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US-led Coalition Forming 30,000-Strong Force To Control Syrian Border

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US-led Coalition Forming 30,000-Strong Force To Control Syrian Border

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On January 14, the US-led coalition announced that it is working with the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) to form a Border Security Force (BSF) that will control the Syrian border with Turkey and Iraq. The BSF will be directly commanded by the SDF and will have over 30,000 fighters, according to the US-led coalition.

The Public Affairs Office of the US-led coalition confirmed to Reuters that a half of BSF fighters will be veterans of the Kurdish-dominated SDF. The US-led coalition is currently recruiting and training new fighters to form the other half of the force.

“They [the BSF] will be providing border security through professionally securing checkpoints and conducting counter-IED operations,” the US-led coalition said according to Reuters.

Moreover, the US-led coalition Public Affairs Office revealed that most of the BSF Arab fighters will serve on the border with Iraq and in the Euphrates valley. The Kurdish fighters will mainly serve on the Syrian-Turkish border.

“Efforts are taken to ensure individuals serve in areas close to their homes. Therefore, the ethnic composition of the force will be relative to the areas in which they serve … More Kurds will serve in the areas in northern Syria. More Arabs will serve in areas along the Euphrates River Valley and along the border with Iraq to the south,” the US-led coalition said.

Some experts believe that the BSF is yet another step by the US to establish a semi-independennt Kurdish state in eastern Syria. On the other hand, Turkish officials and activists see the new force as a direct threat to Turkey as the US-led coalition openly said that it will deploy Kurdish fighters right on the Turkish border.

Ibrahim Kalin spokesman for Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan condemned the US decision to establish the BSF and warned that the US is working to strengthen the People’s Protection Units (YPG), the main part of the SDF, instead of weakening it.

“The USA is taking worrying steps to legitimize this organization and make it lasting in the region. It is absolutely not possible for this to be accepted,” Kalin said according to Reuters.

US President Donald Trump promised Turkey on November 24, 2017 that the US will end its military support for the YPG. However, since then the US has actually increased its support to the YPG and the SDF.

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PZIVJ

This will make Erdogan even more upset. He is probably working on a new speech right now to keep us all amused.

Solomon Krupacek

he is angry. and immediately starts with operation in afrin.

Solomon Krupacek

i told you:

https://southfront.org/hayat-tahrir-al-sham-develops-counter-attack-against-syrian-army-in-southern-idlib-map-videos/

and much worse:

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-al-qaeda-led-offensive-sees-militants-regain-17-towns-syrian-army-southeast-idlib/

Michał Hunicz

Erdogan, send against these, as we see on the photo, Wahhabi Communists, 100.000 troops with full rocket vessels and air support and simply roll them out!

John Whitehot

yeah! I heard there are several battalions of volunteers of North Korean monarchists and Cuban neonazis willing to join that force, that would probably bring the number to 200’000.

Michał Hunicz

PKK – Kurdistan Workers’ Party

FlorianGeyer

I would think that many re-badged ISIS from the Arab tribes along the East bank of the Euphrates will be part of the US plan.

It does drive a bigger wedge between the US and Turkey which will likely erupt into more pain for Syrian civilians.

If there is any justice in the world the US and Turkish forces will suffer greatly. It is only to be regretted that the warmongers in both those governments are not forced to fight and die personally.

dutchnational

As there are only some 2k US forces in Rojava, many likely not even combat personnel, I do not foresee many lossess for US in Northern Syria. Nor for that matter for Turkey, as long as they stay in their own country.

FlorianGeyer

If only the US Military and NGO’s etc would ‘stay in their own country’ , the world would be a better off for it.

John Whitehot

30k? who do they intend to recruit, all males and females from 7 to 70 years who are still able to stay on their feet?

888mladen .

Could be 3000 the most.

dutchnational

Well, as there are some 4.5 to 5.5 million people there, incl a million or so refugees – kurds from Aleppo city, Damascus and arabs from Idlib, Raqqah and DeZ, they will find enough volonteers.

As they found 7k volonteers for Raqqah security, they will manage.

I wonder if they will be deployed in Afrin.

FlorianGeyer

The US have all her ISIS friends as well who are being re-skilled to cut off heads more humanely.

Joe

Let them form whatever as many needs jobs . Time comes most will disappear when they face ASSAD’s allies all combined as happened in Iraq.

How the hack anyone allows lost of territory when he is on the winning side just because Uncle Sam with 2000 miserable soldiers say so??

