Written by Eric Zuesse
On August 14th, one of the Democratic Party mainstream ‘news’-media, NBC, deigned to do an on-air interview of RFK Jr., who is running in the Democratic Party’s primaries to be the 2024 Presidential nominee instead of Biden, and this occasion offered the best presentation I’ve yet seen of how radically against Biden RFK Jr. really is on the Ukraine issue (the issue that’s the likeliest to bring WW3, so it’s probably the most important of all the world’s issues). His historical account had the time-line — the sequence of events in this matter — mixed-up, but was otherwise, so far as I’m aware, entirely truthful about what the key events were, and about the U.S. Government’s deeply shameful actions regarding Ukraine, which have led to this war. The interviewer didn’t even challenge nor question anything in his historical account, but simply closed by saying, in effect: regardless of what this history is, or what the impact will be on Ukraine, America must conquer Russia. That’s the only thing she seemed to care about.
Here’s that discussion, roughly edited by me to point out where I noticed that RFK Jr.’s timeline was in error:
Longshot Democratic presidential candidate and conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. talked to NBC News Correspondent Ali Vitali about his views on abortion, foreign policy and the indictments against former President Trump.
[My edited transcript of the Ukraine-war portion of it:]
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(Q) You’ve
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criticized the way that Joe Biden has
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handled the Ukraine situation. What would
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you have done differently if you were in
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the oval when Russia invaded Ukraine?
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(A) I don’t believe Russia would have invaded
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if I had been in the Oval Office, because
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Russians tried to settle it before they
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went in. They wanted them [Ukraine] to [fulfill on having] sign[ed] the Minsk
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Accords.
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The Minsk Accords were going to settle the
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whole thing. They [the Accords] would have left Donbass
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as part of Ukraine as a semi-autonomous
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region but given the ethnic
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Russians
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the right to speak their own language,
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and protection from government violence.
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The Russians wanted [Ukraine to fulfill] to [their having] sign[ed] it. The
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Germans approved it. The French approved
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it.
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And Zelenski ran in 2019 and got 70
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percent of the vote promising to [fulfill on Ukraine’s having] sign[ed] it [Minsk, on 5 September 2014].
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It’s our fault because we [Biden’s agent, the UK’s Boris Johnson] went over
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there and told Zelenski he couldn’t sign [Russia’s peace-offer in March 2022 (warned him that The West would withdraw its support if he did)]
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it.
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Then [no, prior] the Russians put 40 000 troops in [on 24 February 2022]
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not to take over the country because he [Putin]
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can’t do it with forty thousand troops
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but to bring us [no, to bring Ukraine] back to the negotiating
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table.
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Zelensky went back to the
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negotiating table, signed an agreement
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in March of 2022, and the Russians signed
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it and were withdrawing their troops, and
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in April
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Joe Biden sent Boris Johnson to the
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Ukraine to blow up that agreement.
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As a direct result of that
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intervention by our White House [via Johnson],
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350,000 Ukrainian kids have died.
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This is not a war that the Ukrainians
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wanted. They gave Zelenski 70% of the
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vote when he was running as a peace
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candidate [in 2019] promising to sign the [no: an]
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agreement [which he promised he would negotiate with Russia].
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We’re the ones that wanted the war, and
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you know even
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Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin that
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same month that we blew up the agreement,
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when he was asked why are we in Ukraine,
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he didn’t say it’s to protect Ukrainian
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freedom. He said it’s to exhaust the
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Russian army and degrade its capacity to
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fight elsewhere in the world. And Biden,
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when he was asked that one, said
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we’re there to do regime change with
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Vladimir Putin. But that’s not about
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Ukraine. This indicates that
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Ukraine is a pawn in a proxy war,
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a geopolitical proxy war between Russia
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and the United States.
(Q) So much has
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always been clear right? I mean do you
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think that we should not fight them?
[She insisted that we must conquer Russia.]
RFK Jr.’s account of the history documented Biden’s evilness (and this evilness is bipartisan, because the Republican Party has backed Biden on this, and Trump never was honest like RFK Jr. is here; RFK Jr. is the only prominent American politician who is honest in what he says about this war). But he never attached any such label (“evil”) to Biden. This isn’t surprising, because RFK Jr. needs to convert Democrats, who, by huge margins, support Biden, and so they’re enormously resistant to receiving evidence that Biden is deeply evil. (Ali Vitali herself certainly wasn’t listening to what Kennedy was saying.) This also is why RFK Jr. makes no mention that Obama (a Democratic Party hero) had started the war in 2014 by couping Ukraine and turning it into a U.S. vassal-nation and most-preferred ultimate missile-base for America’s decades-long war to conquer Russia.
NBC’s Ali Vitali ignores that Biden has thus far killed 350,000 Ukrainians in his (the Democratic Party’s billionaire donors’) war against Russia in the battlefields of Ukraine, and she insists that this U.S. aggression against both Ukraine and Russia must continue until Russia becomes conquered. She’s a true-believer (in this proxy-war by the U.S.), regardless of whether it’s leading to WW3 — as-if she doesn’t care about such possible consequences, but only conquest.
That’s the way U.S. mainstream ‘news’-media are. They hire closed-minded ‘reporters’ to feed the existing prejudices of their closed-minded audience. RFK Jr. is trying to break through that. He’s the only candidate who is trying to do this.
Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s new book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory, and Why the Social Sciences Need to Change, is about how America took over the world after World War II in order to enslave it to U.S.-and-allied billionaires. Their cartels extract the world’s wealth by control of not only their ‘news’ media but the social ‘sciences’ — duping the public.
he seems to be based
the dems are so against kennedy, they are attack dogs. things are weird and wouldn’t put past biden administration to sabotage the election. there’s nothing they wouldn’t do and count on it.
edward abbey: “ a patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.“
anyone believing anything an amerikkkan politician says is too stupid for words. anyone who supports trumpanzee policies deserves whatever happens to them.
f*ck you and comment is too long.
rfkjr is as thick as mince. basic errors on events leading to the smo from 2014 (when the conflict started) are unforgiveable; esp regarding minsk and russia’s (ignored) peace proposal dec 2021. only israel would benefit from rfkjr in the oval office, as he would grant it carte blanche to run riot.
i agree eric.