – the global lockdown was unwarranted while it served another purpose which you know.

I’ve placed a number of comments on RT recently – they invite illogical AI moderation – in the end its rather strange how a Russian State owned media outlet also functions as a Western propaganda outlet.

We allready know the crimes of empire and how desperate they are to control dissent on the net – Julian Assange being a prime example of draconian censorship by the ”ruling” state.

This is what it’s like to be living in Vichy France – all kowtow to Washington’s diktata.

Seasons greetings for you and yours.

GypsyFreyja

Good points. Yes, the populists world wide are angry. I think with good reason.

By “leftist” I’m referring to those who want to bang everyone’s head about leftist ideas/ideologies but never questioned the Covid narrative nor the loss of freedoms (and constant surveillance) attached to it. Those who have endlessly attacked you, me and others for simply asking questions then put us in the lot with Trump supporters/tin foil hatters/conspiracy theorists to try to discount and dismiss.

As for the self described Left (politicians/pundits/academics/etc), I already know they will go after GG if they acknowledge him at all.

I was impressed when Greenwald was asked about the Covid censorship, his answer was direct and not a political non answer.

Thank you, Southern. Seasons greetings to you and yours as well. Hoping for a better new year for us all.

Southern

This is well worth sharing.

https://www.corbettreport.com/

GypsyFreyja

I’ve see it and yes it is!

Lone Ranger

List by other sources and years (1985–2018)

occupybacon

No link?

Lone Ranger

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/04/27/americans-consume-almost-all-of-the-global-opioid-supply.html

occupybacon

You just gave me a google amp link you said it’s a CIA service few mins ago.

Lone Ranger

Its the homepage of CNBC…

occupybacon

Check your link again. It’s the amp service you said is CIA.

Lone Ranger

Nice gaslighting… Too bad Im immune. Better luck next time Trollstoy ?

occupybacon

Your link is google amp, dummie

Lone Ranger

CNBC*

occupybacon

That’s the publication, not the link. Learn what a link means :)

Lone Ranger

It doesnt matter its a CNBC site. You can skip the gaslighting…

occupybacon

What does matter is that you said google amp is a CIA service :)

Lone Ranger

It is. Like most the Internet outside of Russia and China.

occupybacon

And the ssl?

occupybacon

A site is not the same thing with a link. I start to suspect you are an oldie. People of my age and below can’t be Internet illiterates and proud of it. So either old or retard.

Lone Ranger

Or just woke. You got lost in translation… Still thinking the net is independent lol. Nope, sorry to dissapoint you. Better Luck next time Trollstoy ?

occupybacon

No, the net is made to track how many times you fap in a day.

Lone Ranger

Shrooms…

occupybacon

My shrooms IQ is greater than yours.

Lone Ranger

According to your shroom brain…

occupybacon

My shrooms make better comebacks than you do.

Lone Ranger

In your shroom imagination… In reality I mopped the floor with you all evening.?

occupybacon

You named your mop after me? How cute, did your mop filled your goatse all night long?

Lone Ranger

Im smart enough to beat you 9 out of 10 times. And Im smart enough not to serve the CIA or satanclaus… Let that sink in ? Night night ?

occupybacon

I’m sure you beat your meat 10 times a day but you are smart enoug, so your mom catch you only once.

Lone Ranger

Shroominator…

occupybacon

Old fapinater.

Lone Ranger

You ain’t sparing yourself tonight…?

occupybacon

Luckyly I’m not you and this is bliss.

Lone Ranger

Demons can’t stand Truth and light. Only lies and darkness. No bliss for you, only damnation I’m afraid. Never too late to repent tho, you still have time.

occupybacon

Kiss my PP, padre Lonly Fapper.

Lone Ranger

Im not your Dad…

occupybacon

Indeed, you are too old :))

Lone Ranger

https://www.rt.com/news/509899-us-opposes-nazi-vote/

So much to the CIA/SBU run colonies…

Operation Paperclip wasn’t such a stellar idea afterall…

occupybacon

LOL. In other news Hitler lost the war.

Lone Ranger

Indeed he did. Next…

occupybacon

Aww you copied that dude who ‘nexted’ you. How cute. Let me make a screenshot so I send him a postcard.

Lone Ranger

I didn’t know the word next was Copyrighted… He is sitting beside you at the troll HQ justvturn your display…

occupybacon

Pleae comment when you find him so we can laugh together.

Lone Ranger

At you? Ok…I will?

occupybacon

Yes, yes :)

Lone Ranger

I sent a wikipedia link

occupybacon

But what about the other wikipedia link that places Russia on top?

Lone Ranger

I answered that question in my other reply, scroll…

occupybacon

I’d trust mine :)

Lone Ranger

A CIA troll would… Too bad you are in the minority. Mankind is awekening…

occupybacon

We will have you chiped and your attitude will improve.