Imagine it is your country . Do you allow it? Let alone Assad had Turkey, Iran , Russia, and famous Hezbollah not to say the entire Syrian people

Only nuts think this is possible

MichaH

I think that it is quite possible, if not for a long time, but for now. It remains to be seen how long the complete reconquest of the northwest will take, in what condition the Syrian army will then be, how the cooperation of the local Arab groups with the Kurds will unfold. The Syrian government will not risk everything because of the eastern part.

Joe

They may try but I dare to say it is impossible from military and economic points of view.

1 Turkey will never allow it 2 Syrian people will never allow their country to lose that big chunk of land and oil fields So bet your last dollars a lot of volunteers 3. Iran will never allow that as having it means Iran is exposed from the South as US can do anything in that enclave

4. Russia will never allow it as it would negate the entire Syrian campaign and all the costs

5 international laws are on ASSAD’s side

….and US has only one left excuse. To fight Terrorists

Besides ASSAD’s allies are winning the fight even now and Assad had not fought the Kurds as they are not terrorists and supposed to unite Syria again.

It is not winner take whatever territory kind of situation.

Assad does not have to have a strong army to defeat US backed for es His allies will make sure

Wait for Sochi, and the situation will be clear … War or peace.

Look US cannot even defeat Houthis bare footed soldiers so long as they fight with lots of atgm

Do you seriously think those non Kurdish Syrians under SDF will agree to be outside Syria controlled by Americans? So guaranteed lots of fighting and to think the tiny SDF and US forces can handle those problems not to say ASSAD’s allies will attack , is insane.

dutchnational

Sound reasoning.

The only question is whether Syrian power structure is also capable of sound reasoning.

Joe

Wow… Same attitude and mentality as Trump.

Holier than thou… If they had not , do you think their tiny army is able to defeat the efforts of the strongest and richest countries on Earth?

Get real.

They are supperb and should win the Nobel prize to defeat the biggest terrorists threats in the world in spite of efforts by the strongest countries in the world do otherwise.

Can anyone achieves what Assad has achieved? Tell me one that can even be better by 10%.

dutchnational

You know, I try to imagine this and as soon as I read about the 20.000 killed by daddy Assads thugs in Hama around 1980, I swith off. Sorry, I cannot imagine my country in the grips of such vile men.

On second thought, I can. Just have to think of WWII and being under occupation for five years and Syria is worse. A country bombing its own cities, with civillians there, into oblivion. Yak.

Joe

First and foremost no one can untune your misconception of all the bull you read so far from Western MSM.

Keep to the fact today. If you start talking about history , do you know how many Germans died in the hands of allied bombings etc ?

Keep to the present and name me one Arab leader today is better than Assad. Try

Find out why all Syrians especially the minorities like Christians adore him and why Sunni Syrians fight band die for him.

In fact I always ask, why is this guy do gentle and quiet all these while.

Well guy like you would be blind to such and still believe he bombs his own people and expect his soldiers to fight with bananas. You believe be even used cw on his own people too like Trump.

We call you guys…. No standard

That Guy

A shot of bleach would be good for you.

Redadmiral

2million Kurds tops in Afrin. You really think Arabs will join up with the enemy of their country to fight their cousins because the fukin Yanks want it. Think again, and again until you get it right…………….

FlorianGeyer

The military roster will be 30,000 on the payroll but with 25,000 ghosts :) I would think that a US private military crew will administrating this gang.

Loads of money.

so

Another Profit Opportunity. KA-CHING !!!

BL

They’ve imported tens of thousands of PKK fighters from Turkey.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

You also forgot PJAK terrorists from Iran being added in.

888mladen .

Turkey must stop supporting HTS and other terrorist groups in Northern Syria and with SAA jointly deal with YPG and US occupation of Eastern Syria.

888mladen .

Egdogan is wasting his precious time with his inaction and animosity towards SY government . One day it will be too late.

Luigi

I think that was the idea since the beginning. The US was always clear that they will support the creation of a Kurdistan with access to sea. Turkey will have to be partioned too.

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Joe

Just wait after Sochi, it would be clear if the Kurds want to be Syrians or independent . The latter will be war on a large scale for sure

Jonathan Cohen

ABORTION RIGHTS ON THE BORDERS!

atminds

Anti-globalization demonstrators took to the streets of the Swiss capital on Saturday to protest against a planned visit by US President Donald Trump to the World Economic Forum this month.

Trump announced last week that he would attend the WEF in Davos, an annual meeting of global business and political leaders.

888mladen .

What a joke. World Economic Forum is the very heart od Glottalization kabalah

FlorianGeyer

Trump just wants a free holiday. :)

RichardD

Probably fewer protesters than in the UK, which he (or they?) cancelled.

atminds

make love not wars

so

If only you could convince the 1% and their followers. The planet earth is a non stop Circle Jerk.

