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Since first being recorded in China in December 2019, the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak has spread around the world, been declared a pandemic and sent billions of people into lockdown. As the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases around the world is nearing one million, more and more draconian measures limiting the basic freedoms (like the freedom of movement and freedom of speech) of citizens are being introduced under the pretext of the need to contain the pandemic.
These swift and unprecedented changes of the social-political system around the world give rise to concerns that the world will never return to the pre-COVID-19 state and ‘temporary measures’ imposed to ‘contain the COVID-19 threat’ may turn into our new reality.
As of April 2 morning, there have been 936,865 confirmed COVID-19 cases and 47,263 deaths around the world. The United States, Italy, Spain with 215,344, 110,574 and 104,118 cases respectively. At the same time, the death rate in Italy and Spain is much higher than in the United States. This high death rate (every 8.4th infected in Italy and every 11th infected in Spain) turned the countries into a center of fear fueled by mainstream media reports designed to generate hype and attract the viewers’ attention amid the developing crisis. Bare figures provided by media without any additional context contribute to the growth of fear among the audience and justify further restrictions and emergency measures to contain the pandemic.
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At the same time, a more detailed look at the situation and commentaries by medical experts and scientists indicate that the real COVID-19 threat is lower than media paint it.
The global COVID-19 numbers are yet to overcome the average effect of influenza seasons in the United States only: 61,099 people died during the 2017-2018 season (an approximately 6-month period) and 34,157 – during the 2018-2019 season (another 6-month period).
As of April 2, the 2017-2018 influenza season killed 12 times more people in the United States than the current COVID-19 outbreak. The 2018-2019 influenza season killed approximately 7 times more people than the COVID-19 outbreak.
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The sky-high COVID-19 death toll in Italy also could be a result of several contributing factors:
1. A large part of COVID-19-infected people in Italy is constituted of older people (65yo+) that present severe underlying diseases and thus remain in the group of risk in the event of any new disease. The CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report study says that 45% of hospitalizations, 53% of admissions to the intensive care unit (ICU), and 80% of deaths associated with COVID-19 were among adults aged 65 years and older.
2. According to the report by the Italian Ministry of Health, the 2019-2020 flu season, which was marked by an unusually warm weather, led to the deaths of fewer older Italians than average. In Italy’s northern cities that have borne the most part of Italy’s more than 12,000 deaths, overall mortality among people age 65 and over was 6% below a baseline from previous years. In central and southern Italy, the deaths were 3% below normal.
Thus, elderly people and those with severe underlying diseases who were spared death by the flu and mild weather from November through January became an outsize target for the COVID-19 outbreak in February and March.
The drop in deaths from the 2019-2020 flu season led to an increase in the pool of the most vulnerable people for COVID-19. Therefore, this part of the Italians found themselves exposed to COVID-19 starting from the end of February, and that may have contributed to an increase in the impact of the epidemic on the elderly.
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The Association of Epidemiologists says that the total number of elderly dead in Italy because of the COVID-19 outbreak exceeded the mortality rate from influenza over the past two years, but this figure still has not reached the mortality rate three years ago.
The Robert Koch Institute, a German federal government agency and research institute responsible for disease control and prevention, confirms the aforementioned facts. In the report released on April 1, the Robert Koch Institute says that 86% of deaths occurred in persons aged 70 years or older.
As of April 2, there have been 77,981 COVID-19 cases and 931 COVID-19-related deaths in Germany. In comparison, the 2017-2018 influenza season affected 9,000,000 people (they requested medical aid) and led to 25,1000 deaths.
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Igor Alekseevich Gundarov, a Doctor of Medicine, professor, member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, a specialist in the field of epidemiology and medical statistics, notes that the new coronavirus expansion may be linked with the previous successes in the field of combating the flu.
The new virus simply filled the created vacuum in the virus micro world that surrounds humanity. According to Gundarov, the current crisis, which caused the pandemic of fear additionally to the COVID-19 pandemic, is the result of the specific media coverage and political-motivated decisions of particular actors.
Even countries that are almost not affected impose strict measures and limit freedoms of their citizens due to the COVID-19 outbreak. A curious situation is developing inside Russia. As of April 2, there were 3,548 COVID-19 cases that led 30 deaths only.
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There is no official data showing some kind of dramatic spread of the disease. All people that died from the COVID-19 outbreak are elderly or/and people with the severe underlying diseases (cancer, severe forms of diabetes, heart diseases, etc.):
- A man of unknown age, who died in St. Petersburg, and it was discovered that he had COVID-19 due to a post-mortem test;
- An 84-year-old woman in Moscow, who suffered diabetes mellitus, bronchial asthma and cardiovascular diseases;
- A 48-year-old-man in Vladimir region. He died on March 27th from pneumonia, he had a chronic illness and was hospitalized into the general department of the hospital in Kovrovo, it was discovered he had COVID-19 in a post-mortem test;
- A 52-year-old man in Pskov, he had severe underlying conditions in his lungs, but also COVID-19;
- A 90-year-old man in Moscow. He was suffering from chronic cerebral ischemia, encephalopathy and parkinsonism;
- A 69-year-old woman in Moscow for whom there is no other information;
- A 57-year-old man in Orenburg, who had several chronic conditions;
- A 73-year-old man in St. Petersburg, who returned from Thailand on March 1st. He suffered from several chronic conditions, including coronary heart disease and chronic heart failure, he died of acute heart failure, but had COVID-19, so he was registered as a victim of the virus;
- A 56-year-old woman in Moscow. One of her lungs had been extracted previously due to cancer, she was confirmed with a left-sided pneumonia when admitted to hospital;
- A 70-year-old woman in Moscow. She suffered from diabetes for 20 years, had terminal renal failure and other underlying conditions, she was registered as a COVID-19 victim;
- An 88-year-old man in Moscow, with several underlying conditions;
- A 73-year-old man in Moscow, also with several underlying conditions;
- A 75-year-old male in Penza with numerous chronic diseases;
- Three 76 – 86 years old people in Moscow. All patients had chronic diseases, in particular cardiovascular. Chronic pyelonephritis, bronchial asthma, chronic brain ischemia were also among concomitant diseases. Two of the patients suffered from diabetes;
- A 65-year-old woman in the Moscow region. She had diabetes mellitus, cardiovascular diseases and suffered a heart attack in 2019;
- Three 63-72 years old people in Moscow. All patients had concomitant diseases, including cardiovascular;
- An 82-year-old woman in Chechnya;
- Five people of 61 – 74 years old. All patients had concomitant diseases, including cardiosclerosis, hypertension and diabetes mellitus;
- A 59-year-old man in the Moscow region. He had chronic diseases of the cardiovascular system, kidneys and liver;
- A 45-year-old man in Pskov. Before being infected with COVID-19, he was diagnosed with lung disease;
- A 48-year-old main in Perm. He had severe oncological problems.
In response to the situation, on March 30, Moscow (official population – over 13 million, estimated – up to 18 million) was put under mandatory lockdown. Under the rules, people would be allowed to only leave home for medical emergencies or to buy groceries or medication and only from the nearest shops and pharmacies. People can still leave the capital, and go to work (if this is needed). People are restricted to an area within 100m of their home. The authorities also plan to introduce a “smart control system,” after which residents will not be allowed to leave their homes without permits.
On April 2, Moscow mayor Sergey Sobyanin announced administrative fines for violations of the regime of ‘self-isolation’ in the city. The document (a law of Moscow city) was published on the mayor’s official website. The law provides for a fine for violators of up to 5,000 rubles (~ 65 USD), and for organizations – up to 500,000 rubles (6,410 USD). Meanwhile, in another Russian region, Krasnadar Krai, a fine for violators of the regime of ‘self-isolation’ is 15,000 rubles (~192 USD) and more.
