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Turkey And U.S. Create Working Group For Russia’s S-400 Missile Defense System Purchase

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On December 30th, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Turkey and the US created a joint working group in connection with Ankara’s purchase of Russian S-400 air defense systems.

As such, technical negotiations are reportedly underway.

“We have created a joint working group with the US on the S-400, we have already started technical negotiations”, Cavusoglu said at a press conference.

In the week ending on December 27th, Turkey’s Defence Minister Hulusi Akar told the broadcaster NTV that Anakara expects the US to urgently revise its “mistaken” decision to slap sanctions over the purchase of S-400s.

Earlier in December, the US imposed sanctions on Turkey’s Presidency of Defense Industries and its head, Ismail Demir, as well as on three other individuals related to the defense industry presidency.

Cavusoglu’s statement is a 180-degree turn from his previous statement on December 17th, that Ankara was preparing sanctions in response to the US.

Asked by broadcaster Kanal 24 whether Turkey would reverse its S-400 arrangement with Russia in light of the sanctions, Cavusoglu said, “If we were going to step back we would have done so before now.”

“We will surely take our steps in line with these,” Cavusoglu said, according to Reuters. “It’s not important whether the sanctions are soft or harsh, sanctions in themselves are wrong.”

“Looking at the content of the sanctions, these are not measures that will shake us to the core or impact us very much,” Cavusoglu said.

It should be reminded that Russia and Turkey signed a deal for a second S-400 missile defense system to be delivered to Ankara.

Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the military cooperation between his country and Turkey would not be deterred by the sanctions imposed by the United States on Ankara over its acquisition of a Russian missile defense system.

“Relations between Russia and Turkey are self-sustainable and self-sufficient, they don’t depend on someone’s aggressive and hostile actions and whims,” Lavrov said on December 29th.

“They [their relations] are based on the national interests of each of our countries and on our determination to continue mutual cooperation and mutual benefit by searching for a balance of interests.”

On December 29th, Cavusoglu visited Moscow for talks with his counterpart Lavrov, who told reporters that “we have confirmed our mutual intention to develop military ties with Turkey”.

He added that President Vladimir Putin appreciated Turkey’s determination to “continue cooperation in this area despite continuing illegitimate pressure from Washington”.

Cavusoglu said the US sanctions against Turkey were “an act of aggression against our country’s sovereign rights,” adding that Ankara would not give in to pressure.

“We prefer to solve all issues including that of the S-400 through negotiations,” Cavusoglu said. “After introducing the sanctions, the US announced it favours dialogue. We’ve never been against dialogue.”

According to Cavusoglu, him and Lavrov held six in-person meetings, 14 phone conversations and two videoconferences in 2020.

The two countries’ presidents, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Vladimir Putin, had just one in-person meeting due to COVID-19 but talked on the phone 20 times in 2020, he said.

2021 will also mark important events as the two countries celebrate the centennial of the Ankara Agreement, one of the first deals the Turkish Parliament brokered during the Atatürk-led Independence War. Again next year, Erdoğan and Putin will co-chair the next Turkish-Russian High-Level Cooperation Council in Turkey with a joint commitment to further deepen bilateral ties.

The main pillars of the Turkish-Russian relationship are, without question, the economy, trade and energy. The trade volume is around $20 billion, although that’s mostly to the advantage of Russia. The two countries hope to increase the volume to $100 billion, but there was no improvement on this front in 2020 due to the pandemic. Turkey welcomed 7 million Russian tourists in 2019, but this figure dropped to just 2 million this year because of COVID-19.

In addition, since mid-2019, there have even been reports that Turkey is also interested in purchasing Russian SU-57 warplanes after it was expelled from the U.S.-led F-35 project, as well as a second batch of S-400s, but Ankara has yet to confirm the speculation.

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Arman Melkonyan

Here comes the next finger up Russia’s collective asses delivered by Putin the Jew himself. Turkish and American “Working Group” already worked out the inner workings of the S-400 system and learned how to defeat it.

Russia is now more or less DEFENSELESS against upgraded NATO missile systems.

Putin the Jew practically gave the S-400s away FOR FREE by vendor financing the “sale” to Turkey!

