Moment of sinking Moskva
The flagship of the Russian Navy’s Black Sea Fleet, the missile cruiser Moskva, sank on April 14, 2022. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the cruiser sank as a result of a fire, which in turn led to the detonation of ammunition; the causes of the fire are not named. However, pictures from the crash site show that the real reasons for the sinking are still unknown for sure.
Many military experts are inclined to the opinion that the true cause is most probably the missile strike of April 13, 2022 by the Neptun missile system of the Ukrainian Navy. Thus, the Moskva is the largest warship ever taken out by a missile.
Despite the successful actions of the Ukrainian troops, who claimed media superiority over the Russian warship, the main contribution to the shipwreck was made by Russia itself.
According to a military expert, the cruiser Moskva had significant problems even before the start of the special operation in Ukraine. First of all, despite the technological superiority of the Russian Navy due to having good air defense systems, anti-ship missiles, torpedoes and radar systems the training of the crew left much to be desired. The Fort (S-300) air defense systems installed on the cruiser allow for effective elimination of air targets. However, this requires a high level of skill of the ship’s personnel. The Russian command’s statements about the proper level of training of its crews turned out to be a lie, as the disaster on the cruiser Moskva demonstrated.
If you pay attention to photos of the sinking ship, you can see that it was struck by two missiles. The first hit the dining room area, causing considerable damage to the ship’s manpower and provoking a fire in the engine room. The second hit the helicopter hangar, but did not explode, as can be seen in the photo. It is also obvious that the Fort and Osa surface-to-air missile systems are in a marching position, indicating that the ship is not operational.
The main indicators of the disaster on the cruiser Moskva
And even taking into account the above circumstances, judging by the photo, the ship has not lost its “survivability”, it is not critical, the main combat elements are intact. Reasons for urgent evacuation of the crew probably just did not exist. However, we can see that all the lifeboats are launched. It is also obvious that no rescue measures were applied to the flagship, because even the portholes were left open, which is a gross violation and probably one of the reasons for the final sinking of the ship. Especially if one considers the information about the storm that occurred to be credible.
It should also be remembered that the cruiser Moskva was commissioned in 1982. Despite the fact that its overhaul was carried out from 2017 to 2019. This raises questions about the quality of the modernization of the cruiser. Its main problem is the lack of capabilities to hit low-flying targets. It could have been solved by installing the prospective Tor-MF SAM on board. However, due to different circumstances this was not done. First of all, because the development of SAM was not completed. Hence there is a question as to whether the deployment of the cruiser in the field of low-flying anti-ship missiles deployed by the Ukrainian Navy or supplied by the Western countries was worthwhile. According to Maxim Klimov, a military analyst, the cruiser was hit by Kh-59M missiles of the Ukrainian air force fired from an Su-24M bomber. At the same time, it is excluded that it was hit by the missiles from the territory of the neighboring Romania. It is obvious that despite the recent decisions on the new NATO expansion towards Russia (at the expense of formerly neutral Finland and Sweden) the West does not intend to openly participate in the conflict with Russia and is fighting “to the last Ukrainian”. This is evidenced by the expansion of military aid in the form of finance and weapons. The arrival of mercenaries also cannot be regarded as an act of direct NATO participation in the war.
Kh-59M cruise missile
It is also worth mentioning that Moskva’s participation in the operation was approved by the leadership of the Russian Navy. The commander of the Black Sea Fleet personally inspected the ship and was satisfied with the work of the air defense systems. However, in a real combat situation, a disaster occurred, which the Russian warship was unable to prevent.
Also the decisions made by the command of the Russian Navy regarding the deployment of ships in the Mediterranean region remain unclear. Unique in their equipment the ships such as Admiral Kasatonov occupy now vulnerable positions in terms of their participation in the possible conflict with NATO. The fleets of these countries can obviously suppress it with their own forces in the Mediterranean Sea, since the countries belonging to the alliance are in the majority in the region. Furthermore, given the beginning of deteriorating relations in Scandinavia, the absence of a ship in at least its home port looks very strange.
Thus, the beginning of the end of Moskva cruiser was set long before the missile attack. This once again shows the problems in the Russian Armed Forces, about which it is customary to remain silent lately. The consequences of possible corrupt practices also contribute to a negative development for Russia in Ukraine, where a short and successful operation would have been possible with the proper attitude.
