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US Marine Corps General: “I hope I’m wrong, but there’s a war coming”

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US Marine Corps General: "I hope I'm wrong, but there's a war coming"

U.S. Marines with Black Sea Rotational Force 17.1 prepare to board a bus after arriving in Vaernes, Norway, Jan. 16, 2017. (U.S. Marine Corps photo/Sgt. Erik Estrada)

US Marine Corps Gen. Robert Neller told about 300 Marines in Norway that they should be prepared for a “bigass fight” to come.

I hope I’m wrong, but there’s a war coming,” Gen. Neller said on December 21, according to Military.com. ” … You’re in a fight here, an informational fight, a political fight, by your presence.

The general made this statement during his visit to a Marine rotational force near Trondheim, about 480 km north of Nroway’s capital, Oslo.

The Norwegian Home Guard base near Trondheim was the first stop on Gen. Neller’s annual Christmas tour.

“The first Norway rotation, from 1st Battalion, 2nd Marines, deployed in January and was replaced by a new unit from 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines, in late August,” Military.com reported.

The Marine rotational force’s presence in Norway is intended to support operations by NATO and the US European Command in the area.

Neller also said that he expects the Pacific and Russia to be the service’s operational points of focus besides the situation in the Middle East.

Just remember why you’re here,” Sgt. Maj. Ronald Green told the troops, according the report. “They’re watching. Just like you watch them, they watch you. We’ve got 300 Marines up here; we could go from 300 to 3,000 overnight. We could raise the bar.

The new US National Security Strategy clearly says that Russia poses a major threat to the US interests around the world. The document accused Russia of “using information tools” to interfere with other nations’ internal policy and crosses borders agression.

“With its invasions of Georgia and Ukraine, Russia demonstrates its willingness to violate the sovereignty of states in the region,” the document says.

Gen. Neller is a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Pentagon’s senior team responsible for contingency planning. His remarks clearly show the growing tensions between Russia and the US in the region and the current level of relations between the two countries.

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World_Eye

Maybe you r not wrong but one thing tho, if war is coming you will be the ones who will start that war you american priks

Nigel Maund

WE – you bet it will be the bloody Yanks – probably with an engineered False Flag by the filthy CIA or their agents or Proxies!

AmPatriotSmith

Hey Nigel, I suppose you think the Russians are clean? They are the masters of misinformation. They have their tentacles spread around the world. It’s just that the United States gets the rap.

Hide Behind

Now wait a minute, those are strong words, matey. Being how a “prick” is not definitive of man, animals and males have pricks, so yes it is fine to call the animals no more than pricks, but please do no not lump All Americans as pricks, because most of them are p…ys. A soldier in uniform are either male or female soldiers, and they, like animals do not care who they screw. In US ,as with those of primative minds of tribals , has elevated having a warrior with or without prick in uniform, as the highest example of US maleness. Yet to a few in US we understand that being a man takes one he’ll of a lot more than just having a penis.

Jonathan Cohen

Both US and Russia support abortion rights and are therefore allies, like Cuba and N. Korea but unlike Syria.

Vince Dhimos

We too are part of the “informational tools.” The problem with the US strategy is that information is, by definition, truth, and they are against it. They fight with bullets, we fight with words. Yes, I am proud to admit that my site, newsilkstrategies.com, is an informational tool used to convey the truth. If the US military wants to kill people for telling the truth, I want to be on the front lines!

Nigel Maund

Well said Vince! The USA is just plain EVIL and they are the enemy of all humanity.

Vince Dhimos

Thanks, Nigel. The source of their evil is something called “Christian” Zionism. It is not Christian: http://www.newsilkstrategies.com/news–analysis/jesus-message-to-christian-zionists

Nod

Isn’t the USA. IS the globalists who own the Americans with greed, envy and DEBT.

Focus on the problem. The problem is the corrupt socio economic paradigm you call normal, while it has corrupted every government on the planet.

US is just the muscle for globalism. Debt is the power of globalists. Greed is the opiate for the masses.

Omega

Bingo.

Most fail to see this: that the US isnonly the muscle, the force of arm for entities who have, cleverly, remained in the shadow.

Nod

From the father of propaganda himself..

The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.

p. 37 In almost every act of our lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons […] who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires that control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world. p. 37–38

Eddie Bernays Propaganda (1928)

============================== The real truth of the matter is,as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson… -Franklin D. Roosevelt (in a letter to Colonel House, dated November 21, 1933)

Hide Behind

Yes, to those who read and understand historical truths, it is they , and only they , who can lead the ignorant out of their darkness.

Omega

The problem is that most, if not all, the ignorants are comfortable how/where they are.

Omega

This cannot be more on point; thank you for sharing.

Nigel Maund

Agreed Nod! However, it’s now up to the American’s to rebel and kick all these Zionist Globalist Banksters and Corporatists out of the USA for good and strip them of their assets and wealth.

Nod

While our governments remain slaves to the same power. So sorry, we must ALL do it. EU governments are just as complicit in imperialism. All of our governments are complicit in banking fraud.

People in the EU are governed by NON ELECTED banksters in Brussels. How are they any less culpable of cooperation in the obscenity called globalism.

Conscious Gentile

The Bible has made pacifists of the American people.

It demands submission to political leaders.

It says God demands total submission to governments.

This is the greatest obstacle to overthrowing the elite…

Nod

“The Bible has made pacifists of the American people.”

lol

Tim

We are the submit to the governing authorities ONLY if they don’t violate God’s Word. if they do, we have the example of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who said we are to serve God rather than man.

Hide Behind

Yes, I concur , especally with last sentence.

AmPatriotSmith

We are trying to fight the elitists here.

Nod

while you should be trying to fight INEQUALITY as a way of life. The elites get their power from inequality. INequality = violence, science says.

AmPatriotSmith

So, how would you fight inequality, communist? I know, income redistribution! So, if I legitimately work at something I should turn most of my earnings over to someone else who didn’t work for it because they’re poor and deserve to take most of what I made, right?

Nod

Ignorance is not knowledge. In less than 20 years, half the jobs are gone to technology. IN 50 years. most all are gone. In about 100 years, replicator technology will be upon us.

Your pointless FEAR, is wasted. The greed and envy, are programmed into us.

You live in a fascist state as we speak, with the rich holding over 95% of the wealth on this planet, and you prattle on with fear of losing your crumbs to other slaves.

I would rather live in a true communist state, than a fascist state, any day. But because I can understand that any ideology can be corrupted by INEQUALITY, I know than no true socialist or communist state is possible right now.

I also know for fact, that with tech doing work, money is obsolete.Why shoudl anyone pay for goods and services done by tech using resources belonging to all.

My take,most people who babble on about communism are usually dumb enough to think capitalism still exists, 50 years after its decline. How about you ?

AlexanderAmproz

According to McKinsey Global Institute,

800 Millions peoples World wide will loose their job before 2030, it’s 1/5 of the today workforce !

Nod

“To be sure, technological progress has always displaced workers. But it also has created new opportunities for human employment, at an even a faster rate. This time, things may be very different – especially as the Internet of Things takes the human factor out of so many transactions and decisions. The “Second Economy” (the term used by economist Brian Arthur to describe the portion of the economy where computers transact business only with other computers) is upon us. It is, quite simply, the virtual economy, and one of its main byproducts is the replacement of workers with intelligent machines powered by sophisticated code. This booming Second Economy is brimming with optimistic entrepreneurs, and already spawning a new generation of billionaires. In fact, the booming Second Economy will probably drive much of the economic growth in the coming decades.

And here is the even more sobering news: Arthur speculates that in a little more than ten years, 2025, this Second Economy may be as large as the original “first” economy was in 1995 – about $7.6 trillion. If the Second Economy does achieve that rate of growth, it will be replacing the work of approximately 100 million workers. To put that number in perspective, the current total employed civilian labor force today is 146 million. A sizeable fraction of those replaced jobs will be made up by new ones in the Second Economy. But not all of them. Left behind may be as many as 40 million citizens of no economic value in the U.S alone. The dislocations will be profound.”

hbrDOTorg/2014/12/what-happens-to-society-when-robots-replace-workers

Nod

And we must always remember, the ruling elites always downplay the numbers , so as not to stampede the herd.

AlexanderAmproz

Just remember the problems wen the swing machine or steam machines were discovered… Peoples living older in better shape, it will need employments. France is waiting to have 50’000 over 100 Tears Old by 2050… For me nothing is important as long as the Environment and Peoples are put at the preoccupation Center, we have only one Earth and one life. Money and consumption shouldn’t be a target by itself, simple life is the best ! I spend 0n third of my life in the Alps wilderness, one third scuba diving, and one third traveling World wide. In the early sixties it was one or two months a year in London or by a boathouse on the Tames in Oxford. Albert and Victoria Sciences museum and the British Museum to vist my ancestor pictures occupied most of my times…

Nod

You have lived a seemingly interesting life. Now I see at least one source of the wisdom that is in your words.

Yet, the world is not over populated. We simply have too many people indulging in cyclical consumption for profit.

Where everyone wants to live like a Frenchman, or European, or American.. Planned obsolescence, built to fail crap so they can make more money. More for me, and fuck the rest. This whole idea of inequality as a way of life needs to go. Once that happens, life will be better for all, including other species on this planet. We shit in the air, shit in the water, shit on the land. Chemical shit, plastic shit, and all because a few want more more more, and the rest of us want to be just like them.

Everyone on the planet could live in South America with an acre of land. Right now.

AmPatriotSmith

You are hopelessly ignorant. Communism becomes as abusive as fascism. Both systems concentrate the power to the State, not the people. And yes, automation is replacing the jobs people use to do and so we have to adapt and become more educated to fill those jobs instead of complaining about inequality. [Sorry, about redponding so late]

Nod

“Communism becomes as abusive as fascism. Both systems concentrate the power to the State, not the people. ”

Any ideology, including your beloved capitalism, is susceptible to totalitarianism. All it requires in INEQUALITY of money, power, or representation.

Your so called capitalism, no longer exists. Because it is owned by money power. That is a matter of fact and reason. Because in an idiotology built around dog eat dog and a lust for more, the big dogs have already won. They be called bankers.

3% own 95 % of the wealth on the planet,. Wake up…

And fill what jobs. They are being taken away, not replaced. So you can educate all you want,. There are less jobs for more people, every year. There is NO adapting.|

You lack reason in your thinking. You also think your “contrary to fact and reason” opinion is fact.

You likely vote, while being clueless of the FACT that you vote for those appointed for you to vote for. And get angry at when they service the rich at our expense.

Nod

use your head. THINK

Tony B.

It has a name that should be ALWAYS mentioned: The Rothschild cabal in its City of London. Has run the world for centuries now.

Nod

but the system of inequality we live under ALLOWS these sorts to control the planet. Without the SYSTEM, these men would be as worthless as their ideas for our future.

Tony B.

They ARE the system. Why not say so?

Nigel Maund

The US are not only downright bloody dangerous but they’re totally crackers! This totally insane country and its utter love and absorption with war renders it utterly inappropriate to be a world power of any sort. It’s utter greed and efforts to exert global hegemony on the part of a corrupt and evil group looosely known as the Zionist International Bankster – Corporatist Cabal make them the greatest threat to humanity in all of human history! ….. I have requested all my sons to never fight on behalf of the UK or Australia in any foreign wars even were the US and UK to be defeated. They will be consciencious objectors as I have instructed them.

I make no bones about my utter hatred of the USA Government and all that it stands for…… If they do engineer a war with Russia I hope they are thoroughly defeated and destroyed…. which will be precisely what they deserve. Perhaps once the stupid Americans have had their population reduced heavily and their country smashed to pieces they may finally learn to abhor war and its consequences!…… It bears no resemblance to Hollywoods assinine renditions in all their stupid jingoistic films.

FlorianGeyer

I too would not fight for the preservation of the cabal that is destroying all that our forefathers fought and died for. They did not struggle to preserve the Zionist lunatics that control America of for the Israeli scum that murder with impunity whilst the mind washed American goyim who are willing to die for a jew blindly murder for fun ( I hesitate to use the term brainwashed ).