Thank Putin the Jew and the current neo-Bolshevik administration by trying them as the traitors they are: http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2018/02/trump-putin-kosher-nostra.html?m=1 “You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the ‘Russian Revolution.’ It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators.” ― Alexander Solzhenitsyn

occupybacon

If the Russian army received 1(one) SU-57 this year, someone could easily figure how thight the wallet is, so they need to sell things from the house.

catalin zt

Ha ha ha,in the anglo-saxon Hell called murica fascistica the working class people are sleeping on the streets for hundred of years and still the anglo-saxon monkeys SLAVES loves the capitalist feudalism!!!! Ha ha ha :) how low intellect monkeys. :)

occupybacon

If I was sleeping on street for a hundred years, as a working class member, I’d have to drink a lot of coffee to go to work.

AM Hants

Well, if you pop over to San Francisco, looking for somewhere to place your cardboard bed, you would no doubt feel at home amongst all the human excretia lining the streets.

occupybacon

I’m sorry for you, just move in another city.

AM Hants

You asked the question whether you would prefer to live in the US or Russia. Just answered. Funnily enough, I have visited the US many times, basically as a tourist. Now, have no desire to return. There is nothing there that actually interests me, including the human faeces in San Francisco.

Not a great advert, for a once great nation.

occupybacon

Sorry for you visiting human feces so many times as a tourist. Indeed that’s funny. I wouldn’t visit the same city twice, as tourist. Maybe Barcelona, but not sure.

AM Hants

Darling, US was clean when I visited the place. Have not been back owing to how far it has fallen, including the streets of San Francisco now paved in human faeces.

Arman Melkonyan

Erdogan doesn’t drink vodka supposedly, so up his degenerate ass went the S-400s like minarets from Allah the Sleazy. I’m not a poet, as you can see.

AM Hants

Can you translate that please?

Russian defence budget $47 billion and decreasing. US Defence budget $740 billion and increasing.

Russia Gold and Currency Reserves, around $600 billion. US National Debt: Around $27 trillion and rising.

Russia – free healthcare and education, including University level. US – how much does health care and University education cost?

Russia – dominant export nation, in control of it’s vast wealth of natural resources. US – dominant import nation, reliant on others to feed their people.

Sorry, what were you saying about the Russian Army? Remind me, which nation has the most nuclear warheads and also which is the only nation to have hypersonic weapons in active service?

Now remind me what you were saying about Russia.?

tzatz

Where would anyone on Planet Earth answer the following question:

Where would you move to:

1. USA

2. Russia

HELLO?

Fog of War

You left out Israhell. I wonder why ? Eh ?

tzatz

I posed the question … eh?

Lots of Russians and Ukrainians made Aliyah to Israel again this year … eh?

This ‘israhell’ is a figment of your imagination … 10% of Israelis have already been vaccinated … eh?

They’re getting out of the ‘hell’ of Covid as a country … eh?

Fog of War

” Lots of Russians and Ukrainians made Aliyah to Israel ”

I wasnt talking about Khazar immigrants, but you knew that I’m sure.

AM Hants

Why would anybody wish to move to a banana republic, that cannot even manage a Presidential Election, let alone so much else?

Why would one wish to live in a nation, that prides itself with human faeces on the streets of its tourist cities and people living in squalor amongst it all?

Why would one wish to live in a nation, that is ruled WOKE morons, that work against the people of the nation?

That is 21st century USA.

Meanwhile over in Russia, how much have they invested in infrastructure, compared to the US?

Trains, railways, roads, motorways, airports, new cities – just for starters.

Russia, a nation with pride and where the streets are clean from human faeces.

Russia, with a GM free diet.

Russia, with so much beauty to explore.

Russia, where WOKE is having a tough time, making an entrance.

Of course I would prefer to live in Russia, and fortunately they are rather choosy who they allow in.

tzatz

Thanks for the confirmation …

Fog of War

” Russia – dominant export nation, in control of it’s vast wealth of natural resources. US – ”

Do those vast resources include basic food stuffs ?

” Yet there was no mistaking his dismay. He scolded ministers over surging food prices, particularly outraged over the 10.5 percent rise in the cost of pasta despite a good wheat harvest. ”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-pasta-food-prices-putin/2020/12/16/0c0cde72-3ed9-11eb-b58b-1623f6267960_story.html

AM Hants

Do those vast resources include basic food stuffs?

