This video shows the moment when an F-16I warplane crashed in Israel after it had been shot down by a missile of the Syrian Air Defense Forces. The incident took place on February 10. MORE DETAILS
According to reports at least one Israeli F-15 warplane was also damaged in the encounter. MORE DETAILS
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شاهد .. لحظة سقوط الطائرة الحربية الاسرائيلية (f16) فوق مدينة شفا عمر في الجليل السبت وارتطامها بالارض#الإعلام_الحربي_المركزي pic.twitter.com/zvRtSll6Wl— الإعلام الحربي المركزي (@C_Military1) 11 February 2018
ISRAHELL IS CANCER OF THE WORLD
..but cancers can be cut out, and then chemo can be used to eliminate every last fucking trace of the infectious cells.
Kill the kids too ?
Why not, the IDF kill kids everyday with the greatest of glee………pregnant mothers are also a favourite target, so much so, that the IDF sell T-Shirts that extole “1 shot, 2 kills”. Now tell me sir, how would you deal with this cancer that lives amongst you ?
Islam doesn’t teach this type of retaliation. Islam teaches self defense and targeting the ones responsible. Kids should never be a target. Sorry.
If Christianity had practised “turning the other cheek” as Christ would urge us, we would no longer exist. If I am confronted by evil in its purest form, I will do all in my might to destroy it. “The Jews” are the spawn of satan, there is nothing good about them, for those who have read the Talmud, the only book which every jew pays homage too and lives his life by, you will quickly realise that all other life forms referred to by it, are regarded as sub-species.Since time began, and the Jews have plagued this planet, They collectively have been responsible for countless millions, maybe billions, of deaths over the past thousands of years. Today,we ( humanity) stands on a precipice, created by the Jews, the spawn of satan, who sit in most of the positions of control, and their wish is usher in a single government whose job it will be to massacre mankind…………..thats is of course the GOYIM-mankind. Their wish is to reduce the numbers from 7.6 billion, to just 500 million. The only role those 500 million are to fill is as slaves to an elite. So in answer to your reply to me, I will not let the teachings of Christianity or Islam get in my way to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to hinder the Jews and their evil aims.
clearly a technical malfunction a flock S200 hit the turbine intake
Same flock that the F35 flew through, they will need to use pyrotechnics to clear path of birds if future. May not work against a million carrier pigeons though.
It was a ‘Gaggle of Wild Geese’ Kraaiiii :) They migrate at this time of year over Israel.
25 missiles from S 2,3,5 ,125 flying at them bunch of strange birds if you ask me.
They might have been ‘Artificial Intelligence’ geese that were just swanning around . :)
Hezbollah shows that you can defend against israel. Now, Syria shows it with very old weapons and a catastrophic situation in SYria. Even, people in Gaza show it when they manage to kill 60+ idf soldiers in few days when israel did a ground op in Gaza.
Never give up on your rights.
It’s not people fault if israelis have been invented in a book and have no lands. Even Harry Potter have no land.
the upgrades S200ve- is not an old weapon. when staffed by trained people it is still very much deadly to 4th+ gen fighters. Hezbollah can not field such systems.
Hezbollah are very efficient and smart. Give them S-300 and no one will dare to cross Lebanon airspace. And they will even help Syria.
israel is trying to destroy every research facilities in Syria because what israel is very worried about is about smart people. That’s why israel and Americans love stupid sunnis.
And even thanks to sunnis and Pussin, now, Syria has no more chemical weapons.
some pantsir-S are good enough to shoot out smart bombs and missiles… just needs a dense network of radar, communication, etc…
these things work as a component of a larger system. If you set up your pantsir -S systems, i can just shell you with regular artillery. you have to have some means of responding. the longer range systems like the S-400 are very large and very expensive, and not necessary to a force like hezbollah.
Chemical weapons were a trap that would have been used to topple Assad government. Removing them was necessary because US was headed on a collision course with the russian armed forces. Russia would be faced with a choice to stand by and watch us destroy Syria, like it did LIbya, Iraq, Serbia. The fact is at the time the decision was made it was 2013, I think maybe you forgot what the map looked like in 2013. Many CW facilities were in the hands of jihadists who were openly using the munitions against Syrian and others and blaming Assad. Russians knew that the CIA was planning Khan Sheykhoun and aside from the incompetence of the idiots who staged that pretextual incident to justify a massive attack on a non US friendly state. This is commonly done whenever there is a new incoming president, before he has really had a chance to get his people in place who would otherwise veto these typos of projects.
