Iran provided Hezbollah with the infrastructure and technical know how to build massive quantities of missiles of all makes and types. There is a good reason why Israel hasn’t directly attacked Hezbollah on Lebanese soil in so long.
From is successful 7 year intervention in Syria, Hezbollah has totally revamped its special forces units that are now geared to fight inside Occupied Palestine with a few hours of conflict.
The different ceremonies for returning fighters of Lebanon’s Hezbollah in recent years have witnessed appearance of veiled forces in full black. These forces who are majorly stationed in the southern suburb of Beirut are elite forces of Hezbollah and are dubbed Rezvan Unit. They are highly skilled at shooting,offensive combined arms operations and commando raids. Some suggest that Hezbollah only in specific conditions deploys its elites for fighting. These special forces are recruited from the Shia diaspora, trained in Iran and received their baptism of fire in Syria and will spearhead any future conflict.
The British weekly The Economist has presented a report about the personal capabilities of members of Hezbollah’s Rezvan Unit as an elite force, writing that those forces are able to engage with adversaries in mountains and heights in wide-ranging areas. They can advance in an unmatched pace, and are of high professionalism unheard of in the region. They are resistant to tough conditions during the fighting circumstances and not afraid to die and consider it a “privilege” to sacrifice their life for their cause.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3e3c04c834ed32b217311d5778acf00df90fa351619de47bb2c81041ad270be.jpg
potcracker777
5 years ago
take this as an example of a man with character,courage and dignity……..u american , French,german,,saudi,etc… british/khasar stooges/servants GOJIM!!!!
and Baschar….take hezbollah as example to how to deal with invaders, occupiers………attack them…kill them…………remember the great day of happiness in Beirut October 23. 1983
241 USA marine invaders/occupiers and 58 French Military invaders/occupiers were killed…….. the Cowards left.. with their heads down and their sons in coffins!!!!
Hezbollah is now in a class of its own. Sayyed Nasrallah is now in a position to dictate to the Zionist losers as they know that Hezbollah can devastate them at will.
Hezbollah’s Power Is Growing—Thanks to Iran
How does a resistance group that arose from the Zionist occupation of Lebanon in 1982 get an arsenal of 150,000 precision missiles and rockets and become a power to be reckoned with?
Over the last 10 years, Hezbollah’s arsenal of rockets and missiles has grown dramatically. Today, the legendary Lebanese resistance movement has almost 10 times the number of missiles it had in 2006 and over four times full-time battle tested fighters. In a December 22 article, Foreign Policy showed that this unique group has experienced such massive growth only because it is backed by Iran and the global Shia diaspora over over 400 million
In the humiliating 33 day 2006 war, the Zionists faced 100 missiles from Hezbollah every day. In the next Israel-Hezbollah war, Israel could face a daily barrage of 1,200 to 1,500 missiles and rockets. The amount of damage that many explosives could create is almost incomprehensible. Thousands of missiles at once would overwhelm Israel’s defense systems, meaning
that many of those missiles would hit their intended targets. Foreign Policy wrote: “With potentially thousands of powerful warheads raining down on crowded population centers, some Israeli planners are preparing for ‘as many as hundreds’ of deaths every day during the conflict’s first week” while Israeli politicians doing their best not to provoke a resurgent and supremely confident Hezbollah and have avoided Lebanon like a plague.
nah in bodybags and those were left over from the, at the time, latest escapade in vietnam.
Sinbad2
5 years ago
Netanyahu is lying?
Lets be honest the whole religion is based on lies, and not even convincing lies.
Lets start at the beginning, poor Jewish slaves were released because God stuck it to the Egyptians.
Surely it is more likely the Egyptians expelled them for exactly the same reasons every other country they have inhabited has expelled them?
Now you can’t condemn every jew because his/her mind has been poisoned by the religion that brainwashed them, but the religion should be banned, it’s a sickness that perverts the mind of man.
Zionists are boxed in an running scared as their pathetic policies in Syria failed and Iran has a far bigger footprint in the region now than since the era of the Persian Empire.
What they are really scared of is the upcoming collapse of the USA.
