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Will Ukraine Cut Diplomatic Relations with Russia? Will Kiev Resume Military Operations against Donbass?

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Will Ukraine Cut Diplomatic Relations with Russia? Will Kiev Resume Military Operations against Donbass?

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Written by Prof Michel Chossudovsky; Originally appeared at Global Research

Reported by Pravda.ru, November 8 the Ukrainian Parliament, the Verkhovna Rada would “introduce a relevant paragraph into the law about the reintegration of the Donbass, which the parliament is to consider in the second reading on November 16…”.

This decision which is expected to by ratified by the Parliament, would be followed by a presidential decree signed by President Petro Poroshenko, “after which Russian diplomatic institutions in Ukraine, and Ukrainian ones in Russia will be closed”. Pravda.ru

The logic of the parliamentary decision were it to be adopted, is that “as soon as the Verkhovna Rada approves the law on the reintegration of the Donbass, Russia will be recognized [by Kiev] as an aggressor country”.

“Preserving diplomatic relations after this will be a criminal act on the part of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry. In fact, these relations have already been terminated. There are no ambassadors, and the diplomats, who work in the embassies are not diplomats of the first rank. We need to have this move recorded on the legislative level,” Vinnik said. (Pravda.ru)

There is no confirmation that this decision has been ratified.

The Suspension of Bilateral Trade

The economic and geopolitical ramifications of this decision are far-reaching.

They affect bilateral trade between Ukraine and Russia which is already at an all time low. In 2013, prior to the EuroMaidan crisis (February 2014), 24% of Ukraine’s exports were directed to Russia.

Ukraine’s transborder exports to Russia in 2013 amounted to $15 billion. In 2014 they were of the order of 9.8 billion declining to $3.6 billion in 2016, representing about 8% of Ukraine’s trade. These figures do not account for bilateral commodity trade between Russia and Donbass in the wake of the Euromaidan, Nor do they account for internal trade between Crimea and the Russian Federation.

The Resumption of Military Operations against Donbass

The decision of the Kiev Parliament would also provide a de facto “green light” to resume military operations directed against Donbass. Needless to say, they foreclose the reaching of a peace agreement.

In recent developments which have a direct bearing on the parliamentary decision, the Kiev government has  put Airborne Commander Lieutenant General Mykhailo Zabrodskiy, in charge of military operations against Donbass.

According to Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense: Zabrodskiy was appointed due to his “immense experience” and abilities of  in “planning military operations of various kinds.” (Kyiv Post Report, November 9, 2017).

The real reason for Zabrodskiy’s appointment is his close relationship with the US military and the Pentagon.

Zabrodskiy received advanced training at the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. The College includes a  School of Advanced Leadership and Tactics (SALT) for high ranking military officers.

In other words, Zabrodskiy is a US protégé, who is now head of the so-called “anti-terrorist operation” (ATO) directed against Donbass, in close liaison with the Pentagon.

Lethal Defensive Weapons for Kiev

On November 15, Verkhovna Rada Chairman Andriy Parubiy “called on Washington to provide lethal defensive weapons to Kyiv.”

“Today we had a strategic and constructive meeting with newly appointed U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Wess Mitchell. His visit is a reassurance of the U.S. support to Ukraine. I called on the U.S. State Department to provide lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine,” Parubiy wrote on Twitter on November 15 after a meeting with Mitchell. (Interfax, November 16, 2017)

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MD Ranix

zio lapdogs are a plentiful worldwide – they are blind, deaf and mute following the rythmm of their satanic masters to an inevitable losing end

Icarus Tanović

Well said.

AlexanderAmproz

The answer is in Washington wanting to push for war in-betwen Russia and Europe, the US main competitors ! Ad on that fear, Europe and Russia are Culturally from the same family since “ever”

Bis Repetita Placent !