Assad didn’t do it. So, no need to remove chemical weapons. It was a trap. Invite UN and proof it’s not Assad. Now, Syria have no defense system and no chemical weapons.
You think Assad would have been able to prove his case except for the fact that he didnt have chemical weapons? It was the missing elephant from the room that stopped a war, twice.
Yes.The UN even didn’t want to visit the so-called chemical attack site because they knew Assad didn’t do it.
you are wrong, He would have been accused. There would be a CNN investigation. marines would land, Jihadistan would have been in place of syria.
That’s fiction. Why are you afraid ?
Fiction is your delusional idea that removing chemical weapons from Syria was anything but masterful stroke of genius by Putin.
It was a trap created by israel and USA, done by sunnis and approved by Pussin.
If I do nothing, I will not pay.
none the less, you propose walking into the trap? thats dumb.
I propose saying. “I did nothing. Sunnis and israel and USA did it so that I throw away my chemical weapons and become defendless”. Add, “Go f…ck yourself, terrorists c..ts”.
I thought you were serious
It’s serious. You are just afraid of the void like usual. You are afraid of fairytales.
Well, it seems you are solidly committed to a misguided idea, and here, we must part ways.
And… Where’s the elephant???
The elephant was destroyed by the united nations, so its difficult to blame the elephant(CW weapons syria had in 2013) since the only people with elephants get their CW from libya
The UN stated in 2013 it was likely that the rebels had full access as they have the 2 sites not accounted for in weapons. The translator the UN was recommended by the US was the leader of the group who held the water control in Daraa a Jaish al fateh Communications wing officer named Kassem Eid, they needed a fluent German speaker. The US is the last nation should be talking about chemical weapons, got rid of nearly 10% and stopped after Russia had gotten rid of theirs.
Yes, even General Mattis has just publicly said that there has been no proof that President Assad’s forces used sarin gas.
That’s what Newsweek seems to think. In fact he said the exact opposite:
Q: Can you talk a little bit about the chemical weapons that were — the State Department was talking about just a little bit yesterday, that mentioned chlorine gas? Is this something you’re seeing that’s been weaponized or – just give us a sense.
SEC. MATTIS: It has.
Q: It has. Okay.
SEC. MATTIS: It has. We are more — even more concerned about the possibility of sarin use, the likelihood of sarin use, and we’re looking for the evidence. And so that’s about all the more I can say about it right now, but we are on the record, and you all have seen how we reacted to that, so they’d be ill-advised to go back to violating the chemical convention.
A few minutes later a follow up question is asked about sarin. It is only if you ignore the above and take Mattis’ later reply totally out of context that you can claim he said there was never any evidence re sarin.
Can you say why and what military advantage the SAA would have in using very small amounts of any form of gas in the conflict Graeme ?
Can you say why and what military advantage the US proxy terrorists and the USA/Israel would have with any False Flag chemical attacks in the conflict Graeme ?
All I can say is that Mathis didn’t in fact say what you claim he said.
No, Florian said:
“Yes, even General Mattis has just publicly said that there has been no proof that President Assad’s forces used sarin gas.”
The exact opposite would be that Mattis affirmed that he has evidence that Assad used chemical weapons; Mattis instead has said “they are looking for evidence”. Which means, that they DON’T have any evidence.
Ok. An answer to my questions to you would be appreciated though Graeeme.
You have asked 2 questions that I don’t have answers for. On the face of it Syria seems to gain little militarily from these alleged attacks. Perhaps the motivation is political gain and/or psychological? My inability to adequately account for it doesn’t prove it never happened. The Syrian government did in the recent past have chemical stockpiles. That is undisputed. They presumably did so because the chemical weapons could be used to advantage if required.
As to a US/Israel false flag operation if that is what happened then little or no military advantage has accrued. The Syrian and Russian air campaign goes on successfully. Assad remains in power. If this was a false flag intended to provide a rationale for attacking Syria I would have expected a much more far reaching attack. Attacking one air base and destroying a handful of planes seems pointless. Unless of course it actually was what the US says it was: a warning to Syria to cease and desist using sarin.
The arguments regarding the actual sarin attack, both for and against, are way too technical for me to assess with any confidence.
Thank you.