888mladen .

It looks like YPG has become US modern days ME type of Khmer Rouge.

888mladen .

Erdogan has been gambling with the future of Turkey.

Langaniso Mhlobo

Who give USA legitimate sovereign right in Syria to train terrorist infiltrating terrorist in Syria.

Redadmiral

USA have legitimised themselves by being the greatest Military power on the planet. So, it is their belief that Might is Right. If on the other hand, all of Europe including Britain, Russia, China and South America were opposed to them, they might have to pack up their terror campaign in Syria. Unfortunately, that ain’t the way life on this planet is. Take a look at the Presidential Election in Honduras, with almost 60% of the ballots counted Hernandes was trailing Nasralla by 5%, then we have almost a 2 week delay and hey presto Hernandes wins by 1.5%. Which, meant that Hernandes won 26% to Nasralla’s 17% of the remaining vote; And of course Uncle Sam claims it is a triumph for Democracy. Yet Nicholas Maduro’s victory in Venezuela was decried as a sham even though UN observers claimed it was one of the best, open and transparent democratic election procedures in the western world…..

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

Hernandes is a narco dictator imposed by the corruption by the US of paying many bribes in that Fraudulent election. Venezuela had a clean election in comparison to the US fraud, Crimea was clean but the Kiev only election was rife from fraud as soon as it was announced US interfered in every aspect along with France, UK and Germany , the western world like this interfering in elections is bad.

Redadmiral

Beginning with the fascist overthrow of the democratically elected president, sponsored by Yankee NGOs, Soros, Buffet et al.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

The west has always been full of fascist leaders we just don’t like to acknowledge it. Problem with any NGO is for the most part they are just propaganda wings of the Govt spewing their nonsense. Soros interferes in just as many nations politics as the US does his are more about profit for himself and less bout social problems , more to social engineering. Buffet likes to use his money to manipulate like Soros does anything that hurts their bottom line is bad for his business. Just gave you names of Fascist corporatists as they are the same thing line the pockets of the oligarches , think I am wrong do some research.

People like that are generally greedy and have few or no morales, just Good sense knowledge. You can have your fantasies about me being a leftist which is far from the truth just realist.

John Mason

Those people do what they do because they feel safe, take that safe feeling element away then they all retreat into their holes. Only way to stop them.

Redadmiral

I don’t know what you are talking about. “Just gave you names of fascist corporatists……………………..” What names did you give me? And where did you ever get the idea that I have fantasies about you being a leftist? You strike me as a bit of a gobshite, a well meaning gobshite but none the less a gobshite.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

The description of Fascist Corporatist is just an apt description of the financial system being used, sure isn’t communist. We can talk about names of the leaders but those are already common knowledge as the others were. My apologies if you assumed it was directed at you as it is a generalization left at the end of a comment at times.

Well at least I didn’t call you names like gobshite when I was only facking, and not offensive about your comments.

Redadmiral

If you reply to me then you should direct your reply to me. If, however, you are making a general reply then you should use the general comment box, then; people such as myself will not feel the necessity to reply to your word salads. The reason I referred to you as a “gobshite”, is: “You can have your fantasies about me being a leftist”. I deal with reality, I do not fantasise about the gobbledegook put into the public domain by politically confused dunces. What scrambled train of thought fused this string of words into a “sentence”? “The description of Fascist Corporatist is just an apt description of the financial system being used, sure isn’t communist.” Here you confuse ideologies, Fascist Corporatist with Communist, these political systems are at opposed ends of the political spectrum,. This would be similar to confusing Ultra-violet light with Infra-red light

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

Fascism, communism , corporatism are all on the same political spectrum to confuse them as anything different is like riding around with one shoe while the other 3 are off. Never confuse them as left or right sides of politics all we have is Socialism with both ends of that spectrum. When this world adopts another spectrum of politics everyone will know the difference. What your confusing is just the colors of Ultra Violet.

Langaniso Mhlobo

Thank you.

Pave Way IV

Spineless CENTCOM traitors now starting to hide behind the skirts of their imaginary ‘US-led coalition’, as if this isn’t a totally US-initiated, US-funded and US-run scheme. There *IS* no US-led coalition except in the fantasy cobbled together by CENTCOM’s amateurish PsyOps directed at the American people.

Calling ex-jihadis along the Euphrates ‘border guards’ isn’t going to stop SAA tanks from rolling over their dead terrorist asses on the future SAA campaign to retake Syria’s stolen Omar Oilfields. All in good time. Until then, we just have to suffer with endless fake CENTCOM reports of ISIS attacking SDF along the Euphrates.

Joe

The Kurds recruits just needed a job. When time to face ASSAD’s forces with his allies they will fd up and go home.