Without Americun money they won’t last long, only $350 billion GDP, and that is padded out like the US GDP numbers.
any person financially supporting the squatters on the stolen palestinian land is complicit in the crime the squatters are guilty of. thus, any person sending money or whatever supporting the depalestination program should expect to be retributed in kind the way the squatters are treating and murdering the palestinians, thus anti-semitism is a corollary or like a letter in the mail for those who support the squatters. nothing much to it except expect more anti-semitism around the world.
Or, were they moneylenders and got expelled for usury.
They had enough gold to cast a golden calf, where did the gold come from?
Was it profits from banking, or did they steal it from the Egyptians?
As I stated previously, Hebrews were colonists from the Persian province of Eber-Nari. Sent to establish the temple state in Yehud (Judea), impose the new monotheist cult/religion and collect the tax from the temple.
No banking, loans, usury, tax and what not existed in Canaan prior to Persian ruling the land. It was something brought in from Mesopotamia where identical praxrises were conducted from the temple (considered sacred and thus safe).
The province that became known as Yehud (Judea) and its subsequent habitants, the Yehuds (Jews) came to be after Persia ruled the land. Thus, how could have Persia freed the Jews that Babylon is said to have taken captive?
On one end, you rightfully claim the story of bondage in Egypt was a lie but on the other, you claim they stole provisions from the Egyptians for their Expdus? Which one is it?
There was no Exodus. The Canaanites who migrated to Egypt due to famine and who had settled in the Delta Nile in 500 BCE were kicked out back to Canaan by the Egyptians who feared an uprising (which seemed indicative that the Canaanites in question were problematic).
You continue regurgitating the Biblical narrative.
I am aware that there were no Pharaohs then. My reference was 1500 BCE and not the mistakenly written 500 BCE.
The word “Jew” derives from Yehud – named after the province of Yehud that came with Persia ruling the land.
How could there have been any kingdom when it is known tosay that no land was ever invaded?
Also archaeological evidence contradicts the picture in Joshua. In the Ancient Near East, destroyed cities tended to be leveled, and then a new city would just be built on top of the ruins, and you would have these slowly rising mounds–each one of those is called a tell (so you may have heard of Tell Dor?). These are mounds which represent the successive layers of destroyed and rebuilt cities. And excavations will reveal the destruction layers under the floor of new cities.
So following the biblical account, we would expect evidence of a thirteenth century destruction of Canaanite cities. And archaeologists for a long time were convinced that they would find these destruction layers. But they were disappointed.
They have found really no evidence of extensive conquest and destruction in thirteenth and twelfth century archaeological layers. Some of the sites that are said to be destroyed by Joshua and the Israelites weren’t even occupied in this period, the late Bronze Age, beginning of the Iron Age; the Iron Age begins around 1200.
Excavations at Jericho and Ai indicate that both of these towns were laid waste at least 200 years before the probable time of Joshua; so there weren’t even any walls in Jericho at the time of Joshua. Of 20 identifiable sites that were said to be conquered or captured by Joshua and the next generations, only two show destruction layers for this time, Hazor and Beth-el. And yet interestingly enough, Hazor’s capture described in Joshua is contradicted elsewhere in the Bible, because in Judges 4 and 5, it is still a Canaanite city. It is said there that it is still a Canaanite city and Joshua failed to take it.”
Dr. Christine Hayes, “Introduction to the Old Testament”, Yale University
I would like to be proven wrong to further my knowledge. Suggesting that my “friend” (in reality, an expert in the field who postulated conclusions based on forensic archeology) is “wrong” is not an intelligent and contradictory argument. Neither is throwing a link to a document on YouTube. Please present valid arguments.
I don’t know why you feel it’s a pissing contest nor do I understand why you are harping on about the Bronge Age when it was not the topic in hand.
The topic was “Jews” said to be in Egypt and the said Exodus. To date, there is not a single shred of evidence (records or archeology) for it. If you believe otherwise, you should have no problem showing me otherwise.
I understand. We can of course agree to disagree but you have not been able to present me with evidence for the claims you made.