Local authorities justified the move with the need to prevent the spread of the COVID-19 outbreak and minimize possible damage from people that violate the regime of self-isolation and other important anti-pandemic measures. This is an important task. However, under the Constitution, local authorities do not have the right to introduce such restrictions.
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In the following few days, several other Russian regions introduced measures of this kind. Some of them even entered a mandatory regime of ‘administrative self-isolation’.
For example, the Republic of Chechnya announced that it is closing its administrative borders from April 5.
The Republic of Crimea announced a regime of self-isolation from April 3, establishing a checkpoint on the bridge with the mainland where all people entering and leaving the Republic are checked.
The Republic of Tatarstan overcame even Moscow. The regime of self-isolation was introduced there on April 1. People there can leave their homes only for emergency medical care, or in cases of a direct threat to their lives, visit the closest shop to buy food and other essential products, walking pets (100m from home) and move their trash to the nearest place of accumulation of waste. People can leave home for a longer distance and for a longer time only under a special permission received via a special SMS service.
Meanwhile, the government is imposing severe punishments for spreading false information about the coronavirus and breaking quarantine rules as most regions have gone into lockdown to prevent the spread of the virus. The legislation was approved by both houses of the Parliament on March 31 and signed by President Vladimir Putin on April 1.
Here is a brief overview of the new measures prepared by The Moscow Times:
What happens if you’re convicted of breaking quarantine rules?
— You will be fined up to 40,000 rubles ($640). Companies and public officials face fines of up to 150,000 rubles ($2,400), while legal entities face fines of up to half a million rubles ($7,900).
— If the violation causes health issues or death, you will be fined up to 300,000 rubles ($4,800). Companies and public officials will be fined up to half a million rubles and 1 million rubles, respectively.
— In what Russia’s consumer protection watchdog has said applies only to legal entities and public officials, quarantine dodging can also result in up to two years in prison.
— If the violation causes one death, prison terms increase to up to five years.
— If the violation causes two or more deaths, flouting quarantine rules results in prison terms of up to seven years.
What happens if you’re convicted of spreading false information about Covid-19?
— Under one amendment, you will be jailed for up to three years “for threatening people’s lives and safety” with false information. You will also be fined up to 700,000 rubles ($11,200).
— Under the other amendment, you will be jailed for up to five years “for distributing deliberately false information of public significance” if it leads to death or “other grave consequences.” You will also be fined up to 2 million rubles ($32,000).
Who can declare an emergency situation?
— Putin, and now the cabinet of ministers. In addition to the stiffer fines and long jail terms, lawmakers have rushed through bills that grant the Russian government the authority to enact a nationwide state of emergency or “high-alert regime.”
— The Kremlin said it supported expanding the government’s emergency powers. Putin has been criticized for falling short of declaring a national emergency or imposing lockdown rules similar to those now in place across U.S., European and other cities.
The measures approved by the Federal Government demonstrate that the Russian leadership fully understand the threat of fake news attacks and foreign-instigated panic, as well as treats seriously destructive actions of separate persons and organizations that intentionally ignore the anti-pandemic measures.
On the other hand, the ‘administrative self-isolation’ measures employed by some regions contribute to the de-facto fragmentation of the Russian Federation and the introduction of Orwellian control measures over people living in the key regions, like Moscow, the Moscow region and the Republic of Tatarstan. These actions of regional authorities violate both the Russian Constitution and the federal laws.
The spreading regime of ‘administrative self-isolation’ in the Russian regions seems to have been initiated by some of the regional elites (i.e.not by the federal center or Putin and his team). The way that the heads of particular regions are acting makes it look like they are implementing pre-planned actions aimed at dramatically increasing their own political power and wresting authority away from the central government.
The central government enables this behavior under the pressure of the media and political hysteria around the world or remains misinformed about the real situation.
All of these developments came in a very sensitive time for Russia, which is now passing through the constitutional reform and suffering from the dramatic fall of the oil prices. The imposed anti-COVID-19 measures also damage the local business and the job market throwing people out of their positions. In the event of the negative scenario, this may rapidly lead to the deterioration of the social and economic situation across the country.
Authorities say that introduced surveillance measures and limitations of freedoms will be canceled after the end of the COVID-19 outbreak. Nevertheless, the historical practice demonstrates that there is a nonzero probability that they will remain, or will be only partially lifted, even after the end of the COVID-19 pandemic.
The specific of the Russian political culture, a complex tangle of contradictions within the Russian regional and federal elites, as well as the fact that a significant part of the Russian elites is affiliated with the collective West contribute to this scenario.
Therefore, the developments triggered by the COVID-19 pandemic may lead to the deformation of the political and administrative structure of the Russian Federation, and lead to notable social and economic tensions. If this scenario turns into reality, the stability of the entire Eurasian region will be undermined.
Once I see an article is basically saying that Covid-19 is no different than the flu, that is it really not a big deal, I basically tune it out. These pieces quote numbers from this or that and pay no attention to what carnage the virus is actually doing. I guess I will have to put up with it for the duration, even after the effects have far surpassed flu season, overloaded the medical systems of the world and possibly mutated into something other than what is looking like something engineered by some folks in a lab in the first place.
Dear John, the data in the article is not distracting tangents. These are official data provided by scientific centers. Germany: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-04-01-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile, https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/Infekt/EpidBull/Archiv/2020/Ausgaben/14_20.pdf?__blob=publicationFile, https://influenza.rki.de/Saisonberichte/2018.pdf Italy: http://www.epiprev.it/andamento-della-mortalit%C3%A0-giornaliera-sismg-nelle-citt%C3%A0-italiane-relazione-all%E2%80%99epidemia-di-covid-19 As to the one of the leading virology schools, the Russian one, you can find a detailed explanation of the nature of the nature of COVID-19 and the current situation here: https://youtu.be/i_U0_pVY7wU Thus, the world scientific thought concluded that the threat of COVID-19 is high, but does not extend the scope of what humanity has faced in recent years. The rest is media hype and the pandemic of fear. Sincerely yours, SF Team
Dear South Front team .. That is a bizarre stance to take, you have jumped to a conclusion with only partial data! You cannot do this and expect anything remotely accurate to the final results. This article and your statement above are akin to giving the result of a Marathon race after 400 metres
Please please please do not do this, I can understand people wishing to project their beliefs and grabbing at data as proof but if the data is not finalised IT CANNOT BE USED AS ANALYSIS
Capitalist countries do not shut down almost destroying their economies for the fucking flu
Dear Damien C, we recommend you to study the conclusions made by official German, Italian and Russian research centers as well as those in the United States. The article provides you with data and conclusions made by them. As to 400m and a marathon race, the COVID-19 outbreak has been actively developing since December 2019. China has already passsed it. China has the longest borders with two states: Russia and Kazakhstan. The Chinese tourism flow to Russia is the largest one. The marathon is nearing its end. SouthFront Team is puzzled by actions of the Russian government. A few minutes ago, Vladimir Putin announced additional powers to Russian regions. He goes contrary to Putin’s policy of the previous 20 years. We would be glad to get your explanation of the essence of the gongoing developments in Russia. Sincerely yours, SF Team
Maybe Russia knows the West is going to start a major war to cover up their stupendous financial losses, and are getting ready.
The US have been moving troops and military gear to Iraq, and the ME in general since the Iranian attack on the US bases. The US yesterday, announced a special fleet for the Caribbean, very close to the worlds largest proven oil reserves, in Venezuela.
Stalin disbelieved what was obviously coming from the West in 41.
Putin is no Stalin.