Nigel Maund

FG well said and agree entirely! The US and NATO are the Zionists armies full of brainwashed suckers prepared to sacrifice their lives for a monstrous bunch of lies and, if they’re lucky, get an epitaph and idiotic films made to eulogise their miserable deaths in a war for power and profit by the so called Elites; i.e, the Cabal that hide well behind the front lines.

Tony B.

You have convinced yourself of a pack of really stupid lies.

Nod

Explain how these are stupid lies. America DOES imperialism for globalism. THe elites ARE globalism. The useful idiots in American prattle on about patriotism and how they are exceptional people. While they do mass murder , as they have done for decades. Feeding us ridiculous lies about why they do what they do. tOO STUPID TO SEE THEMSELVES MANIPULATED.

The really stupid fukks are in America, where they actually beLIEve 19 Muslims with box cutters took down 3 building with 2 airplanes by shutting down 3 laws of science to do so.

I have no respect for Americans. Used to. They lost it with their support of the lies of 911, and subsequent genocide of Muslims.

If you are going to call someone a liar, you should make point as to why you do so. Not to do so, simply tells me the source of your objections come from cognitive dissonance rather than thought and fact.

AmPatriotSmith

There are no lies about 9/11; it happened and not because it was an “inside job” as all you conspiratory theorists think. Bin Laden was behind the whole thing. You say we’re committing genocide against Muslims. Well, Muslims are committing genocide against each other, you know ISIS? And the terrorist country, Iran, stimulating trouble themselves in the ME; Yemen and Syria comes to mind. It’s Muslims that send children to strap bombs on themselves (suicide bombers)

AlexanderAmproz

One things I am sure, Bin Laden wasn’t involved !

Another things I am sure “All was said is wrong and forged” and I know what about I am talking to have been a direct testimony of some events !

Nod

there is nothing more sure than the basic laws of science.

Law of thermo-dynamics

“If you have a flame of 750 degrees, you can hold that flame under steel forever and you will NEVER reach a high enough temperature to bend steel, let alone melt it.” Robert Podolsky – Masters in theoretical physics, Physicist /engineer. Systems analyst, Air Force Avionics Lab, Coast Guard electronics

Law of aerodynamics “”I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93. I don’t believe it’s possible for, like I said, for a terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it’s design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding — pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G’s. The aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn’t do it and I’m absolutely positive they couldn’t do it.” Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown.

Law of motion/momentum Commander James Clow, MS, U.S. Coast Guard (ret) – Retired U.S. Coast Guard officer “No matter how one views the videos of the Towers and Building 7 collapsing, the laws of physics MUST hold true. If F=ma appears to have been violated (e.g., free-fall collapse of the buildings at nearly 9.8 m/sec/sec), then something is seriously amiss and one must start looking for the “other hand” hidden beneath the table to discover what is really happening” —

Nod

Oh ya, science must have stopped on 911, and we must pretend your ignorance is knowledge.

Damn, drink more fluoride….

Nod

Isn’t me who says we do genocide on Muslims, it are the numbers. Difference between you and me, I can think freely, you are stuck in whatever BIAS you have been conditioned to.

You, are delusional with unproven anti science based beLIEfs. In denial of fact. You do realize of course, that only those with a 2 digit IQ could possible agree with that babble right ?

“last month, the Washington DC-based Physicians for Social Responsibility (PRS) released a landmark study concluding that the death toll from 10 years of the “War on Terror” since the 9/11 attacks is at least 1.3 million, and could be as high as 2 million.

The 97-page report by the Nobel Peace Prize-winning doctors’ group”

“The PSR report is authored by an interdisciplinary team of leading public health experts, including Dr. Robert Gould, director of health professional outreach and education at the University of California San Francisco Medical Center, and Professor Tim Takaro of the Faculty of Health Sciences at Simon Fraser University.”

AlexanderAmproz

On a different subject, but parallel ========================== The Preacher and Vietnam: When Billy Graham Urged Nixon to Kill One Million People

by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR – ALEXANDER COCKBURN

There’s a piquant contrast in the press coverage across the decades of Billy Graham’s various private dealings with Richard Nixon, as displayed on the tapes gradually released from the National Archive or disclosed from Nixon’s papers. We’ll come shortly to the flap over Graham and Nixon’s closet palaverings about the Jews, but first let’s visit another interaction between the great evangelist and his commander-in-chief.

Back in April, 1989, a Graham memo to Nixon was made public. It took the form of a secret letter from Graham, dated April 15, 1969, drafted after Graham met in Bangkok with missionaries from Vietnam. These men of God said that if the peace talks in Paris were to fail, Nixon should step up the war and bomb the dikes. Such an act, Graham wrote excitedly, “could overnight destroy the economy of North Vietnam”.

Graham lent his imprimatur to this recommendation. Thus the preacher was advocating a policy to the US Commander in Chief that on Nixon’s own estimate would have killed a million people. The German high commissioner in occupied Holland, Seyss-Inquart, was sentenced to death at Nuremberg for breaching dikes in Holland in World War Two. (His execution did not deter the USAF from destroying the Toksan dam in North Korea, in 1953, thus deliberately wrecking the system that irrigated 75 per cent of North Korea’s rice farms.)

This disclosure of Graham as an aspirant war criminal did not excite any commotion when it became public in 1989, twenty years after it was written. No one thought to chide Graham or even question him on the matter. Very different has been the reception of a new tape revealing Graham, Nixon and Haldeman palavering about Jewish domination of the media and Graham invoking the “stranglehold” Jews have on the media.

On the account of James Warren in the Chicago Tribune, who has filed excellent stories down the years on Nixon’s tapes, in this 1972 Oval Office session between Nixon, Haldeman and Graham, the President raises a topic about which “we can’t talk about it publicly,” namely Jewish influence in Hollywood and the media.

Nixon cites Paul Keyes, a political conservative who was executive producer of the NBC hit, “Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In,” as telling him that “11 of the 12 writers are Jewish.”

“That right?” says Graham, prompting Nixon to claim that Life magazine, Newsweek, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and others, are “totally dominated by the Jews.”

Nixon says network TV anchors Howard K. Smith, David Brinkley and Walter Cronkite “front men who may not be of that persuasion,” but that their writers are “95 percent Jewish.”

“This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country’s going down the drain,” the nation’s best-known preacher declares.

“You believe that?” Nixon says.

“Yes, sir,” Graham says.

“Oh, boy,” replies Nixon.

“So do I. I can’t ever say that but I believe it.”

“No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something,” Graham replies.

Magnanimously Nixon concedes that this does not mean “that all the Jews are bad,” but that most are left-wing radicals who want “peace at any price except where support for Israel is concerned. The best Jews are actually the Israeli Jews.”

“That’s right,” agrees Graham, who later concurs with a Nixon assertion that a “powerful bloc” of Jews confronts Nixon in the media.

“And they’re the ones putting out the pornographic stuff,” Graham adds.

Later Graham says that “a lot of the Jews are great friends of mine. They swarm around me and are friendly to me. Because they know I am friendly to Israel and so forth. They don’t know how I really feel about what they’re doing to this country.”

After Graham’s departure Nixon says to Haldeman, “You know it was good we got this point about the Jews across.”

“It’s a shocking point,” Haldeman replies.

“Well,” says Nixon, “It’s also, the Jews are irreligious, atheistic, immoral bunch of bastards.”

Within days of these exchanges becoming public the decrepit Graham was hauled from his semi-dotage, and impelled to express public contrition. “Experts” on Graham were duly cited as expressing their “shock” at Graham’s White House table talk.

Why the shock?

Don’t they know that this sort of stuff is consonant with the standard conversational bill of fare at 75 per cent of the country clubs in America, not to mention many a Baptist soiree?

Nixon thought that American Jews were lefty peaceniks who dominated the Democratic Party and were behind the attacks on him.

Graham reckoned it was Hollywood Jews who had sunk the nation in porn.

Haldeman agreed with both of them.

At whatever level of fantasy they were all acknowledging power. But they didn’t say they wanted to kill a million Jews.

That’s what Billy Graham said about the Vietnamese and no one raised a bleat.

This essay is excerpted from End Times: the Death of the Fourth Estate. https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/27/the-preacher-and-vietnam-when-billy-graham-urged-nixon-to-kill-one-million-people/

AlexanderAmproz

“Muslim Bashing” taget is the Land-Grabbing Zionism to create the never existed “Great Israel” from Nile to Euphrate. Herodote was born(480BC) in Halikarnas/Bodrum(Turkey) 50 years after the supposed death of the supposed Great King Salomon. He is one of the History and Geography best reference, he never mentioned “Salomon”, this name, as well Great King David or Jericho can’t be found in any writing of these times(Greek, Hieroglyph, Cuneiform)

The second target for “Muslim Bashing” is Western Colonialism for Oil=Petro-Dollars=America. It’s mostly done by Ashkenazi Fascist/Racist from European origins with Black Sea roots, Jews by proselytism, they aren’t more from the Mideast than the Christian Crusaders were…

The “Muslim Bashing” has nothing to envy to the “Joseph Goebbels” Nazi Jews Bashing, but it’s ironically done by racist “Western” Jews, discriminating hellishly Fallagas and Sephardi’s ! (The Ringworm Children: Zionist genocidal experiments on Jews) https://www.sott.net/article/201207-The-Ringworm-Children-Zionist-genocidal-experiments-on-Jews

When it started in the early eighties, I ask myself “who is Muslim around me ?” The answer was 5 out of my 7 closest surrounding ! I am an Atheist with deep Protestant roots, never noticed any religious discriminative attitudes among my Muslim, Poor and Rich friends, but mostly “Humanist”, their “integration” in the Geneva “Culture” is perfect. I became “involuntarily” an insider observer of some MI6, French Services, and CIA manoeuvres trying to involved my closest friend since 40 years…

I know many Pilots, all of them said 911 was impossible if none tag aircraft on the buildings… On the same times I do remember the Egypt Air plane plunging straight into the Sea from 30’000 Ft after take off from New-York JFK ! Supposedly crashed by a crazy terrorist stewards…

Little known, the passengers were the Egypt State Staff of the armies of air needing 20 Years to be rebuilt… Who enjoy the crime, Mossad… ? One passenger was pull out of the plane at the Airport gate, curiously his name is General Al Sissi the actual Egyptian NeoColonial “puppet” President…

Nod

Culture.

“barrier to your enlightenment, your education, and your decency, is your culture. And I realise with joy that here I skirt the bounds of political correctness, because everyone is running around saying, you know, “Recapture your roots, get in touch with your Swedishness, your Irishness, your whateverishness”… and that’s all very fine, but I think it’s your humanness that may have eluded you in all this ethnocentric ?? [applause from audience]…

Well, why should culture imprison us, and somehow place a barrier between ourselves and our true humanness? Well, I think I said at the beginning of this thing, culture and ideology are not your friends. They are not your friends. This is a hard thing to come to terms with, because a certain kind of alienation lies at the end of this thought process. On the other hand, you can’t live in the cradle for ever; you can’t be clueless for ever. So somebody might as well just lay it out for you, and say: Culture is for the convenience of culture, not you. How many times have your sexual desires, career aspirations, financial dealings and aesthetic inclinations been squashed, twisted, rejected, and minimised by cultural values? And if you don’t think culture is your enemy, ask the 18-year-old kid who is given a rifle and sent to the other side of the world to murder strangers if culture is his friend.

These extreme examples should bring it home to us that it’s a kind of a con game. It is in fact, strangely enough, a kind of virtual reality. We have been led to think of virtual realities as something on the screen of a computer, or presented through a headset, but that’s an electronic virtual reality. The primary technology for the building of virtual realities is language. Once you start talking about race pride, loyalty, our destiny, our God, our mission, it’s like building virtual realities; and people begin to treat these things as though they had the substantiality of real objects, and to build their lives as though these things are real. And what is this? It’s a diminution of humanness. You’re choosing to limit yourself to a cultural reality; whether it’s the reality of being Huitoto or Orthodox Jewish, or whatever it is, it’s a smaller world than the simple hardware you were born into this universe with.”