There is just no way Assad and allies allow it as it would be worse that the creation of Israel for all parties.

Iran and Turkey especially will never allow it .

Langaniso Mhlobo

Today’s USA train traitors tomorrow’s defectors that’s the game plan.

Langaniso Mhlobo

We need arm’s embargo against USA,Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

Ivan Freely

Arm’s embargo only works for those that don’t make their own weapons. The Saudis will feel the pain the most and they don’t make anything useful, followed by Turkey. The US makes the most, not all, themselves. The US would be negatively affected but it shouldn’t be as bad as the Saudis.

Josh

Miraculous conversion of evacuated commanders plus working out a deal with their remaining assets along the Turkish border to keep a foothold in both Syria and Iraq. Use of smuggling routes/networks for overland supply lines perhaps. Hoping to support a guerilla war in contested territory from what they hope will be accepted and uncotested region. If I were the bad guy, that’s what I would be aiming for with moves such as these.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

This is the actual game they are playing and one thing is Turkey is on the chopping block and they are too stupid to realize it and Turks already call Erdogan for losing territory. What will happen when the US starts aiding in creating this Kurdistan as this is their full intention. Iraq wants the US to leave so that is why many are up in arms there, they know the US is planning the long term partitioning of Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran. They will use this as rearguard base to their Forward AO in Iraq and attack Iran on a false flag op declaring that Iran is sending Terrorists into their area and attacking the bases. Then at the same time initiate terrorist attacks on Russia to keep them distracted. So they can’t bring to bear enough forces in the theater, while using their rebranded terrorist forces again to disrupt the region.

Just my guess that’s all.

Redadmiral

Not to far off the mark TCW. Erdogan is playing a very dangerous role at the moment, trying to keep all options open. Yanks realise Gullen can give them everything, should they wash their hands like PP, Erdogan will have his head on a spike before his feet touch Turkish soil. However, should they take Erdogan out by whatever means Gullen will give them everything including Turkish Kurdistan.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

Well could have added more to that but it would have been obvious that Gulen was part of it. There is more going on in little subplots but need to stay with partition side. Legally Erdogan/Gulen can’t give the partition in the region nor can France so those are both moot, and neither can they use an old claim by a former governor as all those things created were ceded all control to Damascus.

The thing is Iran will hand the names of those involved again saving Turkey’s bacon from an almost civil war again. This will be another round robin of the same old same old, this time a US ambassador will be killed in a false flag event is the only difference.

Redadmiral

Just talking about Turkish Kurdistan, Erdogan will keep it at all costs and might even be inclined to help smash up YPG forces, nka “SDF”. Yanks I am inclined to believe would prefer to carve out the New Kurdish State, which will lead directly to war with Iran, which we are all aware is a high priority on their must do list. An agreement made almost 100 years ago is worthless when compared to Yankee Might today. Propaganda will sell the unification of Kurdistan and vilify those opposed to it. If Erdogan fails to smarten up very soon he will be buried and the largest part of Kurdistan will cede from a Turkey ruled by Gullen, and combine with the YPG annexed Syria. Iraqi Kurdistan will also cede from Iraq, now all of a sudden there is a new country armed to the teeth with Yankee support and equipment galore. Israel will of course be supplying tech support. It may not be the chosen path, but it is a highway to keep Hell well fuelled for the foreseeable future…..

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

Well Kurdistan won’t exist , many within Turkey can’t Stand PKK/YPG /PJAK/Peshmerge terrorists and the enforcement of an agreement would be still excepted today. Why would anyone refuse it since none of the parties broke the agreement , we are not talking any ABM treaty which the US walked away from. That has been the new nightmare the failure of that treaty, Peace treaties are carved in stone and Gulen has no chance as many Turks see him more as a catalyst for more problems than Erdogan.

Iraqi Kurds never ever had any region historically and that is just fact and forcing all these culturally different people together will erode each separate identity. No country in the world would want to force out any people from their ancestral homes, we have enough guilt over that already.

You can stop the with the idea of annexation as i would be surrounded and without any means of support. Iraq will ask the US and many others to leave soon so it is looking as a no go there. Syria and Russia are asking the US to leave and continued actions look like that the US is pushing for a real World War and that is a no go for the rest of the west as we know it’s unwinnable.

The path is easy and the US has already known it bit off more than it can chew public opinion is steadily growing against it. Western Nations are backing away, the US is no longer a super power of import anymore. The other super powers are surpassing it in political and economic control.The US can come crashing down and no real way to continue a war. The end game has arrived just the US hasn’t learned it yet.

