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SEPTEMBER 2024

US And Germany Against Ukrainian NATO Access

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US And Germany Against Ukrainian NATO Access

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Written by Lucas Leiroz, journalist, researcher at the Center for Geostrategic Studies, geopolitical consultant

Ukrainian membership in NATO appears increasingly unlikely as some Western key countries are boycotting the process. According to a recent media report, the US and Germany are against Kiev’s entry into the alliance, blocking the advancement of discussions on the topic. The case clearly shows how Ukraine’s role in the bloc’s plans is that of a mere proxy, with no real intention of allowing access.

In an article published by Foreign Policy magazine, it is said that several NATO countries are asking for a summit to definitively discuss the possibility of admitting Ukraine to the bloc. However, it is alleged that Washington and Berlin have objections to this, preventing such a meeting from being scheduled, continuously postponing any decision on the Ukrainian admission process.

The magazine claims that countries such as Poland and the Baltics are among the biggest supporters of accelerating Kiev’s entry into the alliance. Citing sources familiar with the issue, journalists said that these states are putting pressure on the US and other members to reach a consensus on Ukraine at the next summit in July, but, given the lack of will on the part of the main countries of the alliance, it is unlikely that there will be any result in the near future.

The US and Germany are especially cited as the two main saboteurs of the Ukrainian process. Kiev’s two main military supporters do not want, according to the article’s authors and their sources, to escalate tensions with Russia and believe that, although Ukraine “deserves” a seat in the alliance, now is not the appropriate time for it.

The reason for this assessment is obvious: Ukraine’s entry could lead to a direct war between Russia and NATO. Considering the collective defense clause in the alliance’s treaty, NATO could be fully mobilized to attack Moscow if Ukraine were admitted during a conflict scenario. Despite massively supporting Kiev, the US and Germany do not seem interested in escalating the war from proxy level to direct and open confrontation, which is why both countries not only block discussions on Ukrainian accession but also make it clear that NATO’s support should be focused only on sending weapons.

The article also mentions that the Ukrainian stalemate is currently worsened by the critical stance taken by countries such as Hungary and Slovakia. As well known, Viktor Orban and Robert Fico openly oppose not only Kiev’s admission but even Ukraine’s systematic arming policy, advocating a pragmatic guideline of dialogue with Russia and continental peace in Europe. With the growth of this mentality, Kiev’s situation becomes even more difficult, with the possibilities of membership becoming unrealistic.

In fact, this information is not surprising. Since the beginning of the conflict, NATO has made it clear that Ukraine’s role is that of a proxy, with no apparent interest in changing this situation. The Atlantic alliance does not want to risk engaging in a direct war with Russia as this would be a catastrophic scenario of mutually assured destruction, so the objective is to conduct proxy operations using non-NATO allied states.

Furthermore, in the current circumstances of diminishing Western interest in Ukraine, any discussion about membership is likely to become even more fruitless. With the escalation in the Middle East, US attention to Ukraine is likely to decline more and more, as seen in the recent decrease in arms shipments. In this context, it is becoming clear that the Ukrainian membership process will remain frozen for a long time.

However, it is not unexpected that countries like Poland and the Baltics are pushing for Ukraine to receive a positive response from the alliance. These states have been going through a process of brainwashing in anti-Russian hate for decades – something similar to what Ukraine has been going through since 2014. Decision makers in these countries do not act rationally when calling for Ukraine to join the alliance. Apparently, they are aware of the risks of a world war as a consequence of such a decision, but they are willing to do anything just to harm Russia.

The US and Germany’s objection to allowing Ukrainian access is a result of the little sense of rationality left in NATO. The very decision to launch a proxy war against Moscow is anti-strategic and unjustified, but escalating such a conflict to a direct level would obviously be much worse, which is why Washington and Berlin are right to block discussions on the topic.

It is also possible to predict that the Ukrainian factor will become another reason for polarization within NATO. On the one hand, states in favor of Kiev’s accession, on the other, states against accession, but in favor of sending weapons – and, as a third factor, the recently formed group led by Hungary and Slovakia, which are against both the sending of weapons and Ukrainian membership. In practice, the alliance appears more fragile and disunited than ever.