I would add that there still are indeed two chemical weapon storage depots in Syria today , BUT BOTH of them are in Idlib where Al Nusra and other brands of terrorists have had control since before the destruction process was initiated in ALL the SAA controlled areas.
UN access to the terrorist controlled Idlib depots has been denied, despite some of the groups being loyal to Turkey , that is of course a NATO member.
I would also like to see the US and Israel destroying all of their current stocks of chemical and biological weapons Graeme.
can you even read?
In which part Mattis says explicitly he has proof? Because the fact that “you see how we reacted” does not make Sarin any truer than before, or are we implying that from now on we’ll take the reactions of the US as evidence that Syria used chemicals?
I can see thus is an emotional issue for you John. You seem unable to use any comprehension skills to assess these comments. Take a deep breath and re-read it several times. His meaning is crystal clear even if somewhat awkwardly expressed. This is common in verbal communication. Mattis is not submitting a written report to Congress or the U.N. He is speaking in an informal manner, off the cuff, to reporters and journalists. The precision you might be looking for i.e. Mattis saying the exact words “there is evidence” isn’t there. Even so it is clear his comments about evidence don’t encompass the sarin attack that triggered the US cruise missile assault on the Syrian air base.
“Mattis is not submitting a written report to Congress or the U.N. He is speaking in an informal manner”
Irrelevant, it’s you that chose to quote him. It does not moreover mean that his words can be interpreted at will.
“The precision you might be looking for i.e. Mattis saying the exact words “there is evidence” isn’t there. Even so it is clear his comments about evidence don’t encompass the sarin attack that triggered the US cruise missile assault on the Syrian air base”
Sophism in which you hope to hide your initial lie.
You previously stated that Mattis said the “contrary” of what Florian had affirmed.
In fact, Mattis said not the contrary, but exactly what Florian affirmed:”There is no evidence of sarin attacks” otherwise Mattis would not had said that “they are looking for evidence”, he would had said that “they have evidence”.
In regards to reread the statement, I suggest you do it instead, because you’re literally inventing new senses to the words spoken by Mattis, interpreting them to suit the significance you need to convey.
Mattis statement is not “awkward”, and what is “crystal clear” is the phrase “we are looking for evidence”. Which for normal people who just listen at spoken words, it’s much closer to stating that “there is no evidence” than “there is evidence”.
And in regards to emotional issues, yes, I have an issue with rattlesnakes lying their way up their ranks, with the only objective to fulfill to generate more war and suffering, when there is people fighting and sacrificing to give peace and a better future to coming generations.
Ok John. Answer me this. What does Mattis mean when he states
“They’d be ill-advised to go back to violating the chemical convention” ?
He means that the US would attack Syria if Syria used chemical weapons, something both Obama and Trump administration have always said.
Nothing new.
What is interesting is what kind of logical course can someone go through in order to give those words the meaning “We have evidence Syria has chemical weapons”.
These people don’t act and speak according to anything they have or know; these people act on the basis of the schemes that have been forced on them.
So Mattis, knowing that there is no evidence – rather, all the evidence points at Al-Nusra with western country backings as the perpetrators – tries to talk in such a way to make a listener think they have more than what they let out.
It’s zionist propaganda style, israeli press is literally saturated with that kind of trick. Ridiculous if you ask me – as the “clever” reader also has his ego gratified by “being able to spot” hidden messages.
Watching these people scatter like cockroaches as soon as someone starts telling people the truth is a real spectacle.
Put that dunce’s hat on John Whitehot and sit in the corner!
He is saying Syria has used chemical weapons before ( “to go back to violating” – in other words “ to revert to violating” or to “ return to violating”)
It’s not hard if you try!
Talking shit again Rymill? Don’t you ever shut up and cease embarassing yourself?
Would you like to tell us again how the Russian aircraft were destroyed by terrorist mortar attacks (even though the photos of damage were clearly not caused by frag warheads).
yaya.
meanwhile, your point about Mattis more or less implicitly stating that Syria has chemical weapons lies wrecked in pieces all around the place.
John…it it just me or is this “there is no green grass at Khmeimim air base” all over again? :-)
exactly.
You are correct that chlorine gas has been used in Syria. This is not what is meant by chemical weapons. Khan Sheykhoun had allegations of Sarin use, which is a very strong organophosphate, a neurotoxic substance that leads to a horrible death. This is not the same as chlorine which causes skin burns, not pleasant either, but just not in the same class of weapons. US is trying to mingle chlorine use with sarin use when convenient to accuse Assad, but there is no proof of the latter. It is my understanding of CBRN report is that organophosphates(pesticides) were present in large quantities in the facility destroyed by a SyAf airstrike, and this contributed to some of the exposure on the ground of persons who presented with what amounted to be cholinergic symptoms (symptoms of both pesticides and nerve gasorganophosphates).