Redadmiral

Yanks like to smoke Cuban cigars although they are illegal to buy or import into the USA. However, all those Zionist cocksuckers in AIPAC love to blow the exhaust smoke from these Cigars up the Arseholes of the MIC who believe their own lies along with those of aipac. That is, that a nuclear war is winnable because at this moment in time Yankee military superiority gives them “full spectrum dominance”. So, the situation as far as I can understand it is you have arrogant, ignorant morons; telling other arrogant, ignorant morons, that they are the smartest people on the planet and the all believe it. What happens next; is in the lap of the……….

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

They forget there are variables within their plans which is never accounted for except with the old + or – which at times will be nowhere they expected it to be. This just an excuse to cover getting it wrong like here in Syria, truth is they knew it was going to be a long drawn out situation. This benefits the bankers and the arms industries to pay the bankers as they all need to make huge mounts of money to smoke their cigars. Schmedley Butler said all wars are bankers wars and this is definitely benefiting them. The moron will always think what they are is doing it the best interest of themselves and no one else.

EL ZORRO

“US-LED COALITION FORMING 30,000-STRONG FORCE TO CONTROL SYRIAN BORDER”…TRANSLATION…UNITED STATED DEEP STATE, FORMING A BRIGADE OF 30,000 STRONG FORCE OF INTERNATIONAL MERCENARY TERRORISTS TO CONTINUE THEIR CRIMINAL ILLEGAL INVASION OF THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF SYRIA.

alejoeisabel

Does anyone have any doubts that 911 was a deep state false flag operation.

Terra Cotta Woolpuller

Many people think it was the MOSSAD who did it since many of their signature actions were involved.

BL

(((Deep state))) operation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qFa9_JjlYc

MichaH

I doubt it heavily, but let us agree about that we do not need to make up now this discussion.

EL ZORRO

“The US-led coalition is currently recruiting and training new fighters to form the other half of the force”…TRANSLATION…The UNITED STATES DEEP STATE INTERNATIONAL MERCENARY TERRORISTS, is currently recruiting and re-training disbanded I.S.I.S MERCENARY TERRORISTS, to form a new BRIGADE TO CONTINUE THE ILEGAL INVASION OF THE SOVEREIGN NATION OF SYRIA AND CONTINUE THE SLAUGHTERED AND GENOCIDE OF SYRIAN PEOPLE.

RichardD

Hopefully this is in the works to protect Syrian government coalition forces restoring government administration east of the river from air strikes:

http://www.ausairpower.net/PVO-S/Panorama-TsM-SADCP-1S.jpg

RichardD

– Russia to start 5th-generation fighter jet production in Far East in 2018 –

http://tass.com/defense/980675

SU-57s:

https://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/russian-pak-fa-tandem-flight-wikimedia-commons-e1502633882107.jpg

RichardD

– Russia’s S-500 Missile System Second to None –

https://sputniknews.com/military/201704091052466018-russia-prometey-missile-system-air-defense/

S-500:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K6wSml33Qgc/maxresdefault.jpg

John Whitehot

this is a s-300v, stop spamming

RichardD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6wSml33Qgc

John Whitehot

it’s a darned s-300v with the two different missile types and who made the vid doesn’t even know what she’s talking about

RichardD

Yes, it looks like a variant of the S-300 system:

– S-300VM –

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300VM

RichardD

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7c662b8ff8f616240d1f82603a2bae223d960d1b2f1270447a5b20c5e5f85965.png

John Whitehot

it’s a variant, or rather the modernized version of the s-300v, which is a different system from the s-300p and s-300f, in particular the one specialized to intercept ballistic missiles.

RichardD

Only a small percentage of the Israeli attacks on Syria that I’ve read reports on have Israeli aircraft actually entering Syrian airspace. Whatever the Russians and Syrians have in terms of aircraft and IAD equipment is keeping both the Israelis and US coalition out of airspace over government controlled areas. And with rare exception, areas that the government is advancing into.

The big question is what’s going to happen once the areas west of the river are cleared of regime change elements and the government turns it’s attention to restoring government administration east of the river using freed up ground and air assets. Hopefully this will occur peacefully. But the SDF statements are contrary to a peaceful resolution unless they change their position. When faced with a substantial and credible military advance into SDF areas, to, if necessary, forcibly restore government control over these areas.

RichardD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keCEf5E9TDc

RichardD

What is this? It looks like a tracked S-500: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18236d59092a84ce4b0a194f11dc5252b2a8e0dafd277428172d678bcf0f0e50.png

wwinsti

Now, you know good and well that there are no publicity available pics of the s500 prototype.