Actually Putin’s handling of Erdogan reminds me very much of the denialism of Stalin in 1941, when he simply refused to believe Hitler would attack. Erdogan has been telegraphing his next offensive in Syria for weeks, while Putin refuses to see it.
Not at all, disinformation, fake news.
Stalin never bombed the shit out of German forces in Czechoslovakia before WW2. If he had, then there may have been no WW2, but seeing that Poland, Britain and France refused to allow Russian troops into Czechoslovakia to defend it from the Nazis, nor would they collaborate with the Soviets against the Nazis. In fact, as we know, Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler, GIVING Hitler Czechoslovakia.
Russia bombed the Turkish forces in Idlib, killing dozens of them.
Putin has not signed any surrender documents like the Munich Agreement with Turkey, and Russian forces are in Syria.
Big, huge difference.
Stalin never sent troops to Czechoslovakia in 1938, because of Polands refusal to join an anti Hitler pact, and also their refusal to allow Soviet troops transfer to Czech lands.
Putin has troops, aircraft in Syria, and fight alongside Syrian forces. Russia has also directly bombed Turkish forces, forcing Erdogan to crawl to Moscow for relief and a new deal.
If Britain and France had not given Hitler the OK to invade Czechoslovakia, and allied with the Soviets in 1938, WW2 would not have happened.
Russia has sworn to defend Syrian sovereignty, and are sacrificing their troops right now.
Erdogans army are a walk over waiting to happen, thanks to Putin.
Maybe you just don’t see a viable strategy here. Do you really think Putin is going to willy-nilly waste Russian blood there because he is naive? Maybe shooting fish in a barrel is easier than shooting them in a stream. I daresay even Putin wouldn’t fare very well back home if it were thought he was mismanaging this Syria conflict and wasting Russian lives. Erdo got the message when he came begging Putin for renewed ties…or have you forgotten that? Do you think attacking Turkey proper by either Russia or Syria is a good idea?
This is my take on the present situation. the problem is global effecting, and it is a coronal mass ejection flare. (CME) Hence the Su-27 and L-39 trainer crashes. However never let a good crisis go to waste SF, particularly in politics. This is why aircraft carriers are going into port, shipping stopped and military aircraft are suddenly crashing.
Do you think they were the only aircraft flying that day?
My take is the elites want a population cull, the West relies on QE, not citizens paying taxes from labour intensive industries.
We have printed more money over the last 15 years, that is needed to buy all the gold on this planet, and all the other planets in the galaxy could ever have.
What’s the price of a human being, to the Rothschilds or Gates?
Civil aircraft flights have been much reduced globally, do you think a virus would really do that? Like I said however, politicians will never let a good crisis go to waste. It’s their very own Olympics surrounding coronal virus, i.e coronal mass ejection.
It’s fear of the virus which has shut down air travel, as well as many nations putting bans in place or quarantine when you reach your destination. No point taking a weekend break to a city of culture, when it will require 14 days of quarantine to get to see it. lol
I see a major war, as how else can the bankers wipe out the artificial figures of currency they have created since de-regulation of the sector since ThatcherReagan. The rich are just figuring out a way to avoid nuclear destruction on a global scale, while culling the plebs.
I think this virus is in lieu of a big war, but something else, something even worse may follow – to make the destruction of the old deal complete before the new deal can be ushered in.
Which is why the US military are hovering over Iran and more pertinently, Venezuela.
They are holding a gun to the head of the Russians, cut your production, or the US will take the oil reserves and fuck up Russian oil sales for decades.
Let’s hope the Russians stick to their guns, and the bankers in the US realise the cost of brinkmanship on a global scale.
And that the Deep state operatives don’t go even more rogue in-between.
In Europe we are seeing a holocaust of the geriatrics.
Dear Southfront, I really need to say something, because, sorry to say it, you are on a totally wrong track (I suspect you are not scientists) and this is a vital issue. Your comparison with China is even worse, because the epidemic of the SARS-Cov-2 (the real name of the present coronavirus) was (at least temporarily, because it coud just restart) contained, with only about 80 000 infections, while when there is a flu the whole human population of the planet becomes infected (to the exception of the few prehistoric tribes still existing in the jungle or on some islands, in isolation from other humans). You may say that there were more infections that the official numbers, but so are the deaths as China, like all other countries, stopped adding the counts of people dying at home or in elderly care because the fatality numbers would be too bad (all countries I follow do the same).
Also keep in mind that at the beginning when Wuhan healthcare was overloaded, the rate of death to finished (dead or recovered) cases was 25%. Only by bringing in more staff, ventilates and medical supplies could they manage to bring down this rate to 6%. If the whole human population would be infected, the heathcare (when existent) would be overloaded, and one human in four could die from the present SARS virus, which is more malignant that the one in 2003.
Unfortunately you cannot convince sectarians with vialble arguments. Thus, I suppose, here love labour is lost.
SF, Regarding Putin’s moves – I suggest that we wait and see how it unfolds. I suggest to avoid looking at “current states” – let the process develop.
Tudor, is the ‘Moscow Times” a product of Voice of America, or some such ?
The Moscow Times are owned, somehow or other, by Dutch interests.
It’s like reading CNN.
Ronald, 90% of Russian media is owned by liberasts (I call it ruionic media). Nothing changed in that regards from late 90’s. Moscow times – I haven’t even heard of this sh$tpaper but after a brief look it is obvious that this is just another agent of influence working against Russia.
“While the World Is In Disarray, COVID-19 Is Breaking Up Russia”
I would like to get your support for this statement in the above article. Just point me to the place where this is discussed
The simple reason for Putin’s change of policy is that since a couple of days Corona is on the rise in Russia, especially in Moscow, and no responsable government can ignore fatal developments in epicenters so far.
And the way you treat data from research institutes – in case of the Robert Koch Institute, to whose reports I have been listening three times a week for the last three weeks now (being in home office in Germany myself), I can definitely state that yours is a misquotation and misinterpretation. Wieler, head of the RKI, has been more than explicit that Sars-Covid2 is not only ten times as infectuous and deadly as even the worst influenza virus we had to deal with in the last decades, which was the one of winter 2017/18, but meets populations with zero collective resilience. Without tough social distancing measures, German casualties alone would be half a million – according to the judgement of the RKI.
Current death statistics are rather vastly under-estimations, as everybody seriously interested in the truth, knows. In Bergamo, north of Italy, death rates of February and March 2020 were five times higher than in the same months in 2019.
Just speak to any doctor in deeply involved hospitals: that virus is hellish. However, conspirational ideologists feel know need to accept that there is something like naked empirical truth. They judge the world according to the question wether they personally agree with “narratives”. Their view on the world resembles strange followers of cults. Covid 19 causes lung infections of unprecedented aggression. Worst flu patients need two or three days of mild ventilation. Covid 19 patients suffer from an infectious inner burning of both halves of their lungs which then fill with liquid so that patients literally drown. Ventilation lasts often up to three weeks – if the patient survives. Many lose through change of the structure of fibres 30% of their lung volume.
If not stopped, this virus will kill a part of the human population equalling the death toll of the Spanish flu post WW1.
Dear Anja Boettcher, typically, articles like this fail to embrace several critical points you made here well: * duration of estimated intensive care – this virus attacks health system stronger than individuals – number of respirators and intensive care units is limited. Comparisons with flu are ignorant as hell (why not comparing it with AIDS?!?). This virus has nothing with flu, it kills by causing body to overreact – it’s not even lung infection that kills you first: but water pumped into lungs by immune system gone crazy.
Right, my description was unprecise at that point.
