Washington has increased the number of troops in Iraq to 8,000 people, and is preparing an operation to liberate Mosul.
The US has decided not to participate in the liberation of the Syrian city of Raqqa. Instead, Washington is planning to storm the capital of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group in Iraq – the city of Mosul, the Izvestiya newspaper reported, citing a high-ranking source in the Syrian Defense Ministry. According to the source, US President Barack Obama’s administration needs an international victory ‘at any cost’.
According to the source, earlier, the White House believed that the US will be able to organize taking of the two capitals, using others, and show the world their ‘victory’ before the presidential elections in the country.
“However, ultimatum of Turkey, which has demanded not enjoy the support of Syrian Kurds in order to storm the city [Raqqa], forced the US to abandon one of the goals,” the newspaper’s source noted. “The US wants to achieve a propaganda victory at any cost. The US presidential election will be soon. Barack Obama and the US Democrats need to show that they have achieved at least some results, supporting in this way candidate of the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton.”
The fact of preparing US troops to storm Mosul was also confirmed by a senior Iraqi military, speaking to the newspaper on condition of anonymity. He said that the US wants to start the operation to liberate Mosul in mid-October, but at the same noted that the offensive operation is not ready, as the Iraqi Army has not concentrated all its efforts to capture the city.
“In recent months, the US presence in Iraq has significantly increased, and their [US military’s] actions intensified. There are those who have come here from Syria. Military of the US come to Iraq every month – only in September, 500 military men arrived. The number of US troops reached the mark of 8,000 men,” the senior Iraqi military said.
It is notable that during a debate, presidential candidate of the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, said that terrorists will be driven out of Iraq by the end of 2016. At the same time, she just noted that terrorists in Syria “will be hamstrung.” According to experts, such Clinton’s statements should be viewed as a vector of the current US administration.
As a former head of the Israeli intelligence service, Yakov Kedmi, said in an interview with Izvestiya, despite the fact that verbally the US wants to take both Raqqa and Mosul, in fact Washington does not have opportunities to do this.
Kedmi noted that only Syrian Kurds are able to take Raqqa, but the US cannot use their forces, as Turkey is strongly opposed to this. “For this reason, an operation to take Raqqa is impossible for the US. It [the US] either has to spoil relations with Turkey, or to forget about the Syrian target,” the former head of the Israeli intelligence service concluded.
At the same time, he noted that the situation in Iraq is otherwise. According to the expert, the US can recoup in Iraq and show the entire world its power. Good relations between Ankara and Iraqi Kurds can greatly simplify the task of taking Mosul. However, Kedmi also pointed out that the Iraqi Army is not ready for the storm. He allowed the possibility that the entire plan of taking the city of Mosul could end with a large number of victims and a new humanitarian catastrophe.
This is the most predictable October surprise in history. Democrat Presidents are absolutely the worst at cooking the books in October. Clinton tapped the strategic petroleum reserves for absolutely no other reason than to give Gore a boost in 2000, now Obama is doing the Mosul offensive for Hillary.
It will be the undoing of both of them, stay tuned.
The order that the U.S. takes down ISIS capitols isn’t that important, as long as Dier EzZor is the last one. The U.S. still needs to grab eastern Syria for a fake Sunnistan (actually, Head-chopperistan because real Levant Sunnis in Syria hate those Wahhabi bastards).
The U.S. needs to herd al Nusra and ISIS into the area below the presumed Syrian Kurdistan and east of the Euphrates. This was always Plan B. Why do you think the U.S. just took out the last bridges in Dier EzZor? It is precisely to protect the al Nusra/ISIS herding area (Head-chopperistan) east of the Euphrates from the Syrians and Iranians who will eventually be on the west side.
Raqqa can wait. They will eventually drive those rats down to Deir EzZor when the time comes. This isn’t about ‘defeating’ ISIS or al Nusra, it’s about preserving as many of them as possible so the U.S. has a convenient jihadi army for hire and ready to go. The Saudis and CIA will set up jihadi Wal*Marts there stuffed with weapons, ammunition and explosives. The U.S. long game is to keep Iraq and Syria destabilized and under constant terror attacks for decades.