Terrence McKenna

AlexanderAmproz

It’s paradoxical, but I do believe more confident and stronger your Cultural roots are, easier it is to be open to foreigners by curiosity and to learn something, or new attitudes… Diversity is wealth, the same for a Library !

Tony B.

What gives you the idea that Americans are “willing to die for a jew, etc.”? Methinks you people have gotten to the point of believing your own wild-eyed posts.

FlorianGeyer

Americans have been dying for Jews since their late entry into WW1 Tony. Follow the money.

Tony B.

The operative word here is “willing,” by omitting it you have just completely changed the attempt of your message to, again, disparage Americans.

FlorianGeyer

May I suggest that you read the works of Edward Bernays. The general American benightedness owes much to his teachings that were used by those who now control your minds. You have great pride in your ignorance. Including Nikki Haley and your president.

Sadly the US has become the laughing stock of the world. Monkeys with hand grenades.

Tony B.

Have known all about Bernays and a bath tub full just like him for many years. So what? Are you ignorant enough to lump every last American as subject to that? What about your own country? Every last person there a true genus and untouchable by a sly trickster, I suppose. Yeah, sure. You people who hate Amercians need to take a closer look at yourselves.

FlorianGeyer

“BL • 3 months ago (((Who))) owns and controls the US Media and entertainment industry?

Big T.V. Media Channels:

1. ABC (Disney) channel/news: Bob Iger – CEO (Jew) 2. NBC (Comcast) channel/news: Brian L. Roberts – CEO (Jew) 3. CBS channel/news: Leslie Moonves – CEO (Jew) 4. CNN channel/news: No CEO, Jeff Zucker – President (Jew) 5. Fox channel/news: Rupert Murdoch – CEO (assumed Anglo)

Current Major U.S. Movie Studios:

1. Walt Disney: Bob Iger – CEO (Jew) 2. Sony Pictures: No CEO, Thomas Rothman – Chairman (Jew) 3. Universal Studios (Comcast): Brian L. Roberts – CEO (Jew) 4. 20th Century Fox: Stacey Snider – CEO (Jew) 5. Paramount Pictures: Jim Gianopulos – CEO (Hellene) 6. Warner Brothers: Kevin Tsujihara – CEO (Jap)

Current Mini-Major U.S. Movie Studios:

1. Lions Gate Films: Jon Feltheimer – CEO (Jew) 2. STX films: Robert Simons – CEO (Jew) 3. Open Road Films: Tom Ortenberg – CEO (assumed Jew) 4. The Weinstein’s Company: No CEO, Bob & Harvey Weinstein – Private Owners (Jews) 5. Amblin Partners: Michael Wright – CEO (Unknown) 6. CBS Films: Leslie Moonves – CEO (Jew) 7. MGM: Gary Barber – CEO (Jew “

Tony B.

And every last one lavishly financed with Rothschild cabal money that is withheld from anyone not willing to prostitute to it. By the way, there are Jews of every race so those you label other races may still be Jews.

FlorianGeyer

I would agree with what you say and it would be crass to say that ALL Jews are bad . They are not. However, for thousands of years Jews have been disliked by most if not all countries where they have lived. There has to be reason for this and the other main example would be Gypsy’s I suppose and both groups have tended to wander around the globe and outliving their welcome .

World opinions of Jews today would be somewhat different if the rulers of Israel had not behaved in such a predatory way.

But ” There’s the rub ”.

AlexanderAmproz

If Racist, others answer is racism, tit for tat… Action, reaction, nothing more simple !

Nod

I think it is funny that you argue against perceived BIAS directed towards american imperialists in argument. When said argument is based on observation of facts.

Then you damn a whole group of people called jews, for the actions of a group of money whores made up from many different creeds and cultures.

A direct application of BIAS, if there ever was one.

Tony B.

Are you brain twisted or what? You insist on pretending that what I wrote is what you say it is when you know it isn’t at all. “American imperialists” is a made up phrase by people like you. I don’t know one single American who could even give a dictionary definition of an imperialist. And those who actually fit the description are neo con, mostly Israeli, talmudists, who think they are people, the rest of humanity their slaves.

You can go through every post I have ever made on any and all computer sites and NEVER will you be able to find ONE SINGLE INCIDENCE wherein I have “damned” all Jews. As a matter of fact I have worked with Jews, and still do, who are more determined to expose the talmudists than ANY goy because they know exactly what the insane talmudists plan to do to the world. I’m getting tired of having to defend myself from you because you constantly LIE about what I comment here.

For some reason you have no concept of fairness to others so long as you can make yourself look good in your own eyes. That appears to be totally a talmudic tactic.

Goodby, you aren’t worth the effort or the time.

Nod

“I don’t know one single American who could even give a dictionary definition of an imperialist. ”

irrelevant. I don’t care how stupid that many Americans have become swilling down a EPA designated class 4 developmental neuro toxin called fluoride. My profession is law, and under law, ignorance is no excuse. Because one doesn’t KNOW what they do is wrong, doesn’t excuse the wrong. Nor does it protect them from punishment.

Here is some fact…

“”We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran” –General Wesley Clark. Retired 4-star U.S. Army general, Supreme AlliedCommander of NATO during the 1999 War on Yugoslavia .

“That is the phenomenon of the US. Since 1945 they’ve destroyed 73 countries and were directly involved in the deaths of 26 million people. It is a horror show. It just must stop!” John Shipton, journalist and executive officer of Wiki Leaks.

That my friend, is AMERICAN imperialism. For fact.

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YOU SAID “And those who actually fit the description (imperialist) are neo con, mostly Israeli, talmudists,”

Not according to fact.

“Race Profile of Active Duty Force Service % White % Minorities % Black % Other Army 73.9 % 26.1 % 21.5 % 4.6 % Navy 66.2 % 33.8 % 19.3 % 14.4 % Marine Corps 83.7 % 16.3 % 11.1 % 5.2 % Air Force 78.1 % 21.9 % 15.6 % 6.3 % Coast Guard 82 % 18 % 6.1 % 11.9 % Total 74.6 % 25.4 % 17.8 % 7.6 %

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You said “I’m getting tired of having to defend myself from you because you constantly LIE about what I comment here.”

And I am not attacking YOU. That is your problem, and a problem shared by many. When you own a belief, your ego is tied up to it. that is why you feel you “defend” . What you should do, is improve understandings. Understandings can be improved, without involving ego. I am always pleased to have an improved understandings. Problems usually arise when someone wants me to accept their position, when said position is untenable for reasons that the person will not accept, pursuant an ego tied beLIEf.

I also lie about nothing, I do not need to, because I have no position to defend. I only seek to provide relevant, and MATERIAL facts. Jews, although relevant, are IMMATERIAL to what is a socio economically induced problem called globalism.

You respond with ad hom when your beLIEf’s are challenged. I see a closet hater, clever enough to pretend otherwise. ===========

YOU SAY “”For some reason you have no concept of fairness to others so long as you can make yourself look good in your own eyes. That appears to be totally a talmudic tactic.””

Yet not clever enough to hide it when you are emotionally upset.

I do not need to look good. What I need is intelligent discourse, absent prejudice and hate. There is nothing fair in argument. Most times, the truth just aint fair.

Nod

t aint fair that Americans are forced to kill themselves by drinking a poison that does nothing beneficial when drinking it.

It aint fair that jobs are disappearing, so Americans have to go to the murder death cult for a job.

It aint fair that Americans have SUPPORTED totally corrupt political systems, when common sense and science and a basic understanding of sociology sorts out who, and why….

It aint fair they STILL vote, wave flags, chant slogans, give up thought, to a couple points of view, that always end up the same in office. thereby affirming their support of corruption of ideologically basis. Total ownership of our government, makes for fascism, while fools still spout horseshit about capitalism and democracy, neither which exists, while one is obsolete.

It aint fair that Americans have ZERO say in any real decisions about their own country. I will argue that position, with evidence. This lack of real power has been a reality for a long time, but since 911 the lock down has begun and the illusions have been discarded, a few at a time.

((((It aint fair we do mass murder for money power. And stupid people support it. Mentally, all twisted up with bad logic, lack of reason, hate, beLIEf. ))))

It ain fair that Zionists help Americans, Frenchmen, Canadians et al, to bomb sovereign nations absent such request. Invade, steal resources, impose usury.

It aint fair that the Zionists have made an open air prison of Palestine, while Palestinian Semites are killed, driven out, separated from family….

((((It aint fair Zionists of any religion, do mass murder, for money power. And stupid people support it.)))

It aint fair we have been mind-washed by our cultures, religions, and sociopathic ideologies.. As impressionable to that, as we are impressionable to parental influence. Mind-washed to hate, and prejudice, and other.

It certainly aint fair, to blame any one group for what WE ALL participate in. By voting, by enlisting, hating, eating disinformation, allowing them to poison our minds and bodies with fluoride…

but mostly by TAKING ON DEBT. That is the source of ALL THE POWER.

That is truth. The only truth we should worry about. All of us.

Nod

Wonder why every post you reply to, you start with ad hom.. that doesn’t lend to serious consideration of argument.

Nod

source please?

FlorianGeyer

Check for yourself if you wish Nod. Its all freely available information and will give you something to do. Happy New Year.

Nod

Oh I had lots to do. Researching my court pleadings and such. And you should know that no one with a 3 digit IQ will take any statement of fact at face value without some sort of supporting evidence. If you really KNOW what you speak of, you WILL be able to support it with some evidence.

FlorianGeyer

As far as you are concerned Nod, I cannot really be bothered. I will leave you to your ‘Court pleadings’.

Nod

Yes, ignorance wants ignorance. Someone with a unproven position, will say anything to support it. Some like to wallow in shite….

FlorianGeyer

I will leave you to wallow Nod. Goodbye.

Nod

you dismiss bernays, When the whole planet is controlled by his methods. As we speak.

You are also correct that Americans are no more to blame than any country person participating in the banking fraud.

Yet matey, you all go about waving flags still, calling yourselves as exceptional.

While you are the muscle, for imperialism. DO you deny this fact?

Tony B.

You like to make you point with little lies, don’t you. I wrote I KNOW ALL ABOUT BERNAYS, just how is that “dismissal?” We do NOT ALL go about waving flags, you lying idiot. To lump all people in a country as one is the height of NO ARGUMENT. To use your argument I would reply that you, obviously a Muslim, are a damned head chopper, just LIKE ALL OTHER MUSLIMS. You get closer with the ‘muscle” so why do you not go the whole way right up to the brain that runs the muscle, THE ROTHSCHILD CABAL IN ITS CITY OF LONDON? Next year your country may be the Rothschild muscle, they own almost every country, you know. Or are you just covering for them?

Nod

“We do NOT ALL go about waving flags, you lying idiot.”

Oh ya, wait for when the next elections comes up, and the herd of americans go and vote for whoever they are told to vote for by the rich. Little flags everywhere, chanting freedom and democracy when the truth is oh so opposite.

As to me being an idiot. I spent 8 hours having my IQ and vocational abilities tested for a career change. IQ is in the top 3% of the population. So you might be a bit off with that ad hom.

As to lumping you all together, when our sick as shit society sends drones over to murder people defending themselves against imperialism, there is no “we“ good Americans, and them `bad`. Americans.. There is only that pesky American flag on the tip of that bomb driven by the American murder death cult.

Of course the banking system is the source of the power that drives globalism and imperialism. And of course, I will not blame a Rothschild, or a Rockefeller, because it is the SYSTEM of inequality that allows for our world to be as it is. Fix that, your blame names become irrelevant. Problem with we Americans, we are all fixated on acquisition of wealth and inequality, ,and would die rather than give up inequality as a lifestyle..

Nod

silence is also consent. truth hurts.

Tony B.

I have a life, I don’t live on this site. And you? Troll for a living, do you?

Nod

unassailable fact is often met with pointless and irrelevant ad hom. This is the first time I have been here in weeks. I work for a living.

AlexanderAmproz

Wake-up and open your Eyes, F. G. is perfectly correct. Everybody with a brain and some knowledges and experiments will obviously say the same !

