US-Led Coalition May Withdraw From Al-Tanaf Base Under Deal With Russia – Reports

US has one power on its side. They will destroy the complete world economic and if need they will Nuke all together with Israel . No other country is ready to destroy our planet for interest of few ppl.

Even back then the west keep intervened whenever the tide turned against them. The worst under LBJ where they ready up to use nuclear to stop egyptian counterattack.

LBJ is the guy who bankrupted America. He spent so much money bombing Vietnam that he had to sell Americas gold reserves to prop up the US dollar. By the time Nixon got in, the gold was gone, forcing him to abandon the gold standard. The price of gold just kept climbing, until the US introduced paper gold trades, which allows them to effectively control the price of gold. If you extrapolate the number of US dollars in circulation to gold then and now, gold should be worth 35 grand an ounce. The US just keeps printing dollars, and because everybody wants a good exchange rate, they also print. The US dollar is the mother of all bubbles, when it blows all the other currency bubbles burst. Why do you think Russia China, and quite a few other countries are buying gold? It’s the biggest short ever.

Good post. Everyone should be accumulating as much gold and silver as they can afford to hedge against the impending global financial implosion. Hard assets are also good. All fiat is dept. All fiat is a dead man walking.

Why do you think Russia China, and quite a few other countries are buying gold?

Gold is also very important component of advanced weapons. Each plane contains at least 10 kg of gold. Today electronics is everywhere in the army. Gold is also necessary raw material for these equipments.

What battled hardened army? You mean the small Tiger Forces , Hezbollah and Iranian militias? They’ve been the ones doing most of the fighting.

True, to get Golan back you need to have 5 Tiger group ready, and not only man power, Tanks, plane, drone… Hezbolah and Irgc are not Syria army and it would mean a lot conflict where Syria would only lose. This. Must be done alone

I guess that’s why his name is potcracker ?

Rather like Bibi Netanyahu ;)..

Well Hillary and Bibi hatched from the same egg.

together with a rattlesnake.

Clinton said that USA have created Al Qaeda. I say the same. So, I’m Clinton. XD.

Yes. Funny part is that they even say it. Only Assad and Russia didn’t see it. XD.

A Dudley Do-right type would not stand a chance against the evil forces of the USA and Israel, you need a Riddick type to kill these monsters.

anyone’s better than Killary.

“as Putin was in DRESDEN and Yeltsin asked him to came to St.Petersburg, he LEFT his agents 9 to fall 8into the hands of the GERMAN CIA ( the BND).”(c)

Siegfried, your blatant lies show how little you know and how pathetic your propaganda is :) Yeltsin asked him to come to St.Petersburg from Germany where Putin left his agents? Lol :)

I have found a strong consensus of opinion expressed in articles that speak on Russian support of Syria as a long standing ally. The consensus is that there are two primary reasons Russia supports Syria (1) Syria’s strategic position in the Middle East and that the naval base is truly warm water and (2) Russia takes the long view in regard to alliances seeing it as a repetitive game in Game Theory parlance. That is, if you screw your allies, it will bite you in the ass in future. If alliances are no longer beneficial to one party or the other, or both, then the alliance is ended, rather then pretending the alliance is on and and backstabbing, which the US is certainly building expertise in.

The US acts by its own rules because she thinks she can get away with it. This has worked to a degree in the past but the cracks are starting to show.

I am a supporter of Russia’s right to resist American domination, but look at Russia’s actions. First killing the terrorists in Syria, is a better option than waiting for them to reach Russia. Second, you are right about a port in the Med, but it’s not that big a deal.

The main issue for Russia, is the ability to sell its oil and gas, and the US has been trying to shut Russia out of the market. The US planned to build a gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe via Iraq and Syria. They already control Iraq, so if they gain control of Syria, they have their pipeline. Russia has secured the west of Syria, because it blocks the American pipeline. The US has grabbed east Syria, so it can stop the proposed Iranian pipeline to Europe. So the damsel these 2 countries are fighting over is Europe. Russia has made it clear to Europe, that if you submit to American pressure, you will pay a high price for energy, because the Qatar pipeline just ain’t gonna happen.