Anglo-American Money Owners Organized World War II

by Valentin Katasonov

To mark the 70th anniversary of the Victory against Nazism, we publish a study of Valentin Katasonov on financing of the NSDAP and the rearmament of the Third Reich. The author deals with new documents that confirm the organization of the Second World War by US and UK Bankers, covered by President Franklin Roosevelt and Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, in the hope of destroying the USSR. This study raises new questions that will be addressed in a future article.

Hjalmar Schacht (left), Hitler’s finance minister, with his close friend Montagu Norman, Governor of the Bank of England from 1920 to 1944. According to documents reveled by the Bank of England in 2012, he Czechoslovak gold was held in London in a sub-account in the name of the Bank for International Settlements, the Basel-based bank for central banks. When the Nazis marched into Prague in March 1939 they immediately sent armed soldiers to the offices of the National Bank. The Czech directors were ordered, on pain of death, to send two transfer requests. The first instructed the BIS to transfer 23.1 metric tons of gold from the Czechoslovak BIS account, held at the Bank of England, to the Reichsbank BIS account, also held at Threadneedle Street. The second order instructed the Bank of England to transfer almost 27 metric tons of gold held in the National Bank of Czechoslovakia’s own name to the BIS’s gold account at the Bank of England.

The war was not unleashed by frenzied Fuhrer who happened to be ruling Germany at the time. WWII is a project created by world oligarchy or Anglo-American “money owners”. Using such instruments as the US Federal Reserve System and the Bank of England they started to prepare for the next world conflict of global scale right after WWI. The USSR was the target.

The Dawes and Young Plans, the creation of Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the Germany’s suspension of reparations payments it had to pay according to Paris Peace Treaty and the acquiescence of Russia’s former allies in this decision, large-scale foreign investments into the economy of Third Reich, the militarization of German economy and the breaches of Paris Treaty provisions – they all were important milestones on the way of preparing the war.

There were key figures behind the plot: the Rockefellers, the Morgans, Lord Montagu Norman (the Governor of the Bank of England), Hjalmar Schacht (President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the Hitler’s government).The strategic plan of Rockefellers and Morgans was to subjugate Europe economically, saturate Germany with foreign investments and credits and make it deliver a crushing blow against the Soviet Russia so that it would be returned into the world capitalist system as a colony.

Montagu Norman (1871 – 1950) played an important role of go-between to keep up a dialogue between American financial circles and Germany’s business leaders. Hjalmar Schacht organized the revival of Germany’s defense sector of economy. The operation conducted by “money owners” was covered up by such politicians as Franklin Roosevelt, Neville Chamberlain and Winston Churchill. In Germany the plans were carried out by Hitler and Hjalmar Schacht. Some historians say Hjalmar Schacht played a more important role than Hitler. Simply Schacht kept away from spotlight.

The Dawes Plan was an attempt following World War I for the Triple Entente to compromise and collect war reparations debt from Germany. The Dawes Plan (as proposed by the Dawes Committee, chaired by Charles G. Dawes) was an attempt in 1924 to solve the reparations problem, which had bedeviled international politics following World War I and the Treaty of Versailles (France was reluctant to accept it got over 50% of reparations). In 1924-1929 Germany got $2, 5 billion from the United States and $ 1, 5 billion from Great Britain, according to Dawes Plan. In today’s prices the sum is huge, it is equal to $1 trillion of US dollars. Hjalmar Schacht played an active role in the implementation of Dawes Plan. In 1929 he summed up the results, saying that in 5 years Germany got more foreign loans that the United States in the 40 years preceding WWI. As a result, in 1929 Germany became the world’s second largest industrial nation leaving Great Britain behind.