RichardD

– The First Image of New Russian Air Defense Systems S-500 –

http://defence-blog.com/news/the-first-image-of-new-russian-air-defense-systems-s-500.html

wwinsti

Paintings!? Well, I get to link to s500 models then. This is NOT an s300vm:

http://defence-blog.com/news/large-scale-model-of-new-russian-s-500-prometheus-missile-system-go-on-display.html

RichardD

https://www.google.com/search?q=Russian+S-500+pictures&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS704US704&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwie0L6RhtnYAhUS_mMKHU-_DcYQ_AUICygC&biw=853&bih=446

Jeff Lewin

The Far East would certainly be a more secure setting for this industry than western Russia.

RichardD

Why is that?

Jeff Lewin

The Russian Far East is less likely to get hit by any US/NATO weapons than western Russia in any prospective conflict.

Mountains

Overrated and they barely work.

BlueInGreen

You need to go away.

Mountains

It’s outdated systems and has failure in it’s system regarding it’s defense capability have been reported

RichardD

Mountain of lies.

RichardD

That’s not true, 99.9% of Syrian government coalition operations have been air strike free because of Russian air cover, which includes IAD.

Jeff Lewin

One factor to consider in this context is that, so far, Russians have not deployed aircraft to this theater in numbers sufficient to counter the joint Coalition deployment.

There is little reason to anticipate any changes in this regard.

Russia is also confronting NATO pressures on its western border, with NATO holding the advantage in aircraft. While the latest Russian fighter aircraft have tactical, and other, advantages over their NATO counterparts, the Russians still need a large deployment of aircraft in place to defend their home territory.

RichardD

Syria isn’t a very large airspace to have to secure. The Russians have the spare aircraft and IAD equipment to do it without weakening their domestic security. And they have additional air assets going into Egypt. So the Jews will think twice before causing problems.

Jeff Lewin

Russia initiated positive relations with Kurds in Turkey during the 70s. Notwithstanding their alliance with Syria, they seem to be initiating similar policies towards the Syrian Kurds, and now go as far as sending ground forces to defend Kurdish front lines from invading Turks.

RichardD

A large percentage of the Kurds are not Syrian citizens under Syrian law and are originally from Turkey, or their ancestors entered Syria illegally from Turkey. Even with that, Kurds are a majority in only a small percentage of northern Syria east of the river. 90% of that area has a non Kurdish majority. Which I’m sure that the Russians recognize.

Given the choice between setting up a Jew world order vassal state east of the river that will do nothing but cause regional problems for decades or longer into the future. And maintaining Syrian territorial integrity. The Russians will probably choose the latter and provide air cover on an as needed basis east of the river as they’ve done west of the river.

In addition to maintaining Syrian territorial integrity, stopping terrorism in Syria is also a Russian goal. It’s well known that the Kurds are working closely with the state sponsors of terrorism being used against Syria in their secession bid. Setting up a Kurdish government would perpetuate that. Which is why it’s not a good idea. The SDF was the lesser of two evils as the Syrian government coalition pushed east. Because they were less aggressive towards it than some of the other regime change elements like Isis. Now that they’re being cleared out, that leaves more resources, including air assets, to resolve the SDF secession attempt.

Jeff Lewin

Not sure whether you are acquainted with Russian-American analyst Andrew Korybko, host of “Context Countdown,” and “Trendstorm” on Sputnik International.

While not a prophet, his “Hybrid Wars: The Indirect Adaptive Approach To Regime Change” has been a very informed assessment of the current trends in military and geopolitical affairs.

Last year, Korybko authored some articles in which he expressed skepticism regarding any prospects that Putin’s Administration would directly engage Coalition forces in Syria. Regrettably, at this stage, I am still trying to retrieve the related web links.

RichardD

The Russians have been directly engaging the US coalition forces since they got there. If they hadn’t been, the Syrian government coalition would have gotten hit with a lot more airstrikes under various pretexts than they have. The airspace over government held areas has been closed to US and Israeli aircraft for a while now:

– US backs down as Russia targets US aircraft in Syria –

http://theduran.com/us-backs-down-russia-targets-us-aircraft-syria/ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7749729e6186e4c3d16d55bc639528f3c89c1201a02ac75415605653c555fffb.png

Jeff Lewin

I hope this works out great.

I just do not want to be overly optimistic.

I do not believe President Putin will ever willingly yield to the kinds of heinous compromises, or pressure, that his predecessor, Medvedev, gave in to in Syria and Libya.

RichardD

Putin was Prime Minister at the time. I don’t know what the decision making process was.

Jeff Lewin

He was when the Libyan op went down in 2014, I regret to say.