Lone Ranger

Come and try it ?

occupybacon

Okay :D

Lone Ranger

Thats the CIA run one aka the false one.

occupybacon

Why would CIA run only some wikipedia pages and not all if them?

Lone Ranger

Lack of manpower. They even employ ukropnazis and Chinese. Not the cream de la cream quality tho… Lkke in the good ol times…

occupybacon

You don’t know even the basics of the Internet, a Wikipedia page can be edited by anyone, there are no pages asigned to people.

Lone Ranger

There is oversight. There are editors. Only not enough on either side.

occupybacon

And CIA wanted to put this info on wiki, but they didn’t have enough efitors for both pages, they edited only one. I can’t stop having fun with retards like you.

Lone Ranger

Projecting much..?? They edited the page with lies, than some valid editor put up real valid info too leaving the lies there as well. CIA didn’t notice till now, Im sure you already called the SBU, dont worry they should have fixed it soon enough… Im not the one selling my soul for a few pennies…talking about retards…

occupybacon

CIA didn’t find the wiki page but you did, smarty pants. You are the Internet miner CIA should have hired, someone will contact you soon, with an irresistible offer.

Lone Ranger

Im not forsale ?

occupybacon

Joking. Nobody would buy.

Lone Ranger

Indeed, Im already sold.

occupybacon

Say hey to the other hookers

Lone Ranger

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

occupybacon

Tabloid titles for low minded apes. https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/403307/russia-is-quite-literally-drinking-itself-to-death/amp/

Lone Ranger

Google is a CIA front. I presented Facts. You presented BS.

occupybacon

Lol, you don’t know what amp is? That’s not a google site, is a service.

Lone Ranger

CIA service… Thanks but no thanks.

occupybacon

That’s why you are poor.

Lone Ranger

Am I? Thanks I didn’t know…

occupybacon

Poor people are always behind with technology trends. That’s you.

Lone Ranger

Is that why the U.S. lagging behind on every front? Tech trends are for slaves aka poor people, like you… I dont need to troll for motbey and sell my soul, so who is the poor again… Next…

occupybacon

Basically yeah, don’t get too much in tech trends, it steals your soul.

Lone Ranger

You are full of Veritas tonight.

occupybacon

Thanks, you are always the same.

Lone Ranger

https://fullfact.org/online/Excess-winter-deaths-UK/

occupybacon

LOL. You can’t make difference between fact and a figure of speech in an article. Read some jokes, they could bring some sense of humor in your life.

Lone Ranger

Truth hurts try to handle it Trollstoy ?

Lone Ranger

Like I said the UK is a crumbling CIA colony. Even worse off than Ukraine. Thanks to Russia no Ukropnazis are freezing.

occupybacon

More people die frozen in Russia anually than the rest of the world combined.

AM Hants

Have you got the statistics for that or just assuming because Siberia is cold, then Russia has no natural energy or heating systems in place?

occupybacon

Keyword: infrastructure

AM Hants

Infrastructure?????? You saying there are no energy supplies, over in Siberia owing to not having the infrastructure available to shift the Siberian energy resources??????

So riddle me this, how come Siberia could supply LNG gas to the UK and US, when both nations were having problems with cold weather? Yet, according to you, they could not use the local energy resources for their own needs?

occupybacon

Because the infrasteucture for exports bring money to olygarchs while internal infrastructure is subventionated by the state thus losing money. So it can rust and poor Russians freeze.

AM Hants

Poor Russians??? As once again you mistake Russia for Ukraine.

occupybacon

Ukrainians are poor too, but Ukraine isn’t the most resource rich country in the world. It’s funny how you can’t find a single Russian product in a supermarket and they have 100 billionaires in Moscow.

AM Hants

You cannot find a single Russian product in a supermarket? Do you mean a supermarket in the US or a supermarket in Russia?

How many Russian billionaires, slung out of Russia, in the millennium, are living in South Kensington? I am sure it is more than 100. Nice to know there are still a few, who are good Russian Citizens, paying their taxes and keeping out of politics, that live in Moscow.

occupybacon

What did I just read? LOL

Lone Ranger

In CIA funded Disney movies. In reality the U.S. and UK are the worst.

occupybacon

That’s why we are talking in Russian here cause US and UK are the worst

Lone Ranger

Same as the Crumbling Roman Empire and Third Reich was, indeed.

occupybacon

And the Babilonians and Noe flooding from the Bible, all in one.

Lone Ranger

Driven by the same evil. Indeed.

occupybacon

Reptilians, Anunakis, the Devil, Americans, the Jews? Who is the evil?