In the 1930s the process of feeding Germany with investments and credits continued. The Young Plan was a program for settling German reparations debts after World War I written in 1929 and formally adopted in 1930. It was presented by the committee headed (1929–30) by American industrialist Owen D. Young, creator and ex-first chairman of Radio Corporation of America (RCA), who, at the time, concurrently served at board of trustees of Rockefeller Foundation, and also had been one of representatives involved in previous war reparations restructuring arrangement – Dawes Plan of 1924. According to the plan, the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) was created in 1930 to make Germany pay reparations to victors. In reality the money flows went in quite a different direction – from the United States and Great Britain to Germany. The majority of strategically important German companies belonged to American capital or were partly under its control. Some of them belonged to British investors. German oil refinery and coal liquefaction sectors of economy belonged to Standard Oil (the Rockefellers). FarbenindustrieAG chemical industry major wasmoved under the control of the Morgan Group. 40% of telephone network and 30% of Focke Wulf shares belonged to American ITT. Radio and AEG, Siemens, Osram electrical industry majors moved under the control of American General Electric. ITT and General Electric were part of the Morgan’s empire. At least 100% of the Volkswagen shares belonged to American Ford. By the time Hitler came to power the US financial capital practically controlled all strategically important sectors of German industry: oil refining, synthetic fuel production, chemistry, car building, aviation, electrical engineering, radio industry, and a large part of machine-building (totally 278 companies). The leading German banks – Deutsche Bank, Dresdner Bank, Donat Bank and some others – were under US control.

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On January 30, 1933 Hitler was named the Chancellor of Germany. Before that his candidacy had been thoroughly studied by American bankers. HjalmarSchacht went to the United States in the autumn of 1930 to discuss the nomination with American colleagues. The Hitler’s appointment was finally approved at a secret meeting of financiers in the United States. He spent the whole 1932 trying to convince the German bankers that Hitler was the right person for the position. He achieved the goal. In mid-November 1932 17 German largest bankers and industrialists sent a letter to President Hindenburg expressing their demand to make Hitler the Chancellor of Germany. The last working meeting of German financiers before the election was held on January 4, 1933 in Kölnat the home of banker Kurt von Schröder. After that the National Socialist Party came to power. As a result, the financial and economic ties of Germany with Anglo-Saxons elevated to a higher level.

Hitler immediately made an announcement that he refused to pay postwar reparations. It put into doubt the ability of England and France to pay off WWI debts to the United States. Washington did not object to the Hitler’s announcement. In May 1933 Hjalmar Schacht paid another visit to the United States. There he met with President Franklin Roosevelt and big bankers to reach a $1 billion credit deal.In June the same year Hjalmar Schacht visited London to hold talks with Montagu Norman. It all went down smoothly. The British agreed to grant a $2 billion loan. The British offered no objections related to the Germany’s decision to suspend debt payments.

Some historians say the American and British bankers were pliant because by 1932 the Soviet Union had fulfilled the 5-year economic development plan to make it achieve new heights as an industrial power. A few thousand enterprises were built, especially in the sector of heavy industry. The dependence of USSR on import of engineering production has greatly dwindled. The chances to strangle the Soviet Union economically were practically reduced to zero. They decided to rely on war and launched the runaway militarization of Germany.

It was easy for Germany to get American credits. By and large, Hitler came to power in his country at the same time as Franklin Roosevelt took office in the United States. The very same bankers who supported Hitler in 1931 supported Roosevelt at the presidential election. The newly elect President could not but endorse large credits to Germany. By the way, many noticed that there was a big similarity between the Roosevelt’s “New Deal Policy” and the economic policy of the German Third Reich. No wonder. The very same people worked out and consulted the both governments at the time. They mainly represented US financial circles.

The Roosevelt’s New Deal soon started to stumble on the way. In 1937 America plunged into the quagmire of economic crisis. In 1939 the US economy operated at 33% of its industrial capacity (it was 19% in the heat of the 1929-1933 crisis).

Rexford G. Tugwell, an economist who became part of Franklin Roosevelt’s first “Brain, a group of Columbia University academics who helped develop policy recommendations leading up to Roosevelt’s New Deal,wrote that in 1939 the government failed to reach any success.There was an open seatill the day Hitler invaded Poland.Only the mighty wind of war could dissipate the fog. Any other measures Roosevelt could take were doomed to failure. [1] Only the world war could save the US capitalism. In 1939 the money owners used all leverage at their disposal to put pressure of Hitler and make him unleash a big war in the east.