The idea that young Russia should defend Syria, because they are mates, just doesn’t cut it when you are sending Russian troops into harms way.

All wars are about money, all the other BS is about convincing young men to die for bankers.

Yes you are right Russia has self interest driving her actions in Syria but Russia requires Syria’s permission to have military bases and assets in Syria in order to kill the terrorists before they end up in Russia to cause problems. That means Syria’s interests need to be considered as well. Fortunately, in this case their interests are closely aligned when it comes to eradicating terrorists. This includes re-establishing Syrian control over jihadist controlled territory to deny them base of operations.

Interestingly, I have been evaluating possible Putin accomadations that may serve Russia’s interests while not in Syria’s interests. So I intuitively think closely along the lines of what you say that alliances are pragmatic arrangements although I do not think US approach to alliance partners is smart as the US will become friendless and will stay that way.

Henry Kissinger once said that “America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests” That’s why the US often double crosses its friends, it’s not personal, just business.

Actually it was Churchill but that is not important. The saying is what is important and it regulates all geopolitics.

America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests.

Henry Kissinger: The White House Years, quoted from Dinesh D’Souza: What’s so great about America. This echoes Lord Palmerston’s words: “We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual”.

Palmerston, not Churchill.

Thank you Sinbad. I read it was Churchill but obviously he only copied Palmerston!

That pipeline was announced by Qatar before they got an opinion about it from the Saudis. Their proposed route was to run overland thru Saudi Arabia, Iraq then thru Syria. The Saudi’s told them to run it under the gulf instead to Iraq. Qatar was too cheap to do that so cancelled the project without conducting engineering studies to see how much that would cost.

Well that;s the way the proposed Iran pipeline is going. You really think the Saudis would tell Qatar to build a pipeline through Shia Iraq, and have Shia’s earn transit fees?

And the Saudis don’t have an opinion when their master the USA speaks.

Exactly, the Americans only respect power, you can’t bluff, you have to kill them.

Oh, I didn’t realize you joking all along. No sane person would actually person would believe what you’re saying and no propagandist would expect anyone to believe it for a moment.

BUT, the US has actually documented a strategy of destroying Russia with nuclear weapons soon after 1945 and at intervals since then when ‘1st Strike’ strategies were discussed. Surrounding Russia and China with missiles is all part of that strategy that has now been made obsolete by the new Russian and Chinese ‘Glider Missiles’.

Was that ‘sane’ ?

Well there was the other possibility that I left out earlier, that you’re affiliated with some sort of terror organization.

Such as as who Smaug ? Mossad, the US Military ?

Or your fishing club?

Sources of your fake story?

My girlfriend is from Subic Bay, FYI, 99% of Filipinos love Americans!

So you just automatically believe the number from the highest estimates, inflated 5 fold, gotcha. We all know vested interests have a motivation to inflate numbers (similar to how Lancet inflated numbers based on dubious methodology when it came to Iraq).

Also, much of those 200,000 or so were indirect casualties as a result of famine. Not quite “slaughter”. It also definitely strikes me as a bit absurd to suggest that filipino casualties reached 50% of the level of Japanese casualties in WW2.

Yes famine, even back then the US used to starve the opponent, just like the US did in Iraq and now Yemen. Face it, the USA is a barbaric enemy, nukes germ warfare killing children, no act is too low for the USA.

What about you?

These numbers refer to the initial stages of US rule in the Philippines which was shameful. The insurgency had already brought the Spanish colonialist masters to there knees when the US intervened as ‘liberators’ or so thought the insurgents. The insurgents and the US completed the job of expelling the Spanish in 1898 but the US then declared themselves the new masters under the quaint title ‘Benevolent Assimilation Proclamation’. The Philippine population were savages that needed to be assimilated into civilized ways, which was the common justification for colonization since the actual purpose of to pillage and plunder was, well, rather uncivilized to say.