Nod

“willing to die for money power”, is correct. To say jew, only confuses the material issue. That being power gained pursuant inequality.

It is irrelevant that jews won the inequality banking game, it would still exists exactly as it is, if Chinese folks had won. Maybe worse.

Money power is NOT just Jewish. And if you were to ban every Jew on the planet from working with money, the void in the SYSTEM would be quickly filled with non jews. The system is the problem, the players are immaterial.

Anirudh Vikram

The United States is following the trajectory of the Roman Empire and now even it’s brainwashed, expendable soldiers have realized that they have been conned. This youtube video shines some light on the decay: https://youtu.be/zrjkTExcXbk

Nigel Maund

Great post Amirudh!!! Thanks for sharing this!!

Anirudh Vikram

Thanks Nigel ! You’re welcome and am glad that you found the post material useful (-:

AmPatriotSmith

Alright, stupid Nigel, they guy stated in your video that “we joined the military for a free education, healthcare”. What an idiot! That’s not why anyone should join the military. Nothing in this world is for free because someone else ultimately has to pay for that “free” stuff. They’re in the military to serve the country; however, our leaders better be sure what they’re sending our young men to die for and as I mentioned in my earlier posts, preemption is a a big mistake that America should not make.

Larissa Vanderbilt

The last 4 wars have all been for the Zionist cause for sure . .

AmPatriotSmith

I do believe Iraq was about Israel. It’s my belief Israel wanted US to get rid of Sadaam. That was a mistake.

Nod

Saddam said he was gonna trade his oil in Euros, rather than the petro dollar, that which funds imperialism.

He got invaded and whacked.

Gaddafi said he was going to trade his oil in gold…while he put oil profits back into Libya.

He got invaded, whacked, and the Libyan bank immediately seized the gold, and issued FIAT funny money, with interest.

China and Russia now trade oil in currencies other than the petro dollar, they are being surrounded as we speak. Trump calls them anti american.

The petro dollar creates the permanent need for american dollars, allowing them to print as much money as they want, to fund the wars done in the interest of globalism.. Mess with that, they will whack you, invade you, and bomb you back to the stone age.

AlexanderAmproz

I can’t agree more ! American masses have to wake-up !

AmPatriotSmith

Do you blabber on and on. So without banks, do you want to hide your money under your pillowcase?

Nod

Technology is killing the need for money. But if I need a bank, I dont need a bank that creates money out of nothing, and lends it to the world, with interest., Read, before you babble alright..

“In the modern economy, most money takes the form of bank deposits. But how those bank deposits are created is often misunderstood: the principal way is through commercial banks making loans. Whenever a bank makes a loan, it simultaneously creates a matching deposit in the borrower’s bank account, thereby creating new money”

Bank of England,modern money creation.

You seem to be a fully mindwashed slave. Slave to fake politics, slave to fake money, slave to fake nations.

Tony B.

Nod, you and I should not be attacking one another. There are so few people, especially those who come to these sites, who understand anything at all about money creation that one practically gives up trying to get people to understand. Over half a century ago I got into this war politically and finally realized that nothing in politics will ever change for the better until the world has honest money as the criminals in charge of creating money almost everywhere today can buy all the politicians they please while those who would oppose them are kept pennyless. In fact they have bought almost all the whole countries in the world, keeping us all fighting against one another in their basic tactic of divide and conquer. These sites, unfortunately only HELP THE CABAL IN THAT TACTIC. We should be educating those who will listen on the real power in the world instead of fighting one another.

Nigel Maund

How many US soldiers have died for nothing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, and the list goes on and on. Just like British soldiers in the so called “Empire” they too died to preserve the profit making activities of the UK Elites most prominently the Rothschild’s, Oppenheimers, Barings, Stanleys, Hambro’s, The Royal Family and so on. They did not die to preserve Britain’s was of life from outside attack except in WW2. Our men and women died to preserve the profits of the so called Elites. The US soldier is doing the same, only it’s getting a hell of a lot worse. All this serving the country crap is just fodder for the monkeys. There’s no glory in a worthless death. The Americans and British are very slow learners because they’re totally brainwashed by a controlled MSM.

My son was foolish enough to fight for the British Army in Afghanistan for a war he quickly realised the US and UK would lose and moreover was largely fought over CIA control of the opium poppy drug business as their supply of black money to fund their dirty Ops around the world. I am,as you’ll have realised, no friend of the US or NATO and make no pretense of being so. Both the USA and UK lost the moral high ground a very long time ago. This was becasue theit Governments are controlled by the Zionist Internations Bankster – Corporatist Cabal aka the NEOCONS, which are actually their puppets with examples such as John McCain and Nikki Hailey.

AmPatriotSmith

The real Deep State in the United States, is not who you think. The Deep State is the Progressive Left. They are the true elitists. They are communists who want to change American history to their narrative, thus degrading our country and you have bought into it, hook, line and sinker.

Getting back to what you said about the US and UK losing the moral high ground – I suppose Russia, China and Iran have a higher moral high ground in your eyes. They are expansionist countries and expansionism was one of the causes of the Second World War. Judging by your statements, you are a true communist; but you are confused as to who the real elitists are.

I do agree with you, however, that since the end of the Second World War, the United States has made a number of mistakes in Vietnam, Iraq and Libya in particular. You have forgotten the real reason why we went into Afghanistan and that was because of 9/11, not to take control of the opium trade. I think the profits from the opium trade were used by the terrorists to fund their operations.

I know you hate Israel and to be honest, I am not a real fan of theirs since they were big land grabbers; however, the Muslims also do not have the moral high ground since they are good at killing each other.

Nigel Maund

APS – thanks for your post above; your views respected. I agree with some of them. However, I have studied this matter in detail. As a US patriot, you may be surprised to kow that before the US War of Independence the Rothschild’s family had already established a financial stranglehold on Britain and it was they that wanted to impose the taxes that caused the rebellion and

AmPatriotSmith

Look, I’m not going to argue with you over the Jews. I always thought they are self serving and it is true that the Rothschild family amassed power in Europe because through wealth they would have power and that was because for centuries they were persecuted.

Tony B.

Give some truth about that persecution. Not bullshit, facts that can be proven.

Tony B.

Give us ONE SINGLE FACT that can tie 9/11 to Afghanistan. There are none. Only bullshit from media and money grubbing politicians and academia assholes who are the most brainwashed of all. And how does that belief of yours about Afghanistan carry over to the Middle East? Brain dead with a “mouth” that can’t stop. You are a lesson to the others here of just what the lie tactics of academia are. One can spot a college boy in a 15 second conversation these days.

Nod

Only a fucking idiot beLIEves the official bullshit on 911.

Nod

”The only peer-reviewed papers that provide a physically plausible mechanism for collapse of WTC 1, 2, or 7 are papers that conclude with controlled demolition – a result consistent with the fact that in over 100 years, no high-rise steel frame building has ever collapsed from fire alone. “” Timothy E. Eastman, Ph.D., Physics Group Manager for Space Science Support Heliospheric Physics Laboratory NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

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“The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center].”

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). ———————————————

“Serious technical investigations by experts seem to be lacking from the official explanations.”

Larry L. Erickson, BS Aeronautical Eng, MS Aeronautical Eng, PhD Eng Mechanics – Retired NASA Aerospace Engineer and Research Scientist. Conducted research in the fields of structural dynamics, aerodynamics, aeroelasticity and flutter. Recipient of NASA’s Aerodynamics Division Researcher-of-the-Year Award. 33-year NASA career. Member, American Institute of Aeronautics & Astronautics.

And i know this is hard to accept, but truth just is.

Nod

Science says… Law of thermo-dynamics “If you have a flame of 750 degrees, you can hold that flame under steel forever and you will NEVER reach a high enough temperature to bend steel, let alone melt it.” Robert Podolsky – Masters in theoretical physics, Physicist /engineer. Systems analyst, Air Force Avionics Lab, Coast Guard electronics —————————————————————–

Law of aerodynamics “”I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11; the Fight number 175 and Flight 93. I don’t believe it’s possible for, like I said, for a terrorist to train on a [Cessna] 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it’s design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns, exceeding — pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G’s. The aircraft would literally fall out of the sky. I couldn’t do it and I’m absolutely positive they couldn’t do it.” Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial pilot. Flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years. Aircraft flown: Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777. 30,000+ total hours flown. ———————————————————– Law of motion/momentum Commander James Clow, MS, U.S. Coast Guard (ret) – Retired U.S. Coast Guard officer “No matter how one views the videos of the Towers and Building 7 collapsing, the laws of physics MUST hold true. If F=ma appears to have been violated (e.g., free-fall collapse of the buildings at nearly 9.8 m/sec/sec), then something is seriously amiss and one must start looking for the “other hand” hidden beneath the table to discover what is really happening” ————————-

Undeniable fact.

Tony B.

Worse that controlled demolition, although that had to be part of it. But steel girders, concrete, human bodies, desks, chairs, toilets, walls, etc. DO NOT TURN INTO DUST ON THE WAY TO THE GROUND with just a controlled demolition. Interesting that those few things without much density, like paper, survived easiest. Particle weapon had to be part of it.

Nod

or nukes. They found bomb radiation, and molten steel underground weeks after the event. Then there is the evidence of the earth shaking as the underground supports were blown out from the towers. Who knows, we wont, because it has been covered up, and the evidence was sent to china the week after.

Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld walked away hands clean. As the banksters promised they would.

Tony B.

I’m happy we agree on something.

Nod

Cannot agree or disagree with the facts m8. That is the problem with Americans and most of the rest of this planet. I will quote an expert.

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

☛ Newsweek: “A Cult of Ignorance” by Isaac Asimov, January 21, 198

AlexanderAmproz

Add this for WW2 http://www.voltairenet.org/article187508.html ==============================

Anglo-American Money Owners Organized World War II

by Valentin Katasonov

To mark the 70th anniversary of the Victory against Nazism, we publish a study of Valentin Katasonov on financing of the NSDAP and the rearmament of the Third Reich. The author deals with new documents that confirm the organization of the Second World War by US and UK Bankers, covered by President Franklin Roosevelt and Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, in the hope of destroying the USSR. This study raises new questions that will be addressed in a future article.

Hjalmar Schacht (left), Hitler’s finance minister, with his close friend Montagu Norman, Governor of the Bank of England from 1920 to 1944. According to documents reveled by the Bank of England in 2012, he Czechoslovak gold was held in London in a sub-account in the name of the Bank for International Settlements, the Basel-based bank for central banks. When the Nazis marched into Prague in March 1939 they immediately sent armed soldiers to the offices of the National Bank. The Czech directors were ordered, on pain of death, to send two transfer requests. The first instructed the BIS to transfer 23.1 metric tons of gold from the Czechoslovak BIS account, held at the Bank of England, to the Reichsbank BIS account, also held at Threadneedle Street. The second order instructed the Bank of England to transfer almost 27 metric tons of gold held in the National Bank of Czechoslovakia’s own name to the BIS’s gold account at the Bank of England.

The war was not unleashed by frenzied Fuhrer who happened to be ruling Germany at the time. WWII is a project created by world oligarchy or Anglo-American “money owners”. Using such instruments as the US Federal Reserve System and the Bank of England they started to prepare for the next world conflict of global scale right after WWI. The USSR was the target.

The Dawes and Young Plans, the creation of Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the Germany’s suspension of reparations payments it had to pay according to Paris Peace Treaty and the acquiescence of Russia’s former allies in this decision, large-scale foreign investments into the economy of Third Reich, the militarization of German economy and the breaches of Paris Treaty provisions – they all were important milestones on the way of preparing the war.

There were key figures behind the plot: the Rockefellers, the Morgans, Lord Montagu Norman (the Governor of the Bank of England), Hjalmar Schacht (President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the Hitler’s government).The strategic plan of Rockefellers and Morgans was to subjugate Europe economically, saturate Germany with foreign investments and credits and make it deliver a crushing blow against the Soviet Russia so that it would be returned into the world capitalist system as a colony.