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The Bank of International Settlements (BIS) played an important role during the Second World War. It was created as an outpost of American interests in Europe and a link between Anglo-American and German businesses, a kind of offshore zone for cosmopolitan capital providing a shelter from political processes, wars, sanctions and other things. The Bank was created as a public commercial entity, it’s immunity from government interference and such things as taxes collection was guaranteed by international agreement signed in the Hague in 1930.

The bankers of Federal Reserve Bank of New York, who were close to the Morgans, Montagu Norman, the Governor of the Bank of England, German financiers: Hjalmar Schacht (President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the Hitler’s government), Walther Funk (who later replaced Hjalmar Schacht as President of the Reichsbank) and EmilPuhl – all of them played an important role in the efforts to establish the Bank. The central banks of Great Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Belgium and some private banks were among the founders. The Federal Bank of New York did its best to establish the BIS, but it was not listed as a founder. The US was represented by the private First National Bank of New York, J.P. Morgan and Company, the First National Bank of Chicago – all parts of the Morgan’s empire. Japan was also represented by private banks. In 1931-1932 19 European central banks joined the Bank of International Settlements. Gates W. McGarrah, a banker of Rockefeller’s clan, was the first BIS chairman of the board. He was replaced by Leon Fraser, who represented the clan of Morgans. US citizen Thomas H. McKittrick was President of the Bankduring the war years.

A lot has already been written about the BIS activities serving the interests of Third Reich. The Bank was involved in deals with different countries, including those Germany was at war with. Ever since Pearl Harbor the Bank of International Settlements has been a correspondent bank for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It was under Nazi control during the war years, no matter American Thomas Huntington McKittrick was the Bank’s President. Soldiers were dying on the battlefields while the leadership of BIS held meetings in Basel with the bankers of Germany, Japan, Italy, Belgium, Great Britain and the United States. There, in the Swiss offshore zone, it was all peaceful, the representatives of belligerents quietly worked in the atmosphere of mutual understanding.

Switzerland became the place where gold seized by Germany in different corners of Europe was transported to for storage. In the March of 1938, when Hitler captured Vienna, part of Austrian gold was transferred to BIS vaults. The same thing happened with the gold of Czech National Bank (48 million USD). As the war started, the flows of gold poured into the Bank of International Settlements. Germany got it from concentration camps and as a result of plundering the wealth of occupied countries (including whatever belonged to civilians: jewels, gold crowns, cigarette cases, utensils…). It was called the Nazi Gold. The metal was processed into ingots to be stored in the Bank of International Settlements, Switzerland, or outside Europe. Charles Higham in his Trading With The Enemy: An Expose of The Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949 wrote that during the war Nazi transferred $378 million into the accounts of Bank of International Settlements.

A few words about the Czech gold. The details surfaced when after the Bank of England’s archives were declassified in 2012. [2] In the March of 1939 Germany captured Prague. Nazi demanded $48 million of national gold reserves. They were told that the sum had already been transferred to the Bank of International Settlements. Later it became known that the gold was transferred from Basel to the vaults of Bank of England. Upon the command from Berlin the gold was transferred to the ReichsbankBIS account. Then the Bank of England was involved in transactions done upon the orders of Reichsbank given to the Bank of International settlements. The commands were retransmitted to London. There was collusion between German Reichsbank, the Bank of International Settlements and the Bank of England. In 1939 a scandal broke out in Great Britain because the Bank of England executed the transactions with Czech gold upon the commands coming from Berlin and Basel, not the Czech government. For instance, in the June of 1939, three months before the war between Great Britain and Germany started, the Bank of England helped Germans to get into their accounts the amount of gold equal to 440 thousand pounds sterling and transfer some gold to New York (Germany was sure that in case of German intervention into Poland the United States would not declare war).