The simple fact about what Mattis said or didn’t say wont be the best way to figure out what really happened, because people lie. Here are some simple questions that if you ask yourself might provide some insight into what really happened. Why was the airbase(Shayrat) that would have had any evidence of a chemical attack, destroyed? Why not send a team of FBI agents there to collect samples(They were invited by the Russians and the Syrians)? Why was the crime scene on the ground not secured prior to coming out with conclusions? Who controlled the crime scene? What would be a military purpose of using a chemical agent on a worthless village? Why not reveal evidence that assad posses nerve agent? What do you think are the answers to those questions? Sources and methods :) HAHAHAHA
Yep. They got Trump to bloody his hands with Syrian blood by the Khan Sheykhoun false flag. Mission accomplished, because that makes future attacks based on lies possible/probable. That said, I’ve no earthly idea why Mattis apparently just said they never had any direct evidence of Syrian “regime” complicity in either sarin attack.
the usual idiocies.
Hezbollah does not have technician and specialists able to operate S-300s.
You don’t have the slightest hint on what kind of systems S-300/400 are. It’s so evident that the only thing you try is to start from non-sensical, if not outright foolish military arguments to get a way to criticize Putin or Russia.
You’re a joke.
Surely Hezbollah don’t have technician and specialists able to operate S-300 as they don’t have S-300 !!!! XD
But, give them some S-300 and learn them to operate these weapons and they will master it at the speed of light and operate it like a charm.
“Surely Hezbollah don’t have technician and specialists able to operate S-300 as they don’t have S-300 !!!! XD”
so funny.
You can’t just give out systems and “learn them to operate those weapons”.
I shouldn’t even be replying because I don’t like getting in these kind of vulgarities, but radar specialists don’t grown on trees, neither you put an S-300 on the ground like its a MANPAD and it’s ready to work – you need a developed and integrated early warning network, command control and communications and Hezbollah does not have anything like that, they are mostly light infantry forces with some mechanized and armor components.
Unless chemical weapons are used in vast quantities as in WW1 and to a lesser extent by Iraq in the Iraq/Iran war, they are counter productive and have no military value..
The Khazars were not even “invented in a book ” serious ,they only adopted the jew faith about 800 years ago.
Wait for Saudi Arabia’s direct involvement against Hezbollah (and their IRGC allies) entrenched in Lebanon and Syria…remember that the KSA has officially announced the existence of a State of War between them and that Shia militia…and the Royal Saudi Air Force has obtained the implicit authorization from Israel to use their airspace if necessary.
The Saudi’s have shown themselves to be as effective in warfare as a small child with a gun.
This would explain the Houthi video posted here today, I have never seen such nincompoopery of marksmanship.
I think we both celebrate the bravery of the rescuer though BMW.
Sorry you are insulting small children it’s more like a “monkey with a hand grenade”.
Yes indeed :) and also monkeys I think :)
after seeing their performance against houthis, I look forward at seeing how well they do in a multithreat, totally hostile air space like Syria.
What? Are you trying to scare people with KSA “worriors”? Lol. Should we start shaking now?
When did they kill idf soldiers?
The question is why Russia hasn’t equipped Syria with more modern anti-defense weapons, especially since they are now involved in the war.
Because Putin is friend with Netanyahu.
That’s true. Putin doesn’t love Assad or Iran. He will use Assad and the shia militas backed by Iran to take what he wants from Syria. Regardless Russia was responsible for downing the F-16. Not in opposition to Israel to retaliate for Assad or Iran. Putin wouldn’t go that far to protect his puppet. But in retaliation for the downing of the Su-25. All fingers point to CIA operatives responsible for that attack to downgrade Russian arms sales to major buyers around the world. Russia retaliated by taking down a F-16, a advance aircraft that sells well for US companies. They found the perfect scenario. Netanyahu will probably forgive Putin. He knows Russia isn’t against Israel.
“to downgrade Russian arms sales to major buyers around the world”
very unlikely as SU-25s aren’t being sold or offered much if at all.
Not many air forces worldwide need or want specialized CAS planes.