Montagu Norman (1871 – 1950) played an important role of go-between to keep up a dialogue between American financial circles and Germany’s business leaders. Hjalmar Schacht organized the revival of Germany’s defense sector of economy. The operation conducted by “money owners” was covered up by such politicians as Franklin Roosevelt, Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill. In Germany the plans were carried out by Hitler and Hjalmar Schacht. Some historians say Hjalmar Schacht played a more important role than Hitler. Simply Schacht kept away from spotlight.

The Dawes Plan was an attempt following World War I for the Triple Entente to compromise and collect war reparations debt from Germany. The Dawes Plan (as proposed by the Dawes Committee, chaired by Charles G. Dawes) was an attempt in 1924 to solve the reparations problem, which had bedeviled international politics following World War I and the Treaty of Versailles (France was reluctant to accept it got over 50% of reparations). In 1924-1929 Germany got $2, 5 billion from the United States and $ 1, 5 billion from Great Britain, according to Dawes Plan. In today’s prices the sum is huge, it is equal to $1 trillion of US dollars. Hjalmar Schacht played an active role in the implementation of Dawes Plan. In 1929 he summed up the results, saying that in 5 years Germany got more foreign loans that the United States in the 40 years preceding WWI. As a result, in 1929 Germany became the world’s second largest industrial nation leaving Great Britain behind.

In the 1930s the process of feeding Germany with investments and credits continued. The Young Plan was a program for settling German reparations debts after World War I written in 1929 and formally adopted in 1930. It was presented by the committee headed (1929–30) by American industrialist Owen D. Young, creator and ex-first chairman of Radio Corporation of America (RCA), who, at the time, concurrently served at board of trustees of Rockefeller Foundation, and also had been one of representatives involved in previous war reparations restructuring arrangement – Dawes Plan of 1924. According to the plan, the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) was created in 1930 to make Germany pay reparations to victors. In reality the money flows went in quite a different direction – from the United States and Great Britain to Germany. The majority of strategically important German companies belonged to American capital or were partly under its control. Some of them belonged to British investors. German oil refinery and coal liquefaction sectors of economy belonged to Standard Oil (the Rockefellers). FarbenindustrieAG chemical industry major wasmoved under the control of the Morgan Group. 40% of telephone network and 30% of Focke Wulf shares belonged to American ITT. Radio and AEG, Siemens, Osram electrical industry majors moved under the control of American General Electric. ITT and General Electric were part of the Morgan’s empire. At least 100% of the Volkswagen shares belonged to American Ford. By the time Hitler came to power the US financial capital practically controlled all strategically important sectors of German industry: oil refining, synthetic fuel production, chemistry, car building, aviation, electrical engineering, radio industry, and a large part of machine-building (totally 278 companies). The leading German banks – Deutsche Bank, Dresdner Bank, Donat Bank and some others – were under US control.

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On January 30, 1933 Hitler was named the Chancellor of Germany. Before that his candidacy had been thoroughly studied by American bankers. HjalmarSchacht went to the United States in the autumn of 1930 to discuss the nomination with American colleagues. The Hitler’s appointment was finally approved at a secret meeting of financiers in the United States. He spent the whole 1932 trying to convince the German bankers that Hitler was the right person for the position. He achieved the goal. In mid-November 1932 17 German largest bankers and industrialists sent a letter to President Hindenburg expressing their demand to make Hitler the Chancellor of Germany. The last working meeting of German financiers before the election was held on January 4, 1933 in Kölnat the home of banker Kurt von Schröder. After that the National Socialist Party came to power. As a result, the financial and economic ties of Germany with Anglo-Saxons elevated to a higher level.

Hitler immediately made an announcement that he refused to pay postwar reparations. It put into doubt the ability of England and France to pay off WWI debts to the United States. Washington did not object to the Hitler’s announcement. In May 1933 Hjalmar Schacht paid another visit to the United States. There he met with President Franklin Roosevelt and big bankers to reach a $1 billion credit deal.In June the same year Hjalmar Schacht visited London to hold talks with Montagu Norman. It all went down smoothly. The British agreed to grant a $2 billion loan. The British offered no objections related to the Germany’s decision to suspend debt payments.

Some historians say the American and British bankers were pliant because by 1932 the Soviet Union had fulfilled the 5-year economic development plan to make it achieve new heights as an industrial power. A few thousand enterprises were built, especially in the sector of heavy industry. The dependence of USSR on import of engineering production has greatly dwindled. The chances to strangle the Soviet Union economically were practically reduced to zero. They decided to rely on war and launched the runaway militarization of Germany.

It was easy for Germany to get American credits. By and large, Hitler came to power in his country at the same time as Franklin Roosevelt took office in the United States. The very same bankers who supported Hitler in 1931 supported Roosevelt at the presidential election. The newly elect President could not but endorse large credits to Germany. By the way, many noticed that there was a big similarity between the Roosevelt’s “New Deal Policy” and the economic policy of the German Third Reich. No wonder. The very same people worked out and consulted the both governments at the time. They mainly represented US financial circles.

The Roosevelt’s New Deal soon started to stumble on the way. In 1937 America plunged into the quagmire of economic crisis. In 1939 the US economy operated at 33% of its industrial capacity (it was 19% in the heat of the 1929-1933 crisis).

Rexford G. Tugwell, an economist who became part of Franklin Roosevelt’s first “Brain, a group of Columbia University academics who helped develop policy recommendations leading up to Roosevelt’s New Deal,wrote that in 1939 the government failed to reach any success.There was an open seatill the day Hitler invaded Poland.Only the mighty wind of war could dissipate the fog. Any other measures Roosevelt could take were doomed to failure. [1] Only the world war could save the US capitalism. In 1939 the money owners used all leverage at their disposal to put pressure of Hitler and make him unleash a big war in the east.

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The Bank of International Settlements (BIS) played an important role during the Second World War. It was created as an outpost of American interests in Europe and a link between Anglo-American and German businesses, a kind of offshore zone for cosmopolitan capital providing a shelter from political processes, wars, sanctions and other things. The Bank was created as a public commercial entity, it’s immunity from government interference and such things as taxes collection was guaranteed by international agreement signed in the Hague in 1930.

The bankers of Federal Reserve Bank of New York, who were close to the Morgans, Montagu Norman, the Governor of the Bank of England, German financiers: Hjalmar Schacht (President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the Hitler’s government), Walther Funk (who later replaced Hjalmar Schacht as President of the Reichsbank) and EmilPuhl – all of them played an important role in the efforts to establish the Bank. The central banks of Great Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Belgium and some private banks were among the founders. The Federal Bank of New York did its best to establish the BIS, but it was not listed as a founder. The US was represented by the private First National Bank of New York, J.P. Morgan and Company, the First National Bank of Chicago – all parts of the Morgan’s empire. Japan was also represented by private banks. In 1931-1932 19 European central banks joined the Bank of International Settlements. Gates W. McGarrah, a banker of Rockefeller’s clan, was the first BIS chairman of the board. He was replaced by Leon Fraser, who represented the clan of Morgans. US citizen Thomas H. McKittrick was President of the Bankduring the war years.

A lot has already been written about the BIS activities serving the interests of Third Reich. The Bank was involved in deals with different countries, including those Germany was at war with. Ever since Pearl Harbor the Bank of International Settlements has been a correspondent bank for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It was under Nazi control during the war years, no matter American Thomas Huntington McKittrick was the Bank’s President. Soldiers were dying on the battlefields while the leadership of BIS held meetings in Basel with the bankers of Germany, Japan, Italy, Belgium, Great Britain and the United States. There, in the Swiss offshore zone, it was all peaceful, the representatives of belligerents quietly worked in the atmosphere of mutual understanding.

Switzerland became the place where gold seized by Germany in different corners of Europe was transported to for storage. In the March of 1938, when Hitler captured Vienna, part of Austrian gold was transferred to BIS vaults. The same thing happened with the gold of Czech National Bank (48 million USD). As the war started, the flows of gold poured into the Bank of International Settlements. Germany got it from concentration camps and as a result of plundering the wealth of occupied countries (including whatever belonged to civilians: jewels, gold crowns, cigarette cases, utensils…). It was called the Nazi Gold. The metal was processed into ingots to be stored in the Bank of International Settlements, Switzerland, or outside Europe. Charles Higham in his Trading With The Enemy: An Expose of The Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949 wrote that during the war Nazi transferred $378 million into the accounts of Bank of International Settlements.

A few words about the Czech gold. The details surfaced when after the Bank of England’s archives were declassified in 2012. [2] In the March of 1939 Germany captured Prague. Nazi demanded $48 million of national gold reserves. They were told that the sum had already been transferred to the Bank of International Settlements. Later it became known that the gold was transferred from Basel to the vaults of Bank of England. Upon the command from Berlin the gold was transferred to the ReichsbankBIS account. Then the Bank of England was involved in transactions done upon the orders of Reichsbank given to the Bank of International settlements. The commands were retransmitted to London. There was collusion between German Reichsbank, the Bank of International Settlements and the Bank of England. In 1939 a scandal broke out in Great Britain because the Bank of England executed the transactions with Czech gold upon the commands coming from Berlin and Basel, not the Czech government. For instance, in the June of 1939, three months before the war between Great Britain and Germany started, the Bank of England helped Germans to get into their accounts the amount of gold equal to 440 thousand pounds sterling and transfer some gold to New York (Germany was sure that in case of German intervention into Poland the United States would not declare war).

The illegal transactions with Czech gold were implemented with tacit approval of the government of Great Britain which was aware of what was going on. Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, Chancellor of the Exchequer Sir John Simon and other top officials did their best to hide the truth, including outright lies (the gold was returned to the lawful owner or had never been transferred to Reichsbank). The recently declassified materials of Bank of England reveal the truth and show that the government officials lied to cover up themselves and the activities of the Bank of England and the Bank of International Settlements. It was easy to coordinate the joint criminal activities because Montagu Norman, the head of Bank of England, served as the chairman of the board of Bank of International Settlements. He never made secret of his sympathy for fascists.

The Bretton Woods Conference, formally known as the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference, was the gathering of 730 delegates from all 44 allied nations at the Mount Washington Hotel situated in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, the United States, to regulate the international monetary and financial order after the conclusion of World War II. The conference was held from 1 to 22 July 1944. All of a sudden the issue of the Bank of International Settlements hit the agenda. It was reported that the bank collaborated with fascist Germany. Leaving many details aside, I’d only mention that with great difficulty (some US delegates opposed the motion) the delegates reached an agreement to close the BIS. The decision of international conference has never been enacted. All the discreditable information related to the BIS wartime activities was classified. Today it helps to falsify the history of the Second World War.

Finally, a few words about Hjalmar Schacht (1877-1970) who served as President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the fascist Germany’s government. He was a key figure controlling the economic machine of Third Reich, an extraordinary and plenipotentiaryambassador representing Anglo-American capital in Germany. In 1945 Schacht was tried at Nuremberg to be acquitted on October 1, 1946. He got away with murder. The same way it happened to Hitler. For some unexplained reasons he was not in the 1945 leading wartime criminals list. More to it, Schacht returned to his profession like if nothing happened and founded Schacht GmbH in Düsseldorf. This detail may go unnoticed, though it serves as another testimony to the fact that Anglo-American “money owners” and their plenipotentiary representatives in Germany prepared and, to some extent, influenced the outcome of the Second World War. The “money owners” want to rewrite the history of the war and change its results.

Valentin Katasonov

Source

[1] P.Tugwell, The Democratic Roosevelt, A Biography of Franklin D. Roosevelt, New York, 1957, p 477.

[2] http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/arch…

Tony B.

Uh, more than stupid comment. Most Americans in the military are there for a roof over their heads because THERE ARE NO JOBS FOR THEM. The illegal aliens in the U.S. military, a constantly higher percentage, are there because they have been promised citizenship after serving a period of time. People today are serving themselves. You won’t find many who are the fifth grader, gung ho, flag waver like you “serving their country.” Their country is cheating them every way possible, they don’t give a hoot about it other than what they can steal back. The truth is that most had that attitude in all the wars of last century too.

Tony B.