Sure showing your ignorance, considering Russia not only feeds her people, but, is also the leading exporter of grain, the non-GM version, in the world. So guess the answer is ‘YES’.

Are you seriously quoting Washington Post????? Those Journo-terror*sts over on the Post, sure as heck have no love of Russia, but, come out with one heck of a lot of BS. Jeff Bozos, so loyal to the demands of the CIA, who are again no fans of Russia.

https://www.rbth.com/business/332948-russia-leading-wheat-exporter

occupybacon

Ahh the feee stuff again. That’s why the upper class in each country have private healthcare and education cause free stuff works just great. And army is free too.

AM Hants

Riddle me this, but, is healthcare in Russia free, yes or no?

Most nations have private healthcare, if you wish to go Private, however, not many nations have free healthcare for all, now do they?

With regards free stuff working well, as you said, it is great.

Remember who sent the first cosmonaut into space? He benefitted from free education did he not? In fact, don’t Russia still supply the US with their space engines, when they wish to explore space?

What else has Russia given us, courtesy of free education and focusing on critical thought and creativity? Not focusing on same sex cloakrooms and diversity concerns, which seems to lead the Western Educational Agenda, 2021.

Here are a few Russians, who benefitted from that free education and look what they managed to achieve and that is before we get to the Russian Writer’s and creative artists, who also thrived from that free education, including graduate level.

1837 – Dmitry Zagryazhsky – caterpillar drive and patent for his invention of a “carriage with a flat chain mechanical caterpillar” = Tractors and tanks and which nation excels with regards tank building and design?

1868 – Andrei Vlasenko 1868, he invented the world’s first grain harvester.

1874-1876 – Fyodor Pirotsky, conducted a few experiments which led to Electrically-powered railway wagons

1880s – Alexander Stoletov created the technology behind the television, based on photoelectric effects formed via the production of solar cells.

1882 – Pavel Yablochkov and physicist Ivan Usagin invented and built open-core transformers (using “distribution of light” – produced by Yablochkov in the mid 18702

1885 – Alexander Popov, announced the invention of a system for wireless communications and displayed the world’s first radio set. Owing to working for the military, he was unable to publish his findings. Marconi, conducted similar experiments, but, had no problem with publishing his findings, back in 1897, and was able to commercialise his findings fast.

1891 – Vladimir Shukhov, came up with the “petrol cracking” process.

1910 – Igor Sikorsky, created the prototype of a roto-driven device, which managed to get off the ground. In 1912, he created the first hydroplane in the work and then the first multiple-engine aircraft. After the Russian Empire was overthrown he sought exile in the US, which led to the launch of Sikorsky Aero Engineering Company, which created the first helicopter designed in the US to get off the ground. Using a contribution from remarkable Russian composer Sergei Rachmaninoff. The design has been used in helicopter designs for the past 50+ years, plus in 1942 he produced the two seater helicopter.

1910 – Mechnikov, mixing milk with ferments developed on the Bulgarian theory to produce yoghurt.

1910-1913 – Sergei Lebedev invented synthetic rubber.

1923 – Vladimir Zworykin – applied for a television patent and six years later invented a kinescope, high powered television receiver tube. Followed, two years later creating an iconoscope, the first transmitting device.

1950s – Alexander Poniatoff (Poniatov), a student of Russian Aviation Expert Nikolay Zhukovsky, started Ampex, which produced the first quality video signal recorder.

occupybacon

You have way too much time. I coyldn’t read more than the first question. My answer is no. Free stuff doesn’t exist. Army is not free either, is paid from taxes. As for the EU, best private companies offer private healthcare to their employees because they care if them. That’s not free stuff either.

AM Hants

Darling, tell me which nations do not rely on taxes? The question is what nations spend those taxes wisely? Russia, owing to their President having a PhD in Economics, Dr Vladimir Putin has proven he handles the Russian economy well, unlike most leaders. My own included.

occupybacon

Happy new year!

AM Hants

Happy New Year to you as well.