I was afraid someone would counteract my argument with this. It does seem highly unlikely that yes, it was a SU-25 and not a SU-35. Needless to say, it’s a Russian aircraft used by Russia itself. I am sure that Americans were hoping for something better than a SU-25. They probably just supplied the weapon or helped to facilitate it’s smuggling inside rebel territory. The point is I am sure Russia knows America was involved and Russia responded back.
They stole the Su 25 and copied it what nonsense you are talking about, they turned it into a stealth fighter way too expensive to fly.
I won’t discuss the differences between the two planes, in any case the rest it’s your opinion.
The russian plane was bombing terrorists at the request of the legitimate Syrian government.
The israeli plane was illegally bombing Syria itself.
Saying that it’s a “response” (Why to the US and not to Israel then?) implies that thus, Israelis can feel safe to bomb Syria every time they want, unless a Russian plane has been shot down previously?
it’s nonsensical.
As my father says, ” if You keep poking a lion with a stick, sooner or later You will get bit.”
good results. 1 F-16 and 1 Apache downed, 1 F-15 damaged… this is what the ZIos admit.. so maybe the losses / damages are higher…. well done, syria.
This is not enough teach the aggressor lessens,The will get replacements from america with no time. Assad needs better Air Defense System and Russia is failing to protect Syria, therefore at least Putin should provide and train Syria SAA with latest Air Defense System, so Syria can defend itself
Latest air defense cost too much money, and I just doubt that Russia will just go and provide this for Syria, there is only one set of S-400 air defense and It’s stationed In Latakia In Hermeim air base, and that has range to protect Tartus base too. S-400 are the worlds most sophisticated air defense I just don’t believe that Russia will handle them such equipment. Although Syria has some S-200 air defense systems and some Buk’s mobile air defense.
Has the AH64 downing been confirmed?
1 Apache downed? News reports make no mention of it. Source please!
This is a made up story. One can tell what news sources people use by the fake news they spread. Wolfgang Wolf obviously gets his news from some fake Iranian site.
Syria needs better Air Defense System. Can not survive with S-200 and Syria can’t count on Russia to defend Syria, therefore Russia at least should provide and train SAA with advance Air Defense System
Syrians must start building their own systems with hezbollah and iranian scientists. I’m pretty sure they can do it. And I’m sure that some Europeans will also help.
If they do so, they must be aware that israelis and americans will kill their scientists like they did with iranian physicists.
There is not time for now. Maybe in the future could and should
They must have started way before instead of staying talking in coffee shop.
The ethic work of Germans can help them. Go to Germany to learn. Germans are hard-worker and they will learn you how to work correctly.
Maybe, but Germans are part of NATO and will not risk own agenda
I don’t talk about the german gov, I talk about the german people. If they help NATO ennemis, Germans can think of liberate themselfs once NATO is aweaken.
The Iranians or Chinese could step in here and provide systems also.
Maybe China would be better option for Syria to get better military hardware,specially Air Defense System, as China looks for business. Russia failed to protect Syria and provide Syria with old military hardware. Put simply Russia selling Syria refurbish old military hardware, that some of them remember II world war .
“Russia failed to protect Syria and provide Syria with old military hardware.”
.. I suppose that’s why Syria is clearly WINNING and the Yankstani criminal regime change operation has FAILED. Fck but you’re stupid… Russia supplies Syria with exactly what they need and what they can operate and maintain.. unlike the US that extracts money from captive nations for over-priced expensive junk that either doesn’t work, or can’t be maintained, or usually both….
Perhaps if you spam the Russian government with emails they’ll finally do as you say Lmao.
USA and israel like dumb people. That’s why they help the stupid saudis and make war agaisnt Iran.
Build weapons. The world is not safe especially when a rabid dog is trying to kill everyone.
Israeli sources are usually better and more reliable than the American sources, I mean they usually lie less and a bit less biased (in the sense that everything Israeli is awesome and everything enemy sucks), and I don’t mean they are good and what a source should be, at all. When they blatantly lie against clear evidence, it’s a very clear sign of panic.
Debka files yesterday claimed that Israeli helicopters shoot down an “Iranian” drone but the drone which hit the ground is captured “intact”. In addition, they claimed that both pilots of the F-16 ejected and are well and healthy. AFAICS, there’s a footage that shows one pilot ejects and the pilot died in the hospital, so he’s not well and healthy at all.