Please understand the content I presented is not my opinion but is based on the conclusions of decades-long archeological excavation and the study of records. Facts speak for themselves — to date, there is not a single shred of evidence (records and/or archeology) for the Biblical characters and the stories found in the Bible. Instead, the authors of the Bible (who high likely had access to records) wrote mythical stories with mythical characters to create a new religion in Canaan. The historical context existed but that history did not.
I would recommend you a list of books to see for yourself but I am sure you have better things to do than to read entire references contradicting your preconceived beliefs. If you are nonetheless and still interested, I invite you to read the following short articles:
• Is the Bible a True Story?
https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/MAGAZINE-is-the-bible-a-true-story-latest-archaeological-finds-yield-surprises-1.5626647
• Ground for disbelief
https://www.haaretz.com/whdcMobileSite/1.4777188
• Did David and Solomon’s United Monarchy Exist?
https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/MAGAZINE-timna-mines-support-biblical-tale-of-king-david-s-united-kingdom-1.5466612
• Who wrote the Torah?
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-who-wrote-the-torah-1.5318582
• Ugarit and the Bible
http://prophetess.lstc.edu/~rklein/Doc6/ugarit.htm
I am perplexed. You refuse to read what you call a pro-Israel source but nonetheless promulgate ancient mythical stories that Zionists use to support the creation of their occupying state?
Either way. It’s your call but you have nothing to fear. The articles in question approach the subject impartially and don’t take sides. I wouldn’t recommend them otherwise. Please note that the last link is not from Haaretz.
I am aware of the existence of bias in historical narratives but in this case, your augment doesn’t make any sense. Why would Zionists want to suppress stories (real or fake) that form the basis of their claim to occupy Palestine?
The Haaretz articles I presented to you actually challenge and discredit the existence of the bondage of Jews in Egypt, the Exodus, the conquest/invasion of Canaan, David/Solomon’s kingdoms, etc. If the articles are anything, they are against Israel’s founding myths.
I am afraid that is solely your own, personal and opiniated interpretation. The core of the issue is that you believe in the Bible, its characters and stories and consequently find it hard to grasp that they could not be true.
When the Haaretz articles sheds light on the Biblical myths, it doesn’t pin point on the violent nature of the Israelites alone but the entirety of the Biblical characters and stories. You just need to read them to see for yourself.
I am listening and I understand what you are saying but it’s doesn’t apply in this case. I presented to you some reading material that you refused to read because you claim it is “pro-Israel” when the content was an impartial report of the Biblical stories/characters based on archeological findings.
I was trying to reply to a previous comment of yours but I think you deleted it. If I may still post my response before answering your current comment.
Response to previous comment:
When you advance the arguments that we don’t know who is the accurate Ramesses mentioned in the Bible and that Egypt kept the barbarian“Jews” busy to prevent an uprising, what do you base yourself upon? Actual facts or are you brainstorming potential answers?
If I recall correctly, a total 10 Pharaohs carried the name Ramesses. That said, and while I understand your question, I find it odd that you insist on believing the Exodus of the Bible happened when all points to the contrary.
Regardless of which Ramesses is the right one in the Bible, there is no Egyptian records attesting of “Jews” in Egypt and/or “Jews” enslaved in Egypt and/or “Jews” as laborers in Egypt and/or evidence of the migration of 600,000 families (2 million people) from Egypt, wandering in the desert for 40 years to then conquer/invade Canaan to settle kingdoms. It’s all mythical.
To the best of my knowledge, there were two successives entry of people from Canaan to Egypt. The first one was the one of Canaanites in 1800-1700 BCE (they formed one of the dynasty of Egypt) and the second one was the one of Hyksos (who were not Canaanites but believed to be Semitic and entered Egypt from Canaan) in circa 1600 BCE. After ruling the land for some time, the Hyksos were kicked out by the Egyptians. The story of the Exodus is high likely inspired from that historical event. On a side but related note, the story of Moses himself shares similarities with the more ancient King Sargon of Akkad – also put in a basket sent on the river.