The illegal transactions with Czech gold were implemented with tacit approval of the government of Great Britain which was aware of what was going on. Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, Chancellor of the Exchequer Sir John Simon and other top officials did their best to hide the truth, including outright lies (the gold was returned to the lawful owner or had never been transferred to Reichsbank). The recently declassified materials of Bank of England reveal the truth and show that the government officials lied to cover up themselves and the activities of the Bank of England and the Bank of International Settlements. It was easy to coordinate the joint criminal activities because Montagu Norman, the head of Bank of England, served as the chairman of the board of Bank of International Settlements. He never made secret of his sympathy for fascists.

The Bretton Woods Conference, formally known as the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference, was the gathering of 730 delegates from all 44 allied nations at the Mount Washington Hotel situated in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, the United States, to regulate the international monetary and financial order after the conclusion of World War II. The conference was held from 1 to 22 July 1944. All of a sudden the issue of the Bank of International Settlements hit the agenda. It was reported that the bank collaborated with fascist Germany. Leaving many details aside, I’d only mention that with great difficulty (some US delegates opposed the motion) the delegates reached an agreement to close the BIS. The decision of international conference has never been enacted. All the discreditable information related to the BIS wartime activities was classified. Today it helps to falsify the history of the Second World War.

Finally, a few words about Hjalmar Schacht (1877-1970) who served as President of the Reichsbank and Minister of Economics in the fascist Germany’s government. He was a key figure controlling the economic machine of Third Reich, an extraordinary and plenipotentiaryambassador representing Anglo-American capital in Germany. In 1945 Schacht was tried at Nuremberg to be acquitted on October 1, 1946. He got away with murder. The same way it happened to Hitler. For some unexplained reasons he was not in the 1945 leading wartime criminals list. More to it, Schacht returned to his profession like if nothing happened and founded Schacht GmbH in Düsseldorf. This detail may go unnoticed, though it serves as another testimony to the fact that Anglo-American “money owners” and their plenipotentiary representatives in Germany prepared and, to some extent, influenced the outcome of the Second World War. The “money owners” want to rewrite the history of the war and change its results.

Valentin Katasonov

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Strategic Culture Foundation (Russia)

Real Anti-Racist Action

The US has suffered the same fate as Europe and Russia from within. The Zionist want to exterminate Goyim’s, and this is the way they did it in the First World War, the Second and soon the Third. Only a Zionist-Free-Zone does not wish for such wars. Today Russia has very few Zionist, this makes modern Russia like Germany of 1930’s. Today Russia gets the same media treatment that Germany received back in the 1930’s. http://realjewnews.com/

Deo Cass

With Russia showing weakness in Syria after repeated US and Israeli violations of Syrian airspace and attacks on Syrian army positions and even the assasination of Russia’s highest military official, which were not responded to by Russia and meant precisely to test Russia’s resolve, the US feels confident and enboldened it can unleash hell on Donbass and invade Crimea and Russia would not be able to stop it. Besides NATO is on the ready to attack the Russian mainland in case Russia tries to defend the indigenous Russ Ukrainians of Donbas or Crimea with their first objective being the invasion of Russia’s Kaliningrad if this happens. NATO in fact bas already rehearsed this scenario various times.

Michalis Kane

And NATO will face certain defeat.

FlorianGeyer

Russia is not showing weakness, Russia is demonstrating that strategy does not have to produce risky instant gratification when ‘time’ is ones ally.

Brad Isherwood

The debate that Russia can’t go all in for Donbass or Syria Cuz Empire will declare WW 3 on Russia is BS excuse…

Empire picks on States that are centric to Russia and beats the living shit out of them, Kinda like capture the Bears cub and torture it infront of Momma.

Russia has been weak to the point of Reeking Compromise concerning Syria and the Donbass. Serbs understand this view .

FlorianGeyer

Whilst the US Empire is getting weaker , Russia is recovering from the trauma of the Soviet Empire that ironically was ‘infected’ by the same ideology and religious cult that is eviscerating the USA today.