Well the US paid a price for this, but so did the Philippine population. The US though did change policies that started the road to independence. Importantly the US kept its word in granting increasing autonomy until independence. When McArthur kept his word and returned to liberate the Philipines from brutal Japanese occupation, followed closely by granting full independence, the Philipines became a close ally of the US so there is truth that the US is admired.

As for ISIS, I believe the insurgency is essentially natives swearing to ISIS but also the US has flown in ‘advisors’ including ISIS members from Syria. However, the numbers are small.

The US has been flying key ISIS people out of Syria. How do you think ISIS fighters got from Syria to the Philippines? It couldn’t possibly have been on a flight from Incirlik to Clarke air base, could it?

sigh…

Let me ask you something. Do you know anything about the Philippines? It’s demographics, its history? The southern Philippines has had a simmering separatist Islamist insurgency for much of the past century. It is not that different from Salafist headchoppers who are dispersed within the insurgency in Dagestan/Chechnya in Russia, or separatists in Xinjiang province in China, or Boko Haram in northern Nigeria. Of course there are some key differences between all these groups. But the point is, some of the most disenchanted and radical groups among these insurgencies saw the rise of ISIS and decided to pledge allegiance to it.

There was no flying of “key ISIS people” out of Syria into the Philippines.

How can you even ask something as stupid “how do you think ISIS fighters from Syria to Philippines”?

The majority of ISIS fighters who are affiliated with and pledged allegiance to ISIS in the Philippines have never even been in Iraq or Syria.

And out of the ones that did… gee I don’t know… in a world of porous borders, and very weak national security apparatus, as well as anonymity (It’s not as if the Filipino government has some comprehensive checklist of every verifiable jihadist who went abroad to fight for the “caliphate”)… it is really isn’t that difficult to smuggle yourself back and forth between 3rd world shitholes on the one hand and warzones on the brink of anarchy on the other hand.

ISIS cant’ take over Egypt but can take over Iraq, then Syria and resist an international coalition !!! XD.

Iraq was barely recovering from over a decade of war, and had a large/disenchanted Sunni population and sectarian tensions under al-Maliki, so many in the military abandoned their weapons and positions.

Secondly, it doesn’t look like they’ve been particularly effective at “resisting” the international coalition.

Come the fuck on. I am absolutely certain you are smarter than this. I almost 90% certain that you are actually trolling and provoking people… You’re like a trickster figure and a provocateur in the Southfront community and I bet you’re secretly laughing when someone rages at you.

I know that feeling too :)

I wonder who invaded Iraq to create sectarian tensions and benefit from that. XD.

Fucking clueless idealistic retards who have no clue what the fuck they’re doing, thats who.

Not omnipotent Jewish NWO overlords supposedly hiding in the shadows and running the entire world.

and FUCK OFF with your “XD” bullshit. If I was your dentist, I’d pull every one of your fucking teeth out.

netanyahu said that without Saddam, the middle east will be more peaceful or a stupid shit like this. XD.

DOn’t you understand that you can kill yourslef because you have 0% chance to make change what I think especially with such retarded arguments. XD.

And NEtanyahu is a piece of shit and 100% wrong. That doesn’t mean Abu Bakr is a Mossad agent or some shit like that.

Of course it means that. USA invaded Iraq and then create a sectarian conflict to create ISIS to invade and occupy Syria.

QED.

No, it is not QED. Something doesn’t automatically become true or demonstrable simply because you think it fits some simplistic narrative.

I prove. That’s why you are low level and can’t argue.

QED.

They are not idealistic, they are people with an uncontrollable lust for wealth and power.

wrong. broad generlization not particularly based in reality. To some degree this is true, but it isn’t the whole story. Naive idealism is definitely a part of it.

Correct. Initial formation of ISIS was with US (CIA) support, that is wealth and power in the region. But as ISIS grew, ideology increasingly was used in recruitment as it was ‘cheap’, but in the long run would prove very costly. The increasing proportion of ideological driven jihadists within ISIS created a problem for the US masters – ISIS would have become harder to control for the US as a consequence of its growth in numbers and geographic reach regardless, but jihadists’ ideology made it much worse as ideology was not compatible with US control (putting it mildly). This would certainly explain the rise of the Kurds as they proved to be effective in dealing with ISIS disobedience.