Head-chopperistan will also give the U.S., Israel and GCC the oil fields and pipeline routes it can’t get by going through the middle of Syria.
Are you like…. secretly cheering…. for this nightmare to happen. ?
Just asking…..
I live under the rule of an increasingly tyrannical pathocracy in the U.S. -understanding evil does not connote assent. You don’t need to be clairvoyant to be able to guess what the ZATO. sado-neocons will do next. They are, in fact, quite predictable when you understand the nature of their diseased souls. Lobaczewski laid it all out there for anyone to find.
A thoughful perception of the US game plan , the bombing of the bridges in Dayr az Zawr , is the preliminary set up for its fall to ISIS , or at least containing SAA.. Wahhabi-stan breaks Syria into pieces.
2 decades + Oil/nat gas process build front end. Last contract…CNC Underwater cut Cryogenic Nitrogen Plasma Gantry. Cut steel/alloy/50 ton crane load for NATCO Russia has slant drill and decades Exp with portable Frac modules. .. We gave them this in the 80s. They could slant drill from Syrian Golan and drain the Zionist prize. Slant drill and pillage concessions occurs numerous places : )
The Jordanian/Syrian border….Should Syria and Russian airpower own** that. This would block the pipeline route… A temporary Sunni kookistan could exist in the NE of Syria and never become The Saudi/Qatar Pipeline play. Syria May not have the military strength for a while. Secure and block the Jordanian border could position Syria for the future And cause the Gulf terrorists calamity fiscal loss.
Kedmi noted that only Syrian Kurds are able to take Raqqa, but the US cannot use their forces, as Turkey is strongly opposed to this. “For this reason, an operation to take Raqqa is impossible for the US. It [the US] either has to spoil relations with Turkey, or to forget about the Syrian target,” the former head of the Israeli intelligence service concluded.
It’s a tricky task to get the required political consents for the anti-ISIS coalition to take Raqqa, but I think it should be possible, if the Erdogan problem is confronted by the anti-ISIS coalition and an answer that brings Turkey into full partnership with out mission aims to oust ISIS from Raqqa.
The best strategy for the anti-ISIS coalition would be if the Turkish army gets appropriate supranational leadership, from the US-led Operation Inherent Resolve or from NATO, and orders to cut off and TAKE CONTROL over land used now as ISIS supply routes to the west and south of the Euphrates, advancing Turkish forces, eliminating ISIS, all the way to Raqqa, as shown in my battle-plan (see attached image).
The best anti-ISIS scenario now is for Turkish-backed forces –
– right now that’s Rebels/FSA but in the near future I would hope to strengthen those forces with either the 41,000 Turkish troops reported to be “on stand by” at the border or with the NATO Rapid Deployable Corps – Turkey (NRDC-T), assuming all necessary political consents are granted (especially Turkey & NATO – no veto by Assad) –
– to take Al-Bab then push east-southeast towards Al-Khafsah. (See attached map of Al-Bab area)
It’s really important for the anti-ISIS coalition that we keep a front line for fighting between Turkish-backed forces and ISIS – to be sure not to block Turkish-backed forces advancing versus ISIS because we will need Turkish-backed forces to advance deeply into Syria to attack Raqqa from the south.
The worst scenario for the anti-ISIS coalition would be SDF/YPG obstructing the Turkish-backed forces and for skirmishing to develop between Rebels/FSA and SDF/YPG when, really, the focus must be kept laser-like on the fight with ISIS.
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Kedmi noted that only Syrian Kurds are able to take Raqqa, but the US cannot use their forces, as Turkey is strongly opposed to this. “For this reason, an operation to take Raqqa is impossible for the US. It [the US] either has to spoil relations with Turkey, or to forget about the Syrian target,” the former head of the Israeli intelligence service concluded.