But they would destroy things for a profit, Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons – International Journal of Infectious Disease https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext The Saker reveals how China cured Wuhan outbreak with high doses of vitamine C, fed intravenously, 8,000 – 1,400 mg/day However we the plebs are not to know, http://orthomolecular.org/resources/ Then we have Bill Gates and his “solution”. https://www.globalresearch.ca/coronavirus-gates-foundation/5706842
I agree fully. But profit is not the only possible goal here. Stand back and look at the responses to this emergency. Look at the strategy employed to fight this outbreak. AFAICT, this amounts to a training exercise or dry run…as well as a financial opportunity. It even looks fully orchestrated. Countries being denied help, confiscating supplies destined for other countries, continuing sanctions at a time of emergency, possible food shortages, medical shortages, loss of income, seemingly targeted segments of society, pre-created vaccines, lack of information on easily obtained effective treatments(actually deliberately hidden), efforts by governments to reduce availability of medicine and/or protective devices. By and large, this is mainly in western or pro-western countries. Russia, China and Cuba assisting countries denied help by their own brethren? The unholy 3 of anti-western society, doing what the west is failing miserably at? China, with it’s massively overcrowded conditions of condensed population has contained and controlled the threat, giving the west a headstart on dealing with this, but they did not. There is a lot more going on here than a flu virus. One whose origin is being questioned. The west seems to be more interested in how they will be able to control the populations movements and responses to government decrees, rather than to educate and reduce the fear-porn that they are actively engaging in. This whole thing may appear to some to be merely a chaotic inept response, but in the same vein, this could also be a trial balloon. Time will tell, but I would bet dollars to donuts that changes in laws, public movement control, encouraging people to be gov rats and laws pertaining to ‘incitement’ continue far after this ‘pandemic’. When the death toll is compared to seasonal flu, the results are not alarming, except in the media. Money and the pursuit of it is likely a very large part, but gov control and it’s effectiveness is clearly being looked at, with further enforcement possibilities being considered. As others have said, the proof will be in whether these emergency measures are discarded afterwards or are retained…ala Patriot Act and Homeland Security into perpetuity, threat or no threat. One must also remember that both these monstrosities were enacted over a complete fraud…which continues until today, nearly 20 years later, with the real perps still running free and committing even more atrocities. Gee, why would people question what is happening right now?
Don’t jump to conclusions for the numbers will change many times until the flu has run its course,the only numbers that will mean anything is the finale number once the virus has run it course.Australia has changed its number 12x as new data becomes available and probably will change it a few times more.!!!
I have no problem with people dying so long as the right people, who may they be? Well old chum I value my worthless hide so my lips are sealed. Oh someone at the door, that was quick.
Hello SF. I know where you are coming from and that is fine. We all have our take. All the numbers, studies and such are cool but, they are not grasping a simple fact. To date all reported closed cases, which have either resulted in release from care or death, have a 20% death rate right as of now. Fellas, the yearly, normal flu doesn’t kill up to 20% of those infected. C’mon man. This is the stuff I am following, not the Donald or the WP.
I don’t live in the US anymore and thank God for that. I am in Santa Caterina Brasil and they are handling the situation much differently than other places. I am paying attention to the doctors down here, testimonies from victims and such. In addiction, we had family members come up with Covid-19 like symptoms in Florida, during October 2019. More so, a longtime family friend, who is a longtime professional researcher in the area of pharmaceuticals, from what they are reading and putting together from their sense, points to that this thing appears to be engineered; not bio-engineered but engineered. it is really looking like some people put this together on purpose ……………. and I have a growing feeling it was not a government who did it. Something else is going on in this picture and it will reveal itself. So my point is this: I am taking this with utmost seriousness. This is where I am at. It is why I am internalizing an article like this with a huge grain of salt.
I thank the staff at SouthFront for all it has done, on behalf of humanity. Be well.
Dear SouthFront, in case we agree COVID-19 is global media psy-op, why all national political elites were so happy to jump into it? Beside Luka, I don’t see any other example where political elite stayed cool. I need context here, or at least some thesis to speculate. In case of my country (Serbia), USA, Turkey and Russia: I can see how joining the global party works for political elites: we and USA have elections, Russia constitutional changes and Erdogan badly needs a war to win. But why Italy and Spain? Why rest of the Europe?
The tests for COVID-19 are meaningless. You are swept up in a media orchestrated panic (or are part of the orchestration). Nobody has ever seen a live virus. They have no idea what it does in a human body. There’s no proof that any virus has ever harmed anyone. Thousands of articles about it aren’t proof! How can you prove something that you can’t see? The creator of the “gold standard” PCR test for viruses complained that it was useless for diagnosing disease. He didn’t believe in the one virus=one disease theory.
Let me get this straight. A) I can test positive for the virus and be “asymptomatic.” B) I can test negative for the virus and have all the correct symptoms. C) If I test positive for the virus and have the symptoms, then the virus caused the symptoms?
This fails the smell test. A 12 year old could argue it to pieces.
Hello Sean. I do not agree with you.
Then enjoy your pandemic. You’ll get to make a lot of sacrifices to “save humanity.”
Hey Stupid, you are in the same boat as me and everybody else drop the tude.
Many thinking people are declining to climb into your boat, John. You are on your own. May you have fair winds and smooth sailing.
Your in there too George. It is the good ship Human Race we are journeying on. Fare thee well also. :)
Quit being such a scared little bitch, John. You’re letting them herd you people around like sheep. Use your head! In the 70’s this virus would’ve barely even been noticed. Yeah, some pandemic. So scary you have to be on 24/7 news and internet to even know you’re in danger.
Box head, I did 4 years in the USMC, death is part of the deal ya know. So, some jackass just being nasty, like yourself, makes me laugh ………. with the little green amphibious sea monster side of me wondering how much they would scream for mom if the pressure was on them……. especially the alligator mouth types that to which you seem to conform. You obviously didn’t read a word I said. This little blurb of yours is an off the cuff, really brain dead comment. But, it is your take and that is fine. Don’t be an idiot, keep yourself protected there skeeter. Good luck.
No. We’re not in the same boat. You’re sailing on the Global Pandemic. I’m sailing on the Global Fraud. Big difference. You’re afraid of an invisible thing. I’m afraid of getting stampeded by the panic of the herd. “There is no spoon.” https://youtu.be/uAXtO5dMqEI
Welcome to the human race Sean, get your head out o the clouds. You are starting to sound like a DoD troll.
Take care of yourself, Cupcake.
You too Sean. :)
In the United States we test for corona virus any corona virus.This distorts the figures
I doubt it. Nobody is 100% on anything. Besides, test results don’t mean anything unless the test is administered days after the symptoms are showing up. Further, testing is not a one size fits all situation. The governor of our state let that our of the bag this morning. It depends where the infections is concentrated. Be well Raptor.
Thank you and you also. Raptar not Raptor, a Latin word.
My bad Raptar.
Depends on context.
Yeah coronavirus is so scary that if you didn’t have 24-hr news and the internet, you wouldn’t even notice it! If this outbreak had occurred in the 70’s, no one would’ve noticed except medical professionals, who would have noted it was a particularly bad flu season. And that would have been the end of it! No panic, and no economic shutdown.
Your are entitled to your opinion. For you, I am a shared little bitch, as you put it. To me, you are an absolute moron. Call it even and we will see how the situation pans out in the next year or so. Good luck out there.
He’s CIA.
All he moans about amounts to why isn’t PutinRussiaChinaIran telling the real numbers, why is Putin tanking the economy, etc etc etc.
A Twat of the highest order.