So far Iran denies that the drone is ours and apparently there was a drone which crashed in the Syrian side of border in the result of Israeli fire (they have to protect their terror groups, don’t they?).
So, such string of lies tells me they are in panic mode. And as we all predicted, their thuggish uncle Sam told the world that his brat nephew (or is it his own bastard?) is right as usual and everybody else is at fault.
The Americans using old criminals tactics and statements, which is- “what ever you due and get cough, never admit to anything, just blame the victims”
Did the Israelis pull a ‘Nikki Haley’ and show the alleged Iranian drone? I missed that, I’ll have to google for that video and see the intact drone that they shot down.
BTW even if the Iranians were using a surveillance drone on the Israelis, so what? Israel has been threatening to invade Lebanon and Syria for months because of their ‘red lines’. I’d want to see if the Israelis were gathering troops.
The “federalization” (for not calling it partitioning) of the Syrian Arab Republic is fait accompli: Russian involvement in Syria has proven to be a complete fiasco since Putin’s strategy of unifying that country never came to reality despite employing his mighty arsenal of strategic bombers, cruise missiles, fighter jets, anti-aircraft systems, etc against ISIS and anti-regime forces. Better start getting accustomed to the idea of 3 autonomous regions functioning with absolute independence from Damascus (one region controlled by the Kurds, another one managed by the SDF and the remaining territories under the umbrella of the Assad regime). The real winner in this conflict is indeed Israel while the true losers are Iran, Hezbollah and the Russian energy companies that wanted to monopolize the gas distribution to other latitudes via Syrian territories.
Wank, do you really think that if you said that white is black we will believe in it? If you ignore the obvious facts about what happened in Syria over the span of 2014 to 2018 it doesn’t mean that others do.
the number of posters from Solomonia seems to increase by the day.
Perhaps you all should adopt a mirrored lens to watch events on planet Earth, so to see what actually happens and not the absolute opposite.
“since Putin’s strategy of unifying that country ” who said it was his strategy? You? Who the f are you, just another imbecile with nothing but retarded strawman arguments and cheap lies.
Most inaccurate comment I have heard on this site for a while! “Complete fiasco”! u must be icing in an alternative universe because the one im living in, I see Assad in power and loved (in its cities and populated areas) I see isis gone and defunded! I see turkey on a leash! I see Kurds begging for help and Syrian allowing Kurds to moe from Manbij to Afrin pocket! I see SAA shooting down Israeli jets. I see Def Sec Mattis claiming that no chemical attacks are being made by the SAA even tho rebels are claiming so! I see massive lands being liberated! I see winning, I see billboards of Assad and Putin everywhere! I saw DeZ liberated, Aleppo, I saw Palmyra liberated twice with a cleansing of Russian ballet! See the map turning red and Iranian bases being built! I see the SAA armed with Pantsir s-1’s that are hooked into the Russian radar systems! I see S-200’s damagingly F-35’s! I saw 2 Israeli jets shot down! I saw Erdogan write a letter to the Russian pilots family who was shot down to say sorry and send money! I saw Russian bases being built and expanded in syria, in Egypt, I saw the laying of pipes in the Black Sea (turkstream) I saw glenncore and Qatar purchase 20% shares in Rosneft! I saw the Kurdish referendum in Iraq fail! Saw the SAA with the help of Russia, rush to the border of Iraq and create a transit land Link between Tehran to Lebanon! And so much more! Is thats what u call losing? then id love to see what winning looks like, because this war is almost over! dont be surprised if the Kurds fall back to their pre-war lines! Turkey could ensure this on their own without the SAA having to lift a single finger! THINK! you’re a loser and u certainly are a wanker as ur name suggests!
ABORTION RIGHTS IN DAMASCUS!
This failed abortion victim never seem to stop yelling. Does it hurt so much being such a low life creature? Do you still hope that this time Jahve would not do the same as he did to your kind time after time, after time?
Globalist weirdos seem to think it is a Western obligation to go to war with countries who don’t share our (((progressive))) values, such as abortion on demand and gay pride parades.
Freedom of expression is worth having; legal abortion isn’t.
I agree with what you say but not that part: “Israeli sources are usually better and more reliable than the American sources”(c) 1. American sources (MSM) are owned by Jews so it is very correct to call the American. 2. Israeli sources are often hiding less – in terms that they are more open about their true ideology – chosen race, goyims purpose etc.
To sum it up – that’s the same brainwashing machine but one is a domestic version and another is an export version.