It’s a tricky task to get the required political consents for the anti-ISIS coalition to take Raqqa, but I think it should be possible, if the Erdogan problem is confronted by the anti-ISIS coalition and an answer sought and found that brings Turkey into full partnership with our mission aims to oust ISIS from Raqqa.
The international anti-ISIS coalition must help the likes of the pro-Kurdish Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) and other opposition parties such as the secular opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP), by –
• providing them with a satellite TV channel to speak to the people of Turkey directly and • including them in international meetings where Erdogan or his government would normally expect to be the sole representative of Turkey but instead we should attempt to rub Erdogan’s face in a new reality as and when the anti-ISIS coalition doesn’t recognise Erdogan as Turkey’s only representative.
We must both blame Erdogan for his failure to lead Turkey well and pursue an alternative to the US, Russia, the UN Security Council, NATO and the rest of the anti-ISIS coalition unwisely still giving Erdogan and his government full and exclusive diplomatic recognition, while equally unwisely ignoring or worse sacrificing our real friends and allies in Turkey.
Erdogan is only the problem he is because the anti-ISIS coalition are doing nothing effective to stop him remaining the same problem.
If the international anti-ISIS coalition recognises, deals with and helps the Turkish political opposition we can solve the Erdogan problem.
The best strategy for the anti-ISIS coalition would be if the Turkish army gets appropriate supranational leadership, from the US-led Operation Inherent Resolve or from NATO, and orders to cut off and TAKE CONTROL over land used now as ISIS supply routes to the west and south of the Euphrates, advancing Turkish forces, eliminating ISIS, all the way to Raqqa, as shown in my battle-plan (see attached image).
The best anti-ISIS scenario now is for Turkish-backed forces –
– right now that’s Rebels/FSA but in the near future I would hope to strengthen those forces with either the 41,000 Turkish troops reported to be “on stand by” at the border or with the NATO Rapid Deployable Corps – Turkey (NRDC-T), assuming all necessary political consents are granted (especially Turkey & NATO – no veto by Assad) –
– to take Al-Bab then push east-southeast towards Al-Khafsah. (See attached map of Al-Bab area)
It’s really important for the anti-ISIS coalition that we keep a front line for fighting between Turkish-backed forces and ISIS – to be sure not to block Turkish-backed forces advancing versus ISIS because we will need Turkish-backed forces to advance deeply into Syria to attack Raqqa from the south.
The worst scenario for the anti-ISIS coalition would be SDF/YPG obstructing the Turkish-backed forces and for skirmishing to develop between Rebels/FSA and SDF/YPG when, really, the focus must be kept laser-like on the fight with ISIS.
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This is deranged mind Evil….
Did you graduate Tavistock. …. Are you posting from CIA cubicle hoping to get promotion?
She sounds like she might have organized the failed coup. And wants to use the presence of Turkish troops to become NATO troops , keeping the US in charge, and this war going for a real long time. FSA or ISIS , both are Wahhabi jihadists , both are the problem , not the solution .
Wait a sec… so Turkey who has been the biggest active direct supporter of al Nusra and ISIS (as well as an open supply route, recruitment pipeline and stolen oil customer) for the last four years is – in your plan – somehow the solution? I guess just invading Syria and openly stealing her land in 2011 would have been a bit over the top. Better to createthe very reasons – al Nusra and ISIS – that you can later use to invade Syria (and then steal their land because you helped them). I recognize this plan because it’s the same one my leaders in the U.S. are using to steal Syrian land and resources.
I have a better plan: how about the Turkish army and their head-chopper FSA pals stay the hell in Turkey and oppress someone there? The Syrians and Russians, along with Hezbollah and the PLA, seem to be kicking Team Head-chopper’s ass just fine. Southern Syria’s head-choppers are on the verge of total defeat – even the U.S. has abandoned them. Once the South is stable and east Aleppo is de-loused, there’s going to be a whole lot of pissed-off pro-Syrian forces moving east. Trust me – Turkey doesn’t want to be anywhere around there when that starts.