As shown in this article, a recent study by the CDC regarding the use of both social distancing and self-quarantine shows that both practices are not particularly effective at reducing the spread of coronavirus:
https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-effectiveness-of-social-distancing.html
One has to question why it is that governments are so insistent on both methods given that they are not particularly effective.
no contact no virus i dont think there is another way
How about testing the people, before locking them down? Or even after 3 weeks of lockdown, as is now the case.
If the West can afford to send troops and equipment to foreign shores for wars of profit, then why can’t the West afford simple PPE for its citizens?
How come here in the EU, I can see Africans, Asians and South American poor people, wearing PPE around their population centres on TV, while EU citizens get no such equipment?
The politicians governing most Western countries were not focused on the well-being of their own fellow citizens, but rather, be it in a direct or indirect manner, on the well-being of Israeli citizens, as their being successful means having a good image in relation to some lobbies linked to or highly supportive of Israel. This is quite obvious in the USA, but is also the case in many Europeans countries, albeit not so blatantly. So they were not busy making the required preparations. Add to this several bad ingredients: – neoliberalism (the state should be involved the least, except e.g. for saving the bankers…) – Gretinism : often the bodies in charge of controlling national health have been merged with those controlling the environment, where many believe the propaganda re. anthropic CO2 and even worse re. the (more clearly inoffensive for humans) nitrogen oxydes, and these dream of reducing the human population (what better than a SARS virus more lethal than the first one) and of stopping the economics as much as possible (by blocking preparation and neutralising attempts at stopping the epidemics before you have to shut everything down)…
Don’t mention Greta, please.
My kids have heard me call that fucking rich twat out once to often. lol
This is a new virus so testing people before lockdown was not possible because there were no reliable test kits. Now, it’s too late as the virus has spread across the globe.
China finished their COVID19 rise just before the EU lockdown. They have testing gear, as well as treatments. COVID19 was already known about, and research was ongoing, to my knowledge, early last year. Labs around the world know about it.
As i said, us Europeans have no PPE, not for our family members who work in healthcare, or anyone who is told to stay at home. Policemen approach you outside, with no PPE, telling you to go home. That is just stupid, having an unchecked security force on the streets who could be spreading the virus even more. Yet I see some of the poorest nations on the planet, and they have face masks!
It all seems to be like a scene from Aliens, when the corporate rep on board tries to infect the crew before they all went into their induced sleeping mode for travel, with the Alien seeds transplanted into their bodies un-knowingly.
During WW2, all British citizens, children to OAPs, were issued gas masks in case of a German bio attack.
70 years later, we are told to self-incubate a virus, and not even a paper mask is to be given to anyone..
Abbott Laboratories has recently developed a test for COVID 19 that can be used in their existing m2000 RealTime diagnostic machine that detects other flu viruses and other crud. This new test can confirm the presence of COVID 19 in 5 minutes and it’s total absence within 13 minutes. There’s 18,000 of their m2000 machines in use around the USA so there should be more in use around the World. I believe Abbott Labs said they started production of the test kits and would be able to produce 1 million test kits a week. Roche Diagnostics developed a COVID 19 swab test by early March and has been shipping out 400,000 kits each week. Those go to labs where 384 can be tested per hour. States and cities are already arguing over who gets the Abbott Lab kits and machines. The FDA wants to send those to regions where there are few confirmed COVID 19 cases to see how many people are running around with the crud without experiencing any symptoms. I guess Abbott will then ask for some of their blood to look for antibodies.
The US is the most infected nation on the planet, with 5 confirmed different strains of COVID19. If Abbots gear is so good, then why is the US Government taking supplies from SANCTIONED Russian companies, and buying Chinese gear by paying DOUBLE the price, in cash, to swipe a planeload of gear which had been purchased by France?
CIA bollox and disinformation.
They claim “social distancing” and isolation work, BUT instead of building separate isolated hospitals for covid19 patients, they put them in hospitals with all other patients.
What an alarmist conclusion. The USSR had such travel restrictions as a permanent feature of it’s governance yet didn’t break up for decades, and then only after the travel controls were lifted. This article serves the masters of neoliberalism in Russia who’d love to destroy Russian nationalism, but it’s never going to happen. The national conscription has proceeded from all regions. Military and Rossguard traffic is still moving between military districts. I call b.s. on the article; I firmly say that this writer has an agenda and is engaging in fake news and hysteria to advance that agenda. SF should not be engaged in click bait journalism, nor should SF be engaged in violating RF law about spreading fake news and panic regarding the measures the government is taking to safeguard Russia. Was the decision to publish such an inflammatory conclusion made by persons working inside Russian jurisdiction, or by Westerners working for SF elsewhere, like London?
I checked my usual Russian sources, both state sponsored like RT, Sputnik, TASS, and Russian language sources like Vesti, EAD, RGRU, the Baltic Portal, WeapoNews, even ANNA. No one, not even a news collage site I’d never seen before and took forever to translate, had anything like this. Coverage was widespread, like Putin’s address today, trade unions nationwide calling for nationalization of enterprises, and the rise of populism among many electorates in response to the viral outbreaks and controls. Movements of the Russian navy are covered, alcohol sales in the regions are being suppressed as nonessential, the emergency measures are now extended to April 30. SF has published fake news, hysterical fake news at that, designed to support a neoliberal breakup of Russia as the cart before the horse, as a viral idea. I will compose a letter this afternoon to the Russian embassy in Washington D.C. and reference the SF article above, and ask if measures taken by the state in Russia are, in their opinion, leading to a breakup of the country. I’ll be printing the article and including it for reference. Yes, that’s called SouthFront and has an RU. Internet tag each time I’ve contributed, erroneously, to their journalism. I’ll wait for an answer.
Dear Ricky Miller, 1) First of all, please, say what data and numbers are fake in this article. You can find links to the sources in the article. 2) Second, how did you conclude that SouthFront supports the point of view of the neo-liberal part of the Russian elite? In fact, SouthFront warns about possible actions that could be conducted by this part of the elites to dissolute Russia. 3) The big international team of SouthFront and our audience also want to get a viable explanation of what’s going on in Russia. Sincerely yours, SF Team
Understood fully. Thank you for the clarity. You are not physically in Russia and are not privy to inside information that many of us seek from there. I have no doubt about your facts, it’s how those facts are assembled to present an unwarranted conclusion. The Russian Federation is a Federation, is it not? That would mean that regions and oblasts have some authority over their populations, including health and safety. And the tug of authority over the epidemic and it’s response is playing out everywhere, including the Russian political landscape where United Russia is vulnerable in future elections in a way it hasn’t been for more than a decade. Your conclusions to these events were alarmist, extremist and provided no alternative possibility, as we should expect from professionals. Use occam’s razor: is it more likely that Mr. Putin is aiding in the breakup of the RF, or more likely that central authority doesn’t want to be open to accusations of mismanagement and big death tolls by opposition political parties and opposition media in Russia, especially now that United Russia is barely a majority party? You went straight for crazy town, something I have not encountered you doing before no matter what perspective you’re presenting and where you’re physically located. Which most definitely is not inside the Russian Federation, no matter what your e-mail receipt says.
A spot on observation and a great reply.
Speaking of a break up of the Russian Federation, out of the blue, in connection with some silly virus, is sheer panic-mongering. Just voicing so far-fetched an idea bespeaks ulterior agenda. You speak with an accent in the above post, which i daresay is Russian accent. “Dissolute Russia”? Come on! Who are you?
Thanks for the compliment. I’m an American who hates my country’s foreign policy and who has grown to love Russia and her people, culture and history. I buy Russian products to support their economy, including Gzhel pottery, a Russian watch and submarine clock, and even the RT store. I thought that in supporting SF with donations that I was putting some money into the Russian economy as well, but this article established for certain that SF is not Russian and are not physically inside Russia or subject to Russian laws. If I’d wanted to support the UK economy there is an essentially British store right here in Dayton, Ohio where I could do that. The one great thing to emerge from this piece today is clarity as to who SF is and importantly who and where they’re not.