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Even the effects down to the EMP effect are depicted in this scene.
Remember fear is their (the globalist elite’s) greatest weaponry, as we have seen with the alleged virus and mandatory jabs. There will be no nukes because even the globalist parasites could survive a full on WWIII. What you are seeing is all going to plan where the West and that includes the US is being deconstructed and bought off (wealth transfer from the people to the scumbags) and this is happening in Ukraine as it did in Iraq. Now at the risk of sounding arrogant, I have called this 100% spot on, even called the next moves for years; but the one thing that still is outside my understanding is IF Russia, China, Iran, NK and their allies are part and parcel of the UN 21 / 30 and Great Reset, or if they have woken up to the fact and are starting to resist it. BEFORE YOU CHASTISE ME – Russia were the first on the jabs, for an imaginary virus (does not exist), they have brought out ID cards and social credit by stealth and they are following all the rules …. on the flip side, they want to leave the WTO and WHO allegedly …. I hope to God they are genuine as the last stronghold of Christianity and the white race, but I do not know. Remember the Kalgeri plan ?.
I would argue that President Putin was informed of Covid and he ordered a Russian vaccine. Sputnik V was the first and only ‘vaccine used in Russia. The alternative would have been Russias use of Phizer, Astra Zeneca etc.
We now know that Western vaccines caused many deaths and continue to do so.
Russian vaccines caused no serious side effects.
President Putin has saved the Russian people from the enduring and potentially long term Western Kill Shots.
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You re stupid, you can t argue. Ano no Moskva did not sank himself 😂🤣🤡
I agree.
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Thanks, I take your warning and I don’t trust you,
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8D chess!! Fake news SF Moskva is still being towed to Sevastopol guys
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A ship of that size should have never been sailing too close to enemy lines without additional ships. A chain of miscalculated and poorly executed factors led to her demise.
It’s clear that the Moskva was taken by surprise whatever events sent it to the bottom. As flagship I would have it escorted by other ships and air assets so that massed surveillance and AA fire support could anticipate and defeat attacks. If necessary a smaller ship would sacrifice itself to missiles rather than let the Moskva be successfully attacked. If these conditions were not met, then this is a tactical and operational failure of command.
These are suppositions/assumptions. The Russians know exactly what happened. However, for a ship that old and didn’t explode before, why now during wartime? It must have definitely been struck.
Yet it never had a fire on board before, fires do happen on ships, fairly often too. I would wait until the ship was brought up and properly examined before I would accept any story of missiles.
For if there were missiles given US satellite coverage we would have had videos of the hits nonstop. T shirts, mugs, key rings, you name it with pix of the ship in flames. Ukraine is fighting a PR war, those photos would have been priceless to them. So no photos means no missiles.
Russian top level leaders and military generals are incompetent for their respective jobs. Russian weapons are useless junk.
Why is SF hiding the name/s of the author/s of this “briliant analysis”?
A BRAND NEW GUIDED MISSLE CRUISER
China commissioned 8 brand new guided missle cruisers last year. Fully fitted with state of the art weapons and defense systems. This 42 year old vessel can be replaced quickly if necessary.
It sounds like the head of the Russian Navy, may be killed in action soon……
He was imprisoned today.
All recent opinion articles come without name of the author. Does it means it’s the SF team’s opinion? Or that the author has no pride nor balls to write his name below his work? We don’t know. But I know for sure that I’m not gonna send any money anymore to support this anonymous work.
They go unnamed to protect themselves for troll abuse and threats. I would have thought that obvious to all, even someone hiding behind BM-21 Grad.
Well, then they can go post their anonymous opinions on reddit if their afraid of doing so. Here they are getting paid for it and putting a name on an article has something to do with professionalism.
Artical has no name of author. Sorry guys, this is not going to fly.
Why does it matter? It was authored by someone, does knowing a name give it credibility?
The alternative is an Arrow III type munition struck the ship from a ballistic trajectory. It could have been fired from anywhere within 2400kn, like Germany or Israel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MDa5ZPfu80 Iron Dome, Arrow 3, Armed Drones l Germany Turns To Israel To Bolster Defence Amid Putin Threat
Are you also in the camp of people who believes everything that happrns in the world ( possibily the universe also?) Is some sort of zionist master plan right? I dropped an egg in my kitchen today, the jews…tssstt
Ballistic never. Look at the damages. They are from horizontally flying projectiles not vertical ones like ballistic would have come down.