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_TomSawyer_

another ruzzian warship was sunk 🇷🇺=🤡 😆😆😆

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and if russia says enough is enough and launch preemptive full nuclear blow ? do you have military grade nuclear shelter ? as all shelters for non-government persons and oligarchs in the west were closed and demolished 30 years ago…

_TomSawyer_

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captain hohol

understand that nato saying “no” to ukraine’s membership is their way of protecting themselves if russia decides to hit ukraine with nuclear weapons.

understand that no nation will come to the aid of ukraine if russia does this because russia will have every reason to barrage the entirety of europe and the united states with nuclear warheads.

pete

poland and the baltics are next in line to feed the almighty russian meat grinder, gung-ho!

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Pampers filled academy

next in line! sent to the fishes glu glu x.com/noelreports/status/1753011305466740859?s=20 😂🤣

pete

the polaks and baltic neos are next in line to feed the almighty rus meat grinder gung-ho!

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fake news. they want nuclear war against russia. russians are fools. remeber minsk protocols. ceasefire yes but then not and then yes and then not meanwhile they militarized ukraine to teeth. then they said no heavy weapons to ukraine, only helmets, bulletproof vests.. then small weapons yes, they are defensive. then manpads, they are defensive. then short range missiles, tanks and long range missiles, still defensive. now nuclear capable f16 but we will never let ukraine join nato…

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B.F.Finlayson

the first (existential!!) responsibility for any leader of a sovereign state is the protection of the state and it’s citizens against insurrection, invasion and treason etc. basic stuff, huh, and the central theme of polical philosophy from plato > machiavelli > hobbes, rousseau, locke etc.

rus leaders didn’t bother reading the books.

ps: neither did he uk’s public school elite govt – but it’s such an inconsequential rathole no-one is bothered.

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captain hohol

russia is the vanguard white society fighting the wef and this insane tranny political invasion that is destroying the western world.

pray that russia wins if you care about the free sane world.

captain hohol

refusing to let ukraine join nato is the tacit way of saying “we can’t afford nuclear war with russia”.

nuclear war would spell the inevitable demise of the united states, understand how devastating power outages in southern regions of the united states were during the winter, how many people were caught without resources and died.

cont~

captain hohol

a nuclear war would ensure that a sizeable portion of the power grid for the united states would be knocked out and it would take years to bring it back, and that would result in hundreds of thousands of people dying per year due to cold weather exposure, lack of clean water, food, etc.

that’s not counting the amount of people who would be killed in the fighting and chaos of such an event.

cont~

captain hohol

the united states would never come back from a nuclear response from russia neither would europe. much of europe would freeze to death and the rest would be killed by their ungrateful southern migrant occupants when shit goes bad.

russia ironically enough stands the best chance of surviving a nuclear war.

B.F.Finlayson

‘the ukrainian factor will become another reason for polarization within nato’

nato is 100% unipolar, and as long as yoosa exists always will be. all this ‘leaked’ info is pure theatre. is anyone dim enough to actually buy this bs, apart from mr (i ❤️ the un) lvrv of course?

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B.F.Finlayson

the only game in town for the next 10 months is the yoosa election (apart, of course, from tens of thousands being ritually slaughtered with murican approval, nato support, and murican made weapons); after that fasten your safety belts and ever onwards to ww3 (probably…). 💀

captain hohol

there will be no world war 3.

there will be paroxismal civil conflicts that result in the self-cleansing of insane progressive leftists from western countries in both europe and north america.

trump gets elected and ukraine is sunk because trump will not allow russia to fall, russia stands against everything that trump stands against.

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an ai analysis may show nato escalating the conflict then the usa and germany withdrawing from nato and leaving the remaining nato partners to fight russia.

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captain hohol

the results

britain – nuked

france – nuked

poland – nuked

pretty much any european nation will get destroyed if they take direct action against russia.

remember, the people are your enemy who want mass third world brownie migration into europe. same with the people who want insane green cultist energy policies that shut down nuclear power plants, and same with those who want to implement insane leftist tranny politics and feminism to destroy birth rates of white people.

captain hohol

ukraine joining nato would result in global nuclear war.

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