The time will come when the American People who host these parasites will clamour to be cleansed of these blood suckers as the Russian people have and are still continuing to do.

John Whitehot

quit the pipe. you clearly can’t handle it.

bob

always a BEAR is defence in nature and not in attack in nature..US are provocking RUSSIA so as to study their moves in real combat of war. What RUSSIANS are doing is to wait for US and UKRAINE to fall into their trap where RUSSIAN response will be backed by INTERNATIONAL LAW as per UN charter giving no room for NATO to fully operate in the war… thus it will be between UKRAINE Vs RUSSIA where UKRAINE has no chance of winning and give RUSSIA advantage of doing what they did in CRIMEA.

Solomon Krupacek

always a BEAR is defence in nature and not in attack in nature..

hahaha, go beck to school :DDD

bob

Deo Cass….. and by the way RUSSIA is not showing weakness in SYRIA. all the violations done by both US and ISRAELI are all punishable by INTERNATIONAL LAW … so RUSSIANS are building up cases of confrontations which will follow after the defeat of ISIS. what IRAQ army are doing with KURDS like incident of KIRKUK,it will be the same in the OMAR oilfields in SYRIA giving no chance for US to counteract actively on ground as they are illegally in SYRIAN territory. that is why in UN security council, US are desperately seeking to be legitimized to put troops on ground actively and they face huge set backs by their quest to be highly VETOED by RUSSIA and its allies. RUSSIANS are master chess player and they play very SMARTLY.

Solomon Krupacek

. all the violations done by both US and ISRAELI are all punishable by INTERNATIONAL LAW …

do it. and yui will see, how weak is russia

Brad Isherwood

>>With Russia showing weakness in Syria after repeated US and Israeli violations of Syrian airspace and attacks on Syrian army positions .

Yes…..this would be Argument point in court. “Why did your S 400 batteries not respond when Israeli Airforce attacked Syria “? “After the 10 th IAF attack on Syria….why did your S 400 battery not react”?

These questions upset the gallery who maintain that Putin/Lavrov are going all in for Syria vs Empire. The fact that Russian S 400 batteries have done nothing but collect Bird shit indicates a state of agreement/collusion exists between Putin and Israel defence minister whereby Russia will not intercept IAF combat aircraft or stand off munitions.

After studying up on how Putin came to power, ..and the evidence of the Rich Jewish Oligarchs which circle his periphery, I conclude Putin is Compromised by them…and by the Rothschilds Central Bank.

Why Putin allows that fat chocolate Nazi pig in the Ukraine to torment the Donbass is anyone’s guess. I just don’t buy the defence that Putin defend Syria and Donbass = WW 3

PZIVJ

Deo Cass: “invade Crimea and Russia would not be able to stop it.” What the hell are you smoking, something from Afghanistan ?

xam

A real civil war In israHELL against zionists , not a staged proxy foreigners-terrorists’s from overseas abroad civil war , a real civil war against zionists in israHELL to liberate arab Palestine from occupation is immenent underway ! destroying the new world order http://www.12160.info

AMHants

So what happens should Ukraine decide to go for it, which no doubt they will? With regards Minsk II? Kiev will have openly walked away and if they want war with Donbass, then they have unleashed Russia, as Ukraine will be the aggressor. In the Budapest Agreement 1994, Article 5 and does it not say that Russia can defend her people from an attack from non-nuclear or nuclear nations?

Jay Black

will be the same as happened before, russia will then recognise DNR and LNR as legitimate republics and send peace keepers. Same happened in Moldova when nationalists decided to get rid of russian language there and of anything russian really, 2 regions revolted, one remained as part of moldova but more of authonomy, and another was recognised as independent republic by russia – called Transistria. Russia defended the region and conflict is frozen. Even tho Transistria asked to join russian federation, russia refused but kept protecting the region from war. Then war will stop completely, because Ukraine wouldn’t dare to attack russian troops, like they don’t dare to fight them in Crimea or anywhere else along the border. Because otherwise Donbas may as well grow in size very very fast. I think by this law Ukraine want to get rid of this regions and give it into russian hands and call russia aggressor for the rest of times and also steal all money that Ukrainian government owes to pensioners and other ppl who live in Donbas.