Response to current comment:
I am confused to say the least. On one hand, you are insistent that the bondage of Jews in Egypt, the Exodus, conquest of Canaan, the establishment of the kingdom, etc happened but on the other, you say that I did most of the job for you in presenting information that discredit the Bible. I just hope you’re not trolling.
Otherwise, we are on the same page in regards to Palestine being occupied.
The mythical story of enslaved “Israelites” (aka “Hebrews”) in Egypt, mythical Exodus, mythical Moses, etc is based on the historical migration of Canaanites from Canaan (due to famine) to Egypt where they settled around the Delta Nile around 500 BCE. They were later kicked out by the Egyptian authorities who feared an uprising.
The cult/religion of Pharisaism (known today as Judaism*) came to be with the construction of the (said) Second Temple – decreed and financed by Cyrus the Great as the Persian empire expanded. Hebrews were in reality colonists from the Persian province of Eber-Nari. The word “Hebrew” itself derives from Eber. The establishment of the temple state in Yehud (Judea) was meant to get rid of polytheism, impose monotheism and collect the new tax from the temple.
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”Among the innumerable misfortunes which have befallen… the most fatal in its consequences is the name Judaism… neither in biblical nor post-biblical, neither in Talmudic nor in much later times, is the term Judaism ever heard…”
Rabbi Adolph Moses in collaboration with Rabbi H.G. Enlow, “Yahvism and Other Discourses”
”Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes in name . . . the spirit of the ancient Pharisees survives, unaltered . . . From Palestine to Babylonia; from Babylonia to North Africa, Italy, Spain, France and Germany; from these to Poland, Russia, and eastern Europe generally, ancient Pharisaism has wandered . . . demonstrates the enduring importance which attaches to Pharisaism as a religious movement.”
Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, “The Pharisees, The Sociological Background of Their Faith
No “Jews” ever stepped foot in Egypt, even less so to be enslaved. The mythical story is based upon a historical one: Canaanites from Canaan migrating (due to famine) to Egypt where they settled around the Delta Nile in 500 BCE. They were later sent back to Canaan by the Egyptian authorities fearing an uprising.
Pharisaism (known today as Judaism) came to be with the (said) Second Temple – decreed and financed by Cyrus the Great as the Persian empire expanded. Hebrews were colonists from the Persian province of Eber Nari sent to Yehud (Judea) to establish a temple state and collect the tax. The concoction of the Hebrew Bible based on the plagiarizarion of Mesopotamian stories/concepts and the Canaanite religion was meant to get rid of the polytheistic beliefs and replace them with monotheism. The “Law of Moses” found in the Bible is in reality the Code of Hammurabi.
I am not sure the Bible states that the “Children of Israel” were expelled from “Israel” due to famine. Who would have expelled them? Did you mean: migrated?
I ask because the mythical story of Hebrews being in Egypt is based upon the historical (and backed by archeology) migration of Canaanites from Canaan to Egypt as a result of famine. They had settled around the Delta Nile in 500 BCE and were later expelled back to Canaan by the Egyptian authorities who feared an uprising.
Netanyahu is a self medicated alcoholic. We all know what the Bible, Koran and Torah says about a drunken leader. Or any drunk for that matter.
Netanyahu belongs inside of an Israeli prison cell for stealing money from Israelis. Lying, contempt of court, crimes against humanity and many other such charges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8owHqVfCsU&t=499s
Emanual Macron
5 years ago
oh yes, I put all my faith that this piece of shit is telling the truth. right. get the fuck out of here loser.
not an exclusive right but they lie and steal and murders more often than any other group of people and they are operating a concentration camp a la hitler’s bergen belsen, or dachau or auschwitz where the most prominent feature is not judenfrei but palestinianfrei and the concept can be called DEPALESTINATION!
would you believe it – only one thing to do evict the squatters from the stolen palestinian land and send them to kingdom come.
Iran provided Hezbollah with the infrastructure and technical know how to build massive quantities of missiles of all makes and types. There is a good reason why Israel hasn’t directly attacked Hezbollah on Lebanese soil in so long.
They have not even bombed a forest in Pakistan? why?