Yep I see it the same.
All I can say is, I was saddened to hear yet more terrorist supporting strikes by Israel and the US against the Syrian people and their supporters. However, I was very happy to hear of the Israeli jet being shot down and the other ones that were damaged. It’s about time that the Syrian people start shooting them out of the skies when the Zionists come to commit more war crimes over Syria. I hope Israel now stops supporting the terrorists in Syria, but if not, I hope many more of their jets will bite the dust.
both Pilots were on Israeli TV today, didn’t die. Stop making stuff up.
Here’s my source. Take your complains to them: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-israeli-pilot-shot-syrian-air-defenses-dies-injuries-hospital/
You know them personally ? You can vouch for them………….it was those pilots who bailed out ????????? Don’t be a fuckwit, they own Hollywood and can stage what ever they want you to believe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The drone was an raptor believe it was a wayward Israel drone and not Iranian design unless they use made in Israel parts and US, difference this was the one that fired into Syria trying to hit Russians at T4 base. Though Israeli Organization sources are sketchy at best and very suspect in the least. Watch a CCTV video and it showed the missile impacting on the plane as it crashed nice explosion, they may have lost more than 1 35 yr old pilot.
didnt Israel lie about their F-35 being damaged to bird strikes? Blatant lie!
“AFAICS, there’s a footage that shows one pilot ejects and the pilot died in the hospital, so he’s not well and healthy at all.”
https://www.idf.il/en/minisites/israeli-air-force/maj-gen-amikam-norkin-visits-injured-pilot/
Did this crash in Israel or the occupied territories?
Since all of Israel is a product of occupation and ethnic cleansing – technically – it did…
Equal. Whole Israel is occupied and stolen.
Al-Masdar had reported that one of the pilots died from his wounds in hospital.
why didn’t this get on SF? If Amaq “reportages” can get through I don’t see why the above cannot.
Perhaps because he didn’t die?
by the same logic, Amaq tells the truth?
a dream come true……
Looking forward to more jew warbirds being shot out of the sky. It’s long overdue that these arrogant bastards get the punch in the mouth that they have so rightly earned over the years. Let’s hope they capture some pilots alive to further embarrass the blue haired jew war pig Netanyahu, also a piece of shit that needs to be put in his place.
Such a beautiful scene.
Where’s the vid?
Although it might be difficult what would be interesting is some explanation as to why the air defences have suddenly become successful. Is chances the explanation? New tactics? New equipment? So far I have not seen any good explanations.
AND an A64 Apache too………….. things get better by the minute. IDF pilots better brush up on their parachute training, ‘cos it looks like that they are going to have to get used to it.
oh… there is much more, just hear, the sound of huffing and puffing behind the curtains, and messages, well, words are cheep, right now, as usual, ISISrael after showing them self, the Wankees, and above all, the Russians/Syria/Iran etc, etc, their latest cluster f…. witch this indeed was, and obviously not expected, but its now. Nice done, it may be an beta test, but never the less, their whining about Stone age S-200 say it all, poor schmucks.
I dont think there will be more, ISISrael got smacked, and the raving pack of loonies in the WH, is remarkable, how to put it, sane ??? ( i think I blew an fuse in my own brain, hehe) And just when things could be more idiotic and exposes the sham, when an General, an so called Joojo, uh.. and an Lithuanian shit head, with an freak from Moldova, by miracle of course since they are the chosen ones, right Trumpstein, are Semitic, hallelujah, what an miracle, whines about Iran, spices their nonsense with some Hezb bullshit, witch of course is out to kill every Joojo walking in this planet, according to the acid house formerly knows as Tel-aviv, contained obviously be the Orcs, some how, mentally since they see Iran everywhere this days, like the days when Russian was crawling behind the wall paper, in the chimneys, subs in the loo, hooohoo, and Santa is red, maybe Christmas is been hacked by Putin. Why not, everything goes in this piss-gate times.
And then we can move to what the Norwegian MSM whines about since its the Dick Assad that is Dha Bad goym sorry, fellow, as ISISrael where the Norwegian MSM claimed its Iran attacking ISISrael, like an real war, its remarkably out of touch with everything, but hey, we never lie or fake anything, right. But then again, Norway is just an petty shameless vassal, greedy f….. with no morale, an exceptional breed of ass likers and scums aka Khazars.