Wait a sec… so Turkey who has been the biggest active direct supporter of al Nusra and ISIS (as well as an open supply route, recruitment pipeline and stolen oil customer) for the last four years is – in your plan – somehow the solution?
The solution to the problems arising from aiding and trading with the enemy is to wage war on the enemy, yes.
This is the obvious solution which I propose be much more widely applied to defeat not only ISIS but all states which sponsor terrorism.
STRATEGY TO DEFEAT ISIS
1) Overall strategy – the West needs to apply the Bush Doctrine to all state-sponsors of terrorism – Saudi Arabia & other Gulf monarchies, Pakistan, Yemen, Egypt, Sudan, Iran and other dictator states – regime change them all.
2) Use stand off techniques more robustly – such as seizing control over state-sponsor-of-terrorism satellite-TV broadcasting (often supplied to Arab and North African state broadcasters by European satellite TV companies) and turning that propaganda weapon around and using it to promote democratic revolution through-out the region.
3) Impose the West as sole agents for all oil tanker export sales out of the Gulf. Seize all oil tankers exporting oil and sell the oil, depriving regimes of oil profits.
4) Now once you have an overall strategy in place, then you can look at specific military actions. Bombing prestige regime targets or threatening to if Al Baghdadi’s head is not on a spike within 48 hours.
5) Partition Iraq & Syria. Iraq looks like it has to go three ways – Shia, Sunni & Kurds. If the 3 new states all want to join up together in an Iraq confederacy or union of some kind of their own free will, that’s fine too.
6) Establish Western military bases in Iraq & Syria for training up the local armies. Better if we can supply them by sea or air rather than by long land routes which can have supply routes attacked by road side bombs and ambushes.
More … http://supremealliedcondista.newsvine.com/_news/2015/08/13/33784668-strategy-to-defeat-isis
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I guess just invading Syria and openly stealing her land in 2011 would have been a bit over the top. Better to createthe very reasons – al Nusra and ISIS – that you can later use to invade Syria (and then steal their land because you helped them). I recognize this plan because it’s the same one my leaders in the U.S. are using to steal Syrian land and resources.
Don’t guess. Take my word for it – 9/11, the terrorist attack on the USA was a real problem that requires a proper solution – a solution which responsible world leaders such as Condoleezza Rice and her supporters are genuinely striving for.
The necessity is simply that oil sale tax revenues should not be misused by Middle East states or their hirelings such as Pakistan and Egypt to sponsor terrorism, especially terrorism against us.
I have a better plan: how about the Turkish army and their head-chopper FSA pals stay the hell in Turkey and oppress someone there? The Syrians and Russians, along with Hezbollah and the PLA, seem to be kicking Team Head-chopper’s ass just fine. Southern Syria’s head-choppers are on the verge of total defeat – even the U.S. has abandoned them. Once the South is stable and east Aleppo is de-loused, there’s going to be a whole lot of pissed-off pro-Syrian forces moving east. Trust me – Turkey doesn’t want to be anywhere around there when that starts.
Oppressing the people of Turkey is a bad policy that Erdogan is already following.
The change in Turkey required should to be to STOP oppressing the people in Turkey – Kurds, political opposition, journalists etc.
ISIS are oppressing people in Syria so if Turkey invades those parts where ISIS is oppressing people that’s an improvement for the people who are being oppressed by ISIS.
The international community has already waited too long. I first proposed a battleplan for Turkish forces to take Raqqa in 2015 – but was informed by a post – here in South Front if I remember correctly – that Assad’s forces were within striking distance of taking Raqqa themselves.
We can’t wait for the Syrian civill war to finish and for the Syrian government to assert full control – however long that might be – and meanwhile stupidly allow ISIS a free hand. We must eradicate ISIS control as soon as possible.