You are both correct now kiss and make up.

ISIS clearly had US support in funding, weapons and training, this is well documented. However, for the US, ISIS has proved more unruly then their prior Frankenstein creation, Al Qaeda – and we know how well that worked out. I doubt the ISIS cells operating in Sinai are following US (or anyone) orders. In Syria, ISIS is a dubious ally to the US and this assessment is consistent with the fact that real fights between ISIS and US backed forces occur far to often to be outlier groups.

Lastly, ISIS was a formidible fighting force, at least in the beginning. It took considerable effort in time and resources, including direct Russian intervention, to degrade ISIS to the point of near destruction. It was no cakewalk.

Well ISIS started in Iraq, under the command of General Petraeus, and were successful for a while. It might work, but would depend on US/Israel support.

50% chance he will recover SDF territory. Probably close to zero for the Golan heights, as that has been occupied by Israel well before the current Syrian crisis started. The only realistic path to recovering the Golan heights would be some sort of negotiated agreement similar to how Israel gave back the Sinai to Egypt.

In 1973, when Egypt attacked Israel to recover the Sinai, we learnt that israel can be defeat militarily especially with anti-aircraft missiles. israeli could not get close to the borders with their planes.

So, people who tell me that S-300 and S-400 are useless are a joke. Give good weapons to Syria and Syria can recover Golan height in weeks or days.

Extremely naive. S-300 and S-400 may be useful for curtailing aggression into Syrian territory. They would be of utterly no consequence in any serious effort to forcefully “retake” the Golan heights.

Thankfully the Syrians dont have morons like yourself advising them. I’d feel bad for the Syrians if they had decision makers like you in charge.

Who the fuck will stop syrian soldiers entering golan height without air cover ??? XD.

In an all out war, similar to 1967, where Israel is on the defensive, rather than some occupation like in Lebanon, the overwhelming majority of S-300 and S-400 systems would be destroyed in the first few weeks. The Israelis have plenty of their own guided missiles, a whole arsenal of them, that would completely cripple all Syrian military infrastructure for a week. Syria’s best chances would be to remain in its borders and mount an insurgency against occupying IDF forces similar to the way Hezbollah did in early 2000s. But as an attacking force? Absolutely no chance. All Arab countries know this perfectly well, and that’s part of the reason you’re no a military adviser to them. Another part of the reason is that you’re an autistic piece of shit who is completely useless and incompetent, but I digress.

This is close to my thinking as well as reflected in my post above. Good analysis by the way, since the combined threat of Syria, Hezbollah and Iran could push Israel to a ‘land for peace’ deal like with Egypt. Although Israel may be more reluctant to part with the resource rich Golan, but creative negotiations could see resource split in resource exploitation with Israel. All things possible if you want it enough.

Syria will get back full control of SDF territory since the Kurds rather remain Syrian citizens out of economic necessity. The Syrian government and SDF have been co-operating with each other since the fighting started. Same shit goes with the US assistance for the Kurds and the fight against ISIS. Assad denounced that to appease Iran and Hezbollah while waving in US and coalition forces to handle a task that he lacks the money, material and manpower to do himself. He may occasionally bitch about the YPG/SDF holding so much territory but that’s to appease the Iranians ans Hezbollah.

You are a smart man, you can do better than this. Statistical models most often involve multiple variables that lessen or increase likelihood.

You can answer your question about the Golan Heights pretty much definitively now. The buffer zone extends from the Golan Heights and so recognizes this as territory controlled by Israel . If Iran and Hezbollah accept the buffer as proposed, which seems they will, then they are accepting the status quo as well and so the chances of Assad regaining the Golan Heights anytime soon is almost zero.