एरन

Excuse me, Anne, but there’s never been a nation on earth capable of providing free healthcare and education. The Russian people, for example, pay heavily each and every time they are compensated for their labor. It’s called a payroll tax. The Russian people also pay federal sales tax. Not unlike all other education and healthcare systems on earth these are the confiscatory mechanisms Russians pay for the “free” programs their government has devised for them. In short: is it not more than a bit naïve to believe Russians receive any government service for free?

I happen to know that you are well aware that Russia is not supplying rocket engines to the United States. As a point of fact, the current occupants of the ISS were lifted into space by the 100%, American-made, SpaceX rockets and vehicle.

– The first to the moon: The United States. – The first and only to walk on the Moon: The United States. – The first spaceplane: The United States. – The first to Mars: The United States.

tzatz

F/kn anti-Judaism Hater

An Armenian Catholic anti-Judaism Hater … ROTFLMAO

I hope Armenia continues to suffer again and again …. you’re not in Armenia … was it Australia? Whatever … I employed an Armenian for a time … he cheated and I let him go … he went elsewhere and continued to cheat in order to get ahead … F/k y’all. lol

I felt sorry for him … his wife’s family ended up in Lebanon after the Genocide …. but f/k y’all

catalin zt

Go back to Satan your Father , khazarian PAEDOPHILE CRIMINAL!

tzatz

F/k you …

Arman Melkonyan

OK boss. But tell the guys below I’m not Jewish. They keep calling me a Jew because they think I’m too smart for my brain or something, OK? Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

tzatz

F/k off

Arman Melkonyan

Man, you can’t even spell, or is that a Jewish thing?

Arman Melkonyan

And you all called me a fool or a hasbara troll when I’ve been saying that FOR YEARS.

Arman Melkonyan

Happy new year, Netanyahu’s bitch.

Black Waters

If it was that easy Russia would have never allowed it, i think that there’s a lot of things happening at the same time and you guys aren’t paying attention.

Fog of War

Thankfully you are. So go ahead and educate us wise sir.

Servet Köseoğlu

Son is going home…xD

gypsygreek

Nothing is going anywhere dude That’s wet dream of the US

Servet Köseoğlu

Right..not usa…its coming its coming home football is coming home…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJqimlFcJsM

Furkan Sahin

Bize her yer Trabzon :D

Simplekindof Man

As they say it’s not over till it’s over…. Noone is to be trusted,it’s honor among thieves…. I won’t be surprised if “suddenly” the Turks and USa are back in bed and doing joint exercises WITH the S-400,ring a bell? *Cough cough* S300 *cough* trouserlessGreeks…end of cough.

tzatz

ROTFL

Arman Melkonyan

That’s it. The Turkish lira rallied 20 percent in the last couple of weeks. The Jews like Erdogan’s new style…and the things the aging Islamist does with his tongue…

Brother Ma

What is this trouserless greek?

Simplekindof Man

How can I put it,trousers not fully worn…or constantly getting caught with pants down so to speak….

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

MALAKA.!!!

Simplekindof Man

Truth hurts.no need to be acting like a kid. But a typical greek nevertheless.

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

You are very far from the Truth … you know nothing about the Greeks.

Simplekindof Man

I’d say “please enlighten me” but I’d be lieing. By the way I hope you stand up to your name…general.

Brother Ma

Thanks for explaining it.

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

Others cough and lie…..The State Department denies Tsavousoglu’s words. A State Department spokesman clarified that there is no such working group and stressed that Washington remains fully committed to the implementation of CAATSA sanctions.

Just Me

Don’t think so. Turkey is the cornerstone of US policy for the dismantling of Russia and Putin is idiotic enough to go along.

tzatz

Stupid turkey supporter

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

This reasoning existed in the 20th century..now we have entered the 21st century and the game has changed. Turkey had geopolitical value … as long as the Cold War existed! Now America and Russia have understood that the common enemy is China!

HB_Norica

First the S-400 that the Turks have isn’t the same s-400 the Russians have.

Second the Turks bought the s-400 because they’re afraid of the USA turning on them. If they give it up to the USA it hurts the turks more than the Russians.