Turkey and allies should proceed to seize all ISIS-controlled terrority and perchance we are too slow, we should be pleasantly surprised to find that the Syrian government has seized Raqqa before we get there, saving us the bother.
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the syrian government and it’s allies need turky to prevent the kurds anouncing a kurdish federal state oon their own, which will lead to a independent kurdish state combined with the kurdish federal state in iraq that already exist. if that happens syria will be devided into may be 3 countries. to stop this danger they need turkey now.
the syrian government and it’s allies need turky to prevent the kurds anouncing a kurdish federal state oon their own, which will lead to a independent kurdish state combined with the kurdish federal state in iraq that already exist. if that happens syria will be devided into may be 3 countries. to stop this danger they need turkey now. israel will only allow a kurdish state after they destabilized iran. may be not defeated but destroyed like syria. israel will never tolerate a strong military neibourgh. it’s just not in there nature to accept this. so the independent kurdish nation will be the one to destory turkey. they need to safe it for the turkey card.
i don’t think syria and it’s allies will accept turkey operating anymore deeper that they have. i think that was the deal when they allowed turkey troops cross the broder of syria. by the way do you know that when the russian plane was shot down, it was done without erdogan’s approval. so you suggested the US should try to take out erdogan? they already tried 2 times. first one was the shoot down of the russian plane, second was the coup. why do you think erdogan got suddenly so close to russia, but erdogan didn’t take it personaly. he used it for his benefits. you remember when erdogan entered syria? the turks had US air cover. they didn’t need it for military reason only for political reason. turkey will never allow a kurdish state. so will syria and iraq. but that is the only thing the kurds fighting for. it only wants their own country. but the first step would be a federal status. which is a pre step to independence. because of the fail coup US don’t have anything to use turkey. the turks are far more better than ypg. and yet the US can’t chose that option. i think erdogan demanded for a turkey+US joint operation the kurds must give up territory which is in the way to raqqa. this is why the turk+US joint military operation which is far more powerful than kurd+US joint military operation can’t and will not take place. kurds+US joint military operation can’t hold raqqa. or even liberate it. raqqa is not manbij. and you always have to consider the fact that the kurds are very possibly the next US proxi which will create a huge conflict in that area. people always talk about kurds nicly, but you should search what the kurds did in syria and in iraq after they got their federal kurdish state.
Will never happen(before the elections) even with round the clock air raids on mosul and a 1,000,000 man army attacking mosul, it will still take months to take mosul as isis has had a very long time to prepare defenses in mosul(and they are somewhat good at being under siege). This means miles upon miles of tunnels, ammo dumps, traps, etc etc… It will be very costly for a attacking force to take mosul, so ur gonna have to siege the city for a very long time in order to starve them out.
When the Americans come it will be game over within a month for the ISIS scum in Mosul. The Marines did a good, clean job in Fallujah, remember. They know what they are doing.
Fallujah was a different matter entirely. The rules of engagement were “Shoot first and ask questions later” which promoted a serious campaign to destroy the enemy.
Now, those types of rules are long gone. They are not even allowed to load their weapons without permission(I know this my brother was in the army as a tank driver)
You think obama is gonna let them off the leash for this? Keep dreaming dude.
Also in fallujah they were able to execute a surprise attack which did not allow the enemy time to setup worthwhile defenses.
ISIS has had several years now to build tunnels, material depots, ambush positions, etc etc…
I would think that the most important thing now would be combat experience! ISIS has plenty of it. Far more then any Iraqi Insurgents had in 03 to 07. They have also shown to be well organized highly motivated and most importantly well armed. With no place to run. As an american I would be hard pressed to stick my neck out to kill a Jihadist in Mosul knowing full well my government is protecting the same Jihadist in Allepo!