AMHants

Thank you for your informative and interesting reply.

What also interests me, is the fact that Russia and Ukraine have never ratified their borders, in accordance with international law, since the fall of the Soviet Union. It is only whilst Ukraine is a member of the CIS, that they accept the situation of the borders. So what does it mean? Do they go back to the borders of the days prior to the Bolsheviks overthrowing the Russian Empire? Ukraine and Europe have ratified their borders, but, not Ukraine and Russia.

Conclusion Page 63 of the Russia Ukraine Friendship Treaty 1997 https://archive.org/stream/russianukrainian00stew#page/62/mode/2up

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Christian Gains

I was dumbfounded when this ENTIRE debacle developed, since Ukraine has been the breeding grounds for their various Revolutions, AND is R.U’s “bread basket” & Crimea the MAIN warm water docking area for Russia since Peter the Great!?

HELL-R-ee & B.O.,[duh stink’a] were the instigators of that total mess, (as was usual with “duh stink’a”, he couldn’t touch ANYTHING without screwing it up)! No doubt Senator John “McPain”, (no ken to “McDonalds”), has LIKELY got his warmongering fingers in that pot some how!

It’s a TOTAL MESS that REALLY never had to happen, except “B.O.,[duh stink’a] got involved, (imagining MARVELOUS results he never had), and the WHOLE thing went south, and NOW there’s THIS entanglement (that our FIRST President — Washington — warned the new Nation not to get involved in), and B.O. jumped in with both feet! Geesh! What a friggin mess!!! I just hope it can be solved without more needless blood shed! (unlikely)…

NOW you know WHY HELL-R-ee didn’t get elected…she & B.O. were to incompetent to handle Foreign affairs! Frankly, they were too incompetent to handle ANYTHING…BUT! FULLY BELIEVED that THEY are the answer to ALL men’s prayers! Whew! What a pair of BOZOS!

Joe

Another possible flash point.

Russia practically surrounded Saudi/Israeli threat on Lebanon Rebels/terrorists counter attacking with expensive weapons and start fighting in deescalation zones Ukraine threats as this article indicates

North Korea possible war….

Possible all will happen at one go?

Icarus Tanović

Ukrainians are dumb, so anything is possible. This isn’t the first time they are used as wepon against Russia. We’ve been seeing that before.

Stephen Lambert

Ukrainian SS divisions in WWII… Now Ukrainian NATO SS divisions… same shit different uniforms….

Solomon Krupacek

putin fucked also ukraine

Melotte 22

WILL UKRAINE CUT DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH RUSSIA? WILL KIEV RESUME MILITARY OPERATIONS AGAINST DONBASS?

Either option would be the end of Ukraine.

dutchnational

Russia is always talking about legitimacy and to some extent this is correct.

Therefore the Russian hypocrisy is the more apparent in the case of Crimea and the Donbass and Lugansk areas. Legally those areas are Ukrainian and Russian military intervention, or rather creating the troubles there, shows clearly Russia is only interested in legitimacy when it suits them.

If it does not, then they set aside all laws and are plain interventionists, creating fake referenda and then recognising those fake referenda as “legal”.

So imo the Ukraine should offer Donbass and Lugansk amnesty, continuation of having russian as another official language there and giving them say two weeks to lay down their arms.

If they do not, just like in Syria, Ukraine can invite the US to come to the Ukraine and bomb the shit out of the rebels. Most commenters here are very much in favour of exactly this being done by Russia in Syria, so they should not have any problems by US intervening on the legal invitation by the Kiev government.

Real Anti-Racist Action

Mi6 and Mossad pull the strings in Kiev these days.

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