But SF speaks with a Russian accent. Not always but often. Did you spend time in Russia, speak the language?
Ricky, man, the article is fine. I read it as a contingent scenario – written to provoke reaction, offer alternative viewpoint and show where could be weak spots in RF. No need for such harsh attitude.
“Russia” should be: – Limited to the Urals. – Speaking a Yeniseian language, just like of the rest of Siberia (as it should be) – The majority, or at least plurality, of the males there belonged to Y-haplogroup Q.
Why? The true Russia (as in the Slavic-speaking country for excellence) is in the southern part of Belarus and the whole of Ukraine,
Good luck telling the Russian people where their borders “should” be. Be sure to march over and move the border yourself. Spout yeniseian language nonsense when you encounter RF border guards. I wonder which prison you’ll end up at and how good the food is going to be? Your Ukronazi attitude and an illegal RF border crossing will surely lead you to answers.
Boohoohoo, I don’t really care of these “Russians” are offended, but don’t worry, people like Pamela Geller will soon seize power at the UN and will “correct” everything by (responsible use) of “forbidden tactics.
Either way, either you like it or yes, “Russia” should end in the Urals (although it could insert influence in the rest of Siberia), speaking a Dene-Yeniseian language, and its male population Y-haplpgroup Q-dominated, even those borders that you brag about. Lolololol!
*Trollface*
Russians are Russian speaking and seem just fine with it. You are the one out on a limb, a tangent. Hello, it’s the 21st century and nearly no country has some pure classic language or language unity. Italians don’t speak Latin and 25% of the U.S. population speaks English as a second language, if at all. Russia is just fine as it is. The UN? Now that is a joke. The UN does not even enforce it’s own charter and is more useless than the old league of Nations. Oh, FYI Russia and China have permanent UNSC veto power so no one is going to use the UN to do anything to either. Face it loser, Russia won the Slavic big brother game. He grew to be ten feet tall and gobbled up a giant chunk of Eurasia. Your Ukraine is the runt of the litter and is currently busy selling it’s soul to the Neoliberal corporate homosexual empire. That’s reality, cold and hard.
Too bad, if Pamela Geller will seize power in the UN, “Russia” (should be Dene-Yeniseian-speaking, Y-haplogroup-dominated and concentrated in the Volga Basin) and “China” (should be Uralic-speaking, Y-haplogroup N-dominated and revered the Yellow River more) will be replaced in the Security Council by Germany and Japan (or even Korea), because, well, they’re troublemakers.
Anyway, FYI: The majority of the so-called Arab League countries are not even Arab historically and linguistically, so they deserved to be suspended from the UN, as well as most of sub-Saharan African countries (until their borders are corrected according to the dominant language family.)
In any way…. *Trollface*
PS: I know it’s 21st century, but studying ancient history could be beneficial as well. Boohoo!
Yak yak yak and nonsensical. BTW, no one can “take over” the UN. The UNSC has the only real authority there and both Russia and China have permanent member status and veto wielding power. Just another reality you skip right past in your proclamations of fantasy and language-isms.
Really?! I don’t think so…
We really need people like Pamela Geller to govern to UN and weed out “punks” like China and Russia, replace them with Germany and Japan, because, well, the current UN leadership is so-so…
The United Nations is structured and governed by the United Nations Charter. It would be impossible for any one person or country to replace UN member states, especially two permanent members, both of whom have veto powers on the Security Council. What you suggest is both childish level reasoning and nonsensical.
Don’t worry, if Pamela Geller and company replaced the current UN leadership, they’ll amend the Charter to either suspend/expel member states (African countries in the former, “Arab” League countries, China and Russia in the latter), including the possible expansion of UNSC (without Peking and Moskva, of course).
PS: – African countries should be rearranged based on language/s (think of the Central African Republic as an example) – The majority of so-called Arab League countries are not historically Arab (Berber, Coptic, Akkadian, Aramaic, Canaanite, South Arabian)..
They can’t amend the UN Charter without both Russia’s and China’s consent. They won’t get it. They could dissolve the UN and divide the world up into those states that still support the old UN and multilateralism and the states that follow into an American led “International” organization but that would fracture NATO for sure, and divorce the EU from the U.S.
Yes, please do that. Storm out of the UN, America. Juan Guido will go with you. It’ll be like the scene from Jerry McGuire.
Under Pamela Geller and company’s leadership, they don’t need those two states; they NEED GERMANY and JAPAN.
PS: I shall give you the Circassian flag, my dear Russophile. And oh, “Russia” ends in the Urals, and speaking a Dené-Yeniseian language.
Nonsense fantasy. And one nonsensical comment too many. Blocked…
Even though the break-up of the Russian Federation is a top US priority, it is doubtful that Russia will break-up. Iran has been subjected to far worse pressure and is faring better than the US, even according to the WHO, Iran is “significantly better than in the US,” despite Washington’s adamant refusal to lower economic sanctions frustrating trade with Iran, which have made buying medicine and equipment for hospitals difficult. Russians like Persians are nationalistic people and will hold fast.
bullshits2
Horseshit. Now, what were you trying to say, excrementally?
Pro western neoliberal elite of Russia is a loser horse as western countries and the neoliberal globalist system will not survive after the Covid-19 crisis…
I hope you are right. There is always hope for justice and reform.
This is right on.
bullshits
Horseshit. Now what were you trying to say, excrementally?
Well spotted Ricky. It’s not a typical SF article at all. It’s long as f**k and has a quote from the Moscow Times ffs!
Paid content perhaps?
More like a troll imo. ;)
#FilmYourHospital
Magnetic Storms Affect Humans As Well As Telecommunications https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Magnetic_Storms_Affect_Humans_As_Well_As_Telecommunications.html
Mother will not break, title of article is unfortunate.
1.000.000 people with COVID-19 (of which the large majority recovers)….on a total global population of 7.600.000.000….Corona is bullshit…
LOL Said the pussy staying at home lol
Hahahaha…another Cunt…I have been outside 24/7 even before this whole Flu-thing started…Already got Corona…Everything fine & Under Control…so I guess you can consider me a Field-Expert…and I say:
CORONA IS BULLSHIT! JUST TO CREATE AN ECONOMIC CRISIS…nuttin’ mo’
What a nasty and petulant child you are. Good grief, kid!
dodo = אהרון
He is a Roman Catholic Irish German descendant: Baron Aaron von Totenfeld zu Arschloch IV Sr…first degree mason, Jesuit & childmolester
Yes, isn’t he great !
Watch your filthy language, knave! Everything is under control? *points at HH* Ahhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I do agree with you on one point. My Russian friends do believe that Russia ignored the threat to cull its pensioners. Cruel. In America and Japan, the elderly are the wealthiest segment of the population.
You call me a pussy…I call you a cunt…I cannot see any difference…what’s the problem?
Because you are one!!!!!
That ain’t a pussy in my avatar…that is the ancestor of a dog…but your avatar tells me you’re a Cunt…
Ok filthy deku.
And I it also indicates the relative size of your brains and intelligence…besides humanity, Adolf. Oh, Adolf petted one of your kind a lot and then tested the cyanide pill on him for effectiveness. Your hero…
Hahahahahaha…pathetic little AngloZioNazi Paedophile…it is so lovely to see you fuckers going down…I enjoy every moment of it!
PS Hitler was a Jew…a Rothschild Bastard
I missed this before. You are admitting that your ancestor is a dog? That takes a certain amount of confidence in one’s own stupidity. That’s cool. You owned it. Nice.