None of that. Combat experience is overrated. Most people who go into combat without adequate training become less effective at contributing to the fight, as the terror they experience causes them to fall into instinctual survival patterns that prioritise personal safety, while casting aside any notion of mission accomplishment. They tend to learn to find ways to shirk without getting caught, or spend a lot of time firing blindly from safe distances. They try to look like they are participating without doing anything actually useful. Have you watched IS in combat? They are far from skilled, or even confident. Several Israeli generals have pointed out that IS are only fearsome in the context of the regions’ mostly sub-par armies. Against any decently trained force, they are brittle cannon-fodder. as the Kurds have shown.
fallujah clean? are you talking about the same fallujah? was it clean?
Clean for who? Ever checked out the death toll for Iraqi civilians? Over 100,000 minimum. I wouldn’t call it clean for the Marines either, judging by the psychological issues of friends who fought there, who weren’t too happy about the collateral damage they participated in.
The Iraqis have been a huge disappointment in this battle. The Iraqis outnumber their opponent at least 4 to 1. Even the Iraqi version of Hezbollah wont get involved because it may piss of the Sunni tribesmen? But the Sunni are scum and wont be brave and face ISIS. Truth be told, if the Iraqis don’t rush Mosul within the next two weeks on their own, then they deserve the eternal Zionist occupation that is forming right now. Iraqis just don’t fight. They did not fight to protect Saddam. They did not fight to rid the Kurdish invaders. They did not fight against Jewish occupation which ran torture centers which hurt Iraqi people. And Iraqis will not fight and defeat ISIS now. Iraqis are doomed to extinction cause they are cowards. At least I have the integrity to say it plain and clean. Lebanese are brave, Iranians are brave, half of Syrians are brave. But Iraqis and Israels and Georgians are all cowards.
Notice America and Europe who accept the new Metro Sexual social reality. The immigrants bring disease and mental insanity to the landscape. It’s like the Alien Invasion plan from X Files TV series. Russia is awake…..Fight the Future.
you have to consider that it is a good thing for syria and it’s allies mosul is not liberated yet. as soon as they liberate mosul, many of the IS units will flee to syria and the US with their allies can concentrate much more in syria, you also have to consider that the iraqi government wanted russia taking part in this operation. also the iraqi government was not happy about the US rush. the government complained that the US are forceing iraq to start the mosul operation in a hurry. mosul has a lot of civilians inside. you have to consider that. it will be a real bloodbath if you want to liberate that city according to US schedule. i think that is why the iraqi are not willing to start that operation. i think the iraqis want to have an operation speed like aleppo. which is not possible with the US in charge. but the iraqi delay to take mosul back will benefit the syrian government with it’s allies. the least thing syria needs is a US concentratiion in syria which will happen when mosul is liberated.
Why would Shia from southern Iraq have any interest in liberating a Sunni majority city ? Their families are all in the south. The Sunni don’t fight ISIS because ISIS are actually Sunni that liberated them from corrupt Shia rule. They much prefer corrupt sunni rule. The kurds and christian have lived together with the sunni in Mosul for a long time, not always harmoniously. Amazing what a one minute google search can find out. So the US is going to liberate Mosul from its own people ? Then divide it up between all the other people that are interested. The real problem, the real disappointment is the American ignorance and deceit and imperialism that has led to the destruction of an entire country and generations. You are funny though with your generalisations of who is brave and who isn’t. Another armchair warrior who knows everything. You are the real enemy. The world is the way it is because of monkeys like you. Thanks for sharing.
Well, historically, Iraqis have fielded one of the least competent armies in the region. About the only ME nation I can think of that has fought less enthusiastically or skilfully than Iraqis are the hapless Saudis. Even during the Iraqi insurgency, native Iraqis were poorly regarded by the US/Coalition troops facing them, who considered the numerous foreigners Al-Qaeda brought in as the real backbone of the fight.
i think erdogan demanded for a turkey+US joint military operation to raqqa, that kurds have to leave the territory all the way to raqqa. only with this action erdogan would take part in that operation. i think the ypg is kind of being overestimated in their ability. the US can’t hold raqqa with ypg. this was said from a top general of the US. if they can’t hold raqqa after it’s liberation how can they even liberate raqqa which is far more harder.