Lone Ranger

Satanclaus. The rest are only servants and useful idiots, like you…

occupybacon

C’mon, Satanclaus is not gonna eat your feet tonight, he’s afraid to get out from under your bed.

Lone Ranger

You can keep playing funny but we both know reality. Only difference you chose darkness.

occupybacon

But darkness lets people keep their eyes open and eventually find matches and build their own if they are smart, your blinding light keeps your eyes close forever and leads you like an animal.

Lone Ranger

How much shrooms and coke did you take tonight…?

occupybacon

Enough to buy yo and your family a place to live. Near my grandpa’s dog.

Lone Ranger

Thats too much shrooms bruh…

occupybacon

Don’t worry, you won’t freeze to death like in Russia.

Lone Ranger

USA/UK*

occupybacon

*Muscalistan

Lone Ranger

Ukropisstan* Oh wait, they arent, Russia keeps them warm. Russia is love Russia is life ??

occupybacon

Russia should do something with the food prices too :) those 100 billionaires should pay their fair share

Lone Ranger

Indeed they should, 12% tax is a bit low for a billionair. But Russians can still afford food contrary to a 100million Americans and prices are skyrocketing world wide not just in Russia. I thought its sleepy time…

occupybacon

Where I’m living the prices dropped since the restaurants are closed, the storaged food spoils so they they to sell it. As for US since they have the GMOs they have some of the cheapest food, China is importing soy from there.

Lone Ranger

U.S. food prices have increased by 50% on avg since January. Here in Hungary like in most E U countries prices increased as well here around 40%. It’s noticable more expensive. GMO soy is for cattle like you…

occupybacon

The biggest BS I have read this week :) now I got it how you Russians endure famines and any disaster, you tell yourself that the West is worse :)

Lone Ranger

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/04/grocery-prices-unemployed/

Lone Ranger

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/12/us-grocery-costs-jump-the-most-in-46-years-led-by-rising-prices-for-meat-and-eggs.html

occupybacon

Where is your 40% boomer? 2-3% fluctuations are normal in food prices.

Lone Ranger

No, they aren’t. And that’s monthly increase not yearly. Either way food didn’t get cheaper like you said, maybe in Ukraine did, when you received your free potatoe aid from Russia…

occupybacon

Hahaha, so that’s where the rage come from, there is famine already =”D

Lone Ranger

Indeed. Poor Americants. Hope Russia, EU and China will send some food aid.

occupybacon

Darn americans and their expensive food https://southfront.org/food-price-crisis-in-russia-putin-gives-ultimatum-for-solution/

Lone Ranger

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2019/08/12/Food-prices-in-Europe-rising-at-rapid-rate-Where-are-the-most-expensive-countries-to-eat

Lone Ranger

And that was even before covid hit…

occupybacon

Please Ruskie, gave Americans some buckwheat

Lone Ranger

Hungarian* Dont worry we will along with whole EU Russia and China, Turkey and Mexico too probably.

occupybacon

Hungarian my ass. 40% prices up? Only a Ruskie can imagine such tragedy.

Lone Ranger

Your ass aint Hungarian son. Hard facts. Its only a tragedy if you cant pay for it. Thankfully we are smart people and livingstandards went up in the past 10years hopefully priced will drop once this BS is cleared out. So dont panic just yet… Americants on the other hand…oy vey…

occupybacon

:))) https://southfront.org/food-price-crisis-in-russia-putin-gives-ultimatum-for-solution/

Lone Ranger

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/02/us-food-banks-coronavirus-demand-unemployment

occupybacon

Google amp CIA service :))

Lone Ranger

Tell them they need more ukropnazis to monitor….

occupybacon

You think I’m stupud? That would lower my wage.

Lone Ranger

Soros wont spare the money for quality trolls…

occupybacon

That’s why you have no job. You are too good for them.

Lone Ranger

Projecting again Trollstoy? P.S. trolling for money aint a job son…

occupybacon

Living in your mom’s basement is a brilliant career.

Lone Ranger

You should move out…

occupybacon

In your mom’s bed, with you? Nahh.. I’ll let you two having fun.

Lone Ranger

Comments like that tell a lot about your childhood, hope you know that…

occupybacon

Yeah, you bring me up childhood memories when I wasn’t using condoms when banging that mature hooker which is your mom now, she was giving some sloppy blowjobs and taking in the ass like dead swine, she farted cum with shit which thrickled in the wrong hole and here we are, son.

Lone Ranger

Oy vey, you must come from a very dark place… Sorry that you were molested as a child but its not my fault nor that of Russia. Try something new instead of working for the type of people whom fucked you up. Just an idea…

occupybacon

There is no darker or stinker place than your mum’s black hole. And that’s not fault of Russia either. It’s the fault of NASA because they didn’t find yet a larger black hole.