From is successful 7 year intervention in Syria, Hezbollah has totally revamped its special forces units that are now geared to fight inside Occupied Palestine with a few hours of conflict.
The different ceremonies for returning fighters of Lebanon’s Hezbollah in recent years have witnessed appearance of veiled forces in full black. These forces who are majorly stationed in the southern suburb of Beirut are elite forces of Hezbollah and are dubbed Rezvan Unit. They are highly skilled at shooting,offensive combined arms operations and commando raids. Some suggest that Hezbollah only in specific conditions deploys its elites for fighting. These special forces are recruited from the Shia diaspora, trained in Iran and received their baptism of fire in Syria and will spearhead any future conflict. The British weekly The Economist has presented a report about the personal capabilities of members of Hezbollah’s Rezvan Unit as an elite force, writing that those forces are able to engage with adversaries in mountains and heights in wide-ranging areas. They can advance in an unmatched pace, and are of high professionalism unheard of in the region. They are resistant to tough conditions during the fighting circumstances and not afraid to die and consider it a “privilege” to sacrifice their life for their cause. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3e3c04c834ed32b217311d5778acf00df90fa351619de47bb2c81041ad270be.jpg
take this as an example of a man with character,courage and dignity……..u american , French,german,,saudi,etc… british/khasar stooges/servants GOJIM!!!!
and Baschar….take hezbollah as example to how to deal with invaders, occupiers………attack them…kill them…………remember the great day of happiness in Beirut October 23. 1983
241 USA marine invaders/occupiers and 58 French Military invaders/occupiers were killed…….. the Cowards left.. with their heads down and their sons in coffins!!!!
Hezbollah is now in a class of its own. Sayyed Nasrallah is now in a position to dictate to the Zionist losers as they know that Hezbollah can devastate them at will.
Hezbollah’s Power Is Growing—Thanks to Iran
How does a resistance group that arose from the Zionist occupation of Lebanon in 1982 get an arsenal of 150,000 precision missiles and rockets and become a power to be reckoned with?
Over the last 10 years, Hezbollah’s arsenal of rockets and missiles has grown dramatically. Today, the legendary Lebanese resistance movement has almost 10 times the number of missiles it had in 2006 and over four times full-time battle tested fighters. In a December 22 article, Foreign Policy showed that this unique group has experienced such massive growth only because it is backed by Iran and the global Shia diaspora over over 400 million
In the humiliating 33 day 2006 war, the Zionists faced 100 missiles from Hezbollah every day. In the next Israel-Hezbollah war, Israel could face a daily barrage of 1,200 to 1,500 missiles and rockets. The amount of damage that many explosives could create is almost incomprehensible. Thousands of missiles at once would overwhelm Israel’s defense systems, meaning that many of those missiles would hit their intended targets. Foreign Policy wrote: “With potentially thousands of powerful warheads raining down on crowded population centers, some Israeli planners are preparing for ‘as many as hundreds’ of deaths every day during the conflict’s first week” while Israeli politicians doing their best not to provoke a resurgent and supremely confident Hezbollah and have avoided Lebanon like a plague.
nah in bodybags and those were left over from the, at the time, latest escapade in vietnam.
Netanyahu is lying? Lets be honest the whole religion is based on lies, and not even convincing lies. Lets start at the beginning, poor Jewish slaves were released because God stuck it to the Egyptians. Surely it is more likely the Egyptians expelled them for exactly the same reasons every other country they have inhabited has expelled them?
Now you can’t condemn every jew because his/her mind has been poisoned by the religion that brainwashed them, but the religion should be banned, it’s a sickness that perverts the mind of man.
Be careful, the chosen ones may also attack a forest in Pakistan.
Zionists are boxed in an running scared as their pathetic policies in Syria failed and Iran has a far bigger footprint in the region now than since the era of the Persian Empire.
What they are really scared of is the upcoming collapse of the USA. Without Americun money they won’t last long, only $350 billion GDP, and that is padded out like the US GDP numbers.
any person financially supporting the squatters on the stolen palestinian land is complicit in the crime the squatters are guilty of. thus, any person sending money or whatever supporting the depalestination program should expect to be retributed in kind the way the squatters are treating and murdering the palestinians, thus anti-semitism is a corollary or like a letter in the mail for those who support the squatters. nothing much to it except expect more anti-semitism around the world.