Nana-Chan is also BS and a very poor troll. what an admirable combo.
I’m BS? DFOQ that mean? Don’t be a dummy, dummy.
Never mind chicken little everything thing will be fine once the virus is contained,smart move on their part to limit the spread of the virus,worked in China and will work in other places just as well.!!!
I don’t trust german data,something not right about the german tally and after russia did good,suggenly more cases of the sudden that usa?
Didn’t official ww2 rop secret us docs recently revealed cccp lost 7 million not 25,6,7 million like the western supreme white skeletor historian masins dream about,just to make christians look dumber?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHUqNCDwQj4
This article is nonsense. The writer wants “proof” that situation warrants drastic measures. By the time you have “proof” you are already out of control, because your current picture is picture from two weeks ago (incubation period). In the meantime your current situation is exponentially worse. Just ask Mr. Trump, or Italian prime minister whether they would be happy to react sooner. Of course events like this change the society, but in retrospect the ones that acted fast and decisive will do much better long term, comparing to the ones that are all over the place.
Don’t we need any proof that viruses actually cause disease? Don’t we need any proof that the tests are reliable and meaningful? Don’t we need any proof that they’ve actually found the right virus?
There is no right virus, it is a novel (new) virus, that is why there is no vaccine and no antibodies.
There’s several strains of coronaviruses that cause influenza. This new one is number 19.
“Nevertheless, the historical practice demonstrates that there is a nonzero probability that they will remain, or will be only partially lifted, even after the end of the COVID-19 pandemic”… Just wondering when the author say “historical practice demonstrates” was he referring to the cancellation of civil liberties and freedoms by enacting the “Patriot Act” ?
I’ve told you before and i’m telling you again: don’t hold your breath. Russia will stay in one piece. People will get more united, if anything. You eggheads are overreaching.
I loved the way Russia United and even got stronger, back in 2014. Following the sanctions and Crimea returning home.
Gave so much strength to many of us observing things, expecting a thermo-nuclear war, any day. 6 years later, still expecting worse case scenario, however, the strength and actions of your average Russian person and leadership team, has a seriously calming effect on many of us.
Best wishes, take care and stay strong. It spreads haha.
Thanks and kudos! I have to warn you though. It is a precarious proposition to idealize Russia even a little. Russia is a bitch in her own right, a criminal capitalist beast that has “learned capitalism from the best”. Crimea coming home was nice though. I went there in july 2017, had a fabulous holiday in Sevastopol.
There is good and bad everywhere. The goodness coming out of Russia is like a breath of fresh air and gives us hope.
With regards bad, no nation is perfect and no human is perfect.
Goodness? Do you mean the invasions or the occupations? The civilian deaths on MH17 or the 15,000 people murdered in the Donbas? oh..I suppose there are the assassinations in Britain?
What invasion Nana? Are you crazy? I will reply with what Putin told Barroso back then:”If I wanted to invade Ukraine I could be in Kiev in 4 days” Who murdered who in Donbass, are you out of your mind? Regarding MH17 you should know by now that it was a setup to blame Russia or the independent republics. Facts matter.
LOL I love idiots like you that only use Russia Insider as a source. It appears that you haven’t seen the Russian government’s documentary on its invasion? LOL Putin explains why he invaded Ukraine. Putin. Commander Girkin has also described how he led Russian forces from their leased Trojan Horse naval base in Crimea into Ukraine to arrest civilian and military leaders. He then explains how he led Russian forces into the Donbas. How could you not know this? LOL Only a fool comments on something he knows nothing about. LOL Girkin is literally on trial for shooting down MH17. LOL Oh Boris, you are an idiot! LOL
I always wondered why we refer to Russia, as Mother Russia.
I remember a state official threatening me with all types of disasters with my children and ex wife 25 years ago. I mocked them with the phrase, this isn’t the USSR, Mother Russia couldn’t get away with that. The bossman in the room then told me to be not so smart with my answers, and the prick who used those threats to me sunk their head with embarrassment, and left the room. I won, end of stupid threats. Like you AM, 2014 was a wake up call. I now see Russia as the saviour of us plebs, as our own leadership are bought and paid for while the bastards are still attending their private nurseries. I think Musk and Bezos are complete fucking assholes, who couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper bag, but they were chosen so as to continue the American way, you know, if you work hard enough, you will succeed. Poster boys for a failing capitalist system.
I still cannot figure out how Bezos is a 100 billionaire, for doing what the Postal Services had being doing for decades. The postal services in Western economies are the worst since the Pony Express, yet DHL, FedEx and Bezos make a fortune from simple deliveries.
This self incubation period is making me want to do a Pol Pot ffs. lol
I always refer to nations in female gender form. Don’t know why, but, I think it goes back to school. Although female, I am not out of the 20th century, fascist feminist club, so it would be owing to feminist tendencies.
Like the way you reminded the officious, overbearing, dictators in the room of how they were behaving. No doubt today, they would not even have the grace to leave the room.
Feel the same as you as Russia being the voice of reason and how we need her strength.
Wish them all the best as still believe in hope and good overcomes evil.
I have never heard any other nation referred to by foreigners, as Mother. But since I was young, the term Mother Russia has cropped up many times. Maybe the cradle to grave aspect of Communism drew that response, but no one refers to France, Britain or the US as Mother. The Mother of parliaments moniker has been allocated of course, to Westminster, but that was always understood to be a self named title by EnglandBritain to placate their overseas colonies.
I have a smart mouth with officials. I referred to my Ophthalmologist friend as Fred Shipman one time. It drew sniggers from the junior people, but the seniors can’t have those types of comments being made, denigrating their hero, and benefactor. Comes from my army days, when I realised that the DFR, Defense Force Regulations, gave me rights, as well as being the tool of discipline. Barrackroom lawyers, as people like me were called by the officers who were put in their place, by their own rulebook.
Good talking AM, keep incubated. lol
IIRC, Bezos (Amazon) made it’s fortune by getting a percent off the transaction. Now, they have other avenues for revenue such as cloud based services.
He delivers parcels ffs, which made him a billionaire.
How is it that no postal service on our planet, could ever return hundreds of billions to its owners? And postal services are operating before Bezos grandfather was born.
This is all financial trickery. Smoke and mirrors, and Jeff got the lucky spot offered to him by whoever arranged for it to be profitable to start an industry, against a long established, state provided service.
Why would they offer a percentage to a competitor? Bezos took 100 billion dollars away from the postal services, I can’t see any industry being so stupid to allow such profits accrue to a guy, we are told, started off from his home. It doesn’t add up, Archimedes couldn’t make that money selling his timeless inventions ffs.
Re-read my last post again. More slowly this time.
He delivers parcels ffs
NOT initially. Today is a different story as Amazon have expanded their operations.
Why would they offer a percentage to a competitor
See link for details: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Amazoncom
Excerpt of article:
Amazon.com famously started as a bookseller, Bezos contended from its start that the site was not merely a retailer of consumer products. He argued that Amazon.com was a technology company whose business was simplifying online transactions for consumers.
So let’s just ignore his founding billions?
If I rob a bank, and then start a cloud service, the police would be asking me, where did you get the money to start off with.
But Bezos made enough selling books from home!
Are you for fucking real or what?
Was Bezos the first book seller in history?
Alright who deleted my comment?
Reposting #1:
Re-read my last post again. More slowly this time.
He delivers parcels ffs
NOT initially. Today is a different story as Amazon have expanded their operations.
Why would they offer a percentage to a competitor
Source: www DOT britannica DOT com / topic / Amazoncom
Amazon.com famously started as a bookseller, Bezos contended from its start that the site was not merely a retailer of consumer products. He argued that Amazon.com was a technology company whose business was simplifying online transactions for consumers.