Whats next, yeah, let the rats jump and shout, rotten scums. But I guess they got the message.
peace
Russia assisted Assad and Iran to down a American product of F-16 in retaliation for the CIA operatives giving rebels anti aircraft weapons to down a Russian product of a SU-25. The competition between them to increase arms trade to buyers is getting heated. There are different agendas not disclosed happening here. I hope people can read read between the lines.
too much reading between the lines will make you unable to read the lines themselves.
Take Graeme for example, this individual has reached the point where it’s obvious that Secretary Mattis has said things that he never said.
Yay war footage!
Lovely sight, we need to see more like this, great job SAA, long live Assad and the Syrian people
Nicely done SAA
Something strange… The F16 crashed at night and the pilot jumped in the daytime
https://twitter.com/LTCPeterLerner/status/962234076605353984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedrive.com%2Fthe-war-zone%2F18389%2Fflurry-of-aircraft-shoot-downs-and-counter-strikes-erupt-across-israel-and-syria
We don’t know what aircraft from which the aircrew has ejected ????? The photographer says F16…………….it could have easily been another type or even a chopper, as it is reported that AH64 went down too……………….MAYBE this is a separate and unconnected event???????? MAYBE it was 3 jets the Yids lost !!!!!!
“It is reported that AH64 went down too”…..
Please point me to that report. I doubt it exists beyond the comments section of Southfront
I don’t believe they shot down a AH-64, if anything, for the reason that Israel knows better than violating Syrian airspace with helicopters.
For your info too John;- ( c/o VT ) “There was also a mention in a Sputnik article that the Israeli spokesman claimed the attack on Syria was launched after the helicopter that shot the drone down, was itself shot down. No photos or subsequent reporting has emerged to support that claim… Jim W. Dean ]
so the helicopter was supposedly shot down over golan heights? in any case, I don’t believe it, and I don’t care about those who use Sputnik or RT links to make their points more belieavable at pro-russians individuals.
The only thing I know is that there is absolutely no indication lest alone proof that the helicopter has been shot down. If someone proves it happened, then I’ll be happily believe it.
Each to their own John. This I will say however…………. if VT mention it, then just because Sputnik or RT are mentioned is NOT intended to indicate they are the source of the intel………. its not VT’s way of putting intel that they quite sure of, out there, simply because their sources are pretty fucking good………… and I say that without hesitation. If my explanation sounds obtuse to you……. that is because VT is. Gordon Duff explained in a video a while back, that Intel his outfit puts out to the public domain, sometimes needs to be muddied to save him and his colleagues from being arrested. That that as you like. Regards.
“just because Sputnik or RT are mentioned is NOT intended to indicate they are the source of the intel.”
Of course. in these cases on Sputnik and RT, you read what’s the source of the news. I agree with you fully on this point and that was the core of my previous post.
That said, the above media outlets are normally very cautious in putting their colors over news with sources less than very safe.
It’s a much different journalism from the one we are witnessing in the west and especially in the US, where sometimes you have the impression that “anonymous sources inside the X department” are invented so to display some (normally) anti-Russian news with a writing in block capitals.
The ethic level of journalism in the west has never been so low, in fact it seems to me that its the lowest point ever reached by journalism in its whole history, including nazi Germany, fascist Italy and other regimes or police states.
“The ethic level of journalism in the west has never been so low, in fact it seems to me that its the lowest point ever reached by journalism in its whole history,” Mmmm, I had to smile when I read your words………..”Ethics” and “Journalism” do not belong in the same sentence ……….. certainly since the take over of the media by the Rothschilds back in the 18th century. Its probably the same reason why I turned my TV off 10 years ago…………… and have never turned it back on since. Keep your eye on events unfolding after the crash of the internal flight in Russia two nights ago , as there are pointers towards the “Usual Subjects”.
there has been good journalists both in Europe and in the US even during the cold war. There was a kind of investigative journalism that seemed not to be subservient to “higher powers” – in fact governments invested resources in suppressing information in such ways that it would stay far away from this journalism “ears” (its sources I mean).
In some cases, the only instance of information dissemination that can be related to it today is wikileaks.
nonetheless, as you say, in all western countries the general press was far less free than how it pretended to be.
Quoted from VT;-
“There was also a mention in a Sputnik article that the Israeli spokesman claimed the attack on Syria was launched after the helicopter that shot the drone down, was itself shot down. No photos or subsequent reporting has emerged to support that claim”… Jim W. Dean ]
Thanks