Or, were they moneylenders and got expelled for usury. They had enough gold to cast a golden calf, where did the gold come from? Was it profits from banking, or did they steal it from the Egyptians?
As I stated previously, Hebrews were colonists from the Persian province of Eber-Nari. Sent to establish the temple state in Yehud (Judea), impose the new monotheist cult/religion and collect the tax from the temple.
No banking, loans, usury, tax and what not existed in Canaan prior to Persian ruling the land. It was something brought in from Mesopotamia where identical praxrises were conducted from the temple (considered sacred and thus safe).
You merely repeat the Biblical narrative.
The province that became known as Yehud (Judea) and its subsequent habitants, the Yehuds (Jews) came to be after Persia ruled the land. Thus, how could have Persia freed the Jews that Babylon is said to have taken captive?
I am aware that Persia conquered Babylon and subsequently made it its capitol. That doesn’t answer my question.
On one end, you rightfully claim the story of bondage in Egypt was a lie but on the other, you claim they stole provisions from the Egyptians for their Expdus? Which one is it?
There was no Exodus. The Canaanites who migrated to Egypt due to famine and who had settled in the Delta Nile in 500 BCE were kicked out back to Canaan by the Egyptians who feared an uprising (which seemed indicative that the Canaanites in question were problematic).
You continue regurgitating the Biblical narrative.
I am aware that there were no Pharaohs then. My reference was 1500 BCE and not the mistakenly written 500 BCE.
The word “Jew” derives from Yehud – named after the province of Yehud that came with Persia ruling the land.
How could there have been any kingdom when it is known tosay that no land was ever invaded?
Also archaeological evidence contradicts the picture in Joshua. In the Ancient Near East, destroyed cities tended to be leveled, and then a new city would just be built on top of the ruins, and you would have these slowly rising mounds–each one of those is called a tell (so you may have heard of Tell Dor?). These are mounds which represent the successive layers of destroyed and rebuilt cities. And excavations will reveal the destruction layers under the floor of new cities.
So following the biblical account, we would expect evidence of a thirteenth century destruction of Canaanite cities. And archaeologists for a long time were convinced that they would find these destruction layers. But they were disappointed.
They have found really no evidence of extensive conquest and destruction in thirteenth and twelfth century archaeological layers. Some of the sites that are said to be destroyed by Joshua and the Israelites weren’t even occupied in this period, the late Bronze Age, beginning of the Iron Age; the Iron Age begins around 1200.
Excavations at Jericho and Ai indicate that both of these towns were laid waste at least 200 years before the probable time of Joshua; so there weren’t even any walls in Jericho at the time of Joshua. Of 20 identifiable sites that were said to be conquered or captured by Joshua and the next generations, only two show destruction layers for this time, Hazor and Beth-el. And yet interestingly enough, Hazor’s capture described in Joshua is contradicted elsewhere in the Bible, because in Judges 4 and 5, it is still a Canaanite city. It is said there that it is still a Canaanite city and Joshua failed to take it.”
Dr. Christine Hayes, “Introduction to the Old Testament”, Yale University
I would like to be proven wrong to further my knowledge. Suggesting that my “friend” (in reality, an expert in the field who postulated conclusions based on forensic archeology) is “wrong” is not an intelligent and contradictory argument. Neither is throwing a link to a document on YouTube. Please present valid arguments.
I don’t know why you feel it’s a pissing contest nor do I understand why you are harping on about the Bronge Age when it was not the topic in hand.
The topic was “Jews” said to be in Egypt and the said Exodus. To date, there is not a single shred of evidence (records or archeology) for it. If you believe otherwise, you should have no problem showing me otherwise.
Are you serious or trolling?
I don’t mean to be blunt but are you serious or trolling? That is the parroting of the Biblical narrative in a video/animation format.
I understand. We can of course agree to disagree but you have not been able to present me with evidence for the claims you made.