On the other hand, the SDF occupied zone and the Turkish controlled zones are fraught with uncertainties but Putin can certainly tip the balance if he sides with partition to win favour with Turkey/US at the expense of Syria. It is possible that the concessions in South Syria were agreed to by Israel and US in return for agreement to partition Syria and Syria was in too weak a position to put up much resistance. I certainly see Russia being more assertive to the point one wonders if Syrian foreign policy is now subordinated to Russia. The next few weeks will be revealing.

Evrything is probabilitic and statistical.

Putinis making an unecessary deal with irsale because more likely he is a jewish puppet. israel can’t fight. israel knows that er so-called military superiority is false. They don’t Hezbollah and Iranians next to Golan hieght. israel doesn’t want Syria to get S-300 and S-400 that will shot down their aircrafts.

Turkey is opposed to partitioning of Syria.

Turkey opposes if she has no share of the spoils. Remember Erdogan has alluded to revived Ottoman Caliphate ambitions and this makes the Syrian territory occupied by Turkey very tempting. Erdogan has also shown a pragmatic willingness to shift policy positions – with exception of policy towards the Kurds, that is not changing.

Turkey never change his position about this. People keep repeating that Erdogan have the “ottoman caliphate ambition” without any proofs whatsoever.

Turkey with Qatar wants to get rid of Assad and get rid of kurds. That’s it. Turkey didn’t invade Syria until USA started supporting and arming kurds. So, Turkey invaded north Syria to stop the creation of Rojava.

I think you need to take a closer look at Turkey’s role in the Syrian conflict before arming the Kurds became an issue. There is plenty said on this and it shows Turkey was far from a passive player in the conflict.

Also, search on Erdogan public statements and ottoman revival and see what comes up.

Nobody said Turkey was passive. But, this “ottoman ambition” has no justification. No evidences that support this idea.

Turkish looters stripped out the entire industrial base of Aleppo. Turkey allowed the US to funnel terrorists into Syria via Incirlik air base, Turkey was the middleman in the ISIS to Israel oil theft and has a history of annexing parts of Syria. I’m pretty sure that both Turkey and Israel planned to annexe chunks of Syria.

Don’t be panic, Iran produces their own S-300 missile systems and will be soon delivered to Syria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDfDz0C6_W8 Iran’s Homegrown Missile Defense System ‘Bavar-373’ Completes Initial Tests. 6 Jan 2018

I never know he what Iranians say about their military wepaons is true or propagenda.

This is true. Iran produces other short range air defence missile systems too but this one is long range ADM system and has completed their all tests successfully this year in March, 2018 and now in production. When Iran is present in this world then don’t worry.

Yes there is an interesting story about Iranian missiles. When Russia refused to sell S300’s to Iran to placate the US(silly) China came along and sold them guidance modules. That’s why Iranian missiles went from Scud type accuracy, to pinpoint accuracy.

This is what I talking about. Syria need to wait. After this long and destroyed war you need to get your economy and strength your army. You need to have Tens of S300, hunderts of Pastir, 20000 Grad rocket ready…. Tousend modern Tank General Hussein aka Tiger will know to led when it’s time.

Syria could spend a trillion dollars on weapons, but only ICBM’s and nukes will stop the USA. You can’t think in logical terms when you are dealing with psychopaths.

I bet you would use a chainsaw to slice a tomato.

Do you really think intercepting ballistic missiles and shooting down AWACS over Cyprus is a high priority in the Syrian environment ?

Pantsir’s are what they need, and what they have got.

Don’t know what to make of this Serious idiot. He wants Syria and Russia to expand the conflict into Golan today! ( Instead of winning the conflict in Syria )

He’s Hasbara, and slightly more intelligent than his comrade Dirt.

Golan will probably remain in Israeli hands until the US collapses, which might be quite soon with Caligula Trump as Emperor. But the real issue for Israel, is its unsuccessful attempt to invade and annexe parts of Syria, has created a formidable military in Syria, where their was only a bunch of amateurs before their foolish aggression.

LOL! Israel already has invaded and annexed part of Syria a long time ago when Syria actually had a formidable army.

It’s not only army. You need much more. US has the biggest and most modern army but they didn’t won anything, they can only destroy but not win.