If you knew the history, Bezos started off as a hedge fund manager.
Reposting #2:
Alright who deleted my comment?
Re-read my last post again. More slowly this time.
He delivers parcels ffs
NOT initially. Today is a different story as Amazon have expanded their operations.
Why would they offer a percentage to a competitor
Source: www DOT britannica DOT com / topic / Amazoncom
Amazon.com famously started as a bookseller, Bezos contended from its start that the site was not merely a retailer of consumer products. He argued that Amazon.com was a technology company whose business was simplifying online transactions for consumers.
Someone is deleting our comments now. I’ve created a new thread in this article comment section with my response.
No one is deleting anything, but you are filling the page with repeats.
Using another web browser. Removed the two oldest posts. My third post is my latest comment which also answers your latest post.
In Summary, Bezos started off as a hedge fund manager (like Soros) and used his fortune to start an online marketplace that sells books. For every book sold, Bezos get a percentage of the sale. Think ebay. It’s no different.
Go to britannica DOT com / topic / Amazoncom for the history of Amazon.
And contribute to Bezos. No fucking way. I have never used Amazon, PayPal, and no way could I afford a Tesla, but if I could, I still wouldn’t. The car makers already here offer a wide choice already.
Musk started off with PayPal, now he’s a car producer, rocket maker and tunnel borer. He’s also as thick as ten ditches ffs. Who goes on tv smoking a joint and fucking up share prices, but would still be considered a genius! No way would you get me fucking a film stars wife, while cctv cameras are looking at me, but Musk does all these stupid things. This is not eccentric behaviour of a bright person.
Bezos the same, fucking a big mouth money grabber, but he thought that wouldn’t come out neither! No bother, hand over half the fortune to the wife, 50 billion, but still he’s worth supposedly, 100B.
Musk is a front for US military projects, he’s supposed to be building a rocket to take people to space, something the USG and Russia, China and India have managed to do, decades ago. Yet he uses russian engines in his design, complimenting them greatly, and still has not got an actual rocket with men up there yet!
Henry Ford built cars, Edison first to enter the electricity industry, these guys it is easy to see how they accrued such wealth.
These other guys, invented no new industry, they are offering nothing that wasn’t there before in other guises, but they get massively rich!
I don’t buy it. They are fronts for fucks sake.
Musk was the first to design a rocket that could do a controlled upright landing back on the ground or on a barge floating in water.
How many people were on board?
When did regular service start?
Re-usable rockets have been around for DECADES YOU STUPID MORON.
Musk is not a designer, he’s a FINANCIER.
He has no experience in designing rockets, he employs specialists to do that. He doesn’t design cars neither, nor boring machines, he started off his billions with PayPal.
I don’t remember Yuri Gagarin or John Glenn starting off as insurance salesmen before becoming cosmonauts.
Hey Bill, another failure, just 3 months after the last failure, of the rocket Musk promised, over 10 years ago!
LOL This is hilarious. )))))
Don’t hold your breath. Russia stays in one piece. People will get more united if anything. You are overreaching.
CIA trolls and hasbarats are crying and raging…
Click bait article. Stopped reading after 4 paragraphs, owing to article having nothing in common with headline. A headline that had already wound me up.
Has South Front decided to become a clone of CNN?
lot of bullshits!
SF is falling, and falling, and falling in quality :(
Surprised by the article and disappointed.
Please, send this very stupid author in gulag!
Who the heck keeps deleting my comments to rightiswrong rightiswrong?
Reposting #3:
In response to your missing post:
If you knew the history, Bezos started off as a hedge fund manager.
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Alright who deleted my comment?
Original post:
Re-read my last post again. More slowly this time.
He delivers parcels ffs
NOT initially. Today is a different story as Amazon have expanded their operations.
Why would they offer a percentage to a competitor
Source: www DOT britannica DOT com / topic / Amazoncom
Amazon.com famously started as a bookseller, Bezos contended from its start that the site was not merely a retailer of consumer products. He argued that Amazon.com was a technology company whose business was simplifying online transactions for consumers.
I’m surprised Russia tanked its own economy over this overblown coronavirus. I thought Putin was more savvy than that.
Worry about the USA Mr CIA man.
unfortunately the inferiority of amerikans is poorly understood, unless one has an awareness of culture, sociology, history….and history always shapes culture, examined in the amerikan context by cultural historians Morris Berman (amerika was a bad idea from the beginning), Gary Cross “growing up in ameriaka is largely an education in shopping”, Richard Hofstadter “amerikans have always been hostile to education and anti-itellectual”. HE DESCRIBED AMERIKAN Academics as “technicians that serve power that have a thin understanding of everything”…as Georgi Derlugian wrote recently, “amerikan academia is far more effectively censored than was Soviet academia”—expected in a police state puritan empire near collapse…of course everyone perceives amerikans to be extraordinary insecure—Ruchard Sennet, Christopher Lasch (the culture of narcissism), Daniel Boorstin—“amerikans live in a thicheicket of illusions—they demand illusions about themselves…amerikans don’t travel—they only tourist in order to see themselves in the mirror”….to comprehend how remarkably different Russians r from amerikans read the ethnographies by the anthropologist, Geoffrey Gorer ‘the amerikan people’ and the ‘people of great Russia’
who writes this crap? the title of the article say nothing and offends a serious reader who expects to read words in support of the headline. instead one gets a regurgitation of yesterday’s news.
followed by a list of dead people that were already half-dead from other diseases. then there are the rules and penalties for breaking the rules. then there is speculation that corona is not good for RU. no s**t sherlock. i think the writer is suffering from something more seroius than corona. it is called terminal stupidity. this site is very much in one’s face to cover its monthly budget. articles like this don’t support their efforts.
yeah. they write too much crap and expect some cash in return
Very disappointed in SF to buy into conspiracy instead of focusing on clear failures of the imperialist to protect their citizens. Why not post something about the herd mentality mentality that will lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths. There is two clear factions in this war the eradication and the mitigation crowed. This is opportunity to expose the cruel and stupid western governments sadly lost with a bizarre conspiracy story that only buys into the sociopathic herd immunity faction driven by global corporations.
People been bombarded with all kinds of contradicting theories and fake news, should try pierce through the fog created by jews controlled USNato.
If this COVID isn’t an bioterrorism with serious long term effect like HIV Trojan horse to breakdown immune, a perfect population culling bioweapon from Pentagon’s patented attenuated Coronavirus, China won’t take up draconian action to lockdown its 1400M for 2mths.
This cost astronomically with tremendous hardship, risking destabilizing CPC leadership. The damage to its economy & supply chain is so severe, almost allow USNato to isolate it globally and stripped its supply chain to permanent destroy China economy.
https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-latestcoronavirus-research-reveals-that-the-virus-has-mutated-gene-similar-to-hiv-and-is-1,000-times-more-potent-
Russia is just been fortunate that Putin had openly warned on USM wide collection of Russian DNA samples. This make US hesitate to launch bioterrorism on Russia ground fearing unknown retaliation. US knew Soviet had the best offensive biowarfare system for defense.
The few cases of Russia wasn’t worth to rush lockdown initially, that may stir fear to overwhelmed hospitals unnecessarily. Russia preparation has been actively on going with capacity & new hospitals building up over last few mths.
But as the world went into lockdown mode now, there are nothing much to do for these few weeks. So its good time to do nation wide lock down to weed off all potential cases like China. Once over, Russia can focus on its economy & geopolitical game like China safely.
This is very sound policy of Russia, although it should do it more strictly like China to close all loopholes and clean up completely.