Please understand the content I presented is not my opinion but is based on the conclusions of decades-long archeological excavation and the study of records. Facts speak for themselves — to date, there is not a single shred of evidence (records and/or archeology) for the Biblical characters and the stories found in the Bible. Instead, the authors of the Bible (who high likely had access to records) wrote mythical stories with mythical characters to create a new religion in Canaan. The historical context existed but that history did not.
I would recommend you a list of books to see for yourself but I am sure you have better things to do than to read entire references contradicting your preconceived beliefs. If you are nonetheless and still interested, I invite you to read the following short articles:
• Is the Bible a True Story? https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/MAGAZINE-is-the-bible-a-true-story-latest-archaeological-finds-yield-surprises-1.5626647
• Ground for disbelief https://www.haaretz.com/whdcMobileSite/1.4777188
• Did David and Solomon’s United Monarchy Exist? https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/MAGAZINE-timna-mines-support-biblical-tale-of-king-david-s-united-kingdom-1.5466612
• Who wrote the Torah? https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-who-wrote-the-torah-1.5318582
• Ugarit and the Bible http://prophetess.lstc.edu/~rklein/Doc6/ugarit.htm
I am perplexed. You refuse to read what you call a pro-Israel source but nonetheless promulgate ancient mythical stories that Zionists use to support the creation of their occupying state?
Either way. It’s your call but you have nothing to fear. The articles in question approach the subject impartially and don’t take sides. I wouldn’t recommend them otherwise. Please note that the last link is not from Haaretz.
I am aware of the existence of bias in historical narratives but in this case, your augment doesn’t make any sense. Why would Zionists want to suppress stories (real or fake) that form the basis of their claim to occupy Palestine?
The Haaretz articles I presented to you actually challenge and discredit the existence of the bondage of Jews in Egypt, the Exodus, the conquest/invasion of Canaan, David/Solomon’s kingdoms, etc. If the articles are anything, they are against Israel’s founding myths.
I am afraid that is solely your own, personal and opiniated interpretation. The core of the issue is that you believe in the Bible, its characters and stories and consequently find it hard to grasp that they could not be true.
When the Haaretz articles sheds light on the Biblical myths, it doesn’t pin point on the violent nature of the Israelites alone but the entirety of the Biblical characters and stories. You just need to read them to see for yourself.
What is the “answer” you are refering to?
I am listening and I understand what you are saying but it’s doesn’t apply in this case. I presented to you some reading material that you refused to read because you claim it is “pro-Israel” when the content was an impartial report of the Biblical stories/characters based on archeological findings.
I was trying to reply to a previous comment of yours but I think you deleted it. If I may still post my response before answering your current comment.
Response to previous comment:
When you advance the arguments that we don’t know who is the accurate Ramesses mentioned in the Bible and that Egypt kept the barbarian“Jews” busy to prevent an uprising, what do you base yourself upon? Actual facts or are you brainstorming potential answers?
If I recall correctly, a total 10 Pharaohs carried the name Ramesses. That said, and while I understand your question, I find it odd that you insist on believing the Exodus of the Bible happened when all points to the contrary.
Regardless of which Ramesses is the right one in the Bible, there is no Egyptian records attesting of “Jews” in Egypt and/or “Jews” enslaved in Egypt and/or “Jews” as laborers in Egypt and/or evidence of the migration of 600,000 families (2 million people) from Egypt, wandering in the desert for 40 years to then conquer/invade Canaan to settle kingdoms. It’s all mythical.
To the best of my knowledge, there were two successives entry of people from Canaan to Egypt. The first one was the one of Canaanites in 1800-1700 BCE (they formed one of the dynasty of Egypt) and the second one was the one of Hyksos (who were not Canaanites but believed to be Semitic and entered Egypt from Canaan) in circa 1600 BCE. After ruling the land for some time, the Hyksos were kicked out by the Egyptians. The story of the Exodus is high likely inspired from that historical event. On a side but related note, the story of Moses himself shares similarities with the more ancient King Sargon of Akkad – also put in a basket sent on the river.