Not just “the rich.” Anything evil ALWAYS comes back to the Rothschild cabal. Do the research and you will confirm this to yourself. Getting rich these days means prostituting yourself to the cabal.

javier

ez killer not eveyone here is horrible

john

The love of murdering and killing humanity is set into their national anthem . . . “and the rockets red flairs, the bombs bursting in the air” . . .It is no wonder that that are what they have become. You are right, Nigel, my very sentiments also. I pray that the Zionist bastards and their lackeys, the USA, get what they deserve. The boomerang is on the way back.

Larissa Vanderbilt

It always amazes me that a country that used massive chemical weapons on a small country in Indochina (Agent Orange etc) can get so self-righteous about other nations developing so-called chemical weapons and the only country to use nuclear weapons against civilian demographics can get so judgemental of other countries who are trying to develop them for self-defence..

AmPatriotSmith

It’s obvious you know nothing of our involvement in World War Il and why we bombed Japan. Japan started it and we ended it; it’s that simple. They refused to surrender and we averted a full scale invasion of the Japanese homeland; that’s why we dropped the bomb. Today Japan has a full functioning democratic society because we rebuilt their country instead of taking over their country. It was Japan that went into China and Manchuria and slaughtered their people before we got involved.

Tony B.

You believe the standard DC lies. 1. Roosevelt started it by forcing Japan to attack us as he stopped up their crucial fuel supplies. He knew they were then coming at Pearl and refused to tell the military on the island. He needed the gore to get Americans to agree to get in a war that had nothing to do with the U.S. The reason he did this was because a pact had been made between the administration and perfidious Britain to get the U.S. into the war to bail out wimpy Britain’s sorry asses after they started the war against Germany against whom they could not compete economically. 2. Japan tried to surrender for months before the A-bombs but the DC controllers wanted absolutely unconditional groveling. The result was that the Rockefellers bought conquered Japan for pennies on the dollar and have owned it ever since. Ever heard of SONY? Standard Oil of New York.

AmPatriotSmith

Wow! What garbage. You are totally brainwashed. We put an oil embargo on Japan. You might want to ask yourself why? So, I’ll have to tell you because you’re so uninformed. I suppose you think Japan was an innocent bystander to US putting an oil embargo on them because in your mind we are just imperialists that wanted to dictate to Japan? I know that’s how you leftists think because you’re brainwashed. JAPAN WAS AN AGGRESSOR WHO STOLE THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF HER ASIAN NEIGHBORS BECAUSE JAPAN POSSESSED NO NATURAL RESOURCES OF HER OWN SO SHE AGGRESSIVELY INVADED CHINA, SINGAPORE. JAPAN WATCHED AS HITLER EXPANDED HIS ILLEGITIMATE TAKEOVER OF EUROPE AND ALSO HAD EXPANSIONIST AMBITIONS OF HER OWN. WE STOPPED JAPAN AFTER THE BOMBING OF OUR FLEET AT PEARL HARBOR. YOUR INFO ON THE OLD JAPANESE EMPIRE IS SO WRONG. JAPAN HAD NO INTENTION OF SURRENDERING BECAUSE AT THAT TIME THEIR PRIDE AND SAVING FACE WAS PART OF THE CULTURE OF THE EMPIRE. THROUGH THAT MENTALITY THE DIVINE WIND OR KAMIKAZE WAS BORN

Tony B.

You are completely without an actual knowledge of how the world works and for whom. Grow up and learn a few FACTS concerning those who run the world and the REAL reasons they do what they do. Your flag waving is juvenile nonsense. I made no statements at all about what Japan was doing in Asia but what the U.S. was doing to Japan, which has no connection whatsoever. If you think the Roosevelt administration gave a slight care what was happening in Asia you are clueless. You can chalk it up to mis-education but as an adult you have to understand that real history is never that put out by “authorities” and made into a mantra by the kept media, especially concerning wars. It’s never about “people,” it’s ALWAYS about money and the power money can bring. Every last person who knows me would laugh you into the ocean using the word “leftist” to describe me. In fact, you have no clue as to what constitutes a leftist, or a rightist, for that matter. Forget these fake divisions and learn about your real enemy in this world, do an honest study of the Rothschild cabal in its wholly owned City of London. The enemy of everyone else living, no matter what label you foolishly pin on them. It’s called “divide and conquer.”

AmPatriotSmith

We were discussing Japan and the US in World War II, not the cabal of the Rothschild family. YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHY DID THE US PUT AN OIL EMBARGO ON JAPAN? YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT EXISTED IN A VACUUM. JAPAN AT THAT TIME ADMIRED THE OLD COLONIALIST EMPIRES AND WANTED TO EXTEND THEIR EMPIRE. THEY SUBJUGATED THE CHINESE AND WENT INTO MANCHURIA. THEY TOOK OVER SINGAPORE. THEIR AMBITION WAS TO CONTROL THE PACIFIC AND TAKE THE NATURAL RESOURCES TO FUND THEIR WAR MACHINE. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE ROTHSCHILD FAMILY IS BEYOND ME. IT WAS ABOUT POWER AND MONEY BUT JAPAN’S AMBITIONS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROTHSCHILD FAMILY. AND AS FAR AS YOU BEING A LEFTIST, I DON’T KNOW YOU PERSONALLY, BUT JUDGING BY YOUR ANTI- AMERICAN VIEWS, I SUSPECT YOU’RE A COMMUNIST.

Tony B.

You are a very narrow tunnel vision waste of time without a single clue as to ANYTHING going on in the world. Someday learn the difference between CAUSE and SYMPTOM. Then you might know how to comment with people in a calm enough way to use lower case. Obviously you are a self-important ignoramus as you just have to put everyone who does not agree with you in SOME category distasteful to you. Goodby, come again IF you grow up.

anonim

Historians still debate whether Japan surrendered because of the second bomb or because in the meantime Stalin invaded Manchuria. Conventional bombing did a lot more damage than the atomic one. There were almost no more inhabited cities to drop bombs on. The meeting for surrendering was called before the drop of the second bomb. They were asking for surrender before the first bomb. All they wanted was to keep the Emperor safe. US never killed the Emperor so the atomic bombs made no sense. Maybe they wanted to scare commies, but to their disappointment, one diplomat wrote after Yalta: “they are stubborn, obstinate and don’t scare”. After fighting Hitler they didn’t care much about a lousy bomb. So no gain here either. Of course the US paid historians aren’t allowed to say US committed a war crime. That’s why it’s still debated.

AmPatriotSmith

That isn’t true, unfortunately, Nagasaki and Hiroshima were occupied and unfortunately many were killed. The Japanese wanted US not to eliminate their emperor AFTER the surrender and we did not because we wanted their cooperation during the occupation.

anonim

Read my post again, maybe you’ll learn something.

Nod

what a load of hooey.

Fight was already over, didn’t need to nuke. We did just to see what would happen.

fully functioning democratic nations have not existed for many years, if ever.

Certainly the fascism in control right now is not democracy. After Fukishima, the Japanese people wanted an end to nuclear power, given they live over top of a few tectonic plates. Didn’t happen. Money power rules, and you are delusional if you think you live in a democracy.

Nod

“who are trying to develop them for self-defence..”

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“A new consciousness is developing which sees the earth as a single organism and recognizes that an organism at war with itself is doomed. We are one planet. One of the great revelations of the age of space exploration is the image of the earth finite and lonely, somehow vulnerable, bearing the entire human species through the oceans of space and time.”

Carl Sagan

inequality causes all of the harm on our planet. In many different ways.

AmPatriotSmith

I can see that you’re very informed by what you just said above. IT IS UNTRUE WHAT YOU SAID IN REGARDS TO JAPAN DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR. THEY REFUSED TO SURRENDER AND THAT IN ORDER TO AVERT AN INVASION OF THE JAPANESE HOMELAND, WE DROPPED THE ATOM BOMB.[WE KNEW THAT AN INVASION OF THE JAPANESE HOMELAND WOULD ENTAIL AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF AMERICAN DEATHS AND JAPANESE DEATHS FOR THAT MATTER] THAT IS THE EXACT TRUTH. READ LEGITIMATE HISTORY AND NOT CONSPIRACY THEORIES ONLINE. And what are you trying to say about fascism? So, you think Japan is a fascist country too? The old Japanese Empire might have been fascist, but I don’t see that they are that way today. You leftists seem to be against anyone that makes money. Well, I have news for you, money does make the world go around

Nod

All countries are now fascist states. Those we bomb back to the stone ages, soon will be. If you understand your monetary system, you would understand how. The RICH dictate the shots. This is why you are killing yourself with fluoride in your water. That is why the same guys own 80% of the corporations on the planet, most of the governments, and most all of the wealth. There is no other definition that fits, except for fascism. Only a moron, doesn’t see that. Are you a moron

Japan is as fascist as the rest of the countries calling themselves civilized these days. Including most definitely, the USA.

Money does not make the world go around, it only allows for hoarding or resources. Your so called news, is ignorance pretending to be fact.

You keep throwing labels at me, hoping to dismiss everything I say, because you are programmed to hate lefties. I dont play at political stupidity.

Larissa Vanderbilt

There are aspects of the buildup to Pearl Harbor that you are not possibly aware of buddy. For instance, the economic war that the US waged against Japan in the 1930’s, partly as a result of japan’s invasion of Manchuria and partly because, like Germany was to Britain in WW1, Japan was a serious competitor. Other “Acts of War” were the cutting off of steel and oil supplies to Japan, an act which, had it been done to the United States by any other country, would have been casus belli for a military strike against the perpetrator. Then there was the closing of the Panama Canal to Japanese merchant shipping, a move which, had another country done to America, would have been grounds for war (In fact, Egypt did do it 1956 and was subsequently invaded by Britain and France). It’s true that Japan took the first step in an overt military attack on the US, but we started it by imposing economic war on them first, using the invasion of Manchuria as a pretext. If you are going to study about WW2, then I seriously suggest you study it in depth. You may be surprised to see just how much of your knowledge database has been implanted by the “Victors” . .

AmPatriotSmith

You just said it yourself “buddy” — Japan invaded Manchuria. That shows you – buddy- why we put an economic embargo on Japan because they had invaded their Asian neighbors. THE JAPANESE NEVER HAD ANY RAW MATERIALS OF THEIR OWN SO THAT’S WHY THEY INVADED OTHER COUNTRIES AND THAT WAS TO FUEL THEIR AMBITIONS OF EXPANDING THEIR EMPIRE.

Larissa Vanderbilt

I completely agree that what Japan did was wrong. I’m not defending Japan. But we here in the US also invaded other nations, or territories. Texas and California would be cases in point. We also invaded Cuba after the hideous Casus Belli of the USS Maine in Havana harbor. We then fought a war with the Phillipines to grab off that place to use as a naval base and to exploit their resources. We invaded Vietnam to support a dictator (Diem) who was worse than Hitler. We invaded and supported invasions of Afghanistan by the Tajiks, Uzbeks and Hazaras(Northern Alliance) in 2001 and invaded Iraq in 2003 at the overpowering behest of our Israeli overlords. I agree that what Japan did was wrong, but I’m only trying to point out the hypocrisy of our position on these issues. We willingly went to war to save Britain and the Jews of Europe, in spite of the fact that most Americans pre-Pearl Harbor absolutely did not want to get involved in another European war. It took Franklin D. Rosenfelt’s chicanery and deception to get us into the war and the unnecessary deaths of our young soldiers was the end result. We helped destroy the only country in Europe that could have helped us defeat the communists. That’s the real tragedy . .

AmPatriotSmith

Look, Larissa, we made plenty of mistakes. The Philippines was 100 years ago and I’m well aware of the mistakes in Vietnam, Iraq and Libya, but so have other countries. Read about the ruthlessness of Stalin, the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, not to mention Hitler and how communism destroyed many countries with ruthless dictators in Latin America, such as Cuba and Venezuela comes to mind. If you think the US is such a bad country, then my solution is for you to leave if you’re American.