When the proxy insurgency broke out in Syria, it was the spring of 2011, and Medvedev was the Russian President. I always remember, because Syria had previously defended Lebanon from Zio incursions, and the Lebanese had discovered natural gas offshore, beneath their waters the previous summer.

Now that the SAA is tied up fighting their proxies, the Zios have been robbing the Lebanese’s natural gas.

Jeff Lewin

The situation in Russia, is not however, as ideal as some pro-Russian outsiders believe:

Israel and Russia are NOT on the verge of war. They are allies! http://theduran.com/israel-russia-not-verge-war-allies/

RichardD

I wouldn’t call Russia and Israel allies. The US and Israel are allies, of a sort. The Russians are tracking, and in some instances probably targeting, Israeli aircraft in and near Syria. Russia has gotten rid of most of it’s Jews. The US is the most Jew infested nation on the planet at this time. Much to the detriment of it’s people and humanity.

Jeff Lewin

[2] Reference:

Does anyone still seriously think that Russia and Israel aren’t allies http://theduran.com/does-anyone-still-seriously-think-that-russia-and-israel-arent-allies/

RichardD

I don’t.

Dejudification in Europe, the near east, and North Africa 1946 to 2010:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Europe_Jewish_%25_change_1945_2010.png/220px-Europe_Jewish_%25_change_1945_2010.png

Jeff Lewin

I think most Jews who left Russia & the former Eastern Bloc, from the 90s, to the present, were economic refugees.

This is not a personal issue for me. My ancestors on the Lewin side were Welsh.

Jeff Lewin

Robert Faurisson would be censored in Russia and most European countries as a “holocaust denier,” but it is insightful that he denonuced Jewish organizations in Western Europe for campaigning to exclude Jews from censuses after WWII (c.f., “The Lies of Ulysses”).

RichardD

Jews are evil, their pedophile rape cult that rapes 1,000 of their cult babies every week should be outlawed. Holocaust denial laws are absurd and are there to cover up Jew crime and evil. The evil Jews are trying to have their swamp slaves pass “antisemitism” laws in the US.

I agree with the biblical teachings of Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Jesus Christ and many others to the present day that Judaism is Satanic.

My view as a contactee involved in off planet political negotiations is that until we resolve the Jew infestation that plagues our planet. Is that at best, we’ll continue to suffer retarded development. And at worst that this civilization will be destroyed as have many others throughout the universe. Including purportedly on this planet in the past, and on what was a planet and is now the asteroid belt on the other side of Mars.

Jeff Lewin

I think many isralies still have Russian citizenship. This has had an effect on Russia’s Middle Eastern policies, because Russia still has a concern for citizens living abroad (moreso that the US State Department Re: US citizens).

RichardD

From the article that you linked to:

“There is no scenario, whatsoever, that Russia will directly oppose Israel in Syria”

That wouldn’t be my take. If Israel attacks Russian assets. They should expect a response.

Jeff Lewin

This is true, but so far, the Zios are not interested in targeting the Russians. They are only going after the IRGC, Hezbollah, and Syrian targets.

At this stage, Syria needs to conserve its military assets as much as possible, inasmuch as much equipment and manpower has been lost in this war. In 2014, the SAA’s manpower was down to barely 35% of its 2009 strength (during the early 90s, under Prez Hafez Al-Assad, it was one of the largest armies in the world).

Jeff Lewin

Anon. Fmr Voice of Russian Internation al employee on US-UK intel penetration of Russia:

The Truth about VOR, 03.09.14 https://pastebin.com/W3vynnBv

Jeff Lewin

Fmr. Host of Voice of Russia International’s “One on One” on western infiltration of Russia:

John Robles on Voice of Russia, CIA, Russia, ZIonists, Ukraine, Russia and Snowden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA_BypQ_wUQ

Jeff Lewin

Russia’s economic woes were serious even before sanctions, however, and it would be difficult to predict how much the Kremlin would compromise for better access to European, or to US, markets.

RichardD

Public debt percent gdp world map

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Public_debt_percent_gdp_world_map_%282007%29.svg/2000px-Public_debt_percent_gdp_world_map_%282007%29.svg.png

Jeff Lewin

Tried to reply, Southfront has been censoring all my replies/comments.

@disqus_hXrQz1OKSR

RichardD

Why would they do that?

RichardD

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cbe0cc0152cea72631437bf9e01c1df71de9bb6fe004db65b764ecd695e52176.png

RichardD

Almost no debt and $350 billion in cash in the bank for an economy the size of Russia is a well run economy.

Jeff Lewin

In the Caucasus, Russia is selling billions of $$ worth of weapons to the Azeris, notwithstanding Azerbiajan’s recent attack against Armenia. Both Armenia and Russia are members of the CSTO alliance, while Azerbaijan is not.