Hay otro analisis que niega el impacto de misiles. Lo extraño de todo esto es que, ningun satelite detecto lanzamiento de misiles desde la costa, ni rusos ni norteamericanos. Solo 48 horas despues, E. Unidos habla del misil. Tampoco creo, que siendo varios barcos en la zona, ninguno haya detectado el lanzamiento. Sigo creyendo en un fallo de seguridad o probablemente, el incendio y explosion que se produjo dentro del buque, podria haber sido provocado por una mina nautica.
WHO is the Secret Military “ANAList” writing this “Beating a Dead Horse” article and why now ??? It just feeds the Rumors Fire of South Front being Controlled Opposition. Missiles strikes do not leave round holes in a struck ship. Is this a Balancing Article in times of a Nasty Russian Victory ???
What shaped hole does it leave?
Just look at a number of Ships Hit with Missiles and you will see the bent steel plate around a meter o two meter ragged hole. https://external-preview.redd.it/UQ1wfYiBrziE_NQqSoLFt7NuhIxi9UMdttLZZhr9Owo.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=acc695afbcb4f26c203249c76835e3410f5ca2f0
I am going to write to the Russian Govt stating that South Front is talking bad about the military! That should come with some jail time right?
Here is southfront, Russia must always win at everything, it cannot be that they have losses and make human judgement errors right? Of course any russian losses are just fictional propaganda, video trickery, zionist holograms directly beamed into our heads from the covid vaccines microchips right right? This is a war, of course russia has losses, no amount of denial and the incoming abuse at this comment will change it so why not accept it and move on? Thanks
The Putin whore club don’t tolerate dissent. Or bad news. They minus things that go against the wilting propaganda. According to them Putin rides velociraptors to work lol
I have gone thru both narratives, and it does look like the Mosckva was hit by a missile. Yes these things happen during a war and the incident did little to change the tide of the war, which is strongly in favour of Russia annihilating the encircled Ukranian troops in donbass. Russia, like Ukraine is an oligarchy and this can have negative influence on some aspects of the war due to corruption. Anyway it is an old ship and was going to be replaced sooner or later.
Russia navy needs to spending it’s budget on warships that are successful, these are the 2,000 ton displacement missile corvettes, 4,500 ton guided missile frigates and the Yassen-M class SSGN’s. Not aircraft carriers or cruiser destroyers. The two existing Kirov-class nuclear powered battlecruisers should serve as the battle group flagships.
Try as I might, I can see no signs indicating missile strikes on the ship.
Readers can see what real missiles do to ships here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=damage+missile+ship&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjYnqKirez3AhXajtgFHZ_gAf8Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=damage+missile+ship&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIGCAAQHhAIOgQIIxAnOgUIABCABDoGCAAQHhAHOggIABAeEAcQBToICAAQHhAIEAdQqw5Y2TVg-jhoAHAAeACAAagBiAHlCpIBAzAuOZgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=7KGGYtj4NNqd4t4Pn8GH-A8&bih=620&biw=1162&client=safari
Thank you that link was very helpful.
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Fuck off SF, I am off. I cannot be arse with this shit. YOU ARE BRILLIANT REPORTING THINGS, but get it out to the people with a decent comments section THAT DOES NOT make me verify a comment I fucking made. Enough
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Always sad when a ship goes down. The ship could have been saved. Would not want to be the captain.
LOL! That’s no kh-59m cruise missile on that photo.
Operational and training level of Russian Navy not really good. Lots to do to make RF Navy operating better in future.
This is some terrible “photo analysis” may I remind the author that if you want to see what a missile strike looks like, it looks like the pictures of HMS Sheffield look. You don’t have 2 little black dots as an entry wound, metal buckles and sheets go flying when explosively removed from the side of a ship.
I still haven’t seen anything that gives a good reason to believe this ship was hit by missiles. The damage is not as significant as other ASM strikes on ships, and if the Ukrainians were actively using ASMs against Russian ships off the coast, we would have heard about many more launches. The Russians have ships in that area all the time right now, and we hear of no attacks or attempted attacks using the same missiles on other ships. Makes no sense.