Larissa Vanderbilt

I wasn’t saying that the US is a bad country, only that we are not in a position to judge other nations. There is a fine difference. And if everyone who disagrees with government decisions has to leave the country for any kind of solution, then we are not much different from the former USSR, Communist Vietnam or Cuba. The issue is hypocrisy buddy. Don’t get too simplistic …

AmPatriotSmith

You and everyone else posting on her do not just disagree with our government, but you seem to hate everything the country stands for. I can disagree with my government with my government, but still love my country.

john

Larissa, you are so right. Its arrogance, self righteousness, and cruelty are beyond belief to a fair minded, normal person. They slaughtered 4 million civilians in Vietnam, the same number in North Korea, and millions in other lands–mostly children and women. There is a great sickness in the mindset of American politicians. It defies explanation, other than they love war and killing. Yes, the use of Agent Orange is but mind boggling, not to mention the millions of land mines that were planted, and many still active in Vietnam, Cambodia,Laos, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria . . . still maiming and killing innocent people. The evil that is in the core of this nation’s politicians is beyond belief. But we must remember, there is no profit for warmongers in peace . . .

wwinsti

Keep in mind that US politicians are controlled with blackmail and other schemes. There is mental illness to be sure, but politicians unwilling to commit crimes in the US are deprived of funding and political support. It’s as if anyone near a center of power has to undergo what is essentially a gang initiation in order to receive support or resources. The recent sex scandal storm sweeping the US is symptomatic of a far deadlier disease, I have yet to determine if it is an attempted purge, a deep state civil war, or just an attempt to provide the most powerful players with some sort of PR/normalization cover, as in *if everyone is in a sex scandal, then their are no sex scandals.*

AmPatriotSmith

The problem is that because we are such an open society and news travels faster than ever, you think the United States is the only country that has problems. You never hear to much about others countries’ issues because they have closed societies. I suppose you think NK has a higher moral standard.

wwinsti

What statement have I made that leads you to say that I think NK “has a higher moral standard”? The US is controlled because it has far more power than any other gov. Not because it is “less moral”.

AmPatriotSmith

You can’t figure that one out? YOU JUST FINISHED STATING WHAT DISEASED PEOPLE WE ARE WITH ALL THE SCANDALS YOU HEAR ABOUT. SO I ASKED YOU WHETHER YOU THINK NK HAS A HIGHER MORAL STANDARD SINCE YOU ONLY SEEM TO BE AWARE OF OUR TROUBLES.

Tony B.

What amazes me is how Brits, who stole and murdered their way around the world for centuries until their little hole island could no longer steal from the world are now so self-righteous concerning the U.S., one of their colonies which has not to this day completely escaped the perfidious Brits.

AmPatriotSmith

Hey, John you’re wrong about the National Anthem. It isn’t about glorifying war at all. It’s about Francis Scott Keye’s observation of our flag still there after the British bombed Ft. McHenry during the War of 1812. The British had the ambition of controlling and subduing our country.

john

Yes, for sure, you are correct. I loved your national anthem and even sung it on a number of occasions when I was younger. I Agree with what you say about its history. But the bottom line is the excitement of seeing rockets and bombs splattering humanity apart and glorifying war–the hero myth nonsense. The French anthem really beats the biscuit. There are a couple of lines about the enemy’s blood filling and flowing through the plowed furrows of the fields of France. Really gory stuff. My own national anthem, the Irish one is not far behind— “mid cannon roar and rifle peel we’ll destroy our foes”, who of course, as I am sure you are aware, were the British . . . they seemed to be everywhere.lol I am really hitting at how we are affected as human beings by such gory descriptiveness and how easily it is accepted into mainstream thinking. It really does not say much for our development as humans as we embrace such “lyrical slaughter”. We have such a long way to go. As someone wrote here: . . . the aliens came and looked for intelligence but found none and just kept on trucking . . . Merry Christmas to you and all fair minded people

AmPatriotSmith

Oh my god, how you rattle on and on. I’LL REPEAT – THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IS NOT AT ALL ABOUT GLORIFYING WAR. WHAT A STUPID ANALOGY!

AmPatriotSmith

You better pray that the United States is there to bail your asses out

Nod

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

☛ Newsweek: “A Cult of Ignorance” by Isaac Asimov, January 21, 1980,

AmPatriotSmith

Oh yeah, Isaac sounds like a Russian communist to me; but of course, all of you lefties are enamored with communism.

Nod

You babble more ignorance as knowledge. I am not stupid enough to give my brain over to party lines and party speak. I am not left, nor right, and nor do your labels define me. I am certainly not stupid enough to run to the polls and vote for assholes who are appointed by the rich. Clearly you are.

COMMON SENSE HAS TOLD ANYONE WITH A 3 DIGIT IQ THE TRUTH OF THIS, LONG AGO.

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.”

Gilens, M., & Page, B. I. (2014). Testing theories of American politics: Elites, interest groups, and average citizens. Perspectives on Politics, 12(3), 564-581. DOI: 10.1017/S1537592714001595

And Asimov, is intellectual,. while clearly, you are a redneck from butt HOLE USA.

As top communism, perhaps you can stop prattling on with the last centuries brain washing about communism, and call me something more current.

btw, Patriotism is a mental disorder. One which takes away your ability for free and independent thinking.

Tony B.

Every one of your statements is more or less true. Just one overlooked item. ALL of it is orchestrated directly out of England’s City of London’s Rothschild cabal and it’s other slave, Israel. You know, the outfit that turned proud Britain into a pile of tissue paper.

osazeone

The American People are not Vested in the American Military Adventures World-Wide! They Are Preoccupied with their gadgets aka iPhones, BMWs, working 9-5, Celebrity TV and PlayStations. But when the bombs, planes and missiles fly West the Game will be over and the American People will be Vested into the Military Industrial Complex Adventure….

AmPatriotSmith

And so is the rest of the world preoccupied with their gadgets.

leon mc pilibin

Another warmongering Zionist lunatic, why don’t the American people put an end to these satanic scumbags?

Promitheas Apollonious

Slaves and clones of a system that created them, with very few exceptions to this rule. Think about it. evangelists are the main power that vote for president since they account for almost if not more 60% of the vote and they vote as one religiously and not as a political group. They fanatically believe that the khazars pretending to be jews are the chosen children of their god and they exist to serve them and give their life for their gods chosen children.

USA it is a colony of City Of London and that absolutely bastardized population in it and I do not speak racist here but as a geneticist, they manage to create in that colony the perfect most un patriotic thinking individuals as they themselves dont feel to belong any where. Even their alleged country they are strangers that will never belong.

So i hope this give you an answer to why the zionists running their colony and what they use to achieve that. Religion and money.

Long version to get an idea who hold the decisive vote as to who run the country think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy_u4U7-cn8

short version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

SG

Revelations 2:9 & 3:9

“I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” — King James Bible (Old English)

“Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”

http://biblehub.com/revelation/2-9.htm

http://biblehub.com/revelation/3-9.htm

Vince Dhimos

Because the American people are imbued with the Satanic cult idea of Zionism. The really bad news is that the Deep State is supported by what I call the Shallow State, ie, Americans who think that support for Israel is God’s will. To understand this, please read the latest commentary “Jesus’ message to “Christian” Zionists” in the category News and Analysis at http://www.newsilkstrategies.com.

AmPatriotSmith

Not all Americans feel that way; maybe the Evangelists do, but I don’t necessarily believe in prophesy.

peter

US general says,3000 ,during 24 hours?Russian Federation claims 35 000 during during 48 hours !How stupid are juesej,where they are living..on the Mars ?

Jim Prendergast

All NATO forces are canon-fodder. Reasons for escalation.

Nigel Maund

Let’s hope that if there is a war NATO are very quickly wiped out!

peter

We Slavs are opposite stupid USA!

Promitheas Apollonious

not only you slavs, but I am sure or the thinking humans left on this planet are against not stupid usa that is nothing but colony of NWO, but all who stand for NWO and their masters. It is time for the world to understand is them and then is us and if we want to live in peace they must become extinct, no matter what nationality they claim to have.

Ronald

The Truth , they can not bear that the people are learning the Truth . “Using information tools , to interfere with other nations internal policy , and crosses border agression ” Yes Vince Dhimos , we are on the front lines . Godspeed !

Joe

I pity these front line soldiers and states. When war starts, most likely they will be dead and the states destroyed first.

In the end who wins or loses , these front liners will be the losers.

Funny the general talked about Ukraine as examples forgetting to say who started the conflict in both countries.

They were the ones who started them both

Graeme Rymill

Marine General Neller didn’t talk about the Ukraine. The recently released US National Security Strategy did.

Promitheas Apollonious

yes SOB war is coming for you and you will find all civilized world against you, only when they do come against you, will not be civilized any more and you will not enjoy it, because for some of you, will be very slow and painful.

Leon De Elias

The whole World just showed what they think about the US,what is nothing good..Lying aggressive Hypocrite mfers..

Not even us westerners trusting them Yanks anymore..

Jim Prendergast

A bigass fight, an informational fight. This is a display, raise the hackles, spread the wings, bear the teeth and bark. Algunos perros ladran, algunos perros muerden.

Melotte 22

2 Iskander M rockets and your 300 marines are toast. Just go home retard and leave Europe in peace.

Nod

How do you expect peace when you are a slave to debt pray tell…

cortisol

Ignore posturing in Norway. They can’t do anything and are irrelevant tactically even if they come across the border. Russia needs to do what it can, where it matters and give LPR/DPR means to crush the CIA ukronazis and further arm more independence movements in Ukraine. This will not cause any major war and there is still a high chance of sending some ‘muricans packing in body bags.

Toni Liu

Just let they taste another vietnam again in donbass

gl_ben

the power of propaganda – say it enough times & Santa Neller will make it come true for you – when half the world ain’t interested in your Empire anymore, try the other’s half-arse war to end y’all’s misery

MeMadMax

“I hope I’m wrong, but I hope there’s a war coming, because the only true enemy for a marine is peace”

There, it fixed it for ya.

nshah

“I hope I’m wrong, but there’s a war coming,” We’re not surprised at all..! That’s what America() do best..! Bring it on yanks..! This time you will be running like dogs with tail between legs..! (not to insult dogs) ?

Real Anti-Racist Action

As I recall it was Norwegians living high and mighty in London who financed the Red Revolution inside of Russia. Each time the Russian patriots almost beat the Red-beast back, the rich Norwegians threw more money for the Red-beast. It was these rich Norwegians who interfered in Russian internal affairs and made sure that ten’s of millions of ethnic-Russians of Christians religion would be genocided. Seem’s Norwegians always get away with murder then try to act innocent. These are the enemies of humanity.

SG

Actually various Jews, from aristocratic Jews to Jewish bankers and Zionists, had provided enormous financial support to the Jewish-led Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and the subsequent Jewish-led Bolshevik Revolutions in Hungary (successful, lasting no more than 2 years), Germany (failed, was instrumental in Hitler developing antisemitic sentiment), and USA (also failed).

Khazar and Ashkenazim Jews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AIKQHO0esk&t=1s

Vladimir Putin: 80-85% of the Bolshevik Revolution were Jews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELXx6pwAKis

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/90e3324cff5dd62cd50b3183b4ee3b66a0eeb0825226904b56736b3d128a3ac2.jpg

Nod

Wake the eff up, and stop blaming the slaves in the USA for the actions of all our masters. USA is just the military muscle, and economic muscle supported by the INTERNATIONAL petro dollar. You are just as much to blame, every time you take a loan, or use a credit card, or vote for appointed asshats, you directly support the banksters ponzi scheme, and so you support the globalism which is raping the planet.

Remember, balkanization and destabilization are also actions in support of globalism..

Easy to find a scape goat so you feel better about yourself, but it is bullsh1t. Man up. Stop blaming, start stopping.

“Some even believe we [Rockefeller family] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – One World, if you will.If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it ”

| David Rockefeller | ( see trade deals removing sovereignty,immigration, imperialism, and the power of inequality, as the effort “to build a more integrated global political and economic structure”)

And the POWER comes from money created out of nothing, and loaned to people and governments, with interest. And the power is unassailable as long as we submit to the scam called modern banking.

“In the modern economy, most money takes the form of bank deposits. But how those bank deposits are created is often misunderstood: the principal way is through commercial banks making loans. Whenever a bank makes a loan, it simultaneously creates a matching deposit in the borrower’s bank account, thereby creating new money”

http://www.bankofengland.co… “

Stop blaming people for the corrupt nature of our way of life.