Response to current comment:
I am confused to say the least. On one hand, you are insistent that the bondage of Jews in Egypt, the Exodus, conquest of Canaan, the establishment of the kingdom, etc happened but on the other, you say that I did most of the job for you in presenting information that discredit the Bible. I just hope you’re not trolling.
Otherwise, we are on the same page in regards to Palestine being occupied.
Lies indeed.
The mythical story of enslaved “Israelites” (aka “Hebrews”) in Egypt, mythical Exodus, mythical Moses, etc is based on the historical migration of Canaanites from Canaan (due to famine) to Egypt where they settled around the Delta Nile around 500 BCE. They were later kicked out by the Egyptian authorities who feared an uprising.
The cult/religion of Pharisaism (known today as Judaism*) came to be with the construction of the (said) Second Temple – decreed and financed by Cyrus the Great as the Persian empire expanded. Hebrews were in reality colonists from the Persian province of Eber-Nari. The word “Hebrew” itself derives from Eber. The establishment of the temple state in Yehud (Judea) was meant to get rid of polytheism, impose monotheism and collect the new tax from the temple.
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”Among the innumerable misfortunes which have befallen… the most fatal in its consequences is the name Judaism… neither in biblical nor post-biblical, neither in Talmudic nor in much later times, is the term Judaism ever heard…”
Rabbi Adolph Moses in collaboration with Rabbi H.G. Enlow, “Yahvism and Other Discourses”
”Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes in name . . . the spirit of the ancient Pharisees survives, unaltered . . . From Palestine to Babylonia; from Babylonia to North Africa, Italy, Spain, France and Germany; from these to Poland, Russia, and eastern Europe generally, ancient Pharisaism has wandered . . . demonstrates the enduring importance which attaches to Pharisaism as a religious movement.”
Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, “The Pharisees, The Sociological Background of Their Faith
No “Jews” ever stepped foot in Egypt, even less so to be enslaved. The mythical story is based upon a historical one: Canaanites from Canaan migrating (due to famine) to Egypt where they settled around the Delta Nile in 500 BCE. They were later sent back to Canaan by the Egyptian authorities fearing an uprising.
Pharisaism (known today as Judaism) came to be with the (said) Second Temple – decreed and financed by Cyrus the Great as the Persian empire expanded. Hebrews were colonists from the Persian province of Eber Nari sent to Yehud (Judea) to establish a temple state and collect the tax. The concoction of the Hebrew Bible based on the plagiarizarion of Mesopotamian stories/concepts and the Canaanite religion was meant to get rid of the polytheistic beliefs and replace them with monotheism. The “Law of Moses” found in the Bible is in reality the Code of Hammurabi.
I am not sure the Bible states that the “Children of Israel” were expelled from “Israel” due to famine. Who would have expelled them? Did you mean: migrated?
What is the basis of your statement (laborers)?
I ask because the mythical story of Hebrews being in Egypt is based upon the historical (and backed by archeology) migration of Canaanites from Canaan to Egypt as a result of famine. They had settled around the Delta Nile in 500 BCE and were later expelled back to Canaan by the Egyptian authorities who feared an uprising.
1500 BCE and not 500 BCE; my mistake.
Hezbollah is more credible than India and the self-anointed “chosen” ones who fan wars and occupation. Nasrallah is a respectable man. Namaste.
Netanyahu is a self medicated alcoholic. We all know what the Bible, Koran and Torah says about a drunken leader. Or any drunk for that matter. Netanyahu belongs inside of an Israeli prison cell for stealing money from Israelis. Lying, contempt of court, crimes against humanity and many other such charges. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8owHqVfCsU&t=499s
oh yes, I put all my faith that this piece of shit is telling the truth. right. get the fuck out of here loser.
Do you Jews have monopoly on lies and deceit?
not an exclusive right but they lie and steal and murders more often than any other group of people and they are operating a concentration camp a la hitler’s bergen belsen, or dachau or auschwitz where the most prominent feature is not judenfrei but palestinianfrei and the concept can be called DEPALESTINATION!
would you believe it – only one thing to do evict the squatters from the stolen palestinian land and send them to kingdom come.