Lone Ranger

Ok bacon, get some sleep bruh. You are mentally echausted ?

occupybacon

Btw bruh, what happened to your job? Kicked you again?

Lone Ranger

Night night ?

occupybacon

Yeah after pounding you in all positions, I need a beer :)

Lone Ranger

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/02/us-food-banks-coronavirus-demand-unemployment

occupybacon

Darn google amp CIA service

Lone Ranger

Whole internet is CIA outside of Russia and China. But they dont have full control. Has the former head of NSA quoted “its a double edged sword”, can cut in both directions…

occupybacon

Talking shit is not going to put the buckwheat on your table, hungry moscal.

Lone Ranger

Truth hurts try to handle it Trollstoy. Calling me Russian wont buy you any more credibility…ukrop. Most visitors here arent soros/cuaz buddies of xours…

occupybacon

You are encircled by the enemies, fighting last battle like a true hero.

Lone Ranger

I didn’t know Budapest was encircled… Is it your hasbarat buddies with nerf guns and water pistols…? Oy oy…

occupybacon

Is there a poor village in Siberia named Budapest?

Lone Ranger

Ukrop education right there…

occupybacon

Or the village pub which has wifi?

Lone Ranger

Is that why you are gone for longer periods sometimes…? Didnt soros or Pimpeo gave you better net connection? I hope you aint trolling with a dial up modem ?

occupybacon

I have a 5G module in my head.

Lone Ranger

I hope its made by Huawei…

occupybacon

I would praise Putin in that case.

Lone Ranger

Fake news…

Lone Ranger

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/12/april-saw-sharpest-increase-grocery-store-prices-nearly-50-years/

occupybacon

“Overall, consumers paid 2.6 percent more in April for groceries”

Where is your 40%?

Lone Ranger

In April… That’s one month…

occupybacon

So there is famine in Russia. I live in EU and the prices went up in spring because of the hoarders that were building stocks.

Lone Ranger

So there is famine in the U.S. I live in the EU and the prices went up in whole year because of the hoarders and lack of workers from Romania, Poland and Ukropisstan thanks to lockdowns. Fixed ???

occupybacon

“The FAO Meat Price Index, by contrast, declined 0.5 percent from September, marking the ninth monthly decline since January, driven by drop in pig meat”

Where is your wishful “40%” price rise in EU?

Lone Ranger

The rest went up.

occupybacon

In Russia maybe. Putin said it.

Lone Ranger

Not as much as it did in the EU or the U.S.

occupybacon

In New York foot is cheaper than in Moscow.

Lone Ranger

In Disney movies.

Lone Ranger

In reality people are fleeing new york right jow.

occupybacon

They are fleeing in Russia.

Lone Ranger

Some are. But Mexico, Canada, small nation islands are their prime target.

occupybacon

Kamtchatka is the best destination.

Lone Ranger

For volcanic tours for sure.

Lone Ranger

Truth hurts try to handle it Trollstoy… P.S. I’m still Hungarian.

occupybacon

Yeah yeah yeah…

Lone Ranger

High George Michael…

Lone Ranger

https://reliefweb.int/report/world/global-food-prices-continue-rising-october

occupybacon

It says nothing near 40% :))

Lone Ranger

You said it got cheaper… Reality is always worse than sugarcoated articles. Like when they say U.S. debt is $28zrillion, would be worse enough, but they forget to add the hundreds of trillions in the derivative bubble… Private debt too… Either way I won. Again…

occupybacon

So where are the articles with 40% in EU and 50% – US, food price rise?

Lone Ranger

Learn to read…

occupybacon

Okay :) https://southfront.org/food-price-crisis-in-russia-putin-gives-ultimatum-for-solution/

Lone Ranger

CIA fake news. Russians are far better off than the U.S. or EU.

occupybacon

Is Southfront CIA fake news? Yoy need to calm down, ma’am.

Lone Ranger

SouthFront is not CIA proof. Many writers work for them or collaborate with them. Not all are legit. Wouldnt be the first BS article I read here either, still the majority is ok. Im calm, Karen ?, dont worry….

occupybacon

So Putin didn’t say that things in the article?

Lone Ranger

Not in that tone, no. The article magnified what he said in a sensational matter in a similiar style to CNN. Aka fake news. Russia is far better off than the U.S. 100million people arent starving, 14million arent facing eviction, no tent cities either.

occupybacon

But you just commented the article sating that’s how a great leader speaks.

Lone Ranger

What Putin said and what the article is saying are two different things. Better luck next time Trollstoy ?

occupybacon

It’s an accurate article.

Lone Ranger

If you are a CIA troll. For the rest of the World its BS.

occupybacon

Your mom’s basement us your world.

Lone Ranger

Projection…

occupybacon

From your article: The FAO Meat Price Index, by contrast, declined 0.5 percent from September, marking the ninth monthly decline since January, driven by drop in pig meat

Lone Ranger

I see I hit a nerve…? Truth hurts try to handle it Trollstoy ?

occupybacon

I was only 95% you are a Russian pretending to be Hungarian, now I’m 100%.

Lone Ranger

100% wrong*? We can talk in Hungarian if you want…

occupybacon

Did you discover google translate, grandpa?

Lone Ranger

I dont need it Im a native speaker. Google translate isnt working well with Hungarian, the grammar is too complex ?

occupybacon

From your article: “The FAO Meat Price Index, by contrast, declined 0.5 percent from September, marking the ninth monthly decline since January, driven by drop in pig meat”

Lone Ranger

Thats one type of meat… Overall food prices went up by at least 40% I know Truth hurts but try to handle it. 100million Americans are starving, 14million face eviction. 27tent cities across the U.S. with millions of homeless people. But hey at least the CIA still had money to pay your trollchecks…

occupybacon

You can’t know that, from your poor village in Siberia.

Lone Ranger

I live in Budapest and experience it on a daily basis like my fellow citizens… Better luck next time Trollstoy ?

occupybacon

Hungry Russian is hungry.

Lone Ranger

Hungry Americant is hungry*

Lone Ranger

Did I earn you your happy meal menu for today yet…?

occupybacon

I’m donating it to you.

Lone Ranger

No need to. Im full. You need those carbs and nutrients…

occupybacon

You’re full of cum.

Lone Ranger

I dont think so since Im not you. Sorry to dissapoint you…

Lone Ranger

Let me guess you also worship Lucifer…

occupybacon

Don’t call Him by that name, he doesn’t like it.

Lone Ranger

Satanclaus is better?

occupybacon

Stop insulting Him!

Lone Ranger

Oy gevalt…

Lone Ranger

You didn’t answer the question…

occupybacon

You didn’t ask it properly.

Lone Ranger

Are you worshipping Satan? Proper enough?

occupybacon

From time to time. Just a hobby.

Lone Ranger

Repent till you can.

occupybacon

Okay :)

AM Hants

I live in the UK and so agree with you. How much is the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office spending on Russian Disinformation Programmes, and keeping Ukraine sweet? Whilst the elderly in care homes have not been able to see their families and loved ones since before March? Young cancer victims die, without being able to get a diagnosis let alone treatment, owing to Corona restrictions. The increase in mental health problems and not forgetting are homeless, out on the streets, with zero support, courtesy the lunatics in Westminster and how they prioritise in favour of the oligarchs, wherever they may be.

What do the citizens of Ukraine get from the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, assistance? What do the oligarchs of Ukraine get from the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, generous assistance?

Styx

Interesting view on the subject of Brexit from the heights of Duke University, North Carolina by Monseigneur Kevin Surin of Blacksburg, Virginia, published by the legendary CounterPunch:

DECEMBER 16, 2020

The Brexit Blame Game

AM Hants

Thanks Styx, and look forward to reading it.

AM Hants

Just read it and jury is out on the article, although I like the way they sum up Boris.

Do not trust him as far as you could throw him, and owing to his size, that would not be very far. So I can believe on 1 January 2021, the UK will be paying $40 billion per annum to the EU, plus, hand over the fishing industry and anything else they desire. The City of London, will be safe, whatever happens and wasn’t the whole reason for Cameron agreeing to the Referendum, was owing to the City of London, needing out of EU demands, owing to getting the contract to trade in Yuan. Remember, the Yuan had just been accepted by the IMF to join the reserve currencies.

Two archived article, from Voltairenet, and funnily enough, owing to events at the moment, quite relevant, that link into what I have just said.

Brexit coincides with India’s and Pakistan’s entry into the SCO by Alfredo Jalife-Rahme…. https://www.voltairenet.org/article192705.html

The Brexit reshuffles world geopolitics by Thierry Meyssan https://www.voltairenet.org/article192607.html

At the end of the day, if we go for Hard Brexit, which is what most voted for, independence from the EU and not to be linked into or controlled by it, we forget that 80% of the planet owns 20% world debt and 20% of the planet, including the EU, Japan and US own 80% world debt. Why are the politicians so frightened of the UK reaching for independence? Why is Boris Johnson so intent in upsetting the nations that we could actually work with, post January 2021.

Styx

Excellent observations, thank you.

AM Hants

To be honest, did not have time refresh myself with the articles. I used to share them a lot, owing to the fact they were so interesting. However, with all that is going on at the moment, especially with regards the US Election and all the allegations, I need to revisit those articles. I wonder if I will view the words any differently, although, they will be just as interesting now as they were back in 2016.

Just watching Top of the Pops Christmas special and laughing. Used to be a massive Slade fan and Christmas Top of the Pops would not be the same without Noddy and the boys haha. Plus David Essex and Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Quite entertaining how what was so easy on the eye back then, well, they look like kids now. Tpau are now on and all I can say about 80s fashion, is ‘ooooops, but could have been worse, when you look back at the 70s’. Used to love Christmas Day and Top of the Pops, just before the Queens Speech and then some blockbuster film. What do we get now? Soap misery, back to back and no ‘Top of the Pops’, that used to make laying the table, enjoyable. Oh, now it is the Pet Shop Boys.

AM Hants

Why am I laughing at your comment, when thinking of Adolf, back in the 40s and his reaction to freezing Russia. Back to Berlin, so comes to mind.

occupybacon

No thinking about the vikings from 800 BC? :D

AM Hants

Anno Domino, I do believe you mean. Now are you on about how the Vikings are part of the history of the formation of Russia or what the Vikings were getting upto, over in the UK?

occupybacon

No I mean BC since I was quoting you.

AM Hants

The 3 Dumb Monkeys, can never keep up with your name changes. Yep, I admit I got BC from a mistaken website, years ago and it should have been AD. So I assume you are trying to quote me, as you follow the 5D troll manual, as your comment has absolutely nought to do with the contents of the article.

Now what is the 77th Brigade, General Harding, Belingcat, and Statecraft/Integrity Initiative/Open Information Partnership or whatever they call themselves today, 5D Training Programme?

Discourse Derail Deny Disagree Discredit.

occupybacon

Mistakes are understandable even if you say them 3 times, because if you don’t have many things to say, you have to repeat what you know.

Bruno Giordano

Interesting discussion LOL. You admit that you got “BC” from a mistaken website years ago. Now that is interesting, housewife hants. Assuming that some obscure website did indeed make such a stupid mistake (would love to see the proof for that), you have made it clear that you uncritically accept the biggest nonsense and that you shamelessly relay that nonsense. Quite exemplary, isn’t it, mrs housewife? May I add a 6th “D”, for what’s apparently your hobby: Disinform?

AM Hants

It was a chronological timeline of Russia and back in 2014.

What is your problem Bruno, as I have always stated that the sites cater for ‘arm chair gossips’. Many of my posts, ask questions and based on people making up their own minds, by finding out more. Articles, I am more than happy to share and I also post papers from Governments and Institutions.

Like for instance , what links did I use to share a lot, with regards the UN and NATO argument regarding self determination? You know, the argument that Crimea used, just like the UK used it for BREXIT and the Scottish Referendum. Or what did the UK Government, back in 1994, have to say about Ukraine not holding onto Crimea, owing to the way they show such little respect to the people of Crimea and have never bothered investing in Crimea.

FOR: NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANISATION

Office of Information and Press

FINAL REPORT

THE KOSOVO CRISIS IN AN INTERNATIONAL LAW PERSPECTIVE: SELF-DETERMINATION, TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY AND THE

NATO INTERVENTION https://www.nato.int/acad/fellow/99-01/kumbaro.pdf

1970 DECLARATION ON PRINCIPLES OF INTERNATIONAL LAW CONCERNING FRIENDLY RELATIONS AND CO-OPERATION AMONG STATES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS (GAR 2625) Adopted on 24 October 1970 https://cil.nus.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/formidable/18/1970-Declaration-on-Principles-of-International-Law-Concerning-Friendly-Relations.pdf

Prime Minister’s Papers from 1994 released Friday 28 December 2018 UK-Russian relations (PREM 19/4420-4422),…. https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/prime-ministers-papers-from-1994-released/

Bruno Giordano

Your comment illustrates your 6 D’s and dishonesty very well, hants.

V Discourse V Derail V Deny V Disagree V Discredit V Disinform

Thanks

Ralph London

Thought you might want to be amused, AM: ‘18.12.20. Notes from the resource “Black List of the Armed Forces of Ukraine”.

“The Armed Forces of Ukraine, in the so-called” OOS ” zone, do not have much entertainment, so the soldiers of the 501st battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine decided to organize an underground gambling club out of idleness. However, these adult soldiers are not interested in playing candy wrappers, and they use quite solid bets, which, sometimes, the losers have to pay in very interesting ways. So recently, one of the fighters lost an apartment to his colleagues, but did not want to rewrite it to the winners. But the winners of the card game turned out to be “not made with a finger” and immediately taught the poor guy how to live by cutting off his finger with a chainsaw… But when the finger was cut off, the newly formed Yakuza suddenly realized that there was no medic in the battalion’s location. Moreover, to save the half-cut sister city, the soldiers could not even find a green card… When the battalion commander of the 501st battalion found out about the incident, being in the subject of underground card entertainment, he decided to pay the soldier’s debt to the twin cities, and ordered to keep silent about the whole situation, and not report to anyone.