Johnpd

Exactly correct, thanks.

as

In which cases the slaves has to pardon themselves from their services and to start doing what it should to free themselves off their psychopathic masters.

Omega

The US will not start a war. The US will execute the order of starting another war from those who own and run its “Federal”Reserve.

John Brown

This general is an idiotic fool any such war will have the USSA mainland targeted not Norway. Maybe he is in Norway to hide out from any such war while the missiles fly overhead

AmPatriotSmith

You Europeans think the United States is the enemy, but what are Russia and China doing? You think they’re innocent in regards to world conflict. Quite a bit of people have been killed by Russian meddling in Ukraine; and what about China’s building of “sovereign territory” in the South China Sea? While the US “slept” under the Obama administration, both Russia and China have expanded their influence in the ME and Far East.

I can understand why you people say what you say about the United States and that is because of our preemptive military actions we have taken around the world. Preemption never served the United States well and it definitely will not if we attack NK,.

Omega

The British-Zionist USA is the enemy of the entire planet; not just Europe.

ALAFF

“While the US “slept” under the Obama administration, both Russia and China have expanded their influence in the ME and Far East.”

Oh, SO wrong. You don’t even understand the reasons of events. You think that “Russia and China have expanded their influence in the ME and Far East” just because “the US “slept” under the Obama administration” ? But it’s NOT the reason. The reason is WHAT the US did in ME region. And so Russia was forced to answer.

Syrian events. Russia take part in this events (btw, absolutely legal unlike the US), and as a result ISIS destroyed and Russia’s influence is expanded in the region. BUT would it happen if there would be no Syrian events? I mean, if the attempts of the “colour revolution” would not happen in Syria? Who tried to overthrow Bashar al-Assad? You think the US have nothing to do with it? The riots in Syria and attempts to overthrow the government of Assad simply happened by themselves, spontaneously, just like that. You really think so? Or maybe the US (as well as some countries in the region, like Qatar, KSA, Turkey…) have been interested in overthrowing Assad and they made an effort for it?

All is simple. If there would be no attempts to overthrow Assad – there would be no participation of Russia in the events, which means there would be no the Victory over terrorism, which means there would be no expanded influence of Russia in the region. If you want to blame somebody then you should blame US government for their short-sighted policy in ME region.

The same with Ukraine & Crimea. If the West wouldn’t organize & support & accept the anti-constitutional coup d’état in Ukraine (that resulted in having now a sharply anti-Russian authorities, in fact a Nazi regime who kill their own people in Donbass), then Crimea would not desire to became a part of Russia and it still would be a part of Ukraine, then Donbass region would not declare its independence.

All things and events are interrelated. From the West it was very naive and stupid to assume that Russia would not respond in any way to West’s hostile actions (especially concerning Ukraine).

You said “Quite a bit of people have been killed by Russian meddling in Ukraine”. But the thing is that this “meddling” – a fake and a lie for those who do not really want to understand the situation.

Icarus Tanović

Yes, you are, enenmy of entire humanity.

AmPatriotSmith

How dare you say that to me. Look, Tanovic, I think you’re a Russian or a Serb. The Russians are big meddlers themselves. They want to expand the old Soviet Empire; that’s their goal.

Icarus Tanović

Yo man, give me a break. I’m Bosnian.

Jaime Galarza

This general is trying to scare Russia. He thinks he is dealing with Grenada.

Icarus Tanović

Good point! Ain’t gonna to work. ?

AmPatriotSmith

I think the reason why he said something like that was because he wants US troops to be prepared which they should be anyway. I can see this article has brought out every anti-American online

Jaime Galarza

When you have a country that has over 700 bases around the world and has invaded and destroyed several nations, it is very difficult to look at it in a positive light.

AmPatriotSmith

The hatred of the Jews by the rest of the world is the chief reason for all the hatred that you people spew about America; however, none of you mention about the advancement of Iranian meddling in the ME and the conflicts they are stimulating.

Omega

I can almost hear the violin playing Schindler’s List theme music in the background.

Iranian meddling you say. What do you make of Saudi Arabia? Who, using its vast oil wealth, has quietly spread its ultra-conservative brand of Islam throughout the Muslim world, secretly undermined secular regimes in its region and prudently kept to the shadows, while others did the fighting and dying, that fueled the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, underwrote Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Iran, and bankrolled Islamic movements and terrorist groups from the Caucuses to Hindu Kush?

As far as America is concerned, it’s in the hands of the same people who created and run IsraHell – the ruling class of the British Empire. The “Jews” are nothing but duped pawns.

chris chuba

Iran 1. Defending Iraq against ISIS. 2. Defending Syria against ISIS / Al Qaeda 3. Defending Lebanon against ISIS / Al Qaeda and deterring Israeli invasion.

So where is the Iranian aggression?

Icarus Tanović

He talks nonsense, Iran, is stabilizing factor in ME. AND IDIOTS KNOWS THAT.

AmPatriotSmith

Chris, the Iranians only fought ISIS because they are primarily Sunni. Their idea is to spread their influence in the ME; just look at how they have meddled in Yemen. Their idea is to resurrect the Persian empire and that is what Saudi Arabia is alarmed about.

ALAFF

I can’t say for the whole World. Maybe they don’t like America because of Jews. I don’t know. I can say only for Russia. Russia don’t like America just because of WHAT America do in the World, and because of WHAT America do against Russia. There’s nothing about Jews.

Can you imagine that some country will have an official law(!) concerning the situation in another country?? For example, France will have some law concerning situation in, hmm… for example, in Australia. Or Brazil will have official law concerning situation in, i don’t know… for example, in Germany. This is absolutely impossible to imagine. This is ridiculous. BUT! The US have(!) such a law(!), i don’t remember how it’s named exactly, something like “the law on Democracy in Russia”! (Russian Democracy Act of 2002, H.R. 2121).

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/107/hr2121

Unbelievable. Btw, what about non-interference in the internal affairs of the state? All is OK? The US have a law(!) that designed to monitor and regulate the situation with “democracy” in Russia! Sure this is not the interference in the internal affairs of the state, hah. Hehe, would be funny if Putin would sign, for example, a law about “the human rights situation in America”. I would like to see how US will react and would they love Russia after that or no.

The main thing that causes extreme refusal is this US’ preposterous attempts to “teach life” for everybody, you know. US is the last country who can teach Russia (and many other countries too) a life. This is ridiculous. How long the US on the World map? Just two-three centuries? And they try to teach life Russia – the country who exist for over 1000 years (it’s only “orthodox period”, after christening of Russia in the year of 988. But if we consider “paganism period” – the history of Russia would be 1500-2000 years…). This is not a joke, this means a lot. You must be smart enought to still exist after such a long time. You must be brave enough to still exist after such a long time. You must be strong enough to still exist after such a long time.

Russia did great things and was a great empire when the United States did not even exist on the World map. Russia is a country with a great and complex history. And Russia is VERY experienced country. We saw a lot. The US do not have such an experience of life. The wars means a lot, and wars give the nation the unique experience. Russia passed through MANY wars – big or small wars. And still exist. The US has no such experience. No one has ever attacked the US territory, no one has ever bombed American cities, no one has ever fired tanks on American cities, no one has ever massively shot American citizens in America, no one has ever arrange a blockade on US citizen like it was in Leningrad where russian people were eating the earth and human flesh only to survive. And so on and so on…

All these terrifying events teach a lot. They form a special world view. US don’t have such experience, and maybe that’s why they behave in the World so carelessly, aggressively, shamelessly, not caring about the consequences of their doings.

Thank God all these troubles and terrifying trials by the real big war passed the American nation. But exactly because of this advantage America should behave in the World neatly, peacefully, respectfully, appreciating that these terrifying troubles have passed her. There are very few countries in the World who are so lucky.

And that’s why it is SO ridiculous when the US tries to teach Russia life. As inexperienced teenager tries to teach life of a wise man. I have no intention of insulting the American nation. This is a great nation, with their own history. They gave the World absolutely stunning cinema (i adore Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, Basil Rathbone, Katharine Hepburn, Alfred Hitchcock and Charlie Chaplin (yes, both are British, but they made their best films in US), Greta Garbo, James Cagney, Orson Welles, Elizabeth Montgomery etc.), they gave the World many many fantastic music groups and singers, they are very successful and talented in medicine, education and science. But damn… how the US behave in world politics is simply awful.

John Brown

AmPatriotSmith will you admit Jewish racist supremacism is wrong and a great sin in the eyes of god? Will you admit the Talmud, Torah and Kaballah are all wrong and in sin, a great sin against god, when they say that god did not create Jews and non Jews as equals in the eyes of god and that Goyims are equal to Jews in the eyes of god in every way and Jews are not superior genetically, spiritually, not chosen and not better then Goyims in any way in gods eyes? and that all men are brothers in the eyes of god???

ALAFF

“With its invasions of Georgia and Ukraine, Russia demonstrates its willingness to violate the sovereignty of states in the region,” the document says.”

Hmm… This general SO MUCH incompetent? What’s with Georgia? Mayby general Neller very naive and doesn’t know, but in 2008 Georgia, being an AGGRESSOR, attacked South Ossetia, and Georgia KILLED russian peacekeepers in Tskhinvali. So Georgia was FORCED to peace. And btw Russia did least of what it could do. As in 1945, Russia not only drove the fascists out of its territory, but also drove them down to the capital of Nazi Germany hoisting the banner of victory over the Reichstag. And in 2008, after Georgia killed russian peacekeepers, Russia could (or even should?) to take a blitzkrieg to the capital of Georgia and to destroy Saakashvili’s regime. But this was not done. The Georgian regime was allowed to continue to exist.

https://www.rt.com/politics/georgia-started-ossetian-war-978/

UN officially admitted that it was exactly Georgia who was the aggressor in 2008, though West tried to tell lies right after the events and to blame Russia, but then when it became impossible to hide the FACTS, UN made a right decision. CNN showed a picture of the RT with a demonstration of the burning city of Tskhinval after its shelling with Georgian artillery, but the announcer said that on the screen the city of Gori, destroyed by the Russian army! Direct lie. Transcript of Response to Media Questions by Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov at Press Conference, New York, September 29, 2008, the Questiom started with words “In your speech on Saturday you called for elaboration of principle of international law that states should refrain…”:

http://www.mid.ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/322726

But general Robert Neller STILL pretend that it’s “Russia’s willingness to violate the sovereignty of states in the region”. Very funny. And VERY stupid.

The ability of American (and Western, on the whole) officials and politicians to blatantly lie is really amaze. STILL really amaze (remembering Colin Powell’s fake “test-tube”).

I will not discourse now about “Russia’s aggression on Ukraine”, which is a cheap fake efficacious for Western-propaganda victims. Putin (and many other Russian officials) said hundreds times that US (and West on the whole) should blame themselves for supporting and legalization of what happened with Kosovo. The West was warned that admitting independence of Kosovo (absolutely illegal in its nature) they create a very dangerous precedent and open a Pandora’s Box. Being stupid and too cocky, they were not listening. Well, if so – the West now has NO ANY rights to talk about “illegitimacy” of what happened in/with Crimea.

Yes, Russia did a big mistakes on Ukraine – when Russia admitted the legitimacy of the current Ukrainian authorities (Nazi regime, in fact). It was very big mistake. And when Poroshenko began to kill his own citizens (rocket bombardment of the Donbass in the spring of 2014), Russia should not repeat the mistake which it did in Georgia in 2008 (when Russia did not go to the capital of Georgia to destroy the criminal regime of Saakashvili who started the war with South Ossetia) and Russia should carry out a lightning fast operation that would end in Kiev with the arrest (or liquidation) of Poroshenko. Thousands of lives would be saved, people on Donbass would be saved. And by the way, if it would be done, then Donetsk and Lugans would not declare independence, and would continue to be an organic part of Ukraine. These were truly mistakes of Russia.

Joe Buckstrap

There should be a military insurrection against the bloated, 5 deferment Dotard and these crackpot generals itching to start WWIII.

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