Third I think the Russians learned their lessons with the Adolph Tolkachev affair. That basically made a whole generation of Russian aircraft nothing but targets for US fighters. If Turkey has anything to give the USA it’ll be something that can be changed or upgraded easily. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Tolkachev

Zerosum

Backstabbing may be the only activity where Russia has no real competition in the world. It proudly holds the top spot since the fall of the Berlin wall. However, the chicken are coming home to roost. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b72ea3371978b8af17b60a5b5d71096e355f82641026a75f8f5a3a99760c19ab.jpg

AM Hants

You do realise that the Berlin Wall fell, during the period of the Bolshevik Soviet Union, don’t you? The Russian Empire was overthrown in 1917 and when the Soviet Union fell, in 1991, 15 independent nations emerged, Russia being one of them.

Just Me

Syria is a prime example, that is bombed daily and Russia has provided Israel will all the codes for SAM systems and then you wonder why Russia has friends. It did the same to Cuba in the 1960’s, Afghanistan in 80’s, Iran in 90’s and Armenia in 2020. Ever wonder why all the Warsaw Pact countries are Russia’s biggest enemies, starting with Poland.

tzatz

Disinformation …. Disingenuous

This turkey is LYING … wishful thinking propaganda

Unworthy of comment …. lol

This clown says what Erdogan wants to believe …. hello?

Erdogan and the turkeys have stepped in sh Xt ….

next

LaRata

S-400 for the Turk … very bad choice for Putin ,,,,

Just Me

Turkey won’t recognize Crimea as Russia despite superficially improved relations: FM

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

The State Department denies Tsavousoglu’s words. A State Department spokesman clarified that there is no such working group and stressed that Washington remains fully committed to the implementation of CAATSA sanctions.

Fog of War

Let me introduce you to the concept of ” good cop, bad cop “.

ΠΑΡΜΕΝΙΩΝ

But there is also the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1PfrmCGFnk

daniel

What will happen if turkey decide to take the money and give S400 to US?

Assad must stay

apparently theyre impossible to reverse engineer

tzatz

lol

Ask the Iranians … that’s ALL they’re good at … eh?

Fog of War

As much as I hate agreeing with you you have a point here. If Iranians can reverse engineer Russian, ZioAmerican , Israhelli, and other equipment. Then I’m sure other ” players ” can also. Sometimes the Russian fan / cheer squad here loses their objectivity.

tzatz

Ah … so you’re NOT one of them

Fog of War

I’m much more objective then you suspect.

tzatz

I only follow what I read …

BUT using Israhell / Khazar et al are typically used by anti-Judaism Haters … full stop

Fog of War

Call me what you want, I am what I am. However, I retain my objectivity in the field of geo-political matters. I know that might be shocking to you.

AM Hants

Didn’t the US try reverse engineering the S-300, that Greece had, with zero results? Same with the export version, that Turkey has, completely different to the domestic system.

tzatz

What are you saying turkey?

The S-300 is a worthless pile of junk … hello?

AM Hants

According to you and I do not take any notice of your BS.

S-300 is so bad, that the US is seriously cheesed off it cannot reverse engineer it. In the meantime, S-500 is due to roll out, whilst they carry on working on S-600 and S-700. Remind me, but how long did the US First Strike Missile Defence System take to get into active service? Wasn’t it almost two decades and when it arrived, it found itself obsolete?

Which reminds me, how did the US missile defence systems work, back in the 90s? Weren’t they mistaking their own planes as foe? Not forgetting the Serbians, who I believe took down, with ease the mighty stealth F-117, now how did that happen? Then you had the Saudi Oil Fields, which Patriot was defending. What happened there, not that long ago?

Anyway, bored communicating with trolls, over in the kindergarten and am off to chat with the adults.

tzatz

Go ahead …

Fog of War

” “We have created a joint working group with the US on the S-400, we have already started technical negotiations”, Cavusoglu said at a press conference. ”

I bet they have as there are many highly ” technical ” topics to discuss. Ask yourselves, Why is Turkey still in NATO ? Your answers lie there.

tzatz

It’s BS … the turkey is full of sh Xt

Fog of War

You need to elaborate dear sir.

tzatz

As someone else said in this thread … it’s been denied by the Americans

There’s nothing to discuss …. the turkeys believed they can do as they please …. but their economy will be sunk with American sanctions … hello?

It’s already teetering …

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