***

The militants of the armed formations of Ukraine continue to delight us with their hopeless stupidity, this time these dummies managed to burn down a combat engineering vehicle and an anti-aircraft gun in front of the patrol of the OSCE mission. Now let the whole world know what idiots serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and have equipment near residential areas.

***

In the 72nd brigade, as well as in any other brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there are stable problems with the number and quality of personnel. Therefore, those responsible for recruiting tear their hair, and not only if someone needs to be fired, but there is no one to take their place. It comes to the point of absurdity: soldiers go on the run, and they spend many more months as regularly serving, if only the percentages and indicators do not fall. And you can also make money on this, especially if you scare the runaways well and negotiate with them about a bribe for the lack of pursuit and search by the brigade. Noticeably, this is what happened to a certain Dzyuba and his friend with the call sign Makedon. No one remembers when they left the unit, or even what they looked like, and according to the papers they are still serving. And all because before they left, they thought of making an agreement at the brigade headquarters. However, one day the case took a new and very serious turn: another check still got to the point that these two were missing and gave rise to an official trial. But the left, and the brigade Deputy on the radar decided not to bother and to continue to receive additional salary “dead souls”, so gave the command to his subordinate officer battalion Golinska and is responsible for the staff of the company Semenchenko “lose” case. After that, the situation was again suspended for a long time, but recently, during another check, they suddenly remembered about these lost ones again and urgently requested to report on what stage their affairs were at. And here the most interesting part begins: the documentation has long been completely destroyed, and Gulinsky and Semenchenko can’t report anything now without setting up their boss. So they are silent for a couple, blinking their eyes and spreading their hands. They are trying to stall for time and hope that this time will pass too.”‘

Vox Populi

Russia has bigger problems than Ukraine with food shortages and impending famine. Ukraine is now NATO’s spearhead in the campaign to dismantle Russia.

Lone Ranger

USA has bigger problems than Ukraine with food shortages and impending famine. Ukraine is now NATO’s lspdog slave colony in the campaign to dismantle itself for the greater Israel Project. Fixed Trollstoy ???

AM Hants

Food shortages and impending famine, over in Russia? Seriously, when the non-GM nation, not only can feed herself, but, is the primary exporter for grain. Do believe you are muddling Russia up with Ukraine.

Ricky Miller

What a lie. You clearly have limited information sources inside Russia. The problem isn’t with having enough food, Russia had another in a long string of robust harvests. The problem is that farmers in Russia are being subjected to increasing interest rates from greedy bankers and are trying to pass those costs onto consumers. Stores are full but are sporting marked up price tags, so much so that food prices will now be regulated by the government. Quietly, behind the scenes, the banker class in Russia is going to have to be called to the Kremlin for a come to Jesus meeting. Your information, as usual, is flawed and distorted beyond actual reality.

nah-uh-uh

“Russia” should end in the Urals, speak a Dene-Yeniseian language, and a plurality of male population having Y-haplogroup Q. And by the way, Slavs originated in the Pripyat Marshes, and they should be classified as “Southeast Balts”.

Lone Ranger

On the other hand Im not worried. 99.9% of funds will be stolen. That means they will build 1-2 toyboats tops, add a few rubber ducks and nerf guns and you have top notch ukropnazi navy.

occupybacon

How about the first hand?

Igors Savitsas

Turkish pigs openly confront Russia. Russia shall openly support the Kurds in their fight for independence, just like the Turkish PIGS supported the kosovo terrorists. FAQ TURKEY!

occupybacon

Isn’t the word ‘pussy’ looking very like ‘Russia’?

cechas vodobenikov

porky sexually repressed like pizdet amerikanski

occupybacon

Cheers!

HiaNd

You were always US c o c k sucking bot

occupybacon

Ok Pussyan

HiaNd

US c o c k sucking bot

occupybacon

Lil muzik

farbat

the turks are such a bunch of fools XD

Vox Populi

Let’s not underestimate Turks, they had the most sustainable Muslim empire and have always been a predominant Eurasian power. Largely due to British intrigues, the Ottomans were carved up, but now as the noted historian Stephan Kinzer noted a decade ago, Turkey is back and in the vacuum created by US blunders, Turkey is asserting itself as power shifts to China and Asia. Turkey is embarked on extending its influence in the Caucasus and regain the lands lost to Russia. It is achieving its goals, so far. Its Achilles Heel is Syria which may prove fatal to Erdogan, as the Ottomans found with Arabs.

ESTARGON

The Ottoman Empire weakened from its own weaknesses and ended. Of course, there are many lessons to be learned from history for us Turks. However, it is a miracle to achieve this much with a small population. For example, while there were 100 million Russians in 1910, there were only 13 million Turkish population in the Ottoman Empire. Today, Turkey’s population of 80 milyon.rus 140 million.

farbat

go on run you dogs run towards your end XD http://tse2.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.O1TWgBz5HWmjOFMfFXH6yAAAAA?pid=Api&rs=1

cechas vodobenikov

ukraine sells canoes to turkey with amerikan Indian spears to protect from pygmy invasion

Vox Populi

Much to the chagrin of propaganda bots here, Russia is naive to think that Turkey will ever be its “friend”. Even the most inebriated clod must know that Turkey is a complete western vassal and a linchpin of NATO’s aggressive war machine, which is now solely focused on the Balkanization of Russia and Ukraine is the spearhead. Ukraine is also training base for Tartars, Chechens, Dagistanis and other Russian minorities that are determined to become independent from Slavic bungling and ineptitude. The Jihad against Russia combined with a color coded revolution will gain speed during Biden era, just as Reagan destroyed the USSR.

Sauron

Inevitable cooperation. One has what the other desperately needs. Turkey wouldn’t have to start from scratch for its R&D, and Ukraine will not depend on any prosecutions in order to get defenses it needs. We will see the fruits soon. Baykar’s new drone already in production

HiaNd

“Turkey wouldn’t have to start from scratch for its R&D” What effing “scratch”?!? Who was stopping Turks from starting to build from “scratch” if not their total ignorance and absence of know how?!!? They had ambitions (even money 10 years ago) but they couldn’t build jack shit because their knowledge and experience was ZERO !! Building “5th generation” airplane has advanced ZERO percent. When was the last time when Turkey has built aircraft engine a chopper engine or drone engine? Suddenly out of blue, they have have new prototype for chopper engine in development and new anti-ship missile…All things that could have bought from Ukraine and build with their (USSR) know how.With their help. And this is what is it all about.

Sauron

“Turkey wouldn’t have to start from scratch for its R&D” What effing “scratch”?!? Who was stopping Turks from starting to build from “scratch” if not their total ignorance and absence of know how?!!? – The expenses. Its cheaper to get the ready plans than develop the plans. They had ambitions (even money 10 years ago) but they couldn’t build jack shit because their knowledge and experience was ZERO !! – It was, hence why they are getting the know how from Ukraine Building their “5th generation” airplane has advanced ZERO percent all these years. When was the last time when Turkey has built aircraft engine a chopper engine or drone engine? – Which is why they are getting the plans of engine from Ukraine Suddenly out of blue, they have have new prototype for chopper engine in development and new anti-ship missile…All things that could have bought from Ukraine and built with Ukrainian (USSR) know how.. And that is what is this “cooperation” all about. – yes, cooperation is when you get something in return for something

Random Dude

Ahahahaha. Triggered Serb got lost in his own illusions and got confused in comment section. https://media1.giphy.com/media/xhN4C2vEuapCo/giphy.gif

HiaNd

“The expenses. Its cheaper to get the ready plans than develop the plans” You have no clue what are you talking about.. Nobody starts to build chopper or airplane engines starting from ZERO without previous knowledge or experience without some external help or assistance. Only USSR and China could start from ZERO but even they started by stealing know how secrets (USSR from West and China have copied USSR know how ) But Turkey is not USSR or China. So they need blueprints even experience-know how! And that is where Ukraine is needed.

So the answer is NO. It was not money problem for Turkey! It was know-how problem ! They simply didn’t know how to do it! The rest I will not even comment.

ESTARGON

The Russians got the technology from the Germans. German technology could not beat the Russian population crowd.After the war, the Russians started the great industrial breakthrough after the war by bringing all kinds of industrial elements (ship and plane plans, production facilities, even engineers and scientists) they could capture in Germany. While hundreds of thousands of German prisoners of war, together with the opponents of the regime, rebuilt the destroyed cities, great advances were made in science, technology and industry. The only country that can compete with the USA in the nuclear technology and space race has even become a “super power”.

T.E.D.S

Erdoğan administration is really a joke, i’m not even sure if he knows what he is doing at this point.

Vox Populi

Erdogan follows Langley masters commands to the T.

HiaNd

Leaching a USSR know-how from BANKRUPTED Ukraine ( just like China did ). That’s what “cooperation” is all about.

Random Dude

The cooperation is about leaching off USSR know how. https://media1.giphy.com/media/ZeKUG0XRpTdE8lGwW2/giphy-downsized-medium.gif

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