Jeff Lewin

The Russians have also proposed a “federalization” plan for Syria at previous negotiations in Astana, which would facilitate greater autonomy for Syrian Kurds.

RichardD

“the Syrian government’s delegation did not accept the agreement, saying it would split the country, and Damascus would not agree to start a dialogue about an autonomous administration.”

– Syria rejects Russian proposal for Kurdish federation –

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/10/turkey-russia-mediates-between-kurds-and-assad.html

Jeff Lewin

I don’t care for the Kurdish bid to seize transportation routes, control of communities, and resources in areas where they are a minority. I am sure patriotic Syrians are even more firmly opposed to this, but with Coalition aviation backing the Kurds, it is doubtful that Russia would support offensive operations against the SDF, and the Syrian forces do not have the capability of countering Coalition aviation without outside help.

RichardD

Kurdish majority areas in Syria:

https://i0.wp.com/sahipkiran.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Kurdish-Majority-areas-in-Syria-.jpg?resize=634%2C447

Jeff Lewin

Russia was not remarkably helpful when Coalition aircraft bombarded the SAA in Deir Ezzor for over an hour in 2016.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/sixty-two-dead-100-wounded-as-us-bombs-syrian-army-near-deir-ez-zor-bombing-was-in-support-of-isis-daesh-militia/5546787

RichardD

Like I said earlier 99.9% of Syrian government coalition operations have been conducted free of US coalition air strikes. So whatever the Russians have in theater, it’s obviously getting the job done. The Turks shot down a Russian aircraft, that doesn’t mean that Russia is unwilling to confront the Turks.

Jeff Lewin

In the early days of the Russian expedition, they conceded an agreement with the Coalition to not arm aircraft with air to air missiles.

For obvious reasons, that deal went out the window after the Turks shot down their plane.

Jeff Lewin

Thanks for the map, it really puts things in persepctive.

Solomon Krupacek

Thanks, Putin!

Astar Roth

You just keep your cowardly uncanny dirty fuccked up mouth shut, okay? Good!

Solomon Krupacek

continue the discussing with yourself. it is very interesting :DDDDD

Astar Roth

You’re so stupid that you even don’t know when someone is talking to you.

You can call me Al

hahahah – you are going to have our bollocks blown off – you sad traitorous whores.

Daniel

That will be a new loan at the federal reserve for the American taxpayers to pay for this.

VGA

You know, with all these money that they are paying in salaries in the Middle East and for all the equipment the islamists are using, USA could have public healthcare for its citizens lmao

Astar Roth

This won’t save salafists and Israeli interests in Syria. First of all, America will loose onw of key partners in m. e. and that’s Turkey. Turks ain’t gonna like idea that Kurds have their army and control if any part of Syria. You blow it this time guys.

Jeff Lewin

The SAA would still have the advantage in manpower if it became necessary to confront the planned 30,000-strong coalition force. Syria’s main disadvantage versus the Coalition is in aircraft.

Syria does not have the means to counter Coalition air power by itself, and there is, otherwise, no guarantee that Russian aircraft would intervene directly in the event of a theater scale conflict between Syria and the Coalition.

la Cariatide

it will be time for Russia to fully pay back the military bases Syria granted to Russia for one century. of course, Russia has already helped Syria against moderated terrorists, but soon Syria will face pkk-terrorists openly supported by the usofa and nato..

Jeff Lewin

This would be difficult for the Russians to manage. While Russian aircraft have technical & tactical advantages over their NATO counterparts, the Coalition still has a numerical advantage in aircraft in the Middle Eastern theater, and NATO still has a great numerical advantage in aircraft in Europe.

These circumstances mean that Syria cannot rely on Russian air support in the event of a theater scale conflict with the Coalition, and the Syrian Arab Air Force cannot, otherwise, counter the Coalition aircraft by themselves.

Jeff Lewin

In the Middle East, conventional surface-to-surface missiles have become an “asymmetrical” deterrent for poorer countries threatened by richer ones, and kind of a poor countries’ substitute for some of the functions of aircraft..

First Iran built up it’s missile deterrent, then Hezbollah did.

As of 2017, the regular Lebanese military is arming itself with a large conventional surface-to-surface missile deterrent.

Jeff Lewin

Reconsideration: While the SDF occupation of large areas of Syria is a not a positive development, the still-ongoing terrorist activity in the region makes border security an important priority.

Hopefully, this new force will only be guarding borders, rather than be exploited as a foil against the Syrian armed forces.

Jeff Lewin

While I would not consider it prudent on a strategic level, there is reason to suspect that the present Administration in Washington might be considering whether, or not, they should burn their bridges with the Turks.

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