On November 5, the US Navy stated that a Russian Su-27 fighter jet had intercepted a US EP-3 spy plane in “unsafe” fashion over the Black Sea. It also posted video showing the armed fighter jet flying within meters of the spy plane.
“This interaction was determined to be unsafe due to the Su-27 conducting a high speed pass directly in front of the mission aircraft, putting at risk the pilots and crew,” the US Navy said claiming that its aircraft was “operating in accordance with international law.”
The US Navy complained that the Russian fighter jet had intercepted the US spy plane near Russian borders. Nonetheless, it forgot to mention that the Black Sea is located over 7,000 km away from the US border.
way more than ”within meters” the EP-3 would have bounced around quite heavenly due tot the turbulence created by the Russian Su-27 fighter
Aren’t those Russkies evil? They don’t even allow innocent US spy planes to carry out their work, and they even go so far as to fly in an unsafe fashion, obviously without caring for that poor US pilot. It is a true disgrace.
lol
Someone remind me where the Black Sea is, again?
Next to Gulf of Mexico
No, Mare Euxinus.
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Just off the coast of New York I think :)
Between Maryland and Vermont.
US pilots feeling unsafe near Russian borders? Not willing to die for banksters profits? How unpatriotic of them.
When do the russians complain of these provocations…? Russians wanna do all this hostile maneuvers in international waters…. When the russians have the balls to do it to us, lets see when they will grow the balls for the exercise…
Sorry can you translate? Black Sea – Crimea – Russian territory, with military base. Was not aware the Black Sea was so close to the US?
USS Donald Cook, learnt a lesson when the ship got too close to Bastion, over in Crimea. Not forgetting Kaliningrad. Shame Russia did not do the same to the US spy plane, sniffing too close to Crimea.
Umm… Maybe you misunderstood me.. When does Russia complain of U.S. intervention via this parameters? You failed to touch any point of the reply that i would have accepted
Your still not making sense. Maybe you should leave this for intelligent people.
It is your comment that makes little sense. Are you the product of current US or UK ‘education’ ?
What! Don’t blame me! I only teach them Science.
Like I said, I need a translator.
By the way, it was the US crying the tears, Russia was just shaking up the recording systems, with a little flight turbulence.
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Lol.
The XXXL is named Syria S300 almost safe.
You are totally outdated about how the world has been for many years.
http://www.blackseagrain.net/information/maps/black-sea-region-map
Not half as much as you. Why is your map trying to ignore Russia? Including pointing out Crimea is part of Russia?
I took a random map telling things are along the coasts are very different since 1991 and Russia too muich behave as those countries still were a part of USSR defence territory.
Most normal people can abstract plus and minus for Crimea as well at the counsild at Donetsk.
And we do have exact the same problem here in Denmark at the Baltic Sea, where we have Kalingrad in the middle of Nato according to airdefence and going to the ecgreme from Russian airplanes.
The last changes is Russians has deplyed many big missiles in Kaliningrad and will take in more. THEY ESCALATE.
We thewrefore have orderes 4 Scud batteries for korvettes as well as bunches of small ones. And russians do simulate attack at our territory and stop seconds from comming into out 100% own part. They do close their transporters. They dont tell it before they do anymore.
1989 James Baker, the Secretary of State, promised Gorbechev, that he would not move an inch into Eastern Europe. You have pointed out the lies told, when they so wished to dismantle the Warsaw Pact and yet, keep Nato going. Why? So weird, or was it designed to turn Nato into a uni-polar, offensive union?
Then you have the history of the Black Sea and Montreux Convention 1936. Which was never set up to assist the US, which is not a signatory to the Convention, or Nato members.
Your random map, really? When it omits to mention Russia?
Why does Russia need to keep ahead with regards defending her territory in Kaliningrad?
Which takes us back to the promises of Baker, who emphatically stated if only Gorbechev would dismantle the Warsaw Pact, then Nato would not move an inch into Eastern Europe. So how do ‘first strike missile defence systems’ (clue in first strike), placed in Eastern Europe, on Russia’s borders, fit into the promises of 1989?
Who wants war and it is not Russia?
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Who has perfected the art of defence, when dealing with ‘nightmare neighbours’?
Can Satan 2 Wipe Out the UK
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Why Russia’s new ‘Satan 2’ nuclear missile is so dangerous – for both sides… https://www.businessinsider.com.au/russia-nuclear-missile-satan-2-2016-10
You map is out of date. Crimea left Ukraine in 2014. …. Perhaps you ran out of yellow?
Normal people get the picture by that and can see the Black Sea isnt as Russian as it used to be.
Its written below in my comment already.
If you were to take a poll then about 80% of Americans would put the Black Sea off Manhattan – they know it’s next to Ukraine and that’s where they put Ukraine.
Especially the masses who still believe the MSM.
Uhm… the Russians did do it to you.
Dude, Russian warplane buzzed US surveillance aircraft operating adjacent to Russian Federation territory – washing the US aircraft in its hot jet engine wake…
I would think that the US crew had some rather smelly underpants for the rest of the flight Tudor :)
Come on! They asked him to make close approach to make good pictures. https://www.rt.com/news/412631-cold-war-air-fun/
Lol. Morale matters
Only unsafe thing here is your presence in that part of world! Wherever you go, it becomes unsafe!
Russian animals and their fans!
These flies are regulated by international treatys, signed also by russia. ruskie polits are drunken. and sometimes are kicked in ass. like in syria :))
I smell Ukrop troll here…
hahaha :))) you smell your poo :P
Tis you who is full of crap.
Just reminded me of the cauldrons. Wonder how many Ukrop trolls perished in the cauldrons of Eastern Ukraine?
Go and wash Yourself. Remember the mouth and behind every friday is a minimum.
You must be an Ukrainazi ! Dumbass!
Maybe it’s unsafe by American standards but perfectly normal by Ruskis?
Normal? Sure. Therefore felt nearby Koznetsov in the sea :DDDD
Well, at least the crew of Koznetsov can use a pen and compass, enabling them to sail in international waters, without hitting merchant shipping.
How much did it cost the US tax payer to fix the USS John McCain and USS Fitzgerald?
Navy Releases Collision Report for USS Fitzgerald and USS John S McCain Collisions… https://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=103130
That is before we get onto the problems with the Littoral combat ships, the USS Zumwaltt ships, or the exploding generators on the newest US aircraft carrier, the Gerald Ford (built without elevators for the missiles – oooooops).
U.S. Navy’s Costliest Carrier Was Delivered Without Elevators to Lift Bombs… https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-02/costliest-carrier-was-delivered-without-elevators-to-lift-bombs
USS Defence Budget – $717 billion Russia Defence Budget – $47 billion
You might look to Murmansk and the Hanger repair there.
You just reminded me of this wonderful video. Thanks.
Polar Nights & Northern Lights. Natural wonders and life in Murmansk Region with James Brown… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI5er1Evo3s
How many Russian submarines are in full working order? How many US submarines are in full working order?
How many Russian military ships are in full working order? How many US military ships are in full working order?
How reliant is Russia on the Admiral Kuznetsov? Compared to the rest of her Naval assets? How long will the refit be extended, owing to the accident?
Your point?
…. I’m thinkin’ it’s going to be that floating dock that going to be the biggie to fix/replace.
What the US fucken spy plan was doing there, to spy on Russia? The US spy plans reins is in the control of Russia. When cross redline then don’t cry. LOL
bobbie, you learn about reality first, then comment
look at project Open Sky
Yes look at ‘project open sky’
Flights are supervised by men of both militaries. The receiving country and the observing country set a path and schedule it ahesd of time to make sure its judt them in the sky and not some civilian jet, or some hostile plane that makes itself a nice slow moving target for AA
The open skies treaty has a lot of parameters in respect to safety of those involved and those who could possibly find themselves in a dangerous and even fatal situation.
This is not open skies its over international waters and there’s been a few times when US spy planes have been at the center of one awful disaster cos they shadows a civilian aircraft from int skies over waters and got it shot down at least once.
The US has no business trying to swim in the local community pool of that area. None.
black sea, baltic sea blongs o this program. and morover, in international waters everybody can do intel. ruskies do also around hawai, etc. what is forbidden to fly so close to another jet.
http://www.blackseagrain.net/information/maps/black-sea-region-map
Open sky rules does not apply to sensitive areas in the world where the US wonkers have created instability, otherwise somebody will fu*k the US spy plans war ships and war machines there.
open sky is over whole europe also above moscow, kiev, london :P
They have done that since Turkey became a Nato member.
Actually any party of the Open Skies Treaty have the legal right to observe any party of the Treaty of Open Skies both outside and within each partys airspace, and theres nothing to do about it.
https://www.osce.org/library/14127
“Each State Party shall be obliged to accept observation flights over its territory in accordance with the provisions of this Treaty.”
“Observation flights may only be restricted for reasons of flight safety and not for reasons of national security.”
And the allowed sensors are: (A) optical panoramic and framing cameras; (B) video cameras with real-time display; (C) infra-red line-scanning devices; and (D) sideways-looking synthetic aperture radar.
Oh honey. You neglected to mention that part in open skies where flights are supervised by members of both parties.
Said flights are also scheduled and flown over an agreed path in accordance with local and international flight safety so as not to put innocdnt people at risk merely because one side wanted to observe anothers land.
Start over.
Theres a difference between supervised/escorted and trying to deny. If a route have been agreed between the Russians and the US, then the Russians cannot deny them access. If the US is just flying where ever they want without letting the Russians know about it (witch is most likely the case here), it would block the US in the door as well.
I do not know if the US just tried their luck or if they followed a agreed upon route.
Tried their luck, as usual.
Remember, when they sent the USS Donald Cook to Crimea, hoping to kick Russia out of Sevestapol? Bastion smiled warmly and flared up. The first time a US Destoyer did a figure of eight, in the Black Sea. Then the same ship, same area, caught the attention of the Russian military jets. You would have thought the US learnt their lessons, but, they decided it would be a good idea to get too close to Kaliningrad, when Russia were expecting a nuclear first strike. Didn’t President Putin, personally give the orders for the Russian submarine to shut them up?
One hour and 24 minutes into this video, you find out what happens to the USS Donald Cook meeting Bastion. The other links relate to USS Donald Cook and USS Theodore Roosevelt, getting too close to Crimea and Kaliningrad.
EXCLUSIVE: The famous Russian documentary on Crimea with Putin FINALLY with SUBS… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mw4Y9jRwCQ
How Russia Ruined American Plans In Crimea… https://www.fort-russ.com/2016/03/how-russia-ruined-american-plans-in/
John Helmer: What The USS Donald Cook and Polish Navy Were Doing Off Kaliningrad When They Were Buzzed By the Russian Air Force… https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/04/john-helmer-what-the-uss-donald-cook-and-polish-navy-were-doing-off-kaliningrad-when-they-were-buzzed-by-the-russian-air-force.html
March 23, 2015 Terrified US Aircraft Carrier Flees From Russian Subs To UK Safety… http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1853.htm
What spooked the USS Donald Cook so much in the Black Sea? VOLTAIRE NETWORK | 8 NOVEMBER 2014 … http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
Thanks for the info, the video is bookmarked for tomorrow.
Might be long, but, well worth viewing, even if only in sections. One hour 24 minutes, they mention the USS Donald Cook coming into view of Bastion, who was ready to have some fun.
Nice links , thank you AM.
Share them often, but, events are so fast, you end up forgetting so much. Hence, happy to post the oldies.
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BS = Bl**dy Scared. Do believe they were. Hence the mass resignation attempts, courtesy sailors of the USS Donald Cook.
Here is a photo of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, stationed in Stokes Bay, when they had to report to Naval headquarters in the UK, before limping down for some Naval healthcare in Devonport.
USS Theodore R Roosevelt in Stokes Bay Portsmouth… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8MKJdyMoEk (USS Theodore R Roosevelt, CVN-71, ‘The Big Stick’, the fourth of ten Nimitz Class Nuclear Powered Super Aircraft Carriers of the United States Navy, moored in The Solent at Stokes Bay, Gosport during a port visit to Portsmouth from March 2015).
24 March 2015 – Russian Submarine Disables USS Theodore Roosevelt, Forcing it to flee to the UK… http://pakistancyberforce.blogspot.com/2015/03/russian-submarines-disable-uss-theodore.html
Here we go again. Russia dont own the black sea at all. They have big influenze in their own parts and all has to keep the rules for the international part.
Since 1991 the Bulgarian, the Roumanian, The ukrainian and the Georgian parts non of russian business.
In areas outside that, You have to be visible by tranponders and announce, if You do something, which is not normal procedures. You follow corridors and also can be rescued by showing, where You are.
“Russia dont own the black sea at all.”
Denmark does not own the Baltic Sea either, UK does not own the North Sea either, US dont own the Atlantic either, Japan does not own the Pacific either, Spain or Turkey does not own the Mediterranean either, yet, they intercept VVS flights like its their own territory.
“Bulgarian, the Roumanian, The ukrainian and the Georgian parts non of russian business.” When did the VVS go over those territories, acording to the article the incidient happens over international waters?
If you had a nabour, wich said to everyone that you are the evil of evil, and he walked just outside your property watching you and listening to everything you said, would you let him or do something about it?
You have no idea what you are talking about. This was not an open sky flight
The please educate me in what is a Open Sky Flight
Educating will cost you $5. This was just a regular surveillance mission by US. Open sky treaty is something else. They are scheduled and would be over Russian or US territory. Wouldn’t get intercepted. Also US is nowadays backing down from the treaty as they dont need it. They have satellites and Global hawk. Your description is correct but this was not one of them. I dont know where you get that from. It not stated by the US or Russian side.
Thank you for the description, i owe you a beer or cup of coffee then.
I got the info from OSCE.org, thinking that, in this case, it was a trustworthy source, since i dont trust wikipedia
NEVER trust a zionist source for anything. Even look out of your window to check the weather :)
Those are rules for the whole world and they are very detailed.The same goes for the sea.
Of course parts of them are contested here and there, but Your ziotisme is far out.
Zionist or not, they are still the rules the world have agreed upon.
Rules that are not followed by Israel or FUKUS, and never have been.
Yet we can agree upon that those are the rules MEANT to be followed, made and agreed upon by the international community, NATO and the old Warszawa pact in particular?
Therefore if the text in unchanged, the source does not matter and does no add og subtract credibility?
Did not realise ‘Open Sky’ was 24/7?
Didn’t the US voice their wish to pull out of the ‘open sky’ treaty, owing to not liking it when Russia exercises her rights?
Agree, That is a typical US move; crying that the other party is denying any cooperation, yet they are the ones denying the other party access.
Its a deliberate US strategy , borrowed from Israel.
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you with your officer :))
Your daddy and your slovakian mother back in 1945? How many soviet soldiers did rape her anyway? It must be the reason you hate them so much….
my mother is lady. not as your, you son of thousand fathers.
we aRE HAPPY, THAT RUSKIES WERE SENT HOME, THEY ARE STYEPPE ANIMALS, DO NOT BELONG IN CIVILIZED WORLD.
Your mother is a whore, cheap slovakian hooker raped by 100000 dogs: russian, german, doesnt really matter.
Civilized? You? You cheap slaves and dirty bitches belong in hell along with Hitler you filthy piece of shit.
When EXACTLY were the requests to make these observation flights made by the US to RF under the open skies treaty??? Perhaps, RF should do the same type of flights near Washington, New York and San Diego, coordinated with SCO?
As i have said in a different post, i do not know if this was a “scheduled” flight or not.
I would not have a problem with the VVS performing OST flights over other countrys.
Russia defending her territory. Ironic the US complain, when trying to peak into Crimea, Russia, which has nought to do with the US. Shame Russia did not jam the electronics on the US spy plane, or simply do an Israel style strike on it.
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Your point?
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Cannot see the shores of the US bordering the Black Sea. Funny how they ignore limited access and the constraints of the Montreux Convention of 1936. Now what was stipulated, back in 1936?
Montreux Convention 1936… https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/naval-arms-control-1936.htm
Interesting article, mistaking the Soviet Union for Russia, in some parts. Remember, James Baker, the Secretary of State, promised Gorbechev, back in 1989, they would not move an inch into Eastern Europe, if only he would dismantle the Warsaw Pact. Moving the Soviet tanks from the streets of Eastern Europe. So why are there now US tanks, strutting down the streets of Eastern Europe, together with Nato members, bordering the Black Sea?
What on earth is this whining for, huh, this was flashing, you know, like wearing an trench coat, just to show you are weaponised, and this was not an close encounter, look how stable the Suck is, rock steady.
Psf, whimps, when you are poaking the bear, dont expect Him to just ignore you, and I see nothing wrong, other than an obvious warning, even the shit for bran wankees got that, wounder did it smell barn inside afterward, I wounder, wounder.
peace
Why are they complaining of this flying so far from home?
Because they thought they were near home. That’s what the SatNav said anyway :) The SatNav data was provided by Sarah Palin Inc I understand .
Don’t see what all the noise is about. The SU-27 was just practicing close air escort. When they found out it was EP-3E sigint, they took off with high heat. :D
Possibly some scorched paintwork/ blistered USAF decals on right side of that surveillance aircraft…!
The got lost over the Bermuda triangle and thought they were spying big “blacks” in Kansas!
Awesome to watch the SU-27 up so close, I reckon do it again!
and how nice to see, the heat of its engines. easy to find from long distance :DD
Turn off the burners, and then circle in from behind. Let the US know who is in control of the Black Sea. :)
Let the US know who is in control of the Black Sea. :)
NATO
during hard times ruskies are not able enter or leave Mare Exinus
….and so is the radar signature of the enemy…..yes even F-35! :DD
The Russian pilot ramped up the burners to make close proximity very clear – to both spook US pilots and send a mass of scorching hot exhaust straight into path of the US aircraft’s turboprop air intakes, evidently the message was received loud and clear.
C’mmon! It was just a warning to US. The next time they will do it…there will be no complaining.
Same old pesky Russians, not allowing the exceptionally violent and expansionist US EVIL Empire to spy on its God-given sovereign territory, the entire planet. I would prefer the diplomacy of the US Western movies: shoot first and talk later. RF should shoot first and then apologise profusely later, sending Lavrov all over the US. The language used by RF should be the same as that used by the US police when they shoot unarmed African-Americans. “They were big, black and very threatening to the security of the RF.”
The black sea is not russian at all. Russians only have corners of it.
Sheesh but these Yankers are whiny wimps – God help ’em if they ever have to get into a real fight with these Aggressive Russians,
With the US unilaterally deciding to quit the intermediate range missile treaty Russia and China should push for a new standard of 500 mile territorial limits rather than 15.
Did the